O-I Glass, Inc. (OI) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

July 29, 2026

NYSE US Materials Containers and Packaging earnings 57 min

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Operator

operator
#1

Thank you. Thank you for standing by. My name is Gabby and I will be your conference moderator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the OI Glass Second Quarter 2026 Earnings Conference Call. After today's prepared remote, we will host a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, press star 1 again. I would now like to turn the call over to Chris Manuel, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead. Thank you.

Christopher Manuel

executive
#2

Thank you, Gabby. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the OI Glass second quarter 2026 earnings conference call. With me today are Gordon Hardy, our CEO, and John Hodrick, our CFO. After prepared remarks, we will open the line for Q&A. Press release and earnings materials are available on the company's website. Please review the safe harbor statements and disclosure regarding our use of non-GAAP financial measures included in those materials. Today's remarks do include forward-looking statements, and actual results may differ materially from our current expectations. With that, I'll turn the call over to Gordon, who will begin our presentation.

Unknown Speaker

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slide three thank you chris and good morning everyone today we will review our second quarter results discuss market conditions and provide an updated view of our 2026 outlook and 2027 targets Before I begin, I want to thank our OI colleagues around the world for their continued commitment and flexibility during a challenging operating period. Let me start with a straightforward assessment. We are clearly disappointed with our first half performance. Europe has not delivered the expected results as outlined in our investor day framework. We own those results. We are taking decisive action. We also think it is important to distinguish between a strategy that is not working and one where value realization has been delayed. We will address that distinction throughout today's discussion. With that, let me turn to recent performance. Second quarter net sales were stable, while adjusted earnings were $0.09 per share compared to $0.53 per share last year. Performance varied significantly by region. Strong America's result helped offset substantially lower earnings in Europe, while an unusually high adjusted tax rate reduced results by $0.18 per share. In the Americas, segment operating profit increased 22% year over year, which we believe demonstrates strong execution of our strategy and the resilience of the business, even with one furnace event during the quarter. Europe was significantly below our expectations and prior year performance. We do not believe this is a structural issue with the business or our strategy. Rather, we believe the shortfall reflected three main factors, elevated competitive pressure affecting selling prices, higher energy costs related to Middle East conflict, and unanticipated operational inefficiency. following restructuring across multiple EU plants, along with two furnace events. We believe these issues are largely transitional and should improve as market conditions recover, And we work through the remaining restructuring challenges.

Operator

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Christopher Manuel

executive
#5

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I'll now comment on recent performance. Second quarter net sales were stable, while adjusted earnings were $0.09 per share, compared with $0.53 per share last year. Performance varied significantly by region. Strong America's result helped offset substantially lower earnings in Europe, while an unusually high adjusted tax rate reduced results by 18 cents per share. The Americas segment operating profit increased 22% year over year, which we believe demonstrates strong execution of our strategy and the resilience of the business, even with one furnace event during the quarter. Europe was significantly below our expectations and prior year performance. We do not believe this is a structural issue with the business or our strategy. Rather, we believe the shortfall reflected three main factors. One, elevated competitive pressure affecting selling prices. Two, higher energy costs related to the Middle East conflict. conflict, and three, unanticipated operational inefficiencies following restructuring across multiple EU plants, along with two furnace events. We believe these issues are largely transitional and should improve as market conditions recover, and we work through the remaining restructuring challenges. Global demand was also softer than expected, with shipments down approximately 4.5% year over year. However, trends improved through the quarter, and June volumes were flat with last year. Operational disruptions also limited sales opportunities and accounted for about half of that decline. We believe fit to win remains a key driver of value creation. We have delivered significant savings year to date despite operational disruption and inefficiencies. In light of these near term challenges, we have adjusted our 2026 fit to win target, while our three year target is now in line with our original expectations of 650 million. Given these factors, we have updated our 2026 guidance and recalibrated our 2027 targets from last year's Investor Day. Importantly, we believe firmly in our strategy. We are realigning the timing to achieve our goals, not changing the strategy. Let's now discuss the top line on slide four. Net sales remain relatively stable in the quarter. Volume performance continued to reflect soft demand, although trends improved as the quarter progressed. As noted, global shipments declined approximately 4.5% year on year, while June volumes were flat with last year. Recovery has been difficult to predict given sluggish consumer demand and customer destocking in certain markets. In the Americas, shipments were down 7%, reflecting challenging prior-year comparisons, exiting some unprofitable business, and a furnace event that limited sales opportunities. In Europe, shipments declined 2%, primarily due to operational disruption that constrained sales. that impact, underlying trends were roughly flat in Europe. We continue to see pockets of strength across the portfolio. Non-alcoholic containers remain a standout performer, and several geographies exceeded local market trends in prior year levels. The Andean group delivered double-digit growth, while Brazil was up low single digits. In fact, we outperformed the market in the majority of category and market clusters amid generally sluggish demand. We continue to expect second half growth supported by easier comparisons and new business wins while maintaining a more cautious recovery outlook. Our commercial transformation continues to gain traction. We are focused on business that generates economic profit and are applying greater discipline across the portfolio. Following strong execution in the Americas, we are starting to get more traction in Europe. New business wins represent approximately 2% of annual sales sales volume with contributions expected later this year. While the recovery remains gradual, improving momentum and portfolio optimization strengthen our confidence in delivering profitable growth. Let's now move to slide five. Fit to win remains central to our strategy and continues to generate meaningful benefits. We believe the program is improving our cost position, strengthening our competitiveness, and building the foundation for long-term profitable growth. Since launch, Fit2Win has generated more than 400 million of net benefits through the the first half of 2026, we delivered 85 million of benefits. This is net of 30 million of direct operating inefficiencies. And the total impact of disruption was approximately $45 million when including constrained opportunities and additional logistics costs phase a execution remain strong. Announced plan closures are complete and we are advancing the final stages of organizational restructuring. Phase B continues to progress, although operational disruption has delayed TOE benefits. We are also advancing supply chain, procurement and energy initiatives that should deliver increased increasing benefits over time. We have revised our 26 and 27 targets to reflect the headwinds discussed today. We now expect approximately 200 million of fit to win savings in 2026 and at least 650 million over the three year period. Importantly, this reflects timing and execution disruption, not a change in underlying opportunity. The Americas performance and recent customer wins are encouraging signs of improved competitiveness through Fit2Win. As execution stabilizes, we believe this can deliver meaningful value over time.

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With that, I'll now turn it over to John on slide six. Thanks, Gordon, and good morning, everyone. The top line was fairly stable, while second quarter results were below our expectation, given challenges in Europe. Net sales were nearly $1.7 billion, down about 2% from the prior year favorable currency and stable consolidated selling prices partially offset lower sales volumes. I'd Adjusted earnings were $0.09 per share compared with $0.53 last year. Lower net price was the primary headwind. Selling prices increased in the Americas, but declined in Europe amid competitive pressure. Europe was also impacted by higher energy costs related to the Middle East conflict and the one-time reset we have discussed previously. Lower sales volume was offset by favorable operating costs, reflecting fit-to-win benefits net of unanticipated costs tied to operating inefficiencies and furnace events. Adjusted earnings also reflect an unusually high adjusted tax rate driven by lower European earnings and a reduced full-year outlook. We also recorded a significant non-cash goodwill impairment charge and increased tax valuation allowances. Both are excluded from adjusted earnings. The impairment was triggered by the decline in the company's share price during the quarter and it reflects Europe's current challenges from an accounting perspective. These charges do not affect cash flow. operating plans or fit to win milestones. Our priority is to bring the same discipline and execution to Europe that have improved performance in the Americas while recognizing that progress is taking longer than expected in a tough macro environment. Regarding the balance sheet, leverage is up some given lower EBITDA. However, liquidity is very good at $1.5 billion. We have no maturities until 2028, and we have ample headroom on our senior security covenant. Let's turn to slide seven. Segment operating profit was $171 million compared to $225 million in the prior year, as strong performance in the Americas was more than offset by continued pressure in Europe. In the Americas, net sales were $949 million, up about 1%. Higher selling prices and favorable currency more than offset a 7% decline in volumes. Segment operating profit increased 22% to $165 million, and margins expanded by around 300 basis points to 17.4%. 4%. Higher net price, favorable FX and operating costs, net of a furnace event, more than offset lower volumes. This represents the highest second quarter profit in the Americas over the past 10 years and demonstrates the value of fit to win. In Europe, net sales were $704 million, down 5%, with shipments down 2% as due to the pandemic. disruption limited sales opportunities. Segment operating profit was $6 million compared to $90 million last year. declined primarily reflected unfavorable net price from competitive pressures and higher energy costs. Europe delivered solid gross fit to win benefits, but temporary operational disruption and inefficiencies prevented those benefits from translating into net savings. Let's turn to slide eight. We are revising our full year 2026 guidance to reflect the second quarter shortfall and a more measured pace of improvement in Europe. Please note that we have removed adjusted earnings guidance because the effective tax rate is highly sensitive to changes in operating earnings, particularly given the low level of anticipated earnings in Europe. We now expect adjusted EBITDA of $1.0 to $1.1 billion, with updated free cash flow and leverage guidance included on the chart. We continue to anticipate strong performance in America, with results expected to be up nearly 60% in 2026 versus 2024. As Gordon noted, lower or current year guidance is primarily different by three factors in Europe. Continued market challenges, including additional price pressure and higher energy costs related to the Middle East conflict. adjusted fit to win timing due to temporary operational disruptor and additional costs at a few specific plants. We believe the revised outlook better reflects current operating conditions and the environment we expect through the balance of the year. Importantly, we believe performance in Europe should improve sequentially over the second half. Let's turn to slide nine. We are also realigning our 2027 targets to reflect the same factors affecting our 2026 outlook. We now expect adjusted EBITDA of 1.2 to 1.3 billion dollars in 2027, reflecting a more gradual improvement path in Europe. From our revised 2026 guidance, 2027 should benefit from at least $150 million of additional fit to win savings. Potential upside could come from market improvement in Europe and energy price normalization following an eventual resolution of the Middle East conflict. Importantly, we remain committed to the original adjusted ETS. the EPA target of $1.45 billion. We continue to believe that target is achievable, but it will likely take longer than originally anticipated. With that, I'll turn it back to Gordon on slide 10. Gordon Greenfield Thanks, John. Before we close, I want to reinforce several key points. We are not satisfied with our performance. We understand that investors.

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will expect clear evidence of improvement. At the same time, the framework we laid out around fit to win, profitable growth, and strategic optionality remains the right path to create long-term value. In Horizon 1, fit to win is delivering meaningful savings and improving our competitive position. the Americas demonstrate the earnings potential of stronger execution. Europe is about a year behind the Americas on fit to win. Ultimately, we believe Europe should improve to mid-teen segment profit margins within the next two years. This should be achieved through initiating recovery of excess cost inflation, addressing temporary disruption and normalizing energy market and completing our fit to win implementation. In Horizon 2, improved competitiveness is supporting profitable growth with new business opportunities expected to build volume momentum through the second half of 2026 and into 2027. In horizon 3, we are evaluating strategic options to strengthen the portfolio, improve our position in the value chain and preserve flexibility for long-term value creation. In short, we are addressing near-term challenges with urgency while staying focused on the strategy we believe will create sustainable growth. sustainable long-term value. With that, let me conclude on the next slide. To close, second quarter results were below expectations, primarily due to Europe. We understand the drivers and are addressing them directly and with urgency. At the same time, the Americas performance highlights the earning potential of effectively executing our strategy. Demand remains soft, but volume trends improve through the quarter and we expect gradual improvement in the second half. to win continues to deliver meaningful value, even with near-term disruption. Most importantly, our strategy remains intact. We are recalibrating timing, not changing direction. Our focus is clear, restore performance in Europe, improve execution and create sustainable long-term value. Thank you for your time this morning. We will now take your questions.

Operator

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#11

We will now begin the question and answer session. Please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one to raise your hand. To withdraw your question, press star one again. We ask that you pick up your handset when asking a question to allow for optimum sound quality. If you are muted locally, please unmute your device. stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. The first question comes from the line of Gansham Punjabi with Baird.

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#12

Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Hi Gordon and John. This is William Cots on for Gansham. I think my my first question just what gives you confidence on 2027 plan? You know, obviously 2026 has shut out, shook out meaningfully below your initial expectations, so just some more color in 2027 would be great and then I'll follow up. Thanks.

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Yes, I'll take that first. And when we talk about moving from 26 to 27, first of all, we've obviously rebased 2026 for the factors that we talked about. As we look going forward, we are highly confident of the 150 million plus of fit to win benefits. We're going to, even in a disrupted environment, we're going to generate $200 million or more this year. So we're confident, especially as we get through that through the disruption elements and the benefit of executing and exiting from some one-time elements into the next year. Beyond that, we're really not making a lot of forward estimates about strong recovery. We still have included in there kind of a flattish volume environment. We still have the baseline of the Middle East conflict, sluggish demand, affordability issues, all things. You know, there are probably more upside opportunities with ultimately the resolution of the war and the normalization of the energy markets, as well as, you know, with a better background in that regard, in affordability elements, consumer consumption, and not to mention us putting into effect our Horizon 2. profitable growth and the forward opportunities that we have on a number of the new wins that we have in the new businesses that Gordon mentioned. So those underpin our view of 2027, which of course has been rebased from the original expectation. And just to build on that, William, we see what we can deliver in the Americas.

Unknown Speaker

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with the tight execution of the strategy and fit to win. As we've said on previous calls and here again today, Europe is about a year behind the fit to win implementation. And so we expect that to improve sequentially through the next four to six quarters. And that also is an underpinning of our thinking around our 2027 result.

Unknown Speaker

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#15

Okay, great. That's super helpful. Thank you. And then just one more on volume expectations for the back half of the year. How much would that be like contracted new business versus, you know, just the general expectation of a market recovery? I know you said June was flat, but, you know, if we could just hear that and maybe how July is shaking out too, that'd be great. Sure.

Unknown Speaker

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Well, as we've outlined, we rejigged and reconfigured our go-to-market approach in both the Americas and in Europe. And we're seeing the early benefits of that coming through. I think last time, or last outing we mentioned, we had picked up 15 pieces of new business that equated to about one, 1.5% of volume. We subsequently picked up more business that will start to flow in the back half of this year. and into next year, which represents about 2% of volume. So we're gaining traction. We're becoming more competitive in the market. you know, we, you know, when we look at it, we see it sequentially improving through this quarter and into the fourth quarter. So, you know, all the early signs are positive that we're becoming more competitive and we're translating that competitive into.

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into profitable volume growth. I'll add just a couple of data points on there, William. The new contracted business, as far as what we expect, it's going to ramp up in the second half of the year. It probably adds something like 1% to 1.5% annualized run rate in the back half of the year as we then build into 2027 when you see the full 2% being realized. So that comes as a as a tailwind. And then to your question on July, basically all of our markets are performing kind of in line with what we saw in June, net net in total. The one thing that we gotta say is that there's still a little, in one geography, we are still dealing with a little bit of transitional elements of one of the furnace events we had. So there was still a little bit of headway on volumes due to the ability to supply. But through July, we believe that we're out of that. And then going forward, we should see the trends fall through to the full market opportunity.

Operator

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#18

Okay, great, great. That's super helpful. Thanks, guys. Your next question is from Mike Roxland with Truist Securities.

Michael Roxland

analyst
#19

Go ahead, your line is now open. Yes, thank you, Gordon, John, Chris, for taking my questions. Good morning, Mark. Good morning. Just wanted to follow up to provide some more color on those operational efficiencies along with the two furnace events in Europe. More color around what they are, what disruptions were, when they started to occur, and what your plan has been to get them fixed and where that plan currently stands. Thank you. Yep.

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#20

So the events took place in Europe, one in France, one in the UK. One was a fire, one was a leak. And that caused us to short ship into the market and put extra pressure on the network in the context of a changing network that hadn't yet settled. And also in the context of increasing logistics costs. What have we done about it? We've got both local engineering and expert furnace engineers that were in place. supported by some outside expertise to fix those issues. We're confident that those issues are now fixed and those both those plants are are starting to resupply the market as you know, getting up to what their full potential supply should be as we work through July. supply. They were the main issues, but when you're changing the supply network, as we were with three plant closures in you know, in the interim did add pressure into the network at a time when, as I said, costs were rising, there was less available logistics capacity. That caused us to have to pay more for what was available. So that was, that really was the root cause of that. We did also, you know, experience kind of number of small one-time events around rail transport not being available in France and having to shift to road freight. That also caused us a bit of disruption and certainly put in a significant chunk of cost. Again, that's a once-off and we don't see that reoccurring.

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as we go through the back half of the year. You know, maybe just one other comment, Mike, on top of that, just to show, compare that to the Americas where we did have a furnace event and the segment was able to fully offset it and deliver. It just shows the resilience in the business that once you do get through all the restructuring and activities, and then you get the TOE the operations where you want it to be. We're confident that while this is a blip that occurred because of the combination of the furnace events and closing the three factories at one time, we believe that we'll get out of that into a much more stable environment.

Michael Roxland

analyst
#22

Got it. So to put a vote, I mean, you're past these events now, though. They're in the rearview mirror, everything's been corrected, and you should be operating better today than in 2Q? Yes, absolutely. We're past those events. The rest of the fleet in Europe is performing well, and we expect the...

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that performance to sequentially improve through the next four quarters as we embed the TOE, the total operating efficiency methodologies into the plant at the same level we have embedded them into the US. As I said, you know, Europe is about a year behind the implementation of Fit2Win. And, you know, we expect, you know, the catch-up to occur is occurring as we speak. Yes.

Michael Roxland

analyst
#24

Got it. And then just one quick follow-up. You mentioned, Gordon, that you don't believe that what you're seeing in Europe is structural. What gives you confidence that it's really not a structural issue in Europe? And what I'm trying to get at is when I look at some of your peers that recently reported, one of your peers reported close to a 30 percent EBITDA margin in the first half. So there obviously are benefits to be had in the European market. It seems like you guys are a little bit behind that, a little bit behind that. So what are you trying to do to maybe catch up from a portfolio perspective, from an earnings and market perspective to what some of your peers have been posting in terms of their earnings and their margins? Thank you.

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Okay. First of all, let me just give some context around Europe. It's a very large market, very attractive market, 22 million tons and over $2.5 billion of profit pool in the region. you know, our peers are, you know, running businesses that are not going through a restructuring as we are in in europe um I come back to our original thesis, the business was uncompetitive and we are going through the actions required to get this business more competitive in Europe. So we're in transition, right? and executing that. Yes, we've had a stumble, a chunk of it of our own making. We own that, we know how to fix it. We know what the issues are. We have the right resources in place. We've made the required changes of leadership and have no leadership in place with the skills that can address the, the supply chain network issues that we're facing. So we see ourselves being able to execute that in the months and quarters ahead to the standard that we've done it in the Americas. and we have the right resources and governance around that. We expect, you know, within two years to be back at kind of high teens margins. And, you know, that's assuming, you know, energy markets somewhat normalize. There's some, you know, demand coming back into the market in certain categories, but we don't need, nor do we expect, you know, huge lifts in demand. But we have a clear plan. our own, you know, our fit to win, running the operations and the supply chain in as fit a manner as we are now running it in the Americas. We've also upgraded substantially our energy procurement, our energy risk management and our energy usage. capabilities in all these plants. And we expect those benefits to flow through, you know, in the coming quarters. And to give you a data point on that, in terms of energy usage, we've put in a new system across all of the plants. And some of our plants in Europe are now generating, savings of anywhere between 5% and 7% year on year in energy usage. So there's a lot of good things happening in Europe. We're making a lot of progress in a lot of areas. But we did have this stumble that is sort of masking that. We feel we're working through that. By year end, we'll have settled the supply change significantly and we'll start to extract the full value of the restructuring and the capacity optimization. So, you know, we have a lot of data points we feel gives us confidence that we can execute in a way that delivers into the high teens over the next 18, 24 months.

Operator

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#26

Go ahead. Thank you. Your next question comes from Aaron Viswanathan with RBC Capital Markets. Hey, Aaron.

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Aaron. Great. Thanks for taking my question. I hope you guys are well. You know, I just wanted to ask about Europe. You know, and I think you went into the quarter expecting a slight improvement there, but then I think you were down slightly. So, what kind of drove that? Would you say that there's some structural weakness Do you think this is more transitory in nature? I know the affordability issues have continued to linger and, you know, the Obviously, we've had the conflict going on as well, but how do we kind of see volumes kind of improving? Is there anything else under your control, whether it be business wins or anything else that you could do to potentially drive some of that volume? And if it does not improve, what kind of footprint optimization actions would you be taking?.

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you know, be in a position to take. Thanks. Hey, Arun, this is John. I'll just kick that off. For clarity, during the quarter, we expected Europe's performance would be about $25 million better than where it was, okay? the majority, about 80% of that had to do with the operating disruption one way or another. The other, maybe $5 million was a little bit of extra pricing pressure. But keep in mind, as we indicated, our volumes are down 2%, but they were flat if it wasn't for the disruption. So we didn't really have a meaningful commercial difference in the environment. It was more of an operating element, but I'll turn it over to Gordon. Yes.

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So, as I said, large market, over 22 million tons and a very large profit pool. But one way to maybe look at Europe is, and this is broad strokes, but bear with me. If you look at Northern Europe, it tends to be spirits dominated. Yes. Spirits and food. If you look at kind of middle. Europe, so across northern France, Benelux, into Germany and Poland is very much beer and food. And then in southern Europe, much more wine dominated, obviously with some beer. What we're seeing is wine in all markets, not just in Europe, but across the world is under significant pressure. And we do think there are some structural issues in that category. We've taken, what we feel are appropriate network optimization actions and that to make sure that our footprint mirrors what we feel we can supply at an economic profit. you know, in spirits, I think we're, spirits generally are under pressure because the two largest markets, North America and China have been underperforming for some years now. We see over the next probably 12 months, not a huge change in that picture in terms of exports, particularly into the US or China. China, although we are and expect to see stocks decline in the US market and maybe some refill happening as we go through early, mid 2027. The bright side on spirits is travel retail continues to grow, tends to be more premium, maybe a bit less volume, but it is growing. Then if you look at Europe, kind of what I call middle Europe, you know, beer performs strongly, you know, is performing strongly, particularly premium beers, as is food. We see in all markets our food business growing quite strongly and it is now our second largest category with a strong economic profit. So as we look forward, we see pockets of growth that we can leverage. leverage and we've also tightened our network or restructuring is is is behind us in europe um And we see our platform probably moving into 95, 97 kind of capacity utilization as we move through the rest of the year and into 2027. Our go-to-market model that we've instituted is absolutely brilliant. results for us. We continually month on month see new business wins at margins that are attractive for us. So you put all that together, we have a lot of confidence in the medium long term market opportunities in Europe. We see our margins improving. We know how to do that. We've demonstrated that in the Americas. We actually have pockets of Europe where we're executing very well and we see the margins coming through, particularly in Southern Europe. So you put all that together, we're bullish on Europe over the medium, longer term. There's, we've got to execute more effectively on some of the basics around logistics and planning and get through this restructure and then continue to execute our fit to win and or go to market. So that's really how we're thinking about Europe. Still a very important market, very attractive market and a market we can do very well in the quarters ahead.

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Okay, thanks for that. And then just as a quick follow-up, so quick but uh i did want to ask about some broad strokes for 27 um i think you mentioned that not calling for a big recovery but how should we think about uh net price um and then you know obviously uh the incremental fit to win benefits as well uh and would there be any other you know large uh larger bucket items you can kind of help us with to frame where you can see 27 EBITDA land versus the original $1.45 billion guidance that you provided previously.

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Yes, this is John. I can give you a little bit more color in that regard. As we look to 2027 and the levers there, from a net price standpoint, at this point in time, we're thinking neutralish. So keep in mind, we've had a very large amount of inflation this year, and 55% of our business overall is covered under long-term agreements. So there'll be a PAF recovery. You know, it's typical in our business. There's a lag effect associated with that. So that will, you know, come through, even in a world where we just... current elevated energy prices, the TTF at 55 to 60, we believe that we would have a neutral, even maybe modestly positive net price as we look forward. That does not include any other actions that might occur. It doesn't include the potential of a resolution of the war, in which case then energy prices could go down and that could be a bigger tailwind. On a sales volume standpoint, we're penciling in a continued mutis environment, but maybe flat to up 1% given that we do have 2% volume growth coming through and will see you know that continues to build uh and and we will see what the net effect of that is overall and then you have your 150 million dollars worth of uh you know plus of fit to win benefits which are going to be substantially over they'll be scooted over to europe as we work through the the uh you know the disruption this year and we complete the program which is like we said is a little bit further along to go and over over europe those are the big pieces that kind of gets you to you know from your your midpoint of the current year to the to the entry point of our guidance range of the 1.2 next year with the upside being potential resolution of war and the and the tailwind there and and in evaluation of what happens more broadly in the European market if the market becomes more constructive.

Operator

operator
#32

Thanks, Michael. Your next question comes from George Staphos with Bank of America.

George Staphos

analyst
#33

go ahead your line is open hi everyone good morning uh thanks for the details So I wanted to dig into the operations a bit with Fit2Win and in particular Europe. So with Fit to Win, Gordon, you obviously made a lot of progress last year and the first portion of this year. Frankly, you made a lot of progress this year. but we've seen a bit more, you've acknowledged it, challenges in delivering as we've gotten into phase B. Does that have in any way from your vantage point reflect that it gets tougher and tougher to do the operational within Fit2Win, especially given the nature of making glass, given how fixed-close. how cost leveraged it is in some ways, how abusive the process of making glasses in the first place, you're pulling tons through a furnace. Is there anything in Fit2Win that you're finding it's maybe a little bit tougher given your past experiences to execute in making glass just given and how challenging manufacturing glass is in the first place. And then I had a quick follow on to that.

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#34

sure um yes let me um let me address that in two ways so if if i if i look at um you know the Americas, I think it's, You can see the results coming through. And I think we were about ahead. We kind of started the phase B in the Americas. And fundamentally, you're changing culture, you're changing culture and plants, and you're changing some processes. And with that comes some change challenges, but the process we have is it's pretty simple in many ways, but it requires a lot of discipline and it requires some change management. And I think we've executed that well in the Americas. You are right, George. I mean, glassmaking is pretty unforgiving. and the parameters need to be tightly controlled. And a miss on some of those parameters sometimes can throw you out for a week or two weeks. And then if you have a furnace event, it tends to unsettle the whole network because you've then got to produce in maybe plants that wouldn't normally produce a particular product and that causes some disruption, right? So that has unsettled us a bit this year and particularly in Europe. Europe was, you know, really the last... The last to go on the TOE disciplines, we're still betting them in. and the disruptions did have an impact on, well, the disruptions were probably in two plants, it probably impacted six. You're also kind of redirecting expert resources to away from maybe their job and there's some firefighting going on. So, truth be told, that was part of the story of the first half. That notwithstanding, I would say in the vast majority of the plants, so we have what, 60 facilities, I would say in 50, 50, 52 of them, we see consistent improvement around and TOE, you know, availability increasing, quality improving, speed of lines improving. So we are making improvements. And remember, some of our plants were already very high performing. So in the high performing plants, there's probably a chunk less to improve that notwithstanding. I think weighted average, we are seeing significant improvements across the across the fleet. And what happens is, and I think I lay this out at IDEA, you know, these kinds of transformations are not linear and you'll always get some sort of bump along the way. But what I've found in my experience is once you get through that, the kind of, you know, the system kind of reenergize itself and you start to hit those higher levels of performance. And we certainly have enough data points around, um, those three elements, availability, quality, speed, and energy reduction to feel very confident that we are going to hit at least 650 million. you know, and we'll hit higher maybe over a bit longer timeframe. So I'm not worried about that, if I could put it that way. I'm frustrated that we've had these stumbles particularly in Europe, right in the middle of when we were reconfiguring the network to have two plants go down for a period. That's frustrating. That's held us back. But we own it, we know what went wrong, we know what to fix it, we have the right resources on it. And let me tell you, we'll be quite maniacal about getting the performance back to where it needs to be.

George Staphos

analyst
#35

I appreciate the thoughts on that, Gordon.

Christopher Manuel

executive
#36

What's that? MR. They're a well-taken point. It's a well-taken question.

George Staphos

analyst
#37

No, we appreciate it. Had a follow-on related. I think I know where you'll go with this, but nonetheless, I do want to ask the question. So traditionally glassmaking. if you ran 92, 93% utilization rates, those were very, very good. when you ran over 95%, you, the view was that you would stress the furnaces, you would pull too quickly. Is any of that filtering into what we've seen or not? I know you're trying to change the paradigm in glass, and so maybe not. And as we think about Europe and some of the changes in the organization that we've seen over there, has that been because of alignment on the direction and the strategy.

Unknown Speaker

unknown
#38

or just execution and going out of parameters in terms of the execution? Thanks and good luck in quarter. Right, so two things. I'll take the second piece first, if you don't mind. I think one of the things that became apparent as we moved through the second quarter is the extent to which we needed to work cross-functionally. And I did flag up on the idea that, you know, a goal was to get this business out of silos and working much more cross-functionally. And we've made huge progress on that, but I don't think we made enough progress on that in Europe, right? And we've now made changes in leadership in terms of driving a much more integrated cross functional within the region, but also within the expert resources available at the global level to get them in as part of the team in a much more integrated way. And already in the last kind of six weeks, we see that working. much more effectively. You know, the incidents we had that I called out both and France, the UK and indeed the US is, you know, is probably a result of what we would in the industry call over pulling on the furnace over years. And what we've done in our new system of TOE is, We have strict pull rates depending on the kind of furnace. And part of TOE is to make sure that we do not over pull and therefore damage or burn down these furnaces more quickly than they should be. And that's a very rigorous discipline and that's looked at every day. day now, whereas in the past, I think that was uncontrolled and you had plants over pulling. and therefore burning down the furnaces more quickly, or indeed under-pulling and using way too much energy. And we have tremendous visibility on that on a daily basis. That's looked at on shift by the day at the plant manager level. And then that rolls up through the through the organization. into the value office to make sure that we're within the parameters that these facilities should be run at. So as we look forward, there then you would expect over time to have far fewer of these events. The other thing I would say is, as we, you know, One question you ask is, is Fit2Win the cause of some of these breakdowns? And again, the answer is absolutely no, because what we've done at Fit2Win is strip out cost and waste, and we've actually upped our reinvestment in maintenance and engineering across the fleet over the last two years. and our engineering and maintenance has actually, you know, increased slightly on a per ton basis. So this is really cultural change, process change that we're betting in. We have huge support from the plants on TOE. and huge support from people on the line. They see their lives getting easier in managing these plants. So I think we're in a good place. We stumbled in Europe, no question about that. We own that. We know what went wrong. We know what the root causes are. We're all over the root causes and we're fixing it. So I expect that performance, the operational performance, to continue to improve in the Americas. And I expect it to pick up a much faster pace in the next two to four quarters in Europe.

Christopher Manuel

executive
#39

MR PALLADINO Thank you very much, Gordon. MR PALLADINO Thanks, George.

Operator

operator
#40

Your next question is from Anthony Pantinare with Citi. Hey Anthony.

Unknown Speaker

unknown
#41

Please go ahead, your line is open. Hey, good morning. This is actually Brian Bergmeier on for Anthony. Thanks for taking the question. Just on the fit to win savings, I know you're looking for another 120 million in the back half. I was just curious, you know maybe how much of that is sort of already locked in based on actions you've already taken in the first half and then as we start to think about 2027 you know you're looking for another 150 million just sort of the same question um is it possible to say how much could be sort of locked down by the end of the year and would just be maybe like a rollover.

Unknown Speaker

unknown
#42

benefit. Yes. So so anything we publish and, you know, here and anything that's that's part of our, you know, our our our value office program here is we have, we have, um, not only a clear target, but we have clear activities. around timing, proper project management and resources around that. So I would say that as a governance piece. So none of this is kind of aspirational and none of it is, you know, we have a number, but we don't know how to get there. OK, we do have further ideas on how to add more value. We just haven't figured that out yet. out the path on some of those above the 150 for next year. But everything you're seeing and everything we're published there, they're deliberate programs and actions taking place day in, day out to deliver on that. So that's by way of process. John? Yes, I would add on that.

Unknown Speaker

unknown
#43

just looking at specifically at the numbers here, you're right, we have about 115, $120 million in the back half, just under half of that is pretty much already locked and loaded because we've done the restructuring, we've done the SG&A actions by and large, things like that. The remaining component has to do with what we call more on that phase B, more of this improving the operations, addressing the things that we're talking about in Europe, as well as moving forward some of those programs around energy usage that Gordon was talking about and other factors. So, yes, so going in the next year too, in the 150, there's a decent number, I don't have a specific number, I would say probably a third of it off top my head is probably locked and loaded because it's just a carry-on effect the annuals actually annualization effect of things that are already done and the remaining component has to do with with more operational improvement again focus more on europe yes.

Unknown Speaker

unknown
#44

But the programs are set by plant, by supply chain. So it's a function of executing the month by month.

Unknown Speaker

unknown
#45

Got it. Got it. Thanks for that. And then just one follow-up. You know, it seems like South America, Brazil did pretty well in the quarter. Just kind of curious your assumptions there for the second half. You know, I guess some other beverage packagers maybe sound a little conservative in the second half. So maybe just curious how much of that kind of volume momentum could carry.

Unknown Speaker

unknown
#46

through thanks i'll turn it over yes and brian is that in reference to to latin america or overall South America and Brazil specifically. Thanks. You know, our business is performing, you know, exceptionally well in Brazil and in the Andean region and indeed Mexico, albeit of lower volumes. The teams there are executing or fit to win extremely well, executing or go to market extremely well. And we're picking up new business and, you know, executing the strategy as it should be. So we expect that performance to continue to the end of the year and well into next year. So, yes, demand is good for us. You know, if I give you a view, we're up in spirits in Brazil, we're up in food, we're up in RTDs. And when I say we're up, we're growing ahead of the market. And then we're growing at market in beer. you know, in Brazil. So I see that market, you know, continuing to perform strongly. And then in our Andean business, you know, we're growing ahead of the market in beer, ahead of the market in spirits, ahead of the market in wine, ahead of the market in food, the market in RTDs and growing at market in food. So very strong performance there. In Mexico, volumes are a bit off due to tequila exports being down and Mexican beer imports into the US. But our team, they're executing fit to win exceptionally well and delivering very strong financial performance. So overall, we're very happy with how our Latin American business is performing, and we expect that performance to continue.

Operator

operator
#47

There are no further questions at this time. I will now turn the call back to Chris Manuel for the closing remarks.

Christopher Manuel

executive
#48

Thank you. That concludes our earnings call. Please note our third quarter call is scheduled for Wednesday, October 28, 2026. And remember, make it a memorable moment by choosing safe, sustainable glass. Thank you.

Operator

operator
#49

This concludes today's call. Thank you for attending. You may now disconnect. This live transcript is auto-generated without human intervention or review. [Call has ended.]

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