OMRON Corporation (6645) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
March 9, 2022
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Tsutomu Igaki
executiveLadies and gentlemen, thank you for waiting. We would now like to start OMRON's long-term vision medium-term management plan investor briefing. Presentation materials will be used today, which are now available on our website. Please download the presentation accordingly. Today with us from the company are President and CEO, Yoshihito Yamada.
Yoshihito Yamada
executiveHello. I'm Yamada.
Tsutomu Igaki
executiveCFO and Senior General Manager, Global Strategy HQ, Koji Nitto.
Koji Nitto
executiveHello. This is Nitto.
Tsutomu Igaki
executiveGeneral Manager, Corporate Planning Department, Global Strategy HQ, Seiji Takeda.
Seiji Takeda
executiveI'm Takeda.
Tsutomu Igaki
executiveAnd I'll be moderating the session. I am Tsutomu Igaki, Senior General Manager from the Global Investor and Brand Communications HQ. Regarding the agenda for today, first, Mr. Yamada will deliver a presentation. Then we will move on to Q&A. We will first take questions from investors and analysts, followed by the press. We plan to end by 11:30 a.m. Japan time. But depending on the number of questions, we may exceed the scheduled time. Please also be reminded that today's video briefing will be available online at a later date, including the Q&A session. Now without further ado, I would like to hand over to Mr. Yamada.
Yoshihito Yamada
executiveGood morning, everyone. My name is Yamada, President. Thank you very much for joining us today for this investor briefing on long-term group vision SF2030 medium-term management plan SF first stage. Following the regular briefing format, first, I deliver a presentation, followed by a Q&A session. As long as time allows, we would like to take as many questions as possible from you. Thank you. First, this long-term vision has 3 characteristics: first, OMRON has made it clear to transform itself to solution type company, recapturing social change and customer issues, not from physical product perspective, but from a service perspective. Second, we developed a business strategy with clear growth areas, primarily for IAB and HCB. Thirdly, we've incorporated both economic values and social values in our vision. Our vision is to be creative together with all the stakeholders, including employees, customers, partners, investors and local communities. Now let us move on to the main part of the presentation. Starting with the review for the previous long-term vision, VG2020. Please look at Page 2. In 2011, we launched VG2020 with the vision and goal shown here. Next page, please. To achieve these goals, we have been focused on 5 initiatives. From next page, I will review each one of them. First, improvement of profitability. Please look at the pie chart on the left-hand side. I'll explain about portfolio evolution. Through thorough portfolio management based on ROIC and concentrated investment on IAB and HCB, the competition ratio of the 2 businesses is expected to be 75% in FY '21, a significant increase from 54% in FY 2011. Next, key financial indicators. Please look at the right-hand side. The GP margin, which we have been focused as indicator that show improvement of earnings power, increased from 36.8% to 45.7% or up 8.9 points. To its right, ROIC, it increased from 4.8% to more than 9% or up 4.2 points. As bottom section shows, operating income amount is JPY 88 billion, growing at CAGR of 8.2%. OPM increased from 6.5% to 11.6% or up 5.1 points. In this current year, we expect to achieve record high operating income. OMRON's earnings power has steadily enhanced over the 10 years. The second initiative is realization of self-sustaining growth. Please look at Page 5. This graph shows the sales trend over the latest 11 years. As the graph shows, toward JPY 1 trillion of net sales, which is [ few years ] ago, OMRON had been growing almost as planned up until fiscal year 2017. But from the second half of fiscal 2018, impacted by U.S.-China trade friction, pandemic and changing economic environment, sales started to decline. Also, disposal of auto parts business and winding down of the Backlight Business for optimization of business portfolio decreased sales. In fiscal year 2021, sales is on a steady and recovery trend, but we could not achieve JPY 1 trillion goal. We are still on the way to achieve self-sustaining growth against headwind, including a changing business environment. Please look at Page 6. The third initiative is demonstration of resilience to change. Please look at the left-hand side. During the VG period, in order to avoid geopolitical risk and its impact, we established a multi-location production system, and we also ensured business continuity by utilizing digital technology, including remote working amid the pandemic. During the pandemic, as the bar graph on the right hand shows, we could achieve operating profit increase for 2 consecutive years. I believe that this is because we quickly demonstrated resilience. Page 7. The fourth one is implementation of sustainability management. As you can see, we could also greatly evolve sustainability initiatives. I would like to talk about 3 examples here. First, ratio of local staff in key overseas positions. More than half of the important overseas positions used to be occupied by the Japanese. But as a result of localization, we could increase ratio of local staff in key overseas positions from 31% in 2011 to 75% in 2020. Next, percentage of employees with disability. It improved from 2.4% in fiscal 2014 to 3% or up 0.6 points. This number is higher than the statutory employment rate of 2.2% from 2018 to February 2021. Lastly, reduction of GHG emission. By fully utilizing OMRON's energy-saving technology on our sites, the emission was reduced by 50% versus fiscal year 2016, exceeding greatly the target. Please look at Page 8. Lastly, practice of OMRON principles, enhancement of corporate governance and enhancement of integrated risk management. In 2015, we revised OMRON's principles, and we have been spreading empathy for OMRON principles through TOGA. As a result, OMRON principles are now implemented by employees globally. We also established the OMRON corporate governance policy and global integrated risk management, evolving the group's framework to a stronger one. As a result of these activities, OMRON has been highly evaluated externally. Please look at Page 9. Through VG period, we reinforced our sustainability initiatives in addition to financial values. We were awarded or selected for global indexes, including DJSI World, highly evaluated externally as global top-class entity. Please look at Page 10. As a result, OMRON's corporate value, as you can see here, grew about four-fold over the past 11 years. So during VG period, we could make great achievements, but at the same time, we are seeing some challenges. We have summarized achievements and challenges during the VG period on Page 11. So I have covered achievements, and on the left-hand side of the slide, we have summarized them. Please look at the right-hand side. Of course, we have some challenges, namely further improvement of resilience to change, the realization of self-sustaining growth and the further evolution of corporate management. Earlier, I said the resilience to change has improved, but we are aware that the procurement of competitions is left as a big challenge. Due to Russian invasion in Ukraine, the international situation is becoming even more uncertain. So it is important to enhance more than ever our power to detect changes and reveal the value chain, including supply chain. Even under very uncertain operating business environment to realize sustaining self-sustaining growth, it is necessary that we need the growth through new value creation, grasping ever increasing business opportunities and some occasional growth through M&A. It is important to promote at the same time the corporate management, which underpins such growth. At the same time, we need to promote diversity and inclusion and building of DX platform based on such review that we created long-term vision. Please look at Page 12. Here, we will explain about fundamental purpose, a changing society towards 2030, vision statement and creating social value. In creating this long-term vision, we asked ourselves, again, what is OMRON's fundamental purpose of existence. Looking back our history, since its foundation in 1933, OMRON has been solving many social issues. On this slide, we are showing some solutions and product examples, which represent our history. For example, we launched traffic control system in 1964 and automated ticket gates at stations in 1967. More recently, wearable BPM, robotics-integrated controller has been launched. Each one of them is globally first innovation that OMRON created. By grasping social needs before anyone does and by solving social issues through automation, OMRON has been contributing to create safe, secure and pleasant society. By looking back at our history, we see better fundamental purpose of existence of OMRON. Our fundamental purpose of existence is continue to contribute to society through the creation of social values. That will never change. So in what way will the society change toward 2030? According to the SINIC theory, which we use as our management compass, the next decade is positioned as a period of optimization before moving toward an autonomous society. The optimization society is an era of change to a new society and economy. The new society that will come after overcoming the conflicts and changes that occur during this transition period is an autonomous society. The current era is in the middle of an optimization society between what SINIC theory calls an industrial society and an autonomous society. We are indeed in a period of much turmoil and conflict, and we're in transition to a new society and economy based on growth through the pursuit of global sustainability. The speed of this transition is accelerating, triggered by COVID-19. The clash between old and new values has created a strain in the social and economic system and a series of social issues have emerged one after another. In other words, there are abundant opportunities to create social needs. The next decade will be a period of great opportunity for OMRON to demonstrate its reason to exist and to achieve dramatic advances in growth. OMRON will seize this opportunity to achieve sustainable growth. We have established a long-term vision based on OMRON's reason to exist and the changes that will take place over the next 10 years. Our new long-term vision is Shaping the Future 2030, continue to create innovation driven by social needs with automation, which empowers people. This vision is based on the belief that all OMRON Group employees will put our corporate philosophy into practice and work together with stakeholders to create a sustainable society through sensing and control plus think technologies. We believe that this will maximize OMRON's corporate value as a result. What then is automation, which empowers people? Please turn to the next slide. OMRON divides automation into 3 types according to the relationship between people and machines. First is the stop at the bottom, which says replacement. This is automation in which machines take over human tasks. It's the level of so-called machine automation. Next is collaboration, where machines work together with people. With the advent of collaborative robots that can work together with humans, this collaborative automation is now increasingly being used. Finally, the highest level, harmonization is automation in which machines bring out human qualities. Machines adapt to people and promote autonomy. OMRON's technological icon, the table tennis robot, FORPHEUS, is at this very level. Here's a video about FORPHEUS that I'd like to share with you now. Please take a look. OMRON's table tennis robot, FORPHEUS, hits the ball back by adapting to the players' skill. It's an extension of automation. It does more than just hit the ball back, it can gradually improve the player's skill and motivate them to have fun. In the future, we intend to apply this type of automation in which a machine accompanies a person to maximize human potential to the manufacturing floor as well. We call the step of replacement, collaboration and harmonization, the expansion of automation. OMRON defines this automation that brings out the maximum potential of people as automation, which empowers people and is committed to solving social issues through its use. So what are the social issues that OMRON sees and creating social needs? To create social value, we have set 3 social challenges: the first is to contribute to achieving carbon neutrality, the second is to contribute to the realization of a digital society, and the third is to contribute to the extension of healthy life expectancy. These are defined from the perspective of having a large social impact and utilizing OMRON's strength in automation, customer assets and business assets. To solve these 3 social challenges, we have established 4 domains. They are industrial automation, health care solutions, social solutions and device and module solutions. We will continue to create social value in these 4 domains. One by one, we have prepared videos that we like to share with you. The first one is for industrial automation. In the industrial automation domain, we will contribute to the advancement of manufacturing that will support a sustainable society. OMRON has a history of bringing about innovation and manufacturing technology, easing labor shortages and enhancing productivity in various industries by taking an innovative automation approach and creating applications through joint development with customers. Going forward, we will evolve the innovative automation approach with the aim of building a production floor that shapes a sustainable future, where both harmony with the global environment and worker satisfaction are achieved. To this end, we will strive to achieve 3 things: the first is to maximize productivity and energy efficiency, the second is to develop a workplace that allows people to maximize their potential, and the third is to improve operational processes and enhancing operational efficiency in engineering. The next clip is regarding the healthcare solution domain. In the healthcare solution domain, we will continue to make efforts to achieve 0 events, namely to reduce events of cardiovascular diseases to 0. So far, OMRON has helped to spread home-use medical devices of professional quality globally and developed a diagnostic and treatment process using blood pressure data measured at home in a bid to contribute to the prevention of cerebrovascular and cardiovascular diseases. From this point on, we will work to create a new platform for preventive medicine that prevents the incidence of such events. Our goal is to realize a society where everyone can live a healthy and fulfilling life and access quality health care. There are 3 things we will like to achieve towards this society: the first is to create devices that can measure vital sign data in everyday settings; the second is to support the adoption of remote medical service, which will use algorithms to support doctors in making diagnostic and treatment decisions; and finally, the third is to develop new preventive medical services. The next clip is about the social solution domain. In the social solution domain, we aim to contribute to the spread and efficient use of renewable energy and the sustainability of infrastructure supporting a digital society. OMRON has catalyzed the spread of solar power generation and storage batteries. Going forward, we will contribute to the further spread of renewable energy by using our advanced energy control technology to eliminate the bottleneck in stabilizing power generation systems. In the social infrastructure sub-domain, on the other hand, we have applied our ample knowledge of how various equipment and facilities are operated on site in order to support their operation and maintenance through our nationwide service network. We will, from now on, innovate the operation and maintenance process by offering a management service that supports the efficient operation of on-site systems. To realize this, we will achieve 3 things: the first is to provide a control system to stabilize power generation, and the second is to develop a management and service system that will support efficient use of shop floor systems, the third is to enhance the overall operational efficiency of social infrastructure. The final clip I'd like to show you is about the device and module solutions domain. In the device and module solution domain, we will contribute to the spread of new energy and high-speed communications. OMRON has thus far supplied to customers from across the globe high-performance, quality relays and switches that connect and disconnect electrical devices, which are built into customers' products. With the ongoing introduction of energy with little environmental impact, it is expected that every device will be operated on direct current. In response to this change, OMRON will use technology to safely control discharge and to detect the timing of failures and events in order to create a device that enhances the safety of equipment by preventing fire and electrical shock. To contribute to the spread of high-speed communication on the other hand, we will create a high-frequency device that enables uninterrupted connectivity by utilizing technology for enhancing noise resistance and precise processing technology for mass production, the latter of which we excel in. To realize this society, we will achieve 3 things: the first is to create devices which elevate equipment safety and prevents fires and electric shocks caused by direct current, and the second is to create microwave-enabled devices capable of maintaining stable connectivity even in 5G and 6G environments, the third is the creation of devices that generate a low environmental burden. These are the 4 social values OMRON will create in the future. In order to create these social values, we will continue to evolve the way we create value itself. The goal is to realize new value through the combination of products and services, not only products centered around components. At our turning point in society and markets, when intrinsic value is reconsidered, the value generation is not limited to products. For example, consulting services, operational support services and improvement services for i-BELT in IAB. We will also increase the speed and feasibility of implementation through co-creation with our partners without limiting ourselves to our own resources. In order to realize value through products and services and to co-create with partners, it's important to build a data platform that will serve as a base for such value creation. We will build a data platform by linking data generated by our own devices and services with those of our partners. And by utilizing this data, we will develop new solutions that combine products and services. Based on this concept, we will transform the business structure of the entire group over the medium to long term, shifting to our profit structure that includes not only products but also a recurring service model. The recently announced capital and business alliance with JMDC is one of the first examples of this. JMDC's medical data such as treatment billings and checkup data together with vital data collected and accumulated by OMRON from its consumer health care devices such as BPMs and electrocardiograph will be added to build a robust health data platform. Based on this data platform, we will develop a business providing solutions to improve health and prevent progression to severe conditions. By attracting many partners and creating solutions that no one has been able to do before, we plan to first solve the problems of Japanese health care and support its progress. Furthermore, through this capital and business alliance, we will learn from JMDC the business concept, value development and operations of a database service business and accelerate the transformation of the industrial automation, IAB business, and our social systems business into data-driven businesses. Up to here, I have explained our reason to exist, the society of 2030 and the social values we would like to create. As I have just explained today, in the next decade, OMRON will continue to create social needs through automation that empowers people. OMRON will continue to create social value by solving the many social issues that arise in an optimization society through its businesses. This will help OMRON to grow its business, thereby increasing its economic value. By creating both social and economic value in this way, we aim to maximize OMRON's corporate value. Please look forward to the future evolution of the OMRON Group. This concludes the explanation of the long-term vision. Next, let me explain about our medium-term management plan. In this part, I will explain in the following order. As the first stage, strategies and policies, transformation of business, transformation of COVID management organizational capability, strengthening sustainability initiatives and management target, starting with the other strategies and policies of the plan. Please look at Page 30. We have positioned the 3 years from 2020 as the transformation acceleration phase. To accelerate the transformation of our capability to create value and achieve sustainable growth in response to emerging social issues by capturing growth opportunities one after another and demonstrate our competitive edge, which was accumulated during the VG period. We will realize very strong growth. At the same time, to adapt changing society, we will promote organizational capability transformation and increase growth sustainability. Please look at 31 Page. Here, we are showing overall policy and group strategy of the first stage. The overall policy is taking on the challenge of value creation by accelerating transformation. There are 3 group strategies. Please look at the highlighted portion in light blue: first, transformation of business; transformation of corporate management and organizational capability; and strengthening of sustainability initiatives. Let's look at one by one, Page 32. First, transformation of business. Today, I'd like to talk about the evolution of 4 core businesses, Page 33. As I mentioned in the vision part, we create social value through our business by developing solutions to social issues in 4 domains. From the next page, I'd like to talk about 4 core businesses initiatives corresponding to 4 domains. Page 34. Starting with IAB. IAB, as our core business, continues to lead the group's growth in first stage. Please look at the left-hand side. As the world migrates toward a sustainable society, we have set and focused as focus domains on growth sectors, such as medical and logistics sector as well as digital, environmental, mobility and food and household goods, where manufacturing will change. Primarily there, we are going to evolve innovative automation, OMRON's strength, and we will reinforce internal resources and enhance co-creation of partners. I'll come back on details later on. On the right-hand side, we are showing targets. We are going to realize sales growth at 7% of CAGR, mainly for focus domains. More specifically, we are going to expand our sales from JPY 430 billion to JPY 530 billion or up JPY 100 billion over 3 years. We also set the number of companies who adopted innovative automation as new KPI. We are going to target at 5,000 such companies in 2024 or double the number of companies in 2021. Page 31 -- 35, please. SSB. As you can see on the left-hand side, we have set renewable energy control and management services, which include maintenance and operative support as focus domains. And then at center of the slide, we have key initiatives. We introduced and expand remotely controllable storage systems and create/expand recurring services and complete restructuring of railway-related business models. Also, we are going to accelerate storage system businesses through alliances with electric power retailers. We will also accelerate alliances with global partners. Please look at the other right-hand side. The sales will be targeted at JPY 100 billion. And as for the -- as to the number of connected energy management device units, we targeted 50,000 on a 3-year cumulative basis. On Page 33, we are going to the target at the 10% sales growth for the HCB, and the sales for the 3 years will increase from JPY 134 billion to JPY 180 billion. And we are going to capture the opportunity to increase the number of users of JPY 1 billion and -- 1 million, and we are going to target at 600,000 by 2024. On Page 36, the other, EMC. We are going to target at the other recurring service creation and the other storage of battery. And as to the business model changes of the other retail business, the railroad business will also be targeted at. And we will also work on the business acceleration with the other partners, and we will target at JPY 100 billion of sales. In the other, over the 3 years, we are going to target at 50,000 over 3 years. Next, EMC. Earlier for the long-term vision part, I said that with the digitalization of society, every device will be operated on direct current. And we'll respond to that trend preemptively, and we will also concentrate our management resources for 5G, 6G-compatible microwave devices. In leveraging our technology prowess, we are going to create high-functional, high-quality new products and realize mid- to long-term growth. We will promote co-creation with partners through early participation in new designs for leading companies and alliances with think tanks and technology ventures. In addition to sales growth, we set target for sales volume for products contributing to adoption of renewable energy and high-speed communication, namely 60 million units for product for DC equipment and 170 million units for microwave device-related products. Next page. This slide shows the focus domains of 4 core businesses and sales growth of those domains. Please look at the left-hand side. As I explained earlier, we set the focus domains for 4 core businesses to drive growth. On the right-hand side, we are showing whole company-level sales. Our plan is to increase significantly the sales of focus domains. As shown in blue, more specifically, plus 45% or plus JPY 148 billion. In JPY 148 billion, IAB accounts for JPY 87.5 billion or more than half, IAB will drive growth. Please look at Page 39. Now let me explain how we are going to expand sales in focus domains of IAB. We will capture investment for new growth opportunities in each of the other 5 sectors where investment levels are high. For digital sector, we are going to grasp investment for product capability expansion of semiconductor, which is in global shortage, as well as investment for ultra-miniaturization of next-generation semiconductor. For the environmental mobility, we would target an investment in high-efficiency production of EV products, especially secondary battery, where investment will expand as new energy, the best vehicle will disseminate. For food and household goods, we are going to grasp investment for technological innovation for packaging and processing, where technological innovation advances to eliminate plastics. Also, in medical areas, a new growth area for IAB, we are going to target at traceability, the enhancement to prevent distribution of counterfeit drugs. For logistics, we are going to target that investment for operative automation due to serious operations short -- operator shortage and increased logistics. As common themes are the four -- the industries, we target an investment for sustainability and manufacturing. And in this first stage for capturing, earlier mentioned, growth opportunity as much as possible, we will powerfully leverage application business cycle to implement innovative automation. Please look at top right. Through co-creation with leading companies in each industry, we are going to continue to create advanced innovative application, and we must produce packages where such innovative application are optimally combined for each manufacturing challenge. And this package will be deployed to our customers widely in a speedy manner. We are going to increase the global engineers 1.3x or to 2,000, and we will fully utilize 37 global automation centers. And to leverage this deployment of values, we will be aggressive for alliances with system integrators. By leveraging this cycle powerfully, we are going to achieve JPY 530 billion of sales in fiscal 2024. And now I'm going to explain about the model example of our innovative applications that we create. In the first stage, we will create innovative applications with manufacturing concepts of automation exceeding human capability, sophisticated human machine collaboration and innovation in digital engineering. Already, many new applications have been released and verified. Today, this slide is showing leading applications. Today, please look at the right-hand side. I would like to show you the video of innovation in digital engineering. As you can see, robotics-integrated controller and digital twinning technology have enabled a virtual representation of the movements of all the equipments on the production line. This means that the start-ups of global production facilities and the maintenance can be done at another factory. This will advance digital transformation of manufacturing sites and improved productivity significantly by creating many applications in line with manufacturing concepts in the first stage. We can create and deliver to many customers, values unique only to OMRON. Thank you. Now I'd like to talk about allocation of resources on Page 42. As you can see on this slide, as to SG&A expenses and R&D expenses of 4 core businesses will be increased to JPY 274 billion. Especially, we will allocate focusing on IAB, which has high growth potential. Please look at the right-hand side for main IAB investment specifics, namely the product developments, such as new application and robots; investment in human capital, including hiring and -- of application engineers and improving capability; developing the foundations for expanding service business. So far, I've been explaining about the business formation, creating around evolution of 4 core businesses, especially in IAB. Next, I'd like to talk about the transformation of corporate management and organizational capabilities. Please turn to the next page. To continue creating value while adapting to changes in the business environment, we will evolve our corporate management and organizational capabilities. We have established 3 areas to be addressed. They are acceleration of diversity and inclusion, data-driven enterprise operations through DX and improvement of supply chain resilience. Today, I'd like to explain in detail about accelerating diversity and inclusion. Please turn to Page 45. Here is OMRON's concept of diversity and inclusion. The following page describes initiatives to accelerate our efforts going forward. Please turn to Page 46. On this slide, I would especially like to highlight the 3 areas that are highlighted in bold letters. The first is proactive investment in individuals that are keen to grow. The amount will be increased to JPY 6 billion, more than 3x the previous amount. The second is a job-based personnel system. We have already introduced this system for managers, and we will gradually expand it to general employees. The third is a performance-linked stock compensation plan. We will newly introduce it to all global managers. We will promote the human resources measures to increase human creativity by 7% versus fiscal year 2021. Human creativity is defined as amount of value added divided by labor costs. It is a performance indicator of value creation through the exercise of each individual's abilities, and it's positioned as an important strategic goal. The next part is about strengthening sustainability initiatives. Please turn to Page 48. First, we are working to achieve a carbon-neutral society. OMRON is committed to fulfilling its social responsibilities to the Earth and society and to transforming carbon neutrality into a competitive advantage for the company. Please refer to the graph on the left. First, in the first stage, we will reduce Scope 1 and 2 emissions from our activities by 53% compared to fiscal 2016. Next, please see the domestic initiatives on the right. Over the next 3 years, we will achieve zero carbon emissions for Scope 2 electricity at all 76 sites in Japan. When all of these sites achieve zero carbon, OMRON's PLCs, blood pressure monitors and other products will have been made in zero-carbon factories. In addition to performance and price, environmental value will be added to the products. In the future, customers will increasingly demand zero-carbon products. OMRON's commitment to the environment will become a strength of its products. We will engage in these efforts ahead of other companies to develop social value into economic value and achieve further growth. Scope 3 initiatives are next. Please turn to Page 49. As you can see, we have also set new reduction targets for Scope 3. In fiscal 2030, we aim to achieve an 18% reduction compared to fiscal 2016. In the first stage, each business will begin working towards this goal. Please turn to the next page. The next page is about thorough respect for human rights throughout the value chain. In addition to the existing initiatives, we are launching 2 more new initiatives. Please refer to the right side of this page. The first is to implement human rights due diligence in alignment with UNGP, and the second is to develop a human rights remedying mechanism across the global value chain. Please turn to Page 51. The last part of this section is about management targets. This time, we have set management targets that integrate both financial and nonfinancial targets. We will integrate business growth and sustainability initiatives more than ever before. First, our financial targets. Please turn to Page 52. As you can see, we have 6 company-wide goals. We will strive for net 7% CAGR in net sales, mainly in the focused businesses described today. Next is operating income. We will strive to achieve more than double-digit annual growth while making aggressive investments. Third, for operating cash flow, we plan to achieve JPY 250 billion over the 3-year period. In addition, we will continue to target over 10% ROIC and ROE for the group, while we plan for EPS growth at 12% or JPY 400 or more. Now please turn to Page 53. This slide shows a step chart comparing the operating income forecast for fiscal year 2021 and the target for fiscal year 2024. From left to right, the forecast for fiscal '21 is JPY 88 billion, and the rightmost figure is the target of JPY 120 billion for fiscal '24. As you can see, we will use the resources generated by sales growth and gross margin improvement to reinvest aggressively, mainly in the IAB business as well as investing to strengthen our organizational capabilities. Please turn to Page 54. Next, our targets by segment. We will aim to achieve growth in all segments. IAB and HCB are expected to drive sales and profit growth, in particular. For IAB, we aim for 7% sales growth and 20% operating margins, while making aggressive investments. In HCB, we are targeting sales growth of 10% as well and an operating margin of 15.6%. SSB and EMC are aiming to achieve an operating margin of 10% by promoting structural transformation and seizing growth opportunities. Next, our nonfinancial targets. From the first stage, we will continue to work on the 10 plus 1 or 11 nonfinancial targets, which will enable us to create social value as a group and gain a competitive edge. First, we will define sales from focused businesses that help solve the 3 social issues at sustainability sales and aim to achieve a 45% increase over fiscal 2021 levels. We will work across the group to make a greater impact on society. The 6 goals from number 2 to 7 represent the transformation of the company's operations and organizational capabilities and the strengthening of its environmental and human rights initiatives. The 3 targets from 8 through 10 are going to be goals set through voting of all global employees. By engaging global employees in the decision-making process, we aim to motivate and have employees take action individually, which can turn into our competitive advantage. The final plus 1 target is for top management in each region to declare their commitment to the community in accordance with OMRON's sustainability policy. Please turn to Page 56. Next is the investment plan. To achieve growth in the first stage in sustainable growth and the second stage, we will place the highest priority on IAB and aggressively invest in growth. We currently plan to invest JPY 200 billion in growth, but we'll consider adding more as M&A opportunities arise. In addition to business investments and growth, R&D and capital expenditures, we will also increase investments to achieve nonfinancial targets. Investments in carbon neutrality will increase significantly to JPY 20 billion, and investment in human resource development will triple to JPY 6 billion. Finally, I'd like to talk about our cash allocation and shareholder return policies. First, our cash allocation policy is to prioritize investment in growth and sustainability initiatives to create new value, while at the same time, providing stable and continuous returns to shareholders. The source of investment and shareholder returns will be based on retained earnings and sustainably generated operating cash flow. Next, about our shareholder return policy. Instead of the conventional combination of having a dividend payout ratio and DOE target, only DOE will be used as the basis. Surplus funds retained over the long term will be used to buy back shares in a flexible manner. This concludes the explanation of the medium-term plan. In concluding today's presentation, I'd like to reiterate my thoughts. Under SF2030, our vision is to continue to create social needs through human-oriented automation. And we are committed to putting our corporate philosophy into practice and working with our stakeholders to shape a sustainable society, thereby maximizing our corporate value. The next decade will be a turning point and full of opportunities to create social needs. We will continue to create value that is needed by society and achieve further growth through automation that empowers people. OMRON is poised to seize growth opportunities arising from social challenges. We will continue to create value by integrating business and sustainability, evolving the capabilities we have developed through VG. We will achieve strong long-term growth and continue to enhance our corporate value. We hope you look forward to the future of OMRON. That is all I have to say. Thank you very much for your kind attention.
Tsutomu Igaki
executiveThis is the end of the presentation. Now we will move on to Q&A session. Today, we will take questions from investors and analysts, and then we will answer questions from the press. So the questions are from investors and analysts. [Operator Instructions] So any questions? First question please.
Unknown Analyst
analystCan you hear me?
Tsutomu Igaki
executiveYes, we can hear you.
Unknown Analyst
analystThank you very much for detailed and wider-scope questions after the presentation. I have 2 questions. First, Page 34, about IAB. The first stage, IAB sales cycle, CAGR, 7%. That's the sales growth for the 3 years. So if the cycle after will remain as it is, and do you expect that the sales will continue to grow? Because in the past 2 or 3 years, there are some adjustments of the cycles. And even when there is an adjustment, you can organically grow at this level. And so please elaborate on how you are looking at the sales cycle -- growth cycle for coming years.
Yoshihito Yamada
executiveHere is Yamada answering your question. Thank you for your question. So for IAB, the -- how we are looking at the operating environment, basically, the manufacturing companies, our customers are very aggressive in their investment activities. For one thing, their production sites are diversified to avoid geographical -- geopolitical risks or to be closer to the consumption sites and to rebuild the value chain near the location of consumption. And to make the business more secure, they are relocating their production sites closer to the site of consumption, and that's a tailwind for us. And during the VG period, the growth areas -- for example, the secondary battery for EV, our applications, many of them were used in such areas. And because of that, I think we can expect much higher growth going forward. That said, currently, this -- the situation in Ukraine and the impact coming from that is, I believe, is great. So we need to watch closely how the investment appetite of our customers will change.
Unknown Analyst
analystMy second question, Page 57, cash allocation and shareholders' return. So the cash at hand is 1 to 2 months of monthly sales. That's your standard. Does it change or not? And as to this JMDC alliance, as a result of that, more than JPY 100 billion of cash is -- was used then. I think now the cash level was reduced to 1.5 months worth level. So am I right to understand that the cash cycle itself has been reduced?
Koji Nitto
executiveHere is Nitto answering your question. As to cash at hand, 1 to 2 months or 1.5x at that policy will not change. That's the level of working capital. This investment in JMDC, the current cash level will be 1.7 months of sales. But because of what is happening recently, we did some -- the borrow, we did borrow some money. So we are planning to increase the level of 2 months worth sales. So going forward, as to share buyback, as we explained for the midterm plan, operating cash flow should be improved. And as a result, how many M&A activities will come around, we have JPY 200 billion level of investment there or maybe more than that. It would cost more, depending on the investment level that would change the share buyback, the same, so at this moment, we cannot say whether we will share buyback or not.
Tsutomu Igaki
executiveSo let's move on to the next question. Over to you.
Unknown Analyst
analystCan you hear me?
Tsutomu Igaki
executiveYes, we can.
Unknown Analyst
analystSo I have 2 questions. One is about top line for IAB and healthcare. So for IAB topline, first of all, it may overlap with Mr. Tanaka's question that was asked before me. But on Page 38 and on Page 39, you raise growth opportunities in 5 focus areas for IAB. Which area, in particular, is expected to contribute in sales? Can you explain a little bit more about it? Considering the remarks you just made, digital environmental mobility apparently seems to be the areas where growth is going to be driven. So that was my impression when I saw the numbers for IAB. So I also thought you may have a good visibility into driving growth because your targets are pretty high. It's JPY 87.5 billion in growth. So what -- how much conviction do you have in achieving this growth? And which areas from -- which areas do you have high expectation towards?
Seiji Takeda
executiveThis is Takeda speaking, and I'd like to take your question. So for the 5 areas that we set, in particular, we are expecting strong momentum to come from digital and environmental mobility, as you rightly said, especially for digital. Semiconductors are mainly the area that we expect high growth in. For environmental mobility, it's mainly in the area of rechargeable batteries. With our innovative applications, we are capturing demand from our customers. So these are the 2 areas, in particular, semiconductor-related and rechargeable battery-related business is driving the business. In addition to that, for VG 2.0, our different areas of focus will be medicine and logistics. From an absolute amount point of view compared to digital environmental mobility, the contributions will be smaller. But we believe the growth rates are going to be high, whether it be enhanced traceability to prevent distribution of counterfeit drugs or for logistics, we have robots and -- which are mobile robots as well as collaborative robots or picking robots that can capture the needs of the logistics industry. So this is a different way we would like to capture opportunities in the logistics field compared to VG 2.0.
Unknown Analyst
analystHearing your response, I just have an additional question. For innovative automation, 2,500 companies have adopted [ your ] mission. So in new areas, it's growing in medicine and logistics? Or is recognition growing across the board? And are you able to achieve double growth in a shorter period of time, reaching 5,000 companies?
Seiji Takeda
executiveWe are expecting to gain traction from all areas and reach 5,000 with adoption of innovative applications.
Unknown Analyst
analystSo my second question is about top line as well because it was stronger than expected, which is in the HCB area. Compared to the past 5 years -- past 10 years, CAGR used to be about 5% to 8%. So you're striving for 10% or more. So I thought you are confident about the environmental changes underway, but can you talk about your conviction? Because I haven't really felt it yet. So changing the angle of my question, for example, for remote medical services on Page 38, once again, you raised focused areas. But which area in particular is likely to grow? Is it going to be BPM? Or is it going to be coming from elsewhere? That's going to be incremental in growing your sales. So the CAGR for HCB looks high from my perspective, so can you explain the reasons why in a quantitative manner? And what kind of environmental changes are you feeling strongly? That would be a qualitative question as well.
Seiji Takeda
executiveSo this is Takeda. I will take your question. So first of all, at this point in time, I can't give out the details, but out of total sales, about 70% is centered around BPM or cardiovascular devices. And in fiscal 2024, as of JPY 180 billion, the mix is expected to be pretty much the same. We are going to see ongoing demand for BPMs, and we will be attaching ECG functions as well. So cardiovascular disease patients and devices that cater to them would contribute to JPY 180 billion. That's the image we have. And regarding whether there is underlying needs for the business, first of all, for areas, we're accepting India to further grow geography-wise and also the inland areas of China, which are Tier 3, Tier 4 cities. We are expecting accelerated growth. Another thing I would like to mention is we would like to add more value to the devices. For VG 2.0, we were talking about consumer ECGs, and we will be launching this globally, including Japan in the next 3 years. So for this product -- with this product, we would like to grow our devices business for cardiovascular diseases. And also for remote medical services, this will contribute to sales as well. But in the next midterm plan, we believe that the penetration as well as the scale will still be midway for remote medical services. That's the progress we're anticipating.
Yoshihito Yamada
executiveFor automation, one more thing I would like to add is, 2,500 companies over 6 years, we're trying to double that over 3 years. And you were asking why we believe so, right? Why we believe we can do that. For -- in the first 6 years, until we reach 2,500, the innovative applications were being developed together with the customers. So that was the phase. For the next 3 years, what's largely different is, we already have 100-something innovative applications for rechargeable batteries or for electronic components and for other areas. They're already available. So it's just a matter of driving the adoption of these applications, and we believe we can sufficiently reach 5,000.
Tsutomu Igaki
executiveNext question.
Unknown Analyst
analystFirst question. As you explained in the presentation, data-driven, the carbon-free initiatives are really providing great business opportunities, I believe. And I think we can hold a great deal of expectation in those areas. And based on that understanding, this data-driven business during the coming 3 years, how would it expand? To what extent? Do you have some quantitative data? The same question for carbon-free. So the contribution to your business, taking the example of IAB, how much this kind of business will contribute to sales amount of applications, and how much impact?
Yoshihito Yamada
executiveFor the IAB business, for example, this business called i-BELT. This is data-driven, cost-recurring type of business, and along with that business, we provide consulting and after services. Those services are attached to the i-BELT business. And the service scope is expanding as well as the number of the company clients. And now other than the IABs, the services, including hardwares, now we were growing to over JPY 12 billion level of sales, and we'd like to expand it to JPY 50 billion level over 3 years or so. And we have a good feel about that because the customers want to solve their production issues and for that, they need partners. So it's not that the manufacturers are providing the good components only. Not only that, the services and the quality or the improvement of quality of productivity, they need partner to run with them. So that includes the development of engineers, and we would like to invest in that as well.
Unknown Analyst
analystYou said JPY 12 billion. Based on how many companies using your service?
Yoshihito Yamada
executiveLet me check. For i-BELT, how many companies? 50 companies or 60 companies or so.
Unknown Analyst
analystAnd still, the sales is already JPY 12 billion?
Yoshihito Yamada
executiveYes. The service sales as a whole, including i-BELT.
Unknown Analyst
analystSo with JPY 50 billion, the margin will be improved greatly.
Yoshihito Yamada
executiveYes, that will be -- that will make a very profitable business.
Unknown Analyst
analystMy second question is about JMDC. So you announced about that deal, and Mr. Yamada made some comments at the press conference. Talking with some investors, this data-driven business, you are making shift to data-driven business. That direction itself is understandable, said some investors. But as Mr. Yamada said, integrated data platform should be built first. And after that happened, it's still invisible. What kind of businesses will be developed on that platform? And I agree with that opinion. Any thought on that?
Yoshihito Yamada
executiveThank you for the question. If you look at the Page 27, I think it was 27. As Nakanomyo-san pointed out, this capital alliance with JMDC is not for short-term return. As I mentioned at the press conference, it's on a long-term alliance, where OMRON makes a shift to the other provider, data-driven provider. And to make a big jump, we can lead, we have opted for this business alliance with JMDC. As you can see here, the other treatment billings, the data platform, the medical data owned by JMDC and the data from the daily life, the vital sign data owned by OMRON will be combined. Out there, such data platform does not exist yet. So this will be the only data platform. And then after that, on top of the data platform, as shown here, we are going to do solutions to prevent progression to severe conditions or solutions to improve health. That's what we'd like to do, but we have just launched such concept. So first, we will work quickly on the combination of the other -- those data assets to perform data platform to work on the other solution provision.
Tsutomu Igaki
executiveThere are a lot of people who would like to ask a question. Therefore, from here on, I would like to ask you to ask only one question each. We hope you understand. So the next question.
Unknown Analyst
analystSo I would like to ask one question. On Page 34 and onwards, you talk about each of focus businesses and you talk about their contribution. For the focus businesses in IAB, you added medicine as well as logistics as focus areas. For these focal businesses, what kind of changes were there that led to -- if there's any changes in the focus areas and this long-term vision, please let us know. And for EMC and so forth, they are high profitable businesses. But for the nonfocal businesses, what would be their positioning going forward? You were doing portfolio reshuffling in the past, but what are your thoughts going forward?
Seiji Takeda
executiveThis is Takeda speaking. I will take your question. So for Page 38, for the 4 core businesses, we have identified -- we identified focus domains. For IAB, we explained this earlier. And for health care, it hasn't changed. It's an extension of VG 2.0, this time around to that end. For social systems solutions and services, we did a redefinition. We have included renewable energy control as a focus domain. And also for railway as well as roadways, it's not as if we are going to withdraw, but we want to change the way our business model is. After we make the equipment sales, we would like to also offer management services that offers maintenance and monitoring. For EMC, switches and relays, that will be the main part of our devices business. And this is going to transition to DC, and we'll be focusing on DC equipment as well as microwave devices so as to have this business go through another growth phase. So we have reestablished all the positions. So those would be the major changes amongst our 4 core businesses. And to answer your second question, for non-focus domains, we don't perceive it that way. It's more about foundational businesses. So apart from the focus domains, we will, of course, try to capture growth opportunities. However, growth rates will probably be in line with GDP growth, which is about 2% to 3%. We position them as foundation businesses, but we would like to ensure that they contribute to earnings. So they're not non-focus domains, they are foundational businesses that generate earnings for the company.
Yoshihito Yamada
executiveIf I may add a point. This is Yamada speaking. For IAB and the auto industry, that's a good example because for focus domains, new energy vehicles, or EV, is included as a focus domain under IAB. On the other hand, for ICE vehicles, this time around, it has not been included as a focus domain. Having said that, for us, it has high earnings power as a business, and in the next 3 years, when you think about the next 3 years, the size of this business is still likely to be a good size. So we will continue with this business, and we will harvest on this business. But when you think about 10 years ahead or 15 years ahead, we do believe there's going to be a transition to new energy vehicles, which is pretty much clear. So we would like to ensure that we don't miss the business opportunities, and that's why we included new energy vehicles as a focus domain.
Koji Nitto
executiveSo this is the CFO speaking. So we are talking about growth today, but of course, we will be focused on ROIC management, and this will be ongoing. So for each of the businesses, for growth and profitability, we would like to watch where they are. And if we need to do any reshuffling, we obviously would. So this effort will be ongoing. But as you have been pointing out for the electronic components business, profitability has been improving quite a lot. So in a large sense, portfolio reshuffling has pretty much run its course. So it's more about growing the business. But from here on, various things happen. There's a possibility of various things happening. In that case, we will be disciplined in taking action.
Tsutomu Igaki
executiveNext question.
Unknown Analyst
analystSo since Mr. Yamada is here, I would like to talk -- ask about the big picture. Page 3, the resilience to changes. So looking at your company from outside, I think it's true that the -- that your resilience has improved. And why, that's my question. So during the past 2 to 3 years, to grasp the end demand, you used your human resources. Does it contribute a lot? Or have you changed HR scheme? In what way you are now more capable to deal with the other changes? And you said that the other component, procurement, is still an issue. And what did not go very well for the procurement of components?
Yoshihito Yamada
executiveThank you for the question. So resilience to changes compared to -- over the past 10 years, OMRON has now a stronger resilience to changes. During the past 10 years, there is a big earthquake and the U.S.-China trade friction, conflicts and the crisis of Ukraine and the pandemic, lots of things happened, but we have been dealing with these things in a rigorous manner. And there are 3 reasons why we are more resilient. So IAB, in particular, we are now closer to our customers with automation centers being built, and we deploy SEs, system engineers, so that we can solve the on-site issues with the customers. And in that process, we can obtain information that we could not get before, and we could understand what is the most important for customers. And we heard it from the engineers of our -- the customer, the company, and we can digest that, the information to provide the good solutions. And also, the localization. Earlier, I said that the localization is now 75% -- than 75% of the key positions in Europe. For example, to have Japanese in the key positions, we would not be able to deal with changes happening regionally. So we could obtain the people of good quality, local quality people. And now the top management overseas are occupied by the local personnel. And the third reason, the risk management or governance regime is now more rigorous. Internally, we say bad news first. Bad news should be reported to me, and that is the regular practice over the past 10 years. The business line and also at the headquarters, if there's any bad news, I will hear those bad news very quickly. And based on that understanding, we can concentrate our management resources to deal with problems that much more quickly. That said, we are still on the way to achieve what we would like to achieve. For example, the procurement of components, we are not satisfying the demands of our customers. There is a order backlog. And also, there will be more impact coming from the geopolitical risks as well in Ukraine.
Unknown Analyst
analystAs to components and the procurement of components compared to other companies, it did not work very well for you and why?
Yoshihito Yamada
executiveWell, the biggest reason is these orders toward the semiconductor manufacturers. As to demand outlook, we placed order based on the smaller demand outlook compared to other companies. Usually, we can add 10% or 20% additional orders based on the demand. But the semiconductor manufacturers could not even satisfy the original demands because of the various reasons, the logistics or the natural disasters. So the strong demand of our customers turned out to be stronger than we had thought. And then we could not have a good forecast of the shortage of the semiconductors. And now logistics are disrupted and the procurement of components, the resins and all kinds of other components and molded other products as well. But it's not that the OMRON's procurement power has declined significantly in February and in March as well, we expect it to make the record high sales. So the production is working very well.
Tsutomu Igaki
executiveThank you. We have passed the scheduled time, so we would like to take one more final question.
Unknown Analyst
analystFor service sales, you talked about it in the presentation, and I have a question about it. In the midterm plan against topline growth, profit growth is not expected to grow as much, and you are going to focus on reinvesting. But for the service ratio, I guess the profitability improvement is not that great either. So performance-wise, how is higher services sales going to contribute to better profitability? Or is that going to be realized over the longer term, not in the next 3 years? So profitability contribution through higher services sales is my question.
Seiji Takeda
executiveThis is Takeda speaking. I will take your question. For the services business, on a -- you need to think about it on a stand-alone basis and on a company-wide basis. So I'd like to talk about the 2 perspectives. So for its added value and gross profits, it's greater than components as a business. But from a company-wide point of view, investments towards the second stage and third stage is going to be underway. And also, investments around carbon neutrality and digital transformation will also be conducted. So overall, the contribution in gross profitability from services is going to be offset. That's how we view it right now for company-wide performance. On a stand-alone basis for services and its profitability in Stage 1 for the services business, it is -- will be in the investment stage compared to component sales. Profitability for services is not expected to be substantially higher. So from these 2 factors, sales for services and the contribution to profitability impact-wise, it's not expected to be substantial during the first stage. So that's the overall profitability impact on company-wide performance. I hope you understood my remarks.
Unknown Analyst
analystUnder the long-term vision, however, are you expecting it to contribute more?
Seiji Takeda
executiveFrom the second stage onwards, we do expect more contribution to come through so that we won't be misleading. It will contribute to Stage 1 as well. But because we're going to be making investments on a company-wide basis as well as investments into the services business as well, relative to components, the profitability is not going to be substantially higher. That was my point.
Tsutomu Igaki
executiveNow let us move on to the questions from the press. Any questions from the press? [Operator Instructions]
Unknown Attendee
attendeeCan you hear me? Question to Mr. Yamada. Your thought on your sales in the long-term vision, for VG2020, JPY 1 trillion, the target in 10 years. But the long-term vision has no other sales target. Why?
Yoshihito Yamada
executiveThank you for the question. For this time, the sales target is not set for long-term vision because the direction of OMRON and how OMRON is going to change, that's what we have been focused on. So the volume increase is not what we pursue. That's what we wanted to show in the long-term vision. That said, it's important to have good quantitative target, so have sales goals for the business segment in the midterm management plan and including nonfinancial targets. That's what we are going to do. Thank you.
Tsutomu Igaki
executiveMoving on.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeI have a question about the situation in Ukraine. The President touched upon Ukraine several times in his presentation. It's really hard to predict what's going to happen going forward. However, if the situation deteriorates, I'm sure that it will definitely have an impact on your midterm plan. In that case, you have a health care business and IAB business, and you conduct businesses in Russia, I presume. So what kind of implications should we expect? And at this point in time, are you already feeling the impact, if any?
Yoshihito Yamada
executiveThank you for your question. The situation in Ukraine, we are extremely concerned as a group. I do watch news every day, and there are so many victims from this invasion. So to all the people who have been affected, I would like to extend my condolences and my heart goes out to everyone. And I really hope that we will go back to peace, and I hope there is a ceasefire in the not-too-distant future. So going forward, as we see an increase of refugees, humanitarian assistance is probably going to be necessary. So for the OMRON Group, we have offices in Europe, and they will mainly play a role in extending humanitarian assistance to the refugees. This is what we would like to consider. EUR 1 million or in Japanese terms, approximately JPY 120 million, is our donations we would like to make for humanitarian assistance, which will be in the form of our medical products as well as in the form of cash. As for the impact on our business operations, currently in Russia and businesses for Ukraine, we have stopped the operations for the time being. And businesses, as a policy, will be suspended for a while towards these regions. Regarding the volume of sales for Russia, annual sales currently is JPY 8.5 billion as of last fiscal year. To Ukraine, it was JPY 500 million last year. For healthcare, it was about JPY 5 billion. And for IAB and others, it accounts for approximately the rest, which is JPY 4 billion. So going forward, these businesses will be suspended for a while. So we will be impacted from that standpoint. However, when you consider the overall business mix for OMRON, sales is only about 1% of our total. So regarding the health of OMRON's business, we don't expect this to have a material impact. Having said that, this incident is expected to have a material impact on the global economy, especially in the area of energy, energy prices as well as raw material prices as well as logistic costs is definitely going to rise without question. So it's a matter of being able to respond to such changes. And we have set up a department that will respond to this emergency, and I am leading this team. So we would like to take swift action accordingly.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeI have an additional question. How about commodities from Russia? And any difficulties you're expecting in procurement that will have an impact on your procurement or production?
Yoshihito Yamada
executiveAt this moment, for rare metal, I think that's what you have in mind in asking this question. But for our products, we are not procuring such rare metals from Russia right now. However, if you go back and trace back to our suppliers, we haven't yet have -- we don't have a complete grasp of it yet. So we would like to ensure that we confirm and take action, if necessary.
Tsutomu Igaki
executiveWe have run out of time. So this is going to be the last question.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeCan you hear me?
Tsutomu Igaki
executiveYes, we can hear you.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeSo for IAB, to double the sale and also the other [ good of ] engineering -- engineers to be increased to 2,000, could you -- I would like to ask about the sales, the progression. So are you going to increase the sales, the marketing using more engineers? Because that's what [ Kias ] is doing, especially the outside global markets. So are you going to compete with [ Kias ] that way as well?
Seiji Takeda
executiveWell, here is Takeda. As you said, [ Kias ] has a wonderful business model, and we are learning from them day in, day out. As you know, we have many other types of products, and we package them as an application so that would fit different challenges of different customers. And the important thing there is the frontline, the sales engineering personnel for the packaging, so the frontline engineering sales should be reinforced. That's why we are going to increase the number of engineers to 2,000. That's the basic idea. Well, the global 37 data centers, we already have them. To solve problems by customers, we're going to combine software and hardware in a package using our technology. And for that purpose, we are going to increase the number of engineers to 2,000. So that's the reinforcement of frontline people, the reinforcement of the capability of the implementation of our values.
Tsutomu Igaki
executiveSo now as time has come, we would like to conclude the Q&A session. Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen, for participating today. After this investor briefing, we will be sending out questionnaires, so we hope you can respond. This concludes the briefing today. Thank you for your participation.
Yoshihito Yamada
executiveThank you, everyone. I'm sorry if I wasn't able to sufficiently answer your questions. But if you have any follow-up questions, please contact our Investor Relations department. Thank you once again for participating. [Statements in English on this transcript were spoken by an interpreter present on the live call.]
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