Oberoi Realty Limited (OBEROIRLTY) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
July 20, 2026
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Unknown Analyst
analystNo, I broadly got it. I just wanted to understand if a very high level of sales that we are achieving in FY will be maintained and can be done in terms of execution, in terms of construction and so on? Or there are some constraints.
Vikas Oberoi
executiveNo. In fact, Praveen, we believe that we have cracked the code as far as volume and quality is concerned. So as a company, we feel we can build more and we can build better than what we did. So the way we built our entire team of contractors will be outsourced, is really solid. And so we are very ready to be doing volume and at a very good quality.
Operator
operatorThe next question comes from the line of Punit Gulati with HSBC Bank.
Puneet Gulati
analystCongrats on a fantastic launch in Gurugram. My first question is with respect to the litigation, has now emerged. What is the progress there? And are you seeing any signs of customers asking for their money back as yet?
Vikas Oberoi
executiveSo again, I don't want to talk about the litigation because it's prejudice. But there is absolutely no we have customers who refused to take a refund of the deposit that they've given deposit -- UI deposit that they've given us. they want to wait if there's any cancellation [ fees ] give us. And also here, we are pushing them to take their monies back because we have no flats to offer, but people on the contrary are waiting. So very humbling, very, I would say, very thankful to God with the way all this has panned out.
Puneet Gulati
analystThat's very nice to hear. Secondly, if you can talk a bit about where are you in terms of approvals for others than that? And what should 1 presume as a potential time line of launch?
Vikas Oberoi
executiveSo [indiscernible] continues to be -- we are hoping our Q3 launch. We had last time said it will be anywhere between Q2, Q3. We are hoping for a Q3 launch. We so wanted even 360 North to be the Q1 launch we missed them by a few days. So given how our industry works, I always keep a cushion of a quarter here and there, but it looks like Q3 is when we will launch Adarsh Nagar.
Puneet Gulati
analystSo what approvals still to take from your perspective?
Vikas Oberoi
executiveSome -- like how we want to build as build approvals, typical IOD and all of that.
Puneet Gulati
analystOkay. And lastly on Ritz-Carlton, what's the time line for that?
Vikas Oberoi
executiveSo I think we said that either within the end of this financial year, we should be ready. I would say 80%, 90% of interior work is done. And it's just the last mile that we are finishing.
Operator
operatorThe next question comes from the line of Gaurav Khandelwal with JPMorgan.
Gaurav Khandelwal
analystMost of my questions are answered. I just wanted to check 1 thing on the cash flow statement. So the new disclosure is really helpful. But for the INR 786 crores, which we've paid towards upcoming development properties, are these mostly for 360 North? And also for context, can you tell us what was the Q-o-Q and Y-o-Y number?
Vikas Oberoi
executiveGaurav, I think I'll let Saumil answer this.
Saumil Daru
executiveSo as far as NCR is concerned, out of the 786 only, it was only about close to 200 that related to NCR, the balance in [indiscernible] the Q-o-Q and Y-o-Y number, we can work on that and we can discuss that with people separately. But as far as NCR is concerned, that's only 200 out of the 800.
Gaurav Khandelwal
analystGot it. And just another question. When I look at the residential operating margins for this quarter, that's closer to 51%, 52% compared to 55% in the last 3 quarters. So what is driving the lower margin? Is this cost impact due to higher commodity prices? Or what is it that is driving a lower margin?
Saumil Daru
executiveSo typically, what happens, Gaurav is my overall margin will always depend on what the overall mix of the projects that are coming in through revrec. So -- and not all projects as you would appreciate, work at the same margin. So they are all high margins, but not everybody works at the same margin. So for example, if I have anything from 360 West coming in, then that comes in from with really good number, with a really good margin. So it all depends on which projects are there within that. Some will be less or some will be higher. So we have -- we have project margins ranging from about 43%, 44% to 65-odd percent. So depending on the mix, which comes in, that's where that number goes up or down. Nothing extra in terms of cost or on account of cost impact or anything because those budgets are always there. So you will see we use estimates for the purposes of our percentage accounting method. So those costs are always kind of -- you have contingencies which are built into the budget. So those don't really impact as much.
Gaurav Khandelwal
analystGot it. So it's purely a function of sales mix then in that case?
Vikas Oberoi
executiveCorrect. Correct.
Operator
operatorThe next question comes from the line of Pritesh Seth with Axis Capital.
Unknown Analyst
analystLastly, on NCR. Firstly, in terms of the size of the project, I think when we announced, we announced that the potential to be 2.6 million square feet on carpet area. Right now, we have sold 1.4 approx, does the size remain same, 2.6, Or has there been any change since this was acquired 2 years back -- and is all these area RERA approved or some of this area will also come from the higher floors, which we are planning to build there?
Vikas Oberoi
executiveCorrect. You're very right. In fact, you have also answered that in your own question. If you -- even prior to this, somebody asked about a phase 2, so there is obviously going to be a Phase 2 for this and that is the balance area. So that will come in later. In the current phase, as much as we had gotten RERA approval for, we launched, and when we get the approval for the balance space, we will bring that on.
Unknown Analyst
analystOkay. Okay. And the size remains 2.6 million square feet on carpets?
Vikas Oberoi
executiveCorrect.
Unknown Analyst
analystOkay. Okay. Fair enough. And some of the sales were also for older IO customers, how would be the -- I mean what would be the cash flows that we would be getting from them?
Vikas Oberoi
executiveNo, no, no. So. Pritesh, the 2.6 million basically is the net effective area available to us. This does not cover the [indiscernible] so even the number which we announced of 1.4 million, that does not cover the IO customer.
Unknown Analyst
analystOkay. Okay. Fair enough. Fair enough. Fair enough. And in terms of the pipeline now, sustaining this INR 8,000 crores, obviously, we have a balance phase here, but Otherwise, how should we think about the future pipeline? Have you already started evaluating proposals now that we have almost sold half of the project and probably you would need pipeline for sustaining the sales in future. So how should we think about business development in NCR from year on? Would it be this year or probably next year, we'll probably close something in NCR?
Vikas Oberoi
executiveSo Pritesh, business development. This is Vikas, business development for us is every day job. And we are what we really did back then, of course, again, like I say, that it was not expected. But all we want to tell is that we also know how to play this volume game, and we know how to build in quantity and build quality as well. So obviously, we've enjoyed this ride, and we will continue to do that. for us, like I said, business development on everyday job, and you'll see similar action in many other projects of us.
Operator
operatorThe next question comes from the line of Akash Gupta with Nomura Holdings.
Akash Gupta
analystCongratulations on great performance for 360 north. My question was on the launch pipeline that we have for the balance part of the year. in addition to Adarsh Nagar, how are we thinking about the other projects in terms of launches and approvals for the balance part of the year?
Vikas Oberoi
executiveSo again, we spoke about all projects. Today, we have a release, which is on [indiscernible] . We'll be launching that. We have 2 towers, 1 each in Okan Road and coal shade which we will launch within this year itself, then we have a project in Alibaba that we will launch. So a lot in the pipeline, I mean, again, yes.
Akash Gupta
analystUnderstood. My second question is on the the stake has been slowing down since the past 3 quarters. I mean, we sold 4 -- 4 units in the second quarter FY '26. Now we're down to 1 unit. And we are also bringing in new [indiscernible] inventory this year. So how should we think about the offtake in 360 Wes? And by when are we planning to consummate the entire inventory?
Vikas Oberoi
executiveSo again, a lot of resale has happened rather I wouldn't call it [indiscernible] sales by our while and 1 partner in 360 West. So the flats are selling. It's just that like now we are the only ones left with inventory. So you will see some momentum there as
Akash Gupta
analystUnderstood. And then just a final question on the revenue recognition on the residential front. It's slightly lower than the past 3 quarters, roughly 8.8 billion versus the last 3 quarter rate of 14 billion to 13 billion. Can I know like what's the reason behind the drop in 1Q FY.
Saumil Daru
executiveSo it depends on 2 things. So for example, where we are selling finished units like in the case of 360 or in the case of Mulund, there the revenue recognition will happen once the final payments from the customers are received and the position is handed over. As far as the other projects are concerned, there the revenue recognition happens on the basis of percentage of work done. So that's the only dichotomy, which is there. So at times, for example, in Mulund, if somebody pays you on fifth of July and sort of 30th of June, then that recognition gets deferred to the next quarter. So it's really a question of how that -- basically, the order book is there. The only thing is how it flows through the P&L. That's all.
Operator
operatorThe next question comes from the line of Rahul Jain with Elara Capital.
Unknown Analyst
analystJust a quick clarification on 360 north. The gross bookings of 80 billion plus I mean, all the allotments relate to these bookings are done? Or are there any pending allotments that are there?
Saumil Daru
executiveIn the sense of allotment or, I mean... -- allocation, all -- Yes, all done.
Unknown Analyst
analystOkay. Okay. So it's completely impressed from the court roading
Saumil Daru
executiveYes, yes.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] The next question comes from the line of Karan Khanna with Ambit Capital.
Karan Khanna
analystThanks, Vikas. So on my side, firstly, given the success that you've seen in Gurugram, and in a recent interview, you also mentioned you would like Gurugram to become a bigger market than Mumbai. Given that context, what kind of discussions are you having with landowners in the market in terms of BD? And perhaps what kind of partnerships are you evaluating in the market? And if you can talk a bit about how are you looking at the opportunities in Delhi and Noida as well and price points or segment that you would like to operate into in the entire NCR market over the long term.
Vikas Oberoi
executiveSo Karan, like I said earlier, that business development is literally an everyday job for us. Now our focus has increased, and we have now started including NCR, both Noida and Gurgaon for that. We continue to get offers but we are mindful on what we want to do, how we want to do for us, land, location, everything is really important. And I can only answer it in this many words -- can't tell you specifically what BD project we are pursuing, we do it all the time. And you hear over time. In terms of markets, we work on -- we work in a market like Thane where sale prices are anywhere between 20,000 and 25,000 on [indiscernible] . So we are happy to work within those markets. If you have a market like that, we want to ensure that these are growing markets. And there's a large enough land parcel for us to monetize over time. And that's exactly what we will do when we go to either Noida or Gurgaon. And what I like about that market and what prompted me to say that was that I feel that, that market is both width and depth, and we really want to clear that market. That's about it.
Karan Khanna
analystSure. And then secondly, on the price hikes, can you talk about the quantum of price hike that you have taken in the past few months to absorb any inflationary impact owing to the imposed cost inflation? And how is the absorption of the price hikes in the market? And a follow-up, if you look at Eternia, where your realizations have actually crossed Enigma during the quarter. So given that you have more launches planned in Mulund what kind of price points are you looking at in terms of future launches in this market?
Vikas Oberoi
executiveSo Karan, our strategy is always to be proactive when it comes to pricing, if you see what we've done in both Goregaon and [indiscernible] , we increased our price -- and in fact, I must say that the markets have helped us. All the apartments that are being resold in Borivali and [indiscernible] continue to sell at higher prices, buildings that are being complete are actually setting new benchmarks. So I must say that my customers know how to sell my apartment better than I do because they literally lead the price increase. And so for us, it's not like we wait for any external factor we ensure that there's a constant price hike, and that's why there's no -- like no knee-jerk reaction on increasing a price just because external factors are not favorable or anything like that. So it's all planned. We always have contingency also planned. We have price increase plans and we exactly know when to increase the price, all of that. So we do that.
Operator
operatorThe next question comes from the line of Harsh Pathak with Motilal Oswal Financial Services.
Harsh Pathak
analystSo first of all, many congratulations on the NCR performance. So my first question is on the launch pipeline. Vikas just mentioned that we have the Pedro project, the new phases at both the Thane projects the Alibagh and I think [indiscernible] also in the pipeline. So which of these projects will come up in FY '27 which would get launched in FY '28. And is there a possibility that this minimal lifestyle project in model will get launched in the FY '28 pipeline as well?
Vikas Oberoi
executiveThe projects that I named all of them are there's a good possibility that we might bring in Mulund also and within the '27 because now we don't have any project in [indiscernible] other than these 2 that are continuing to sell and they are ready. So we are ready as far as designs are concerned. We are already on an approval stage. So even if let's say we get our approvals within the next 3 or 4 months, we can still look at a launch in the last quarter. So we play that out. But we have enough in more happening in '27, not thought of '28 as yet or at least don't want to announce 28, it's too far fixed.
Harsh Pathak
analystUnderstood. And regarding the NCR balance inventory, I think in 1 of the media interviews, you mentioned that INR 16,000 crores is the total of the project. So are we thinking to launch the entire inventory in 1 go next year or maybe we might launch in a staggered manner
Saumil Daru
executiveI really hope you are right in 16,000, but I mentioned 14. I'll still try to get 16 now that you've told me -- set a new target for us. Now on a serious note, Sorry, what exactly was your question? I got a little fluxed in your 16,000 versus my 14,000.
Harsh Pathak
analystYes. So my question was, are we thinking to launch the entire balance inventory in 1 go next year? Or we would be doing in more staggered manner over the next 2, 3 years?
Vikas Oberoi
executiveHonestly, we have not thought we will think through and we'll see how we play that out. We've really not thought through. It will depend on multiple factors where are we in terms of our construction, what fees are we? Our first objective is to get the show apartment ready. We know we are doing something really special once that apartment is ready, I'm sure people will appreciate what we've done. And we look at that reaction and then decide. But it's really -- it's there in the offering for the next year for sure. How much, what price, I can't say that today.
Operator
operatorThe next question comes from the line of Abhishek Lodha with anti Stock Broking.
Unknown Analyst
analystJust 1 question. So basically, we kept on [indiscernible] about the execution challenges, right? And now we are talking about value volumes. So how we are planning about the execution, the contractor side, the labor side or -- so that's what I think I want to understand.
Vikas Oberoi
executiveSo like I've been telling people that we believe that we now have crack the code as far as execution is concerned, we can build volume with quality -- and that's exactly what we intend to do. We have our systems in place. We've been in the business for too long now, and we know how to build quality. -- and at a decent speed, and this is what we've been working on. If you really see, we are probably amongst the few developers who are, as we speak, constructing almost 18 towers, which are anywhere between INR 60 crores and INR 65 crores, so at various levels of construction. So again, we already are doing volume. And now it's just a case of replicating. We have an excellent team in place. We have our external partners. And that's it. So we are at that stage today. I would say we've hit some sort of a tipping point where we can now really go into our next phase of expansion. And again, our brand is helping us. We are able to easily the way we were received in NCR. I feel confident now that Yes.
Unknown Analyst
analystJust 1 question Saumil. On our Sky City Mall, right? So occupancy has increased, right? And I think the revenue has not been in sync with that. So anything to read on that?
Saumil Daru
executiveNo. So what had happened was in Q4 of last year, there was a lot of true-up which we did for the -- for all the retailers who had coming in since launch. So that is why there was a little bit of a bump up in that quarter because of that. And that is why that number, despite a lower occupancy might look to be higher than what the revenue for this quarter was. But yes, I don't want to read anything more than that. So -- that would have been a onetime thing, which has played out. From your onwards, I think you can consider this as a base. Even this, I will not consider that as a base because what happens is when we say this is the occupancy for the quarter, this is typically the occupancy at the end -- there are many retailers who -- some -- for all the new things which have started during the quarter, some will be for 3 months, some will be for 2 months, some will be for 1 month. So if you look at our numbers for commerce on or you look at our numbers for overall, which is a more comparable asset, there, they don't move around as much. So that's where once you hit steady state, then it works slightly differently. So maybe give it a few more quarters for them all to reach steady state, then I think then you will get a fair estimate of how much that mall will make every quarter
Operator
operatorLadies and gentlemen, we would take that as the last question for today. I now like to hand the conference over to Mr. Oberoi for the closing remarks.
Vikas Oberoi
executiveThank you all for taking time to take this call. We look forward to hearing from you on an ongoing basis please feel free to reach out to us or our Investor Relations team as and when you have any questions. Thank you again. Thank you all for your continued support.
Operator
operatorThank you, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, on behalf of Oberoi Realty, that concludes this conference call. Thank you for joining us, and you may now disconnect your lines.
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