Novatek Microelectronics Corp. (3034) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

February 4, 2021

Taiwan Stock Exchange TW Information Technology Semiconductors and Semiconductor Equipment earnings 87 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

David Chen

executive
#1

[Foreign Language] Dear investors, analysts and media. Good afternoon. Welcome to Novatek 2020 Fourth Quarter Online Investor Conference. This is David Chen, Vice President and Company Spokesperson. I will be the host for today's conference. Hope everyone is doing well and remaining healthy despite the challenging pandemic outbreak. Let's pray that the pandemic will be contained soon. But before that, we'll have to continue to use live audio webcast. Please be reminded that you can still send your question to us by text. The agenda for today's event will be as following: first, I'll be reporting Novatek's fourth quarter results in English. After that, our Vice Chairman, Mr. Steve Wang, will provide more details on our Q4 results and Q1 guidance. Following that will be our Q&A session. As mentioned earlier, if you have questions, you can send to us by text. Our IR director, Mr. Tony Tseng, will be processing and reading out the investor questions one at a time, both in Chinese and English; and our Vice Chairman, Steve Wang; our CFO, Mr. Chou, and I will answer all your questions in Chinese and we'll be translated into English. As usual, please take a look at our safe harbor notice. So let's start with our 2020 Q4 financial highlights. Our net sales in Q4 was $22.45 billion, up Q-o-Q 2.05% from $22 billion, Y-o-Y up 35.87% from $16.53 billion in Q4 2019. Net gross profit in Q4 was $8.54 billion, up 12.65% from last quarter's $7.58 billion and up 60.23% from $5.33 billion in Q4 2019. Our gross margin in Q4 was 38.03%, up 3.58 percentage points Q-o-Q from 34.45%, and Y-o-Y up 5.78 percentage points from 32.25%. Operating income was $4.75 billion, up Q-o-Q 11.4% from $4.26 billion, Y-o-Y up 94.42% from $2.44 billion. Q4 net income was $3.64 billion up Q-o-Q 7.02% from $3.4 billion, Y-o-Y up 102% from $1.8 billion. Overall Q4 EPS was $5.99 versus last quarter $5.60. And last year, in 2019, it was $2.96. Our cash and cash equivalents in Q4 was $22.88 billion increased Q-o-Q by 39.92% from $16.35 billion. Y-o-Y increased by 27.69% from $17.9 billion. Account receivable. Q4 was $13.37 billion, decreased Q-o-Q by 12.85%, from $15.35 billion and Y-o-Y up 2.4% from $13.34 billion. Inventory. Q4 was $8.16 billion, Q-o-Q up 6.28% from $7.67 billion, Y-o-Y up 30.23% from $6.23 billion. Short-term loans. Q4 was 0. The overall Q4 384 equivalent large panel unit -- driver unit shipment was $884 million, up Q-on-Q 3.88% from $851 million and Y-o-Y up 20.27% from $735 million. Next, let's look at our 2 major product line sales breakdown. SOC in Q4 was $7.05 billion, down Q-o-Q 9% from $7.75 billion, and up 45.81% from $4.84 billion in 2019. Display driver in Q4 was $15.3 billion, up Q-o-Q 7.3% from $14.26 billion, and up 32.51% from $11.55 billion. Next, let's look at our 2020 monthly sales. Our monthly sales in 2020 has all outperformed debt of 219 -- 2019. 2020 net sales were $79.96 billion, Y-o-Y up 24% from $64.37 billion in 2019. Next is our January sales number. Our January net sales was $8.12 billion, month-on-month up 11.17% and Y-o-Y up 40%. This is another record high for Novatek. SOC net sales were $2.62 billion, month-on-month up 9.5%, Y-o-Y up 59.79%. Driver IC was $5.42 billion, month-on-month up 10.34%, Y-o-Y up 36.05%. Next, let's look at our year 2020 Y-o-Y income statement. Our net sales in 2020 was $79.96 billion, up Y-o-Y 24% from $64.37 billion. Gross profit in 2020 was $27.96 billion, Y-o-Y up 35.62% from $20.6 billion. Operating expense in 2020 was $13.18 billion, Y-o-Y up 22.53% from $10.76 billion. Operating income was $14.78 billion, Y-o-Y up 50% from $9.86 billion. Net nonoperating loss was $229 million, Y-o-Y up 440% from $42 million. Net income in 2020 was $11.82 billion, Y-o-Y up 49% from $7.93 billion. Overall 2020 EPS was $19.42 versus 2019, it was $13.03. Next let's look at our fourth quarter Y-o-Y income statement. As mentioned earlier, the top line Y-o-Y growth by 35.87%. The gross profit were up by 60.23%. Looking at the operating expense, Q4, it was $3.79 billion, up 31.31% from $2.89 billion. Operating income Q4 were $4.75 billion, up 94.42% from $2.44 billion. The net nonoperating loss Q4 was $199 million, down 5.51% from $210 million. The net income Q4 were $3.64 billion, up 102% from $1.8 billion. The EPS for Q4, $5.99, versus last year Q4 $2.96. Let's look at the income statement for Q4, Q-on-Q. The top line mentioned earlier, there's a growth of 2.05%. The gross profit were up by 12.65%. The operating expense Q4 at $3.79 billion, up 14.26% from $3.32 billion. The operating income for Q4 was $4.75 billion, up 11.4% from $4.26 billion. The net non-operating Q4 was $198.7 million, up 70.41% from $116 million. The net income Q4 $3.64 billion, up 7.02% from $3.4 billion. The overall EPS for Q4 was 5.99% versus last quarter, $5.60. Let's look at the sales breakdown by product. As you can see that SOC accounts for 31% of our total sales, and the driver accounts for 68%. And you can see for the last 4 quarters, we've been experiencing growth every quarter. Finally, let's look at some of the financial numbers. As you can see that since we have no short-term loans, our net cash position end of last year is $22.88 billion, increase of $6.5 billion. Accounts receivable, $13.37 billion. It's down by $1.97 billion. Inventory, $8.16 billion, increase of $482 million. And now I'll turn over the call to our Vice Chairman, Mr. Steve Wang, to provide us more details on Q4 results and Q1 guidance.

Steve Wang

executive
#2

[Foreign Language] Good afternoon, everybody. [Foreign Language]

David Chen

executive
#3

[Foreign Language] Our first quarter revenue -- our fourth quarter revenue came up to $20.45 billion, and the margin went up to 38%. One of these were record highs for NovaTek. The moderate growth in Q4 was mainly driven by the following reasons. The IT-related applications like notebook, tablet, gaming, these demands driven by the COVID-19 actually continued to be strong in Q1 and Q4. And Q4, as everybody knows, is the high seasons for smartphones. So due to the above 2 reasons, our revenue reached the higher end of our Q4 guidance. And as to Q4 margins, our margin was 38%, up from -- up 3.58 percentage point Q-o-Q. And this is mainly due to the -- first of all, we adjusted our ASP to reflect our rising costs. And secondly, due to the tight supply, we have adjusted our production to more favorable and better product mix. And looking at the outlook for Q1, even though the various countries have started to provide vaccinations, but the global pandemic is still far from over and still spreading in various countries. So working from home, learning from home or web meeting will become a norm. Thus, we see the demand for notebook, tablet, gaming monitor, and it's maintaining its strength in Q1. And we're expecting it to maintain its momentum until Q2. Normally, everybody knows that Q1 is usually a low season. But this year, we are seeing strong demand in Q1. All our product lines are expecting to grow both the SOC and the driver IC line. So based on the above scenario, our guidance for Q1 is as follows: revenue will be within the range of $25.2 billion to $26 billion, and this is based on an exchange rate of USD 1 to TWD 28, $25.2 billion to $26 billion. And our gross margin will be 38% to 41% range, 38% to 41% range. Operating margins will be from 22% to 25% range. Well, due to the tightness in the supply chain for SOC for both foundry and the back end, the lead time has been extended, therefore, our SOC product delivery has been postponed to Q1. So based on this, we are expecting our SOC line to grow stronger growth than rest of the other line. So SOC has been the strongest. Second will be the large panel driver and then the small sized -- small and medium-sized driver. Okay. That's the review on the Q4 and the first quarter guidance. I will now move on to the Q&A session. Please be reminded to send us your questions, and Tony will process and then read them out one by one. And before the questions coming in, I think we already have some questions. So I'll ask Tony to read them out. [Foreign Language]

Tony Tseng

executive
#4

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Steve Wang

executive
#5

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Tony Tseng

executive
#6

Okay. Based on our recognition of all the key sectors for the record high gross margin quarter 4 and exceeding the guidance, can you also provide more detail about the NRE amount in quarter 4 versus the first 3 quarters of the whole year?

David Chen

executive
#7

The NRE for Q4 is around $119 million and the overall 2020 NRE roughly around $600 million.

Tony Tseng

executive
#8

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Steve Wang

executive
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David Chen

executive
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Tony Tseng

executive
#11

Yes. We noticed the operating expense in quarter 4 increased from 15.1%, quarter 3 to 16.9%, in quarter 4. In terms of the amount, the expense also increased over $400 million quarter-over-quarter, which will provide some key factors about this job.

David Chen

executive
#12

The increase in the operating expense is mainly due to the R&D expense. And among the R&D, you have the mask and all. So basically, the increase in R&D is specially for the future product, and this is to improve -- to increase our competitiveness, we have to invest more into the R&D.

Tony Tseng

executive
#13

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Steve Wang

executive
#14

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Tony Tseng

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#15

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Steve Wang

executive
#16

[Foreign Language] Market gain -- market share gain. [Foreign Language]

Tony Tseng

executive
#17

We noticed in quarter 4, SOC revenue declined slip by 9% quarter-over-quarter. Could you give some highlights about the key products, the quarter-over-quarter trend? Also, could you provide some key highlights for your SOC product for 2020?

David Chen

executive
#18

The reason for the decrease in the SOC revenue by 9% quarter-over-quarter, this is mainly due to the TV SOC line. As I mentioned earlier, because of the tightness in the foundry and back end, so the overall cycle time actually has been extended. So due to this, a lot of the delivery has been delayed to Q1. So this is the reason for the decrease in Q4. And talking about the SOC product line, among the SOC product line, the -- there are few of them. One of them is the TV controller and then the gaming monitor scaler. And these areas, we actually had a market share gain. And the next one is the timing controller, which we also did pretty well. And of course, the other one is the power-related -- display power-related line, which also did well.

Tony Tseng

executive
#19

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Steve Wang

executive
#20

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Tony Tseng

executive
#21

Now we switch the gears to the driver business. Could you provide some details or trends about the quarter-over-quarter trend for your large panel driver versus small, medium-sized driver and also some comments in terms of the shipment, the large panel driver as well as the OLED and the TDDI for your smartphone?

David Chen

executive
#22

Well, as mentioned earlier, the Q4 SOC side, even though it was down Q-on-Q in Q4. But our driver line actually went up in Q4. And among the driver line, we have the large panel and small, medium-sized panel. And we are seeing -- we saw our large panel driver actually experienced a higher growth than the small and medium-sized driver. And among the small and medium-sized driver, we have OLED and TDDI product line. And the TDDI product line is kind of flat. The OLED driver was down slightly. So that's basically the 2 main product lines.

Tony Tseng

executive
#23

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Steve Wang

executive
#24

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Tony Tseng

executive
#25

Could you also provide some overall review on your driver business, such as the large panel driver versus small medium-sized driver and also a little bit more color on the OLED and the TDDI for example for overall 2020?

David Chen

executive
#26

In 2020, the overall large panel driver and the small, medium-sized driver, they account roughly 50%, 50% of the driver line revenue, okay? And looking at the large panel driver, what you're seeing that is that the overall unit shipment, it's kind of flat. And mainly, it is due to the large panel driver, the trend towards the gate on the rate, which doesn't need a gate driver. So basically, the gate driver unit shipment has come down a lot. But the OLED class driver has increased quite a bit. So that was the situation in 2020, among the large panel driver.

Steve Wang

executive
#27

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David Chen

executive
#28

Then the large panel and small and medium-sized panel revenue is pretty much 50-50. But if for the overall 2020, the small, medium-sized revenue will be a little bit higher than that of the large panel driver.

Tony Tseng

executive
#29

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Steve Wang

executive
#30

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Tony Tseng

executive
#31

We noticed the inventory at the end of quarter 4 increased 6% quarter-over-quarter. You also mentioned earlier, partially came from the local lead time due to the tight contract on the pledging side for SOC. Are there more than -- are there reasons for that this inventory increase?

David Chen

executive
#32

It's pretty due to the SOC line. Cycle time has been extended, and this has -- especially at the back-end packaging side. The capacity is pretty much very tight, and so the cycle time has been longer than normal. So these has been delayed. And this caused the inventory level to go up.

Tony Tseng

executive
#33

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Steve Wang

executive
#34

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Tony Tseng

executive
#35

We noticed your operating cost expanded to almost $200 million in quarter 4, up from about $100 million in Q3. What other major reason behind the quarter-over-quarter increase?

David Chen

executive
#36

Basically this is mainly due to the continued NT dollar appreciation in Q4 versus Q3. Yes. So Tony, see if there's any more question on the Q4 numbers review.

Tony Tseng

executive
#37

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David Chen

executive
#38

Okay. Let's move on to the outlook, okay?

Tony Tseng

executive
#39

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Steve Wang

executive
#40

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Tony Tseng

executive
#41

Before we go for the outlook, a lot of question is more centered on the supply side. And particularly given that we see a lot of news on the expanding tightening on the bank of big recovery on automotive semiconductor demand. Could you provide some comment on your supply side situation?

David Chen

executive
#42

Yes. As everybody knows, the 8-inch and 12-inch, both this foundry site is pretty tight. And of course, this has impacted the auto product line, the supply. And as you know, the automotive, the qualification approval, it takes a longer period of time. So currently, the supply side is very -- pretty much very tight. And the situation will remain like that for a while. It cannot be resolved in a very short period of time.

Tony Tseng

executive
#43

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Steve Wang

executive
#44

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Tony Tseng

executive
#45

Yes. Let's actually talk about the product outlook for first quarter or even for the 2021. Could you provide more color for your individual -- your major product line within your SOC business?

David Chen

executive
#46

Around the SOC side, the -- as mentioned earlier, TV is a big part of our SOC side. TV, we are expecting it to grow this year. And then besides TV, we also have the power related, which we are also pretty positive. And of course, this year, we'll have another product line that we'll be expecting significant growth, and that will be the surveillance.

Tony Tseng

executive
#47

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Steve Wang

executive
#48

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Tony Tseng

executive
#49

As for TV SOC, last year, we knew that a lot of growth came from your customers in Korea. How about this year's growth opportunity in Korea, South Korea as well as other countries?

David Chen

executive
#50

Well, the Korean market, we do expect it continue to grow, and it should be positive. But besides Korean market, I mean, we are also making good progress outside the Korean market, for example, in China and the other areas.

Steve Wang

executive
#51

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David Chen

executive
#52

I think the main -- the focus that we want to -- is how to resolve the supply issue on the foundry side and on the back-end packaging and testing side. That will be our main focus. Basically, the demand is very healthy and strong. And the only issue will be the supply side right there.

Tony Tseng

executive
#53

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Steve Wang

executive
#54

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Tony Tseng

executive
#55

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Steve Wang

executive
#56

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Tony Tseng

executive
#57

Now in addition to the TV SoC, [ Range Rover ] also mentioned about the growth in the SoC coming from power. Investors are less familiar with your power business. Could you also provide more color on your power business outlook?

David Chen

executive
#58

Well, the -- our power line was mainly focused on the large panel display-related, but now we are also moving to the mobile smartphone display related to power. So we are making a progress in the various areas.

Tony Tseng

executive
#59

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Steve Wang

executive
#60

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Tony Tseng

executive
#61

Now switch gear to your surveillance SoC. You mentioned about the growth opportunity will be pretty impressive into 2021. Could you provide also more color on this business?

David Chen

executive
#62

As you know, we've been working on the surveillance solution for quite a while. And currently, we are making a lot of progress no matter whether it is on the before market or aftermarket, okay? So the -- so we are expecting this area to grow and besides that, we also have -- used to have a lot of the dash camera for automotive, and it will continue to grow.

Tony Tseng

executive
#63

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Steve Wang

executive
#64

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Tony Tseng

executive
#65

As for SoC product, in addition to the 3 business lines with strong momentum in 2021, do you have other products to highlight or share with investors for the growth opportunity?

David Chen

executive
#66

As everybody knows, at Novatek, we've been focusing on 2 major areas. That would be the smart display and smart image processing of video. And also, of course, these are all for different various display technology, okay? So we'll continue to focus in this area to provide a lot of good solutions and high performance, especially on the picture quality. So we'll continue to focus on this area. I mean there's a lot of things to be done in those areas and new technologies coming up, covering all the different applications and different display technologies.

Tony Tseng

executive
#67

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Steve Wang

executive
#68

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Tony Tseng

executive
#69

A follow-up question about the supply chain constraints. Could you also give more color on your supply chain side?

Steve Wang

executive
#70

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David Chen

executive
#71

Regarding the supply -- the tightness -- the question on the supply tightness. And what Steve just said is that on the foundry side, no matter if it is 8-inch or 12-inch, across the board, all the different nodes, all of them are tight. There's no area where it is not tight, okay? And on the back-end side, what we are seeing is that especially on the packaging side, the BGA and a lot of those packaging that related to wire bounding, and those are very tight, and the cycle time has been extended.

Tony Tseng

executive
#72

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Steve Wang

executive
#73

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Tony Tseng

executive
#74

Now we switch to the driver side. Let's start with the large-size driver. Could you provide some color on your large-size driver for first quarter or for the full year 2021 in terms of growth opportunity and also breaking down by quantity and versus ASP?

Steve Wang

executive
#75

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David Chen

executive
#76

The current situation what we are seeing is that because of the pandemic, as mentioned earlier, work from home, learn from home or gaming monitor, and these are actually driving the growth for the large-size panel. And we are expecting the large-size panel, because of this COVID, it will continue to grow. And because of this, the demand for driver is also very strong. But the thing is that the -- currently, the supply on the foundry side is also very tight. So we need to work hard to try to secure more capacity to fulfill our customer needs. And of course, because of this, we need to work very closely with our customer. And if there's a need to increase the ASP or to increase our competitiveness in securing the capacity, we'll try our best to work closely with our customer. So in that case, there is a possibility that the ASP will change accordingly, depends on the supply side.

Steve Wang

executive
#77

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David Chen

executive
#78

So because of the tightness, Steve just mentioned that we anticipate that the ASP might go up further because of the tightness in the supply side.

Tony Tseng

executive
#79

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Steve Wang

executive
#80

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Tony Tseng

executive
#81

A follow-up question about the supply chain constraint. What's the solution for Novatek to take to stop the supply side constraints?

David Chen

executive
#82

Well, there's no other way. The only way is to try to work as closely as possible with our supplier and try to secure more capacity as much as possible. So -- and the other area that we can do is try to diversify the supply.

Tony Tseng

executive
#83

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Steve Wang

executive
#84

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Tony Tseng

executive
#85

Just also want to give us some color about the cost trend as well as the impact to your margin?

David Chen

executive
#86

Well, I think the main thing that we need to do is to resolve the supply issue. So I think we'll work together with our customer and along with our supplier, okay, so see how to find ways to improve the supply to provide the best service to our customer. So I mean, this is very dynamic. So we need to work on a daily basis.

Tony Tseng

executive
#87

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Steve Wang

executive
#88

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Tony Tseng

executive
#89

According to the recent reports, Samsung has decidedly to kill off part of LCD capacity for internal use. Does this have any impact to Novatek business?

David Chen

executive
#90

Well, looking at the Korean panel supply, and we are seeing the large panel supply, the market share actually is coming down over the past many months. But even though it has been delayed, but I don't think the trend will -- there will be any change to the trend. So I think it's just a matter of time. So from our point of view, we don't see any -- really any impact on our business.

Tony Tseng

executive
#91

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Steve Wang

executive
#92

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Tony Tseng

executive
#93

Let's switch to the 3 small, medium-sized driver. The first question is about the TDDI. Could you provide some guidance for your first quarter shipments as well as the whole year shipment target or even your expectation for the overall TDDI market?

David Chen

executive
#94

Well, looking at Q1, because of the Chinese New Year, there will be a less number of working days. And then upon that, then you have some supply tightness so it's very difficult to expect TDDI to -- Q-o-Q to grow. So we are expecting TDDI shipment Q-o-Q to be roughly flat, roughly flat. And as for the whole year 2021, it will really depend on the supply, okay? As for demand, definitely, it will be much higher than 2020. And so the overall shipment as a whole, it really depends on the supply.

Tony Tseng

executive
#95

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Steve Wang

executive
#96

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Tony Tseng

executive
#97

Follow-up question on TDDI. Could you also give more color on the supply side? Also the cost and the ASP trend as well as the impact on your margin?

David Chen

executive
#98

Well, I think the automotive demand -- I mean if -- definitely, we'll have some impact on the overall supply side. And it will have some stress on everybody. So our main job is, as I mentioned earlier, need to work closely with our customer and how -- try to find ways to resolve the issues. As for the ASP, it will all depend on supply and demand. It's hard to say. So we'll see how things turn out. But basically, it's all supply and demand issues.

Tony Tseng

executive
#99

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Steve Wang

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#100

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Tony Tseng

executive
#101

So the next question is about the OLED driver, which is very interesting. Could you also provide the shipment trend in the first quarter or also some outlook for your 2021?

David Chen

executive
#102

Well, as mentioned earlier, during the Q4 period, I mean, due to some reason, the OLED shipment actually declined for Novatek. But looking at Q1, we are expecting the shipment to recover and even better than Q4, okay, should be better than Q4. But also 2021, there is a very high chance it will be much better than 2020. It will depend on supply.

Steve Wang

executive
#103

Okay. Let me add some comments. [Foreign Language]

David Chen

executive
#104

We're also seeing there's a lot of customers increasing the adoption of the flexible OLED solution.

Tony Tseng

executive
#105

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Steve Wang

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#106

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Tony Tseng

executive
#107

A follow-up question about the OLED driver. How is the opportunity to work with the non-China [ panel ] OE line? And also provide some time table for your OLED TDDI.

David Chen

executive
#108

Well, we've been working very closely with the Chinese panel maker and we've been working on this for a long period of time. So currently, we are, I mean, seeing good progress in that area. And as for the OLED TDDI, it will really depends on the panel type, their progress. And basically, we are expecting to have our sample ready this year.

Tony Tseng

executive
#109

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Steve Wang

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#110

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Tony Tseng

executive
#111

It's a follow-up question about the OLED driver pricing. Just given the very -- although a tight supply on the supply side, could you also provide some trend on the cost, pricing or the gross margin?

David Chen

executive
#112

As mentioned earlier, I mean, the overall supply side, no matter 8-inch, 12-inch, all the different nodes or even the back end, everything is tight. So basically, this is a similar situation to the large-size and the other product line. So our main job is to work closely with our customer and try to secure the capacity. So this is pretty much similar to the other product line.

Tony Tseng

executive
#113

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Steve Wang

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#114

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Tony Tseng

executive
#115

Also, let's switch to the automotive driver. Could you provide some color for your first quarter growth of the whole 2021? And also the supply side, also comment on the supply side as well.

David Chen

executive
#116

Well, the overall auto IC, actually, automotive IC is tight. I mean for the display driver is also very tight. And we did expect our auto product line to grow this year, basically because we've been cooking, designing in and bringing the whole process for more than 2 years now. So we do expect our automotive DE IC line to grow this year. And of course, again, the tightness in the foundry side is also the issue that we need to resolve and to work -- try to squeeze out more capacity, but we do expect our automotive line to grow this year.

Steve Wang

executive
#117

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David Chen

executive
#118

Steve just mentioned that most of our automotive display ICE actually uses the 8-inch wafer. So basically as long as it's 8 inch, it is always -- I mean it's been tight for a while. So yes, it will be an area that we need to work hard to resolve.

Tony Tseng

executive
#119

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Steve Wang

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#120

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Tony Tseng

executive
#121

Also, I touched about your other business. Could you provide some update on your fingerprint, including your other display fingerprint as well as the 3-in-1 integrated product?

David Chen

executive
#122

The mention about the fingerprint, the under display. Last year, actually, we were designing in, things were moving on pretty smoothly, but due to the changes in the environment, so it was delayed. So we started to readjust. And currently, there's a very big chance that our fingerprint will go into mass production in Q2.

Steve Wang

executive
#123

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David Chen

executive
#124

As for the FTDDI, or the integrated solution of touch, driver and the fingerprint, we've been -- we're working very closely with our panel maker. And on our side, our solution is -- we have a very good control of our solutions, but we need to work very closely with our panel maker. And there are some barriers that they need to overcome. So currently, things are moving on smoothly, but it still needs some time.

Tony Tseng

executive
#125

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Steve Wang

executive
#126

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Tony Tseng

executive
#127

Could you talk about other new products such as variable OLED driver as well as mini-LED drivers?

David Chen

executive
#128

Our variable OLED driver solution has -- I mean it's been -- it's already been introduced. So it's been designing in to various customer site. And yes, we are expecting it to go into mass production this year. And as for the mini-LED side, it has -- the 2 product line. One is for the backlight application, one is for display. And both of these lines, I mean, both of them are already in small volume production now.

Tony Tseng

executive
#129

[Foreign Language]

Steve Wang

executive
#130

[Foreign Language]

Tony Tseng

executive
#131

Also, could you talk about -- there's a lot of recent news on Honor, which was sold from Huawei. Could you also provide some comment on your activities with this new brand?

David Chen

executive
#132

So for Novatek, we always want to work with everybody, okay? So we try to build a long-term relationship with everybody. So we'll continue to do so. Any more questions on the -- if investors have any more questions?

Unknown Shareholder

shareholder
#133

[Foreign Language]

Steve Wang

executive
#134

[Foreign Language]

Tony Tseng

executive
#135

The investor also wonders whether Novatek has any view on the inventory level for on the smartphone supply chain.

David Chen

executive
#136

Well, the thing is that our customer on the smartphone, the mobile driver side, there's still very strong demand requests coming in from our customer side. So we don't think the inventory will be an issue on our customer side.

Unknown Shareholder

shareholder
#137

[Foreign Language]

Steve Wang

executive
#138

[Foreign Language]

Tony Tseng

executive
#139

Yes, investor are very impressed by our first quarter guidance for both revenue and the gross margin. Therefore, they wonder if this kind of good gross margin can be sustained into 2021 or at least into the second quarter?

David Chen

executive
#140

Well, as you know, besides the tightness in the foundry, we are also -- we have also introduced a lot of new products that -- in the market. So we do expect our revenue and margin to have a good performance this year. And of course, again, we need to resolve the supply issues. But as a whole, we do have expectations for our revenue and margin this year.

Unknown Shareholder

shareholder
#141

[Foreign Language]

Steve Wang

executive
#142

[Foreign Language]

Tony Tseng

executive
#143

A follow-up questions on the revenue side. As you just provided a very strong above-the-narrative revenue guidance for first quarter, therefore, investor wonder if this kind of momentum could be carried into the second quarter.

David Chen

executive
#144

We hope so. We are hoping a surprise. Yes. We need to resolve the supply issue but we hope, we hope Q2 will continue to good performance. Yes, in Q2.

Unknown Shareholder

shareholder
#145

[Foreign Language]

Sheng-Cheng Chou

executive
#146

[Foreign Language]

Tony Tseng

executive
#147

As for the operating expense, the first quarter will be around 16% to 16.5% based upon FX rate at TWD 28 per USD 1 We are not providing the full year operating expense guidance here. But we did mention over the past 3 years, the operating expense stay at about 16% to 17%, and this should be a range to refer. And also in terms of tax rate for the whole year, we expect the tax rate in 2021 will be around 19%.

David Chen

executive
#148

Any more questions? It's about time if there is. We have a few more -- we have few minutes for extra 1 or 2 questions.

Unknown Executive

executive
#149

[Foreign Language]

Unknown Shareholder

shareholder
#150

[Foreign Language]

Steve Wang

executive
#151

[Foreign Language]

Tony Tseng

executive
#152

Management mentioned about a lot of business opportunity will be constrained by the supply chain tight. Just wonder if any other operating risk to highlight for 2021?

David Chen

executive
#153

I think the main thing will be still on the supply side that we need to resolve. And the other thing is that for an IC fab design house, it's always to improve our core competence, and this is always our job. And so we'll continue to invest into the R&D, as mentioned earlier, to improve our competitiveness.

Unknown Shareholder

shareholder
#154

[Foreign Language]

Steve Wang

executive
#155

[Foreign Language]

Tony Tseng

executive
#156

Just want to recap, can you share some overall outlook for your 2021 volume for your 3 big lines: SoC, ISI driver and small, medium-sized driver?

David Chen

executive
#157

Well, for our SoC line, we do expect to have a good growth this year in 2021. And as mentioned earlier, IT-related product demand is still there. So the market is there, so we'll try best to grow ourselves. I think it's pretty much this is the last question. So thank you so much for joining in, and wishing you all a very Happy Lunar New Year.

Steve Wang

executive
#158

[Foreign Language]

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