nVent Electric plc (NVT) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

February 17, 2021

New York Stock Exchange US Industrials Electrical Equipment conference_presentation 33 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#1

Great. Well, thank you, everyone, for joining. My name is Julian Mitchell. And it's my pleasure to have for our fireside chat this morning, nVent Corporation. We have Beth Wozniak, CEO; and also Sara Zawoyski, CFO. [Operator Instructions] So I think with that, I'll hand over to Beth for some introductory remarks before our Q&A.

Beth Wozniak

executive
#2

Julian, thank you. Well, I just wanted to share 2020 was a tough year for everyone. And I think what it showed for us at nVent is our ability to execute very well. And I say that because through every quarter, we improved our sales sequentially. We also managed our decrementals well. And I think our cash generation was at record-level performance. So our first priority was our employees and safety, but then it was to ensure that we could serve our customers; and third, to emerge stronger. So on that front, I think we showed strong execution, continued improvement. But we also continued to invest in growth. We talked a lot about, as the economy recovers, emerging stronger. We had a record number of new products launched. We had record performance in terms of our digital launches. And we have coming up an Investor Day on March 3. And as we think about where we're headed as nVent, it's really focusing our portfolio around this trend of the electrification of everything. And so from that standpoint, with its automation, with 5G, with data centers, whether it's the grid build-out, a lot of our products are pointed towards that electrical infrastructure. So we think our future looks bright. Now as we come into this year, still a lot of challenges, and we're just -- still uncertainty. But at the point, our long-term prospects, we feel very good about with this electrification of everything. So Julian, that's just a few comments that I wanted to start with, and over to you for questions.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#3

Beth, so -- yes, you mentioned that electrification aspect. Maybe give us any impression of what impact that could have on the kind of broad end market or addressable market growth rates for nVent, the next 5, 10 years versus perhaps what you had seen in those end market growth rates pre-COVID or over the last 5 or 10 years? How much of a step-up do you think investors could expect?

Beth Wozniak

executive
#4

Our view in a normal environment, and we're not there yet, right, is that we want to be growing 1% to 2% above GDP, and we think that's very possible given these electrification trends. If you think about Enclosures where we were very industrial focused, but now we started investing in data networking solutions, saw that double-digit growth over the last couple of years pre-pandemic. But everything -- and with our Eldon acquisition, everything needs an enclosure. And so you're seeing whether it's automation in factories, you're seeing the rail and transportation system, you're seeing the build-out of 5G, so that all plays into the need for enclosures. Similarly, if I just chose another segment, our EFS segment, we have 2 aspects there. We do a lot around cable management in commercial or data and networking applications. And if you think about a building, the need -- we manage data and power. Well, the need to manage data and power in a building and a warehouse has increased significantly, requiring more of our products. The other part of our Electrical & Fastening Solutions business is around what we do with protection around grounding or bonding. We play strongly in utilities there as we start to see, whether it's renewable energy, all that conversion of solar or wind when we think about just automation. So our portfolio is really geared to all these trends around all of our infrastructure becoming electrified.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#5

Perfect. And I suppose one aspect that's getting particular attention in recent days, partly the extreme weather and also some commentary from the new administration, is around grid upgrades or revamps domestically in the U.S. Maybe help remind us sort of what are nVent's core products and strengths in that utility realm? And how optimistic you are on the prospects on that utility piece?

Beth Wozniak

executive
#6

Yes. All of our segments play in utilities, most strongly is our Electrical & Fastening Solutions. So we do everything from connections to grounding and bonding, to surge protection, to enclosures that are supporting any -- whether it's substation build-out or anything that needs to house the electronics. We have ground rods that are obviously a part of that. We have applications of our heat trace that's been used in utilities. So it's an area for us that we already have a strength, but we think we're going to continue to build out along with any of that other electrical infrastructure.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#7

Perfect. And those are sort of some major end market drivers. When we're thinking about nVent's own ability to drive maybe market share gains within the addressable market, what are the areas, whether it's end market verticals, geographic regions where you're most optimistic that we can see over the next 2 to 3 years, some of those market share gains come through?

Beth Wozniak

executive
#8

Yes. I think it is some of those electrical infrastructure markets that we're going to see growing. And so we believe we're well positioned there. We've done a lot around alignment of our commercial teams, our marketing and sales teams, to really how do we drive demand at the end user level, get spec'd in, in some cases? How do we support our channel partners and continue to take share? How do we build loyalty programs with contractors as we launch new products? So I think we're really ensuring that we're positioned well. The second, I would say, is around new products. This -- as I mentioned, it was a record year. And we can see it even in 2020 where we've had contractor conversions because we've launched new products. With the addition of our Eldon IEC portfolio, we're able to serve global OEMs who wanted to have one specification around the world. And with that portfolio, we've been able to work on some OEM conversions, right, which will be future growth for us. So new products. And then from the standpoint of just continuing to expand what we do globally, I mentioned Eldon, but for us, it's really looking at how -- we've done a lot around channels in North America, doing the same thing in Europe because we have a great portfolio. So how do we ensure that as One nVent, we're able to build those relationships out. So we saw -- we've started to see some momentum in Europe, right, on the orders side as a result of that. So global growth is the other key area. And that's really been our strategy, high-growth verticals, win with new products, and how do we expand globally.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#9

Perfect. And then on the digital aspect, I'm sure we'll hear a lot more on March 3 about digital and what nVent is doing on that front. I think you'd mentioned that last year was also the last 12 months have been important in the progress there. What are the sort of 1 or 2 areas within that strategy that you'd call out, realize it's very early days, what do you think can have the most traction?

Beth Wozniak

executive
#10

Yes. I think the area we've had the most traction is around the -- we think of it as our go-to-market or the customer journey. And I don't think any company today can just be -- cannot consider themselves a digital company because as equally as important, and we have great brands and great products, but you have to have a great customer experience. So we've done a lot around investing in our websites; making sure our digital product information is available, whether it's on our websites or through our channel partners because that's their ability to sell those products; how you search; how you configure price quotes. So if you were looking at some of our Enclosures' websites, you would find that you can go online, and you can have a guided configured process to select a product and see that's in stock. We can guide you to what's available now in stock at some of our channel partners. We've invested in things like instant quotes so we can respond to you very quickly. That makes that whole buying process for a customer or an OEM easier. And I would say, beyond that, there's been a lot of digital marketing in this virtual world, how do we do digital market -- how do we do digital training. We've been training national contractors with -- and so all of this builds that ability to support and serve. Then there's a lot of things we're doing in our back office, whether it's our sales and marketing tools and linking them, whether it's investing more in our factories around the ability to extract data and help us be more predictive. We've been building an intelligent platform that allows us with every different system that we have to be able to extract that data. And I think there's more to come because the power of data, well, is so important. And so we're driving productivity, we're driving the customer experience, and we're just improving how we operate. So more to come, but that's just a flavor of some of the things we've been working on.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#11

Perfect. And we get a lot of questions from investors around -- more conversations around infrastructure stimulus domestically. The grid, we mentioned, was one part of that, but there's a lot more to it. How effectively do you think nVent would be positioned to benefit from any kind of domestic push in that direction? Do you have a sort of targeted approach ready if you start to see some larger projects kind of break loose and get fresh funding?

Beth Wozniak

executive
#12

Yes. Our view is 2 things: one, ensuring we have the right products. Now we've been serving many of these industries. And so you think about whether -- even renewables. So it's the grid, whether it's renewables, whether it's the move towards e-mobility or energy storage. So we've been positioning our products and creating new products over the last couple of years since then. Then I mentioned how we've done demand creation, and we've looked at our sales organization that we have a team that is driving specification and we have a team that's supporting our channel partners and just creating awareness by training installers and contractors. So our view is, as there is stimulus or there is a shift or a move there, is we think about it on multiple levels, having the right product, having the right demand creation, having the right support network to be positioned well. And on all of those fronts, we feel very good, and whether that's in the U.S. or whether that's in Europe, where there's also a very strong green push.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#13

One question we sometimes get asked about the revenue mix is that geographic aspect. The Eldon deal was a very big step to building out the European footprint. Beyond sort of North America and Europe, maybe help us understand what are nVent's aspirations to grow? Do you see a number of attractive acquisition targets in those high-growth or emerging regions? Maybe just some of the ambitions there.

Beth Wozniak

executive
#14

Yes. Two things, both organic and inorganic. So we built out a new factory in India, which is sort of an area for us, and that's an area where we've really strengthened what we do, talk about electrical around rail and transit on the electrification side. We're expanding into a new factory in China this year, which is also to -- again, to better support those markets. When you think about the Eldon acquisition, that IEC portfolio, they also were positioned in India. So now we're also -- this year, we took that portfolio, and we started to manufacture it in North America last year. Now we're going to start to manufacture that portfolio in China. So our manufacturing footprint and that acquisition of Eldon, and they had some position globally, but we're now able to accelerate that, as an example. So I think we're making investments in new products, localizing them in places like China. We're expanding our commercial teams, and we're also looking at some acquisitions that can give us a stronger global position.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#15

Perfect. And maybe switching to the profit outlook. There is a lot of investment underway at nVent, which, I think, investors definitely welcomed. Do you think it creates any kind of major headwind in the next year or 2 to margins? Or you can reinvest at kind of a steady rate as a proportion of sales? And maybe help us understand how comfortable you are with the efficiency of the R&D and sales? Do you think you're getting the real sort of payback on those that one would hope?

Beth Wozniak

executive
#16

So when we look at R&D, I would say that we wanted to increase to -- we were at 2% -- below 2% around spin and got -- and wanted to get to 3%, and we said we were going to fund that from some of our G&A. Well, I would say, last year, just with the pandemic, we didn't quite make the increases we wanted to. Now having said that, our processes around just kind of thinking market back, driving velocity, we talk about that as our Spark Management System, we had a record number of new products. And we believe we're going to have about a point of sales and improve our vitality every year. So I would say we believe we can continue to invest here at a rate that we can sell fund. But even having said that, we were able to get more output out. And we're early days, we started to implement agile into our digital efforts, and it got adopted so quickly because of our lean culture, and we're really implementing agile, and it's a hybrid because agile is more software than hardware. But that is part of our efforts this year as well as improving the commercial launch process. So I believe that we're seeing our -- just our internal capability to execute really well that we're getting a lot of output from these investments. Digital is an area that over the last couple of years we've continued to increase our investment. And when it comes to sales and marketing, this was actually an area where we had to more or less redeploy and get and redistribute. Because I would say, in some cases, we had very fragmented rep networks, where we just didn't have the distribution coverage, and we talk a lot about One nVent where we can scale what we do. So we've actually become more efficient in sales and marketing and been able to redeploy to get higher revenue as a result of it. So I feel that our investment model, we've been able to manage it kind of within our financial framework that we've given forth, and we've actually seen great output as a result of what we've done in just our process efficiency.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#17

Perfect. And I think if we think about incremental margins, maybe some headwind in the current year from input cost and cost inflation. So maybe give us an update on where we stand on that likely kind of scale of input cost or inflation headwind and then some of the measures that you're using to mitigate that?

Sara Zawoyski

executive
#18

Yes. So maybe I'll take that one, Julian. So maybe I would start from the standpoint of -- from an underlying incremental perspective, and over the course of time, we expect our portfolio to have incrementals in the 30% to 35%-plus range. That's really indicative of strength of our portfolio, leadership positions, the strong value position. But in the context of 2021, we do expect those incrementals to be more in the mid-20s range. A couple of things impacting that. One would be just these temporary costs folding back in. We talked about these temporary costs in the context of benefiting 2020 in roughly $30 million. That's not going to all come in day 1. A big chunk of that, for example, is really the T&E expense, for example. We don't expect that to kind of feather back in until Q2, maybe even Q3, Q4. So that will kind of feather in over time. So that's one of the headwinds impacting incrementals for this year. The second piece is really the price cost dynamic. I'll maybe start by saying, we talked about this a bit on an earnings call last week, is that in more inflationary times, we're confident in our ability to get price. We managed that inflation with a combination of price plus productivity. Clearly, we're seeing some more inflationary pressures as we exited the year. And we have reacted to that, taking some incremental pricing actions. So we feel that we're well positioned to manage that price cost equation. It's just by sort of math, as you add more inflation, you cover that by way of price in a more highly inflationary environment, that's going to impact the math on the incremental side of the equation. So I think maybe the one other thing I would point out, too, is we do expect to offset this inflation, some of these temporary costs with 2 other things. One, we expect to get good leverage on the volume. So that's going to be a positive for us. I think the other thing is we have good cost savings carry over from all the structural actions that we did in 2020. So those 2 things should help offset the inflationary environment that we see in combination with offsetting some of these temporary costs as well.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#19

Perfect. And maybe, let's say, we do see cost inflation continue to increase as a headwind through the year. Does the company have a lot of sort of contingency measures lined up to offset those? Just trying to gauge sort of how agile or flexible the organization is. It's been a stand-alone entity for almost 3 years now. So is it kind of well set in that respect?

Sara Zawoyski

executive
#20

So maybe a couple of points there, I would say. In the past, in a highly inflationary environment, we would look to manage that by way of price plus productivity. But on the price front, in this highly inflationary environment, we have been -- done this in the past of going out with even more multiple price increases through the course of the year. So we would look to understand kind of what that inflationary looks like. We would look to take incremental pricing actions to offset that. Just maybe a reminder there, roughly 2/3 of our revenue goes through distribution. So when we take these pricing actions, it's a bit more kind of holistic, if you will. And then it would be through a combination of productivity as well. I mean I think we're always looking at our funnel and kind of what can we pull forward our work to offset. But with the combination of price plus productivity, we feel like we're well positioned to be able to manage any inflationary pressures. I think the one other point I would talk about as well is with our materials that we do buy, particularly on the metal side, we do have essentially locking programs. So what that does is that gives us a bit of leeway and headway to how this inflation will roll into the P&L of roughly a quarter or so. So again, that gives us good planning time to have those discussions with our customers and with our channel partners on the pricing side of the equation.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#21

Perfect. That's helpful. And actually, there's one topic, I think, Beth, you'd mentioned at the beginning, the bright prospects at Enclosures and also EFS. We haven't discussed thermal much yet. Clearly, that had a difficult time pre-COVID and then a tough last 12 months like most businesses we follow across the board. But how confident are you that in this looming recovery, the thermal business can kind of hold its own, see a good increase in sales and earnings and sort of prove its place in the portfolio, if you like?

Beth Wozniak

executive
#22

Yes. When we think about that portfolio, and since then -- we've always said there's 3 aspects to it. There's a project piece, there's MRO, and there's commercial. And since then, the commercial resi business has actually performed well, right? And I think we're going to see -- we're going to continue to see the resi side of that very strong, right, where we do some underfloor heating. But then where we also play, we've got opportunities beyond just new construction methods with our fire-rated wiring, for example, as a better construction approach. So I think our commercial business will continue to do well and expand globally. When I think about the MRO business, that was most hit last year. And that's why you see what happened to our margins, still nice about 20%. But our margin hit from where we were operating, that will come back. And over -- since then, that is a piece of our business that has also grown other than last year. Now I don't know -- we don't believe it comes back all the way to where it was in 2019. But certainly, it was a lever everyone pulled. As -- we believe it will come back this year, it will be better off the lows of last year. And we've done work to really position ourselves to create more value on the MRO side. This has been the whole force behind a lot of our new controllers, and our connectivity there is how do we provide better monitoring, better controls capability and a lot of the connected controls that we've created are able to be retrofitted with what's out in the field, right? So it's an MRO opportunity as well as a growth opportunity. And then the project side, that's an area that we've held, and I think you've seen, that's where we -- the thermal business has had most of the challenge over the last several years. And I think we're probably at a low point there. And so I think we're going to execute on our backlog there. But what we've seen in the portfolio is a shift to where we have more industrial and chemical focus, which we believe is going to continue to have investments, particularly in Asia. And so I think we've repositioned that portfolio to focus on where those growth elements are, and this is a year where we're going to come off the lows of what we saw in 2020.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#23

And Beth, maybe sort of putting those comments in context to what you've said at the beginning around the company aims for that sort of GDP plus 1 to 2 point growth rate through a cycle or over time. Can thermal get to that level, do you think, with the current sort of portfolio it has? What's the conviction that thermal can really be GDP plus 1 or 2 points over time?

Beth Wozniak

executive
#24

I think the underlying -- look, that business can be there, and we've seen it in the past. And I think the commercial side and that MRO side can operate. Their projects just tend to be a little bit more lumpy. That's the one dynamic, right? And so you just -- there's a cyclicality there. And so that's the one area there that I just think we're going to see that -- the projects are probably slowly going to increase. But I think net-net, we're still going to see growth in that thermal business just from where we are today to -- there's going to be a trajectory there.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#25

And looking at the portfolio sort of more broadly, were there things that during the downturn -- it was the first downturn since the spin-out. Were there sort of things you learned about the portfolio, things that surprised you? How satisfied have you been with how the portfolio has performed in this downturn?

Beth Wozniak

executive
#26

When we -- as we entered this pandemic, one of the things that we had developed, even prior to the pandemic, were these scenarios, right, for a downturn, for example. And I think what surprised me is how well we were able to execute. And in fact, the scenarios that we laid out, we actually overperformed in terms of the decrementals, in terms of our cash conversion. And I think what I also saw over the course of the year is because this was our year that we've started to really build momentum on new products and digital is that in a virtual way of working, right, with the appropriate tools and discipline around agile and other areas, how well we could execute? How well we could really go to digital and say, this is the new way of working. We need to shift resources and focus. So what I think I was very pleasantly surprised is how quickly we could manage and allocate resources and execute. And I think that, that ability to be that agile is going to be equally important because, look, at some point, right, the economy can have -- we might have resurgence. And so similarly, we have scenarios we're developing on what if there is more demand, right, that it accelerates? Do we have the capacity? I would share with you when we spun, recall we had a lot of challenges. We had -- EFS didn't have the capacity, Enclosures had some transition issues. So now we think about is the capacity there? Whether it's labor, whether it's capital, whether it's the supply chain. And so I think we proved over last year that when we put a playbook in place, we can execute well. So it's equally important that we have those playbooks that if there is momentum on growth, how do we ensure that we can benefit from all that and not leave a couple of points of growth on the table because we can't serve it.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#27

That makes sense. And when you're looking at sort of the M&A activity, what sort of firepower do you think the company can sort of put to work in the next year or 2 on that? And it is an environment of very high versus history, at least, public valuations. It's a good kind of sellers market at the moment, it feels like. How rich is the M&A funnel at the company in terms of deals that meet your financial criteria?

Beth Wozniak

executive
#28

Yes. We have a really good funnel. And I -- we've often characterized it that we're -- what we do is connect and protect. And we're a $2 billion company. As we think of the broad landscape, it's a $60 billion landscape. It's highly fragmented, especially where our Electrical & Fastening Solutions business plays. And so we believe there are lots of opportunities, and we'd expect that we'd be able to execute on some acquisitions this year. In the past, I would tell you, we gated ourselves because we wanted to prove that we could execute an integration well. And I think we've done that with Eldon, and even WBT, which was a smaller deal, we completely integrated that virtually. So I think we have the confidence in the playbooks again that our ability to do a couple of deals in a year and to be able to execute those well and create the value from it, both on the synergy side and the cost side, but driving growth, we think there's -- we'll have opportunities to do that this year.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#29

And that's really sort of valuations that you think are acceptable, you can still get a sort of high single-digit return in 3 or 5 years' time?

Beth Wozniak

executive
#30

That's correct, yes.

Sara Zawoyski

executive
#31

Yes. Our stated goals here, just we want to get that return on invested capital, right, greater than WACC in that 2- to 3-year time frame. And I think one other thing I would maybe add to that is just sort of the optionality that we have with our balance sheet. So we feel great about kind of where we exited the year at 2.1x net debt-to-EBITDA leverage. I think that really speaks to the strength and the resiliency of our cash flow. We had sort of that record conversion in what was obviously a challenging year. And our working capital initiatives are a big part of us being able to enable that strong cash flow. But again, just shows the underlying kind of resiliency of that. So 2.1x is where we exited. We stated that sort of -- in sort of a normal course, right, we'd target in that 2 to 2.5x range. Obviously, if there is an M&A transaction or 2 that would take us a bit above that, we'd manage that accordingly back in that range with strong cash flow.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#32

Yes. And on that point, Sara, free cash flow conversion, obviously, exceptional partly because of abnormal working capital dynamics, if you like, as revenues came in. How confident are you that you can keep a lead on that working capital swelling this year and keep the cash conversion or the free cash flow margin at a high level?

Sara Zawoyski

executive
#33

Yes. So working capital was sort of a top priority for us in the course of this year or 2020, and it's going to continue to be in the course of 2021. Clearly, as you suggest, Julian, we did have some working capital tailwinds that come with just overall the sales coming down. But I would say that if you peel that back, and if you look at it just from a days perspective, we actually made really good headway within our days payable. I would say we managed DSO really, really well because you might imagine there was pressure points there. And in the inventory, while we definitely made some investments there to manage that supply chain and ensure that we were improving on those customer service levels and delivery metrics, I would say that we continued to make some significant improvement, in -- particularly, in one of our businesses, Electrical & Fastening Solutions. And I think that's just an indicative of their overall continued advancements in lean. You saw that show up in their return on sales, ROS, expansion. You see that it came up across all of their working capital improvements that they made in the course of the year. So as I think about 2021, clearly, with sales, right, you're going to have those working capital investments come in, but we believe that with our focus and continuing to focus on this working capital initiatives, in particular, inventory as well as the other metrics that we can help offset the -- driving to that 100% conversion in the course of 2021.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#34

Perfect. Well, I think we're out of time, unfortunately. I know you have a busy schedule of meetings. So thanks very much, Beth, Sara, and also J.C. and Nicholai in the IR team. And good luck with the meetings today.

Beth Wozniak

executive
#35

Thank you, Julian.

Sara Zawoyski

executive
#36

Thanks, Julian.

J. Weigelt

executive
#37

Thanks, Julian. Bye.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#38

Thanks.

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