Sempra (SRE) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
August 6, 2026
What were the key takeaways from Sempra's August 6, 2026 earnings call?
In the second quarter of 2026, Sempra reported GAAP earnings of $796 million, or $1.21 per share, a significant increase from $461 million, or $0.71 per share, in the same quarter last year. Adjusted earnings were $762 million, or $1.16 per share, compared to $583 million, or $0.89 per share, in Q2 2025. Management affirmed full-year adjusted EPS guidance of $4.80 to $5.30 for 2026 and $5.10 to $5.70 for 2027, signaling confidence in continued growth despite challenges in the Texas market and California legislation discussions.
What topics did Sempra cover?
- Strong Earnings Growth: Sempra's adjusted EPS increased by 30% year-over-year, with Q2 2026 adjusted earnings of $762 million compared to $583 million in Q2 2025. CEO Jeff Martin noted, "the strength of our execution can be seen in year-to-date financial results with double-digit gains in adjusted EPS."
- Texas Growth Opportunities: Oncor is positioned for significant growth, with a $47.5 billion base capital plan and an additional $10 billion in incremental capital opportunities. The company is optimistic about the demand growth in Texas, highlighted by ERCOT's peak load reaching 91 gigawatts last month.
- Pending Transactions: Sempra is set to close a 45% equity stake sale in SI Partners, which will simplify its business model and deconsolidate nearly $9 billion of debt from its balance sheet. This transaction is expected to close later in the quarter.
- California Legislative Uncertainty: Management expressed cautious optimism regarding California wildfire liability legislation, emphasizing the importance of public policy for livability. CEO Martin stated, "I continue to believe that we'll see solid progress during this legislative session," indicating potential for positive outcomes.
- Batch Zero Process in ERCOT: The batch zero process for large load interconnections in Texas is ongoing, with 44 gigawatts of requests expected to be eligible. This process is crucial for managing the increasing electricity demand and is seen as an opportunity for future capital investments.
What were Sempra's August 6, 2026 results?
- GAAP Earnings: $796 million (vs $461 million in Q2 2025, +73% YoY)
- Adjusted EPS: $1.16 (vs $0.89 est, +30% YoY)
- Revenue:
- Full Year 2026 Adjusted EPS Guidance: $4.80 to $5.30 (maintained)
- 2027 EPS Guidance: $5.10 to $5.70 (new guidance)
- Capital Plan: $47.5 billion (base capital plan, with $10 billion incremental opportunities)
Sempra's strong earnings growth and strategic positioning in Texas provide a solid foundation for future performance. However, ongoing legislative uncertainties in California and the execution of the batch zero process in Texas pose risks that investors should monitor closely. The company's focus on capital recycling and maintaining a robust balance sheet will be critical as it navigates these challenges.
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Operator
operatorGood day, and welcome to Sempra's Second Quarter Earnings Call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I'd like to turn the conference over to Louise Bick. Please go ahead.
Louise Bick
executiveGood morning, and welcome to Sempra's second quarter 2026 earnings call. A live webcast of this teleconference and slide presentation are available on our website under the Events and Presentations section. We have several members of our management team with us today, including Jeff Martin, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; Karen Sedgwick, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Justin Bird, Executive Vice President of Sempra and Chief Executive Officer of Sempra Infrastructure. Caroline Winn, Executive Vice President of Sempra; Allen Nye, Chief Executive Officer of Oncor; [ Diane Wills, ] Vice President, Controller and Chief Accounting Officer; and other members of our senior management team. Before starting, I'd like to remind everyone that we'll be discussing forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Actual results may differ materially from those projected in any forward-looking statements we make today. The factors that could cause our actual results to differ materially are discussed in the company's most recent 10-Q filed with the SEC. Earnings per common share amounts in our presentation are shown on a diluted basis, and we'll be discussing certain non-GAAP financial measures. Please refer to the presentation slides that accompany this call for a reconciliation to GAAP measures. We also encourage you to review our 10-Q for the quarter ended June 30, 2026. I'd also like to mention that forward-looking statements contained in this presentation speak only as of today, August 6, 2026, and it's important to note that the company does not assume any obligation to update or revise any of these forward-looking statements in the future. Finally, we've established a new corporate update page within the Sempra Investors website to post industrial updates, while complying with our disclosure obligations under SEC Regulation FD. We encourage you to subscribe to the e-mail alerts so you remained informed of any developments. With that, please turn to Slide 3, and let me hand the call over to Jeff.
Jeffery Martin
executiveThank you for joining us today. Our operating businesses are executing well, and our employees are aligned around our mission of building America's leading utility growth business. The strength of our execution can be seen in year-to-date financial results with double-digit gains in adjusted EPS and positive contributions from all three growth segments. Karen will cover our financial results in more detail later on the call, but on this first slide, I thought it would be helpful to cover our key priorities for the third quarter. The first is the pending sale of a 45% equity stake in SI Partners. The transaction is expected to close later in the quarter and directly supports our corporate strategy by simplifying our business model, recycling capital into our regulated utilities displacing the need for common equity in our current base capital plan and deconsolidating close to $9 billion of debt from Sempra's balance sheet. Second, our capital recycling program also extends to Mexico, for Sempra Infrastructure is making solid progress on the sale of Ecogas. They recently received a critical regulatory approval, which puts the transaction on track to close later this month. Finally, in addition to the update, Sempra Infrastructure provided last week, they remain focused on the commissioning process at ECA LNG Phase 1, which remains a key priority as they continue to move that project toward full commercial operations. Sempra Infrastructure is also pleased with the continued progress at Port Arthur LNG Phase 1 and 2, which remain on time and on budget. Please turn to the next slide. Texas is continuing to experience unprecedented growth in electricity demand as evidenced by ERCOT's new all-time peak load of 91 gigawatts that was reached last month. Importantly, with forecast of significant low growth in the future, Oncor is well positioned to participate in what we believe is a multi-decade investment opportunity focused on modernizing and extending the electric grid. Oncor's current capital plan accounts for major investment drivers such as new high-voltage transmission projects and other system upgrades. You'll recall that Oncor is executing on a 5-year base capital plan of $47.5 billion, with $10 billion of incremental capital opportunities through 2030. Through the first half of the year, Oncor has made a lot of progress in firming up these incremental opportunities, specifically the $4 billion of North and Central Texas transmission upgrades that were recently endorsed by ERCOT. Oncor's other incremental capital opportunities include an additional $3 billion of non-Permian basin reliability plan projects endorsed by ERCOT in 2025 and $3 billion of investment that forms a part of the system resiliency plan filing that Oncor is expected to make next year. As we look ahead, we also expect a new set of capital opportunities. As an example, this slide highlights that any additional investments to serve load from the batch zero process fall outside of Oncor's $10 billion incremental capital opportunity. Please turn to the next slide where we'll discuss preliminary expectations related to ERCOT's batch zero process. The PUCT recently approved ERCOT's batch zero process, which establishes a system-wide approach for selecting and sequencing large load customer interconnection requests. Although the time line for the batch process is uncertain, 44 gigawatts of large load requests are expected to be eligible as base or studied load in Oncor's transmission system. By classification, this includes 27 gigawatts of base load defined as not requiring additional interconnection studies or allocation and 17 gigawatts of studied load, which will be evaluated and assigned through a new system-wide reliability analysis. To put the magnitude of these figures in context, 44 gigawatts of additional demand would represent a 140% increase to Oncor's current system peak load of 31 gigawatts. Importantly, this projected load meets all the PUCT eligibility requirements. Oncor holds nearly $6 billion in collateral from large load customers, including over $2 billion for the 44 gigawatt of batch zero submissions shown here. Of the 44 gigawatts, it's important to note that approximately 8 gigawatts is already connected to the system and continuing to ramp toward full utilization. This demonstrates that demand growth in Texas is not just a projection, but is actively occurring on Encore's network. ERCOT will now study how the projects included in the batch 0 process impact the existing transmission system and provide the initial results of that study. If ERCOT were to determine additional transmission is required to be built by Oncor, the capital expenditures for those projects would be incremental to Oncor's base capital plan and incremental CapEx opportunities. Looking ahead, Oncor expects to update its 5-year plan on our fourth quarter call, because ERCOT's current time line for identifying additional transmission projects is expected to extend beyond February of next year, we don't expect the roll forward plan to include new capital investments associated with batch zero. The key takeaway here is that we have a growing confidence in Oncor's execution of its base capital plan and incremental capital opportunities and believe there is increasing momentum behind Oncor's long-term growth separate and apart from how data center growth materializes in the state. Now please turn to the next slide where Karen will walk through our financial results.
Karen Sedgwick
executiveThanks, Jeff. Earlier today, Sempra reported second quarter 2026 GAAP earnings of $796 million or $1.21 per share. This compares to second quarter 2025 GAAP earnings of $461 million or $0.71 per share. On an adjusted basis, second quarter earnings were $762 million or $1.16 per share. This is a notable increase compared to our second quarter 2025 earnings of $583 million or $0.89 per share. As Jeff noted, we're very pleased with our performance in the first half of the year, and think we're well positioned to deliver another year of strong financial results. Please turn to the next slide. Next, let's go over the second quarter of 2026 adjusted earnings variances compared to the same period last year. At Sempra Texas, we had $138 million of higher equity earnings from new base rates, including interim rates, the UTM, higher invested capital and customer growth, partially offset by higher depreciation, interest expense and O&M. Due to the timing of Oncor's comprehensive base rate settlement approved in April 2026, our second quarter earnings includes a favorable impact of approximately $50 million related to the first quarter of 2026. This amount reflects the difference between the newly approved rates and the rates previously in effect during that period. Turning to Sempra California. We had $24 million of increased earnings, primarily from higher CPUC base operating margin, net of operating expenses and higher electric transmission margin, partially offset by lower AFUDC equity. Sempra California also had $11 million of lower earnings from higher net interest expense and other, partially offset by higher income tax benefits. At Sempra Infrastructure earnings increased by $26 million, primarily from lower depreciation due to assets held for sale, lower O&M and other, partially offset by higher income tax expense. At Sempra Parent, results were effectively in line with the prior period. Please turn to the next slide. With strong year-to-date results and progress against our key initiatives, we're affirming our full year 2026 adjusted EPS guidance range of $4.80 to $5.30, and 2027 EPS guidance range of $5.10 to $5.70. We're also affirming our projected long-term EPS growth rate of 7% to 9%. As we look ahead, our focus remains on execution, including closing the SI Partners transaction, strengthening the balance sheet post close and continuing to advance our record $65 billion capital plan. This capital plan is centered on utility growth with investments increasingly directed towards Sempra Texas. The growth we see there is supported by robust economic activity, increasing electricity demand and the need to modernize and expand the electricity network across the state. I'd also note that with considering our improving confidence in Oncor's $10 billion of incremental capital opportunities, we see Texas continuing to become an even larger part of our business, with a goal for it to comprise over 60% of Sempra's total rate base in 2030. Taken together, this investment outlook supports our confidence in Sempra's long-term growth. With one of the highest predicted long-term EPS growth rates in the sector, we think Sempra continues to offer investors a compelling mix of current yield, durable earnings growth and long-term capital appreciation. Now let's open it up for your questions.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] And our first question will come from Shar Pourreza from Wells Fargo.
Constantine Lednev
analystIt's actually Constantine here for Shar. Just starting off in Texas, the obvious question around the data center pause, rhetoric or not. Do you see a threat of pushing for generation or even behind the meter solutions instead of transmission build, how does that impact time lines here, especially as you highlight the batch zero opportunities going into next year?
Jeffery Martin
executiveThanks, Constantine. I'll address the data center focus first. I think one of the key things that we wanted to approach this call was in the message that our long-term view at Oncor has improved over the last quarter. So we continue to think there's a great opportunity here for our base capital plan to move forward as well as upside capital. And one of the key points in our prepared materials was anything related to the batch process would really be upside beyond that. One of the things I think that we're focused on in this environment is that public policy and a lot of the recent discussions have been focused on protecting Texas families from the new costs associated with expanding the grid to meet new load customers, as you indicated, data centers. And I think in this area, the governor and the PUC both have shown a lot of leadership and I think that's important. I would also not Constantine that Sempra were signatories to the President's Ratepayer Protection Plan. And together with Oncor, we're supportive of the framework that the PUCT is now moving forward with. And I think this is very important relative to your question. And that's to ensure that data centers, number one, cover the full cost of interconnection. And number two, the lower residential bills by having a portion of their tariff allocated to rate payer subsidies. And you're seeing this model play out across other jurisdictions as well. So overall, I think broader stakeholder involvement in the process sets the foundation for a more durable framework. And I think this is a very important point for our stakeholders. The process that's underway now in Austin, receiving more input and more inclusivity of the process, that's designed to create a more durable framework for participants in the market like Oncor to deploy capital in content. When you put that together, with the improving regulatory compact that we received through the UTM legislation last year and the improvements in the recent base rate review that's obviously key drivers in the improved financial performance you're seeing at Oncor.
Constantine Lednev
analystExcellent. Maybe just a quick follow-up there. So the quick return to normal kind of help the Oncor CapEx update at year-end. Any way to think about that upside to the upside kind of converting closer to plan by that time frame?
Jeffery Martin
executiveI mean I think one of the things that were kind of sitting the message here is that there's a lot of flexibility in that base capital plan around how [ Don Clevenger and Allen ] move capital around. And obviously, there's been some positive steps to firm up the $10 billion of incremental opportunity. So I think that investors can take away from this call that we expect that the roll forward capital plan at Oncor will go up. And I would expect that there's a fair amount of flexibility about how they sequence projects. I think the near-term focus of the team and Allen want to make sure that we're really engaged in the ongoing process, particularly I think that will also be helpful to them, firming up their plans this fall, and we expect to come back to you on the fourth quarter call with a robust discussion around Oncor. And clearly, and Karen made this point, this is becoming a much bigger part of Sempra. And I think as you think about the KKR transaction Constantine, putting that in context, it's all about our pivot to become a pure-play utility and allocate capital to the markets where we think investors will assign the highest value. And certainly, we believe that's Texas. I think the story in Texas continues to get better. Some of these near-term issues need to be dealt with, and that's obviously going to be a priority for Allen's team.
Constantine Lednev
analystExcellent. And maybe just a quick housekeeping item on the earlier announced [ ECA ] delays. How are you thinking about some of the near-term offset going into year-end? And any sequential read-through of the USI transaction, or are those two separate tracks?
Jeffery Martin
executiveYes. Thank you for that question. And we put out a press release just over a week ago that gave kind of a comprehensive update on Sempra Infrastructure. I think there's a couple of key points here to your question. First off, the two very large projects at [ Purate, ] both Phase 1 and Phase 2 are on time and on budget. They're proceeding very well. Obviously, anytime you have a commissioning process like you have at [ ECA, ] there's a fair amount of complexity to that. I continue to feel quite constructive about the work that's underway to commission that project. But Justin, you'll recall Justin is the CEO of Sempra Infrastructure, Constantine. It would be helpful if you can provide some additional details about what you found in the root calls analysis? And how you think about the time line going forward this fall.
Justin Bird
executiveYes. Hi, Constantine. So as you recall, after we exported the first cargo out of [ ECA ] in July, we shut down the plant for planned maintenance and inspections. And during that time, we discovered damage to equipment connected to the plant's mixed refrigerant compressors and we are working with our EPC contractor and the OEM, the original equipment vendor on the root cause and our mediation plan. Given where we are, we expect the project to reach substantial completion into the fourth quarter of 2026 with sales under our long-term sale and purchase agreements commencing shortly thereafter. So we don't anticipate additional delay after that at [ ECA. ] And again, [ ECA ] is not the -- sorry, the substantial completion of [ ECA ] is not a condition precedent under the SI transaction.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] And our next question will come from Steve Fleishman from Wolfe.
Steven Fleishman
analystThe -- maybe you could just talk to some of the recent political commentary on the 765 kV approval process and thoughts on any risk of that changing, or just where does that -- where do you think that goes from here? Any color on that?
Jeffery Martin
executiveSure. Let me take -- make a couple of points here. As I mentioned this on to Constantine's question, Steve, but we continue to think the long-term picture at Oncor is intact and improving. Obviously, to your point, there's been some important recent developments. And I'll make two quick points here. I think the theme is we remain constructive. The most important thing that we're hearing out of [ Austin ] is to make sure that we're spending enough time to fully integrate the voices and concerns from landowners, and we want to make sure, obviously, that, that process is inclusive. That's been a clear directive from the governor's office, and I think that's also something that PUCT is working hard to ensure happens. The key theme that I think you're hearing people focus on, Steve, is, if it takes a little bit more time in the process stage to get to what we think is a durable framework that allows us to invest capital with more certainty. We think this process will be time well spent. I would also note that recent Senate hearings, it's very clear that there's two priorities being focused on. One is protecting landowner interest. And secondly, also making sure that Texas has the infrastructure needed to support its continued growth. And I think you saw some of that echoed by the lieutenant governor. And obviously, we want to make sure that the PUCT process, and Allen and his team will participate. I know it's been a very high focus for Allen is making sure that we're being inclusive of all the different voices that have a stake in the outcome here. And if I could, Allen, maybe you could provide a little bit more commentary on where you see the 765 process going from here?
E. Nye
executiveYes, sure, Jeff. Thanks, Steve. I think the way we're thinking about the 765 issue right now is, obviously, there was a hearing on the 29 that lasted like 15 hours, followed by the statements issued by Chairman [indiscernible] and Lieutenant Governor [ Mattrick. ] And as Jeff said, overall, there's kind of 2 key themes that we're seeing. One, I think, state leaders, something appropriately responding to the landowner concerns. And two, I believe clear affirmation that Texas needs a reliable grid and more investment. So that's a balance that we've been working hard on to strike across all four of our Permian import projects. Just to give you some examples, we mail noticed over 12,000 landowners more than required by the PUC rules. We may have noticed over 11 -- I'm sorry, 1,000 elected officials. We filed 529 unique routes. We added 110 link segments in direct response to public feedback, and we had 16 days of hearings. At this point, the -- so State Office of Administrative Hearings, judges have issued PFDs in 3 of our 4 dockets. We expect the fourth to come sometime in mid-August, those post orders now go to the PUC. The PDC can accept them, they can deny them, they can modify them, or they can request more evidence. We're hopeful that given the significant reliability needs in the Permian, the PDC can reach a timely resolution of those dockets. But whatever they decide, we're committed to, and we look forward to working collaboratively with our regulators, the impacted landowners. Obviously, our state officials to advance a reliable grid that meets the needs of Texas and our customers while protecting landowner rights. So as Jeff said, we remain constructive.
Steven Fleishman
analystOkay. And one follow-up or I guess an unrelated follow-up. Just any sense on how things are developing on the California wildfire liability legislation and related, obviously, issues and just your confidence on something constructive getting done there.
Jeffery Martin
executiveYes. Thanks for asking that question, Steve. I mean I think one of the things that really resonates with me is the central focus for policymakers in the state, I think, are focused on the right thing. The key theme here is livability. And I think people recognize when you think about the white paper from the utilities, the feedback from the CPUC the report that was provided by the earthquake Authority. I think it really recognizes, Steve, that the status quo doesn't work, and if we're going to get at this issue of livability, you've got to be willing to address a larger ecosystem of related considerations. And I'll offer a few to you, one of which is there's a big focus in this legislative session on ensuring that housing is more accessible and more affordable that we take steps to create a more vibrant insurance marketplace that there are steps taken an active considerations to put new safeguards in place to mitigate risk to our families and kind of addressing that entire ecosystem, I think there's a lot of focus on making sure that providers of utility services remain financially strong. So the focus, Steve, here needs to be on good public policy for the state of California and getting at the heart of the livability issue. And if you look at some of the reports that have come out from both Moody's and S&P, they clearly are focused on making sure that some type of legislation comes out that avoids utilities move into a higher rate environment and continues to allow California to be economically competitive. So I would conclude by saying I think Governor [ Newsom ] and the leadership of both houses deserve a ton of credit. They're very much actively working on this issue. This is clearly, Steve, not an easy task, but I continue to believe that the right people are focused on the right set of issues, and I continue to believe that we'll see solid progress during this legislative session. I'll stop there and see if you want to ask additional questions.
Operator
operatorOur next question will come from David Arcaro from Morgan Stanley.
David Arcaro
analystOne thing I wanted to get a little bit of elaboration on was your large load pipeline in ERCOT, let me see. So I guess, as I'm just thinking about -- you've updated the the overall interconnection queue here to 298 gigawatts at Oncor. I think last quarter, you had mentioned 127 gigawatts of advanced pipeline. And now you've got the, obviously, drilling down further into the batch zero at 44 gigawatts. So I guess I'm just looking for a little bit of help to understand the relationship there. Is there still a very big advanced pipeline of realistic data centers, when could those come in? And how do you kind of frame that up in the context of batch zero?
Jeffery Martin
executiveThank you for the question. I'll make a couple of comments and pass it to Allen. But the way I would think about it is all across the United States, it doesn't matter whether you're in PJM, or you're in the call is you're in ERCOT. We, as a nation, are struggling with ways to address issues around being short or net short dispatchable generation. We're addressing ways that we can see large load customers come on to the system and ways that we can meet that growth and make sure that we can allocate costs to protect the residential consumer. So frame this, David, as a starting point, is a national issue. What I think is exciting is there is a clear signal that Texas is open for business. One of the things that there's strong alignment on across the legislature and the executive branch is they want to continue to advance the Texas Miracle. And that comes back to the batch process that's being led by ERCOT. Think about a situation where you've got close to 500 gigawatts of generation on the sideline, waiting to come on the system and similarly over 400 gigawatts of large load customers. That batch process is intended to sequence generation with large loads. So over time, it will be a sequencing effect that's intended to balance what we think is going to be remarkable load growth. Now here's the issue, getting the process right is really important, it's complex. And you've seen a lot of different voices participate in the process. I think the long-term story for Oncor will continue to get better. This state is focused on the right issues. And I heard someone I had a conversation recently with the CEO of the U.S. Chamber, who made a comment, David, that really resonated with me, is you may not be able to solve all the problems in this country with higher economic growth, but you can't solve any problems without it. And I think Texas recognizes that. And I think there's a lot of goodwill being spent, making sure that we have the right framework to allow folks to invest the capital needed to meet the needs of stakeholders. If you could, Allen, you mind walking through kind of where you're at with your queue and how you see it unfolding.
E. Nye
executiveYes. Sure, Jeff. Thanks, David. I think you got the numbers right. I mean we had 44 gigawatts in our service territory that's presently in the batch zero process. You referenced the [ 127.5 ] from the last call. The relationship between those two numbers, the [ 127.5 ] was what we had in our RTP submission versus the 44 in the batch zero. The delta there is that the batch zero rules were finalized in June. There are different set of rules than the RTP submission rules. Batch required things like finalization of studies, posting financial security of 50,000 megawatt, attestations of site control and contracting resources, things like that. So that's the difference between the 127.5 and the 44. Regarding your question about, is there are a lot still out there, obviously, you also referenced the 298. Total overall queue, I think, we were at 283 last time. And then I will break you to think in our earnings release, we talked about some of our growth numbers. But the answer to your question is yes, is there more out there. Total active requests year-to-date for transmission POIs is up 15%. LC&I minus data centers, new requests are up 8% quarter over same quarter last year and active were up about 22% quarter '26 -- second quarter '26 versus second quarter '25. So we continue to have really strong growth, really strong interest. And yes, there is more out there.
David Arcaro
analystExcellent, yes. I appreciate that. And then relatedly, I just wanted to clarify the additional batch zero capital investment opportunities in terms of when you could frame that up and quantify it. Is that something that comes after April of 2027 next year? Is it something we could get midyear in terms of the timing just as ERCOT goes through the batch process?
Jeffery Martin
executiveThank you, David. I think you got the time line correct. We obviously will look to update Sempra's roll forward 5-year plan as well as Oncor's on the Q4 call. And I think in my prepared remarks, we talked about the fact that we think that visibility into additional capital that we required to support the batch process as it moves forward in the information we get after that. I think we'll have to revisit how we can continue to be as transparent as possible following Q4, but we're excited to bring those additional numbers to you at the right time.
Operator
operatorAnd our next question comes from Nicholas Campanella from Barclays.
Nicholas Campanella
analystI just wanted to ask if we could be a little bit more clear just on the batch process, just the actual next steps. To my understanding, there's a good cause exception requested the PUCT, and do you guys think that, that gets acknowledged and then we just kind of keep moving along with the prior schedule? Or are we kind of on pause until we get past November election and any thoughts from Oncor if we could see additional legislation in the next session around those two would be helpful.
Jeffery Martin
executiveYes. I'll make a couple of comments, and Allen, I appreciate if you do as well. I think one of the things we've made clear on this call, and I know you're on top of this, Nick, but is we've laid out a path here, we think we feel good about the base capital plan at Oncor. We've got improving confidence in the additional capital opportunities. And certainly, we think there will be a big backlog of new capital opportunities that fall outside of both of those two first buckets. As this goes forward, I mean we're seeing strong leadership, I think, from Governor Abbott. The PUCT has obviously taken up the issue as well. And I think as it goes forward, we'll have more visibility to it in the next few months. But Allen, maybe talk about what your expectations are for the process being firmed up and whether you think there'll be potential legislation would be helpful.
E. Nye
executiveYes, you bet. Hi, Nick. I think the way we're thinking about it is, obviously, Governor Abbott issued his letter on August 3, calling for the comprehensive verification and audit of all the data centers before they can interconnect. The immediate impact is I think exactly the way you described it, ERCOT previously was going to notify TDSPs on August 7 of the loads that could potentially be in batch zero and now ERCOT apparently intends to consult with the PUC on next step and seek approval for a good cause exception related to the batch zero time line process at the August 20 PUC open meeting. So you've really been focused on August 20 as being the next big event where we may learn more about what's going to go on. The only other thing I would say is, it's also our perspective that these projects that we're going to make it into batch zero were always subject to a validation process to ensure that they met the criteria of the new rules. And with the comprehensive audit moving to the front end, effectively reordering the prior process, we think it will benefit the process by allowing more participation on the front end and lead potentially to a more durable framework on the back end. That's probably what we know right now.
Jeffery Martin
executiveYes, I think that's a really good point, too, is the way this is being structured, it's almost like a reordering of existing process. And I think it's designed, I think, thoughtfully by the governor, to make sure that there's more input on the front end. So if we get to a more durable framework on the back end, Nick, I think that's a win for everyone in the process.
Nicholas Campanella
analystThat makes a lot of sense. And thanks for sharing those thoughts. And then I guess just coming back to the questions on California legislation. I know that there's been a wide discussion that this is a wider than -- more than utilities type problem for the state, right? And everyone has to bring something to the table. Just how do we kind of think about you guys are drawing the line on maybe trading things like future contributions to Phase 2 fund.
Jeffery Martin
executiveSure. I'll make a couple of comments here and then I'll pass it to Caroline Winn, Nick, who runs California. But in my earlier remarks on today's call, I think it was really important that for Sempra, and other participants in the market to frame us correctly. And I think for us to see successful legislation, it really goes through making sure it's focused primarily on public policy and improved livability, right? So as you think about the utility side of it, I think this is less about pushing for a "utility Bela bill." This is more about making sure that everyone's joined around the exercise of improving the environment for California families. And I think an output from that will be there's a lot of benefit to California families when load serving entities are financially healthy. So I think that will be important. In terms of the legislation itself, we have been active. We're working through all the various constituencies. I've been very pleased with the leadership of the state, and I really feel great about the role that [ Governor Newsom ] is playing. I think it's a little bit premature for us to front-run the process without having the text of a bill, Nick, in front of us. So I think it's important not to pass judgment there. And we look at the totality of the bill and the benefits to the entire list of stakeholders before we weigh in on any bright lines around what we might be expecting. But Caroline, I know you've done a lot of work in this area. Could you add some additional color for Nick's benefit?
Caroline Winn
executiveSure, happy to. Hi, Nick. We are encouraged by not only the ongoing dialogue, but importantly, the range of solutions that are being discussed. And I'm pleased with the broad recognition that California would benefit from a more durable wildfire framework. That said, I'll agree with Jeff, that it's premature to assess any specific proposal until there's actual bill language for us to evaluate and clear understanding of how it would operate as part of the broader package. But count on us to continue to engage constructively over the last three weeks of session, but we don't want to get ahead of the process. And I'll just end with this, that our focus remains unchanged, that we're going to operate the system safely will execute on our wildfire mitigation plans, maintain financial discipline and invest in the system in a way that supports customers communities and long-term shareholder value. We'll evaluate any legislation against those principles, and we'll be able to communicate our assessment at the appropriate time.
Jeffery Martin
executiveThanks, Caroline. And Nick, I'll just conclude, and I made the comment before that a lot of people have sought us out and asked for their views on this. And I think the thing I keep coming back to is, and I think I've been pretty clear, I'm constructive. I actually think we're going to get some solid legislation in this session, and I'm really pleased with the leadership that we're hearing from key folks. I don't want to get ahead of the process. Caroline is absolutely right. There's a long way to go. We want to see the text language. It's a very complicated exercise. But the reason I'm constructive is, I think it's the right thing for the state. I think it's the right thing for livability. I think it's the right thing to improve affordability. And when you line it up around what's right from a public policy standpoint, then it becomes just a good old-fashioned leadership challenge, and I'm pleased with the people that are stepping forward to address it in Sacramento.
Operator
operatorAnd our next question will come from Julien Dumoulin-Smith from Jefferies.
Julien Dumoulin-Smith
analystSorry to disappoint, but [indiscernible] for joining today [indiscernible] taking the time to.
Jeffery Martin
executiveNo worries. Thank you.
Julien Dumoulin-Smith
analystJust -- I know a lot has been asked for it. Just on the the good old transmission side of the business kind of the earlier-stage projects. Any view on timing changes on some of these certificate of convenience and necessity approvals just related to what's going on, or would you describe things as on track?
Jeffery Martin
executiveYes. I would try -- I would describe things as on track, and I'll pass it to Allen. But let me just make a quick point you may find helpful, Paul. Oncor's base capital plan is $47.5 billion. They only have about $5 billion of that base capital program that's focused on 765 import pathways related to the Permian. I think Allen and Don have enough flexibility in their capital program to adjust the timing and sequencing of those projects that they need to. We continue to feel good about Oncor's 5-year capital plan and look forward to looking -- coming back in Q4 to update you on how we might grow that going forward. But Allen, on the specific issue of where you're at with CCNs, you feel like things are on track, and we will add additional color for Paul's benefit.
E. Nye
executiveYes. I don't have much to add. I'll simply say, I take [ Chairman Warner ] and [ Lieutenant Governor Patrick's ] statements very seriously. We intend to work with landowners and work through this process. Just right now, it's so recent. I don't have really a very good understanding or belief about what's going to happen, what time lines could change or what I think we're just wait and see.
Julien Dumoulin-Smith
analystOkay. No, understood. And then one follow-up on the batch zero. You mentioned the 8 gigawatts of kind of load that's already process. If you could elaborate that a little bit. Does that require capital to go? Is that kind of in that upside to the upside capital bucket as well? If you could help on that 8 gigawatt scope?
Jeffery Martin
executiveYes. I think when you think about that 44 gigawatts that we've identified in today's call, the reason we called out that 8 gigawatts is that's projects that have moved forward, and they're already interconnected. So all it's pointing to is, the customers that have been interconnected, their overall utilization is not at the 8 gigawatt level. They're already connected and their load is expected to increase over time to 8 gigawatts. And the reason that's important, and I think we called this out, it shows that, that load growth is not just a prospective opportunity. It's something that's coming on to Oncor system currently.
Operator
operatorAnd our next question will come from Richard Sunderland from Truist Securities.
Richard Sunderland
analystSticking with some of the Oncor upside CapEx seems very clear on the batch zero sequencing relative to your 4Q update. Do you speak to other opportunities that could fall into the upside bucket on that 4Q update presumably, there's things like the SRP that would remain in there. But just trying to think about other things that might translate into upside that aren't currently being discussed right now.
Jeffery Martin
executiveThank you for the question, Richard. We outlined how we thought about the upside opportunity for Oncor on our Q4 call. That might be something that you go back and reference. But in our current materials, if you look at Slide 4, we're talking about the $47.5 billion base capital plan that we announced 4 months ago. And you can see that we've articulated the three buckets that form what we've referred to as the $10 billion incremental capital opportunity. That's $4 billion associated with these recently endorsed DSW projects billion associated with non-Permian 765 projects. And then you referenced it correctly, they do expect to make a system resiliency and filing next year. They've earmarked about $3 billion of capital for that. That number can move around a little bit. And to your point, there may be other opportunities that come to us before we announce this next February. But I think we're quite constructive on those two buckets together, the $47.5 million and also this $10 billion opportunity. And I think, Richard, one of the key things we've taken a lot of questions on since our last call, with how this batch process fit into our current plan. And I think it's been a real clear takeaway for us that the batch process is clearly an incremental opportunity beyond the $47.5 billion and beyond the $10 billion of aside capital they have, the challenge will be, as that process unfolds, we don't think we'll have a lot more definition on the batch-related capital until later in 2027.
Richard Sunderland
analystGot it. I'll just, I guess, ask the question in a different way. So is the $10 billion that you currently call out is on for upside, kind of what you're working with? And then some of that presumably translates into base on that 4Q update and then the remainder stays as upside, or do you see other opportunities and programs that may backfill whatever moves in the base?
Jeffery Martin
executiveWell, I appreciate the clarification. Let me go back a little bit because I think that the past is prologue here. If you go back and look at where we were in February of 2025, at the 100% level, Oncor had a $36 billion capital program and had about $12 billion of upside opportunities. Through the year, they continue to work on that pipeline by the time they got to February of this year, they took the $36 billion and the $12 billion and announced a brand-new base capital plan of $47.5 billion. And then Richard, they re-upped that opportunity bucket back to $10 billion. And I think that is probably something like that is what we expect. We expect to see all or portions of the $10 billion get rolled into the $47.5 billion. And I'm quite confident that Don and Allen will come back with a very large upside beyond that. That's what we'll cover on the February call.
Operator
operatorAnd our next question will come from Anthony Crowdell from Mizuho.
Anthony Crowdell
analystJust I guess one high-level question on Texas and then 1 on the balance sheet. Just -- Steve had talked earlier about the 765 maybe delays in some of the news we're hearing there. We're talking about delays in the batch zero process. Is it the same issue there of nimbyism? Just -- it seems the timing of both of them happening or the news we've seen in the last three weeks have just reached a peak. Is it the same issue that's going on in ERCOT?
Jeffery Martin
executiveLook, I think I'll look at it, Anthony, like that all across this country, there's a variety of elections taking place in November. There's a big focus on affordability. It doesn't matter whether you're a Republican or a Democrat or an independent. We're looking for ways to release pressure on American families. I think Texas is not immune from that. Obviously, there's a process going forward where we're doing things at scale, Anthony, that have never been done before. And if it's going to happen, it's going to happen in the state of Texas. So I think there's an uncommon electricity demand growth opportunity. And I think there's an uncommon associated capital opportunity. And I think a lot of people of goodwill are at the table in [ Austin, ] trying to make sure that we've got the right process. And I think Allen has struck the right tone. What we want to do is make sure that we're supportive of the process. We're there to make sure that we can address some of the needs of stakeholders. And if the outcome is, it takes a little bit longer to make the process better for everybody, and we end up with a durable framework I think it's great for the state of Texas and make in the long run. We continue to have an increasingly bullish view for Oncor.
Anthony Crowdell
analystGreat. And then I could pivot, Slide 11, you talk about Moody's, you're BAA2 with a negative outlook if my memory serves me correct, they went to a negative outlook back in January of 2025. Just curious if there's any timing on when they revisit it or any data points they're looking for to change out negative outlook.
Jeffery Martin
executiveYes. Thank you for that question. Obviously, the key issue for us at this point is working very closely with Justin and his team to close the KKR transaction which is on schedule for this quarter. And Karen, perhaps, you could talk about the value of that transaction also from a credit standpoint.
Karen Sedgwick
executiveSure. And thanks, Anthony. Yes, so the priority right now is getting the KKR transaction closed. And you'll recall, as part of our strategy, we worked closely with the rating agencies to improve the strength of our balance sheet. So it's going to help us improve our funding capacity really help us pay down some parent debt. So with the closing of the SI transaction, later this quarter, we expect to deconsolidate over [ $10 billion ] worth of debt off the balance sheet and seen improvement in those outlooks. And specifically, you asked about Moody's for that -- it's not only closing the SI transaction, deconsolidating, but they also were tracking the progress at the SI Projects. And in particular, they look for certain milestones, the one -- one of the ones they've chosen that's important as the pipe installation, which again Justin mentioned we're on track there. So we expect that to be where they want it close to the end of the year. So I think it will probably be early next year before they make the changes. But to be clear, we are meet with the rating agencies regularly, we're on track for what they expect us to do, and we're guided about being able to shore up the balance sheet. And on top of that, Jeff and I have talked about having an opportunity to really improve the balance sheet going forward and having cushion there of at least 50 to 150 basis points on average above those thresholds with those thresholds improving. So excited where this will take us.
Jeffery Martin
executiveSo I think that's a great point. I mean I think what you're seeing us do here, Anthony, is we've got an improving equity story. We're posting strong financial results both for the quarter and for the first half of the year, and we have definitely a proving credit story and balance sheet story. So we're looking to pull all that together in the second half of the year and obviously meet the expectations of our stakeholders on the credit side.
Operator
operatorAnd we do have time for one last question today. And our last question will come from Carly Davenport from Goldman Sachs.
Carly Davenport
analystI just had one follow-up on some of the commentary earlier on the call on California. Just as you think about the potential outcomes here, if you don't see any legislation move forward session. Is there anything that you could see changing about your GRC filing or any other parts of your investment strategy in California that we should be keeping in mind?
Jeffery Martin
executiveYes. Thank you, Carly. I would go back to some of the information we released in February. You recall that at the enterprise level, we're growing our utility platform at the enterprise level at about 11% annually. If you folded in the additional upside at Oncor, that number would be closer to 13%. As part of that portfolio of growth, California is now growing a little slower. We're growing rate base in California at about 5%. And I think we've got the right approach there in terms of making sure we meet the needs of the state in terms of safety and reliability, and there's a nod to affordability with that. I know this is a question that's come up both for Edison and [ PG&E ] or in a little bit different situation as I think we've got the opportunity to continue to execute our current capital plan. In terms of the legislation itself, I don't want to start speaking to hypotheticals without having the text in front of us. I remain constructive on legislation in state. And I think we've got our capital plan dialed in about the appropriate level of the future.
Operator
operatorThat concludes today's question-and-answer session. At this time, I'd like to turn the conference back to Jeff Martin for any additional closing remarks.
Jeffery Martin
executiveWell, let me conclude by thanking everyone for joining today. We certainly appreciate you making the time to join. Before signing off, I'd like to take a moment to congratulate Karen on her appointment as the incoming CEO of the Southern California Gas Company. And also Justin for his appointment is Sempra's incoming Chief Financial Officer. These are important rotational moves that reflect Sempra's long tradition of leadership development across our organization and we expect these rotations to become effective around the close of the SI Partners transaction, which we're targeting later this quarter. Finally, we hope to see many of you next week at the upcoming Citi Conference in Las Vegas. If there are any other follow-up items, please reach out to our IR team with your questions. This concludes our call.
Operator
operatorThank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.
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