Oportun Financial Corporation (OPRT) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
September 14, 2020
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Mark DeVries
analystOkay. Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us. I'm Barclays' consumer finance analyst, Mark DeVries, and I'm pleased to be joined by Oportun's CEO, Raul Vasquez. We'll be conducting a fireside chat, but we'll break it up with some polling with the audience and we'll also leave time for questions that come in from the audience during the session. [Operator Instructions]
Mark DeVries
analystBefore my first question for Raul, I'd like to lead off with a question for the audience. [Operator Instructions] First question for the audience, what factor do you view as most likely to determine whether Oportun outperforms over the next year: reaccelerating reoriginations, less volatile fair value marks, stable to only modestly worsening credit, successful expansion in the card and auto products or other? So as the audience responds to that, let's move on to the first question for Raul. I wanted to start with how Oportun has been managing through this crisis. Can you talk about the type of proactive measures you took at the start of this pandemic to tighten underwriting and the results from those efforts?
Raul Vazquez
executiveSure, Mark. So I believe we've managed through this crisis quite well due to our strong team and the technology platform we built, which allows us to make changes quickly. In terms of proactive measures, we really moved quickly with 2 goals in mind: the first was to tighten our underwriting [ and reflect ] the economic unemployment shocks that were taking place, while still allowing us to lend to customers who needed our helping and who we had confidence would be able to pay us back; and the second goal was ensuring that we could deliver good credit outcomes. To achieve those goals, we implemented changes to our underwriting criteria within 1 day of the shelter-in-place orders here in California. And we did that really quickly to reduce our exposure to the segments of the population that we believed would be most impacted by the pandemic. So specifically, we increased the weighting of industry and regional factors within our underwriting to reflect the employment dynamics; number two, we reduced the loan size by credit tier; and then we also took a third and fourth step, which were implementing more stringent employment verification procedures and also increasing the recency requirements for proof of income. And those things are factors and our considerations that we continue to adjust based on new data, now that we're 6 months into this pandemic. We certainly knew the tightening was going to reduce our originations. But first and foremost, we wanted to solve for credit quality. So as a result of the credit tightening as well as reduced demand that we were seeing, just as people were staying home more, originations fell 67% in the second quarter on a year-over-year basis, but our credit tightening was successful in driving first payment defaults for newly originated post-pandemic loans below the levels that we've seen before the pandemics and even before the levels that we saw last year. That strong credit performance has now given us confidence to increase approval rates, and we started with returning customers in the June time frame. We've now actually expanded that to new customers. And what we've seen, if you looked at the data that we released today, is loan originations in August are 140% higher than they were in April, that first month that really felt the impact of the pandemic. So those are examples of some of the actions that we took and that we took quickly and the results of those actions.
Mark DeVries
analystOkay. Well, those results may explain the response to the first question, let's say, people are looking more for reaccelerating originations than credit stability. So moving to the next question for the audience. What do you view as the biggest risk to the shares: low or flat originations, more volatile term value marks, materially worsening credit, regulatory risk or other? Next question for you, Raul. For context, can you give us some color on how Oportun loans performs during the 2008-2009 global financial crisis? And what sort of measures were implemented back then? And are there any learnings that can be applied to this crisis?
Raul Vazquez
executiveYes. We've been lending for 14 years, and we're really one of the few fintechs that was around back then in that crisis. And we performed well in that crisis, too. In the 2008 and 2009 recession, what we saw was our static pool net charge-offs increased by 37% from kind of the first 3 quarters of 2008 compared to the first 3 quarters in 2007. And really, what we did was we ran a very similar playbook. In fact, the playbook we have today is a playbook that was developed back then. So what we did was we tightened our lending criteria, we adjusted our loan amounts rapidly and then we implemented adjustments to both our servicing and our marketing efforts. And we're very fortunate, in fact, that the Chief Credit Officer that we have today is the person that drew up that playbook and executed it way back then. So what we saw was, in fact, not only were we able to bend the curve in terms of the 2008 results, but our 2009 vintage was one of our best-performing vintages despite the continued high unemployment rates that we saw as a country in 2009 and 2010. So we really think that, that experience helps shape the actions that we've taken today and has proven very useful. And the other thing that's helped us a lot is the technology platform that we have then allowed us to make those changes. But obviously, it's a lot more advanced now after 10 years of investment.
Mark DeVries
analystOkay. You may have already answered this question by indicating how strong your '09 vintage was, but any color for how your loans performed relative to peers during that period in other asset classes?
Raul Vazquez
executiveYes. Well, as I mentioned, the increase was about 37%. If you were to look at it as basis points, there was about 120 basis point increase year-over-year. And when we look back now and we know that, that compared very favorably even to some prime and super prime portfolios. And we really attribute that good performance to 2 things: number one is the technology that I've already talked about that let us make changes very quickly and in a very granular and precise manner, the second thing is the segment of the market that we serve. And I'll spend a little more time talking about the customer we serve. Our risk engine allows us to underwrite individuals who have little or no credit history, which means that they have not had a lot of access to capital. And as a consequence, they weren't over-levered then, and that's been true now, right? And that means that our customer really values the capital access that we provide. And as a consequence, they make it a priority to pay us back. We also know that our customers are very hard working, very responsible and very resilient so even if they do lose their jobs, they're very quick to look for and secure another job even in a recession. So that was true then. That was what we saw then, and that's what's given us so much confidence to continue to focus on this segment of the market. And we've been proven right again because the customers again demonstrated their resilience during the pandemic and this recession.
Mark DeVries
analystOkay. Turning back to this crisis, as you've alluded to, credit performance so far has been more benign than we expected. For sure, most of you all expected at the beginning of this crisis. What do you attribute that to? Is it the stimulus measures that were put in place? Your customer assistance programs? Or anything else you'd like to call out?
Raul Vazquez
executiveWell, we definitely believe that the stimulus efforts have been helpful. They've helped our customers either maintain a certain level of income or potentially put a little bit of extra money in their pockets. But we attribute the bulk of our credit results or good credit results to the emergency hardship programs that we offer to our customers and that resilience that I mentioned earlier. So let me talk a little bit about the emergency hardship programs that we put in place. When the crisis began, we started offering our customers Emergency Hardship Deferrals, and we did it 1 month at a time. So that gave them a month to not make payments and be able to get on to their feet or a stronger financial footing. And what we did was really, we give them that month and then we get in contact with them before the month was over to ascertain their current circumstances. Our collections efforts, whether it was before the pandemic or during the pandemic, have always been focused on getting in contact with the customer, understanding their situation and then figuring out the best approach for them and for us, since our performance is really driven by good customer performance on their loans. So we get in touch with them and we try to figure out what's happening and what's going to maximize their chances of being successful with their loan. So when we talk to our customers, most of our customers return to making their regular payments after their deferral. Some of them wanted to return to payments, but they couldn't do it maybe because they lost some hours. So what we would do is offer them a reduced payment plan. And then we had other customers that were -- it was the minority of customers, but they were still being impacted by the pandemic, and they needed another month of deferral. So we think the strategy of doing it a month at a time, getting in contact with our customers understanding what was happening, and then if necessary, giving them another month has been very effective because it's allowed them to get back on their feet and to get back making payments. And if you look at the numbers that we reported from a delinquency perspective and the percentage of customers in deferrals, which has come down quite a bit, that really demonstrates the success that we've had.
Mark DeVries
analystOkay. What sort of industries are represented by your customer base? Can you talk about a little bit more about the resiliency of your customers to the crisis as a result of where they may they seek employment?
Raul Vazquez
executiveSure. Our customer base is quite large. At the end of Q2, we mentioned that we had 600 -- over 675,000 active customers, really spanning from the West Coast all the way to the East Coast. As such, we believe that our customers really are employed by a representative and diverse set of industries. So you could think of it as retail, as construction, hospitality, agriculture, janitorial and more, really, any industry that employs low to moderate-income individuals. So the good news is that because it was a diverse set, we weren't hit as hard as, say, if we had only been focused on hospitality or retail, but we recognize that the pandemic was having a disproportionate impact on some of those industries. And that's why, as I mentioned earlier, we increased the weighting of the factors of the industry and even region because we know some regions like Florida are more dependent on tourism. And by increasing that weighting, we were able to make very specific adjustments that we knew would produce good credit outcomes. Again, we also know that our customer is very resilient. And one thing that we've learned is our customer's willing to be very pragmatic and to put food on the table, they'll even shift from thinking of their employment as a career and thinking of it as more as a job, and they'll shift into a new industry if that's where jobs are available. And we do know that there are still jobs available in this economy. They just may be in a different industry. So we've seen our customers move into those industries. And again, finally, because they've not had a lot of access to credit and don't have many outstanding obligations, we know that that's also allowed them to be very resilient and to be able to pay their obligation, which, again, generally is to us.
Mark DeVries
analystOkay. You already spoke about some of the strategies around deferrals. Any color you can provide on just the level of activity and how that's trended?
Raul Vazquez
executiveOne of the things, and I'll refer back to the question that you asked the audience, we are focused on a return to growth, and we think we're doing it now from a position of strength. And one of the reasons that we've got that confidence is when we look at our Emergency Hardship Deferrals, what we saw was a peak really at the last week of April, in which we hit about 14.6% from a deferrals percentage. And since that peak, we've seen our deferrals now decline to 2.8% of the portfolio, which was a number we just announced as of the end of August. So as our customers have come out of deferral, we're seeing them return to payment -- to repayment, which means that our delinquencies have also declined to the levels that are below the pre-pandemic levels, indicating again that our customers are getting back on their feet, and that's giving us confidence to really drive growth again. And as I mentioned earlier, when we look at our August relative to April, what we've seen is our originations now are 140% of the level that we saw in April, and that's giving us the confidence to keep increasing approval rates back to the levels that we were seeing pre pandemic.
Mark DeVries
analystOkay. And any updates you can provide us on what kind of behavior you're seeing from borrowers as they come out of deferral?
Raul Vazquez
executiveWe're seeing them get back to payment, by and large. So we're really pleased with the level of payments that we've seen. And that's both payments online through our mobile capabilities and what we offer online but also in our retail locations. We spent a lot of time and effort working with our retail team to ensure that our facilities, our locations, we had over 330 at the end of Q2, could stay open, could be safe for our employees, could be safe for our customers. And we've always believed that for our customer, a physical presence is important, and we saw that even during the pandemic. Even during shelter-in-place orders, 30% of our payments were still coming from customers who were leaving their homes, putting on masks and coming into our location to make a payment. So we think that our strategy of having multiple channels has served us well in terms of getting our customers to be able to pay back.
Mark DeVries
analystOkay. Great. Turning back to the audience for a question, a view. Peak credit card or receivable charge-offs this cycle will be 9% to 10%, 10% to 11%, 11% to 12% or 12-plus percent? Next question for Raul. What's your appetite here to offer an additional round of deferrals for your customers if there is continued stress in the labor markets and they need additional assistance?
Raul Vazquez
executiveWell, I mean, given the performance we've seen so far, we feel that our strategy has been very effective in helping our customers return to repayment status. So both from a business perspective, it makes sense, and from a mission perspective, we always want to help our customers create good outcomes. So we're very comfortable giving additional rounds of deferrals, if needed, because of the good outcomes that we've seen, both from a business perspective and consistency with our mission.
Mark DeVries
analystOkay. There was a slide in your earnings presentation that shows first payment defaults on post-pandemic loans are actually lower than pre-pandemic loans. Can you help investors understand kind of what's driving that?
Raul Vazquez
executiveYes. So as you just described, we know that the credit tightening that we did in March has been effective because the percentage of customers who don't make their first payment has come down, below the levels that we saw in the February cohorts and below the levels we saw last year. So those efforts that we undertook to tighten our underwriting criteria very quickly in mid-March really are what's driven that down. We don't need our levels nor do we want our levels to be that low. So that's really what's given our Chief Credit Officer a confidence, and we've approved it and our Board has approved it to really lean back into growth because we agree with the audience that given those levels, we demonstrated the ability to underwrite even in these conditions, and we can get back to driving growth.
Mark DeVries
analystOkay. Can you talk more about the sort of metrics or variables you look at when you're underwriting loans to a thin file or a no file? And how those measures change post the start of the pandemic?
Raul Vazquez
executiveSo our risk engine is really sophisticated. Every time that we rebuild a version of our risk model, we evaluate over 10,000 data signals. So there really aren't 1 or 2 dominant variables that we rely on either in good times or in challenging times. Our risk engine is 100% centralized and 100% automated, and it uses 3 independent frameworks to make a decision. The first one is what we refer to as our alternative data score or ADS score. And that's based solely on information that is not in the credit bureaus. This is what allows us to be able to underwrite the invisible, the credit-invisible customer. And that's part of the reason why, again, we can give credit to someone who's not had a lot of access, and therefore, why we're a priority when they want to make a payment. So that ADS score is really, really valuable. The second is a proprietary bureau score, and that's more predictive than the commercially available bureau scores for our thin file customers. And then the last framework that we use is an ability to pay framework that's based upon verified framework. It's focused on a verified income from our customers. So we take these 3 frameworks, and you can think of them as created a very granular set of nodes in which we can make a risk decision of saying, "Do we want to lend to this customer at this node? And if so, how much do we want to lend?" So when the shelter-in-place orders went into effect in March, we quickly tightened our credit by increasing the minimum score cutoffs. So in some cases, we turned off some of these nodes, and even in the nodes where we continue to lend, what we did was on a node-by-node basis, with great precision, we decreased the amount of lending that we were willing to do at that node, so we could drive those first payment defaults down and give ourselves confidence that the underwriting engine would work during the pandemic. Additionally, because we knew that the pandemic, as I mentioned earlier, was having a disproportionate impact on certain industries and therefore, certain regions, we also made adjustments based on that industry and regional weighting in our scorecards to, again, have even more precise lending decisions taking place. So that's what we did initially, Mark. You asked what have we done since the start of the pandemic. What we've done is we've really looked at those first payment defaults, and we've looked at delinquencies in that post-pandemic portfolio to now figure out in what cases could we modify some of that employment verification, in what cases could we ease back a little bit on some of those recency requirements for income. And we did that in a test and a challenger methodology so that, that way we'd be able to have test and control. And based on that, we've been able to make adjustments and again, drive those approval rates up. So that's really kind of the focus at the beginning of the pandemic and adjustments we've made since the beginning.
Mark DeVries
analystOkay. Great. With expanded unemployment benefits ending over a month ago, have you noticed any change yet in payment behavior or credit?
Raul Vazquez
executiveWe haven't so far, our credit trends so far continue to trend very positively over the last month. As I mentioned earlier, the -- at the end of August, our deferrals had fallen to 2.8% of the portfolio, and our 30-plus day delinquencies were 3.5%. So we really feel that even with the incremental unemployment benefits ending at the end of July, most of our customers have emerged from deferral and delinquency status and return to repayment.
Mark DeVries
analystOkay. What's your outlook on credit? If we don't get another round of stimulus that extends some of those benefits, would you eventually expect to see that sort of to weigh on credit here?
Raul Vazquez
executiveWell, for us, it looks like we're such an adaptable species, and people are just getting used to kind of the new normal, if you will, now that we're 6 months in. So across the country, it appears that the economy continues to reopen, unemployment is showing, although slow, it's showing improvement. So both of those facts, we think, are encouraging. So from where we sit, the customer behavior of our borrowers shows increasing demand. We're starting to see now a higher level of applications relative to what we saw in April and in May. And the improvement in payment metrics is also giving us that confidence to increase approval rates. So when we think about our credit performance, which, again, is a product of our agile technology, it's a product of how responsive we were to the environment, it reflects the resilience of our customers. When we look at all of these things, plus the economic trends improving overall, we expect normalization of our credit performance. So even with a nonrenewal of government stimulus, we don't see really a significant impact on our portfolio in the next 12 to 18 months.
Mark DeVries
analystOkay. Although -- based on what's embedded in your reserves, what should we expect in terms of charge-offs over the next 12 to 18 months?
Raul Vazquez
executiveWell, we're not guiding right now, but what we would hope investors would see in our numbers is that we see the trends continue to improve and that they see when they look at our originations that we're confident in the ability of the risk engine to make good decisions. Over the last few quarters, when we've also disclosed what we expect the losses to be in the portfolio, which is part of our fair value calculation, those expected losses have also declined. So we're cautiously optimistic, Mark.
Mark DeVries
analystOkay. Great. See, turning to the last question that we have of the audience. Over the next year, would you expect your position at Oportun to increase, decrease or remain the same? Turning back to Raul. As you get more confident of underwriting loans and expanding the credit box here, how do you think about balancing, returning to growth and managing risk in this environment?
Raul Vazquez
executiveSo the balance is really important to us. And as I mentioned earlier, at the beginning of the pandemic, first and foremost, we were focused on credit quality. Now as we enter kind of the 6-plus month point, we look at our first payment defaults, and that gives us a lot of confidence that we're underwriting very well post pandemic. And that's got us now focused much more on returning to growth because we think we can do it from a position of strength and a position of confidence given the credit results that we're seeing. So I think as the audience pointed out in the response to question #1, and we agree, we think we can return to growth with quite a bit of confidence. And that's what we're seeing. If you look at the month-over-month improvements, May was better than April, and that's continued all the way through August. By the way, Mark, what was the answer -- because I can't see the answers to the polls. What was the answer to question #2?
Mark DeVries
analyst#2.
Raul Vazquez
executiveI don't know if you can see that.
Mark DeVries
analystI think I already advanced from it, but I think it was -- people are more -- I think from a positive catalyst, people were more excited about turning to loan growth. I think from a risk perspective, it's all about credit. And I think [ that's where ] responses were. And I just -- the response about peak charge-offs. Everyone responded to either the -- to the 2 lowest charge-off totals. So it seems like there's a fair amount of bullishness relative to those options. I just wanted to talk about strategy longer term. You recently entered into a partnership with DolEx to expand your presence. Can you talk more about the relationship there, your rationale for doing the partnership and what you expect to gain from it?
Raul Vazquez
executiveSure. So when we think about the market that we seek to serve, we estimate that there are 100 million people who either don't have a score or are not being scored correctly by the bureaus. So from both a mission perspective in terms of wanting to help create a better future and from a business perspective, we feel that there's always been a desire on our part to grow and to grow quickly, while, again, creating good credit outcomes. So the thing that is so exciting to us and the purpose of the DolEx partnership is to really figure out how can we make Oportun-originated, funded and serviced loans available to consumers at DolEx corporate locations. And we're going to start the rollout in Q4. DolEx, as some of the people in the audience may know that they're a leader in retail financial services. And they have a network that includes over 400 retail locations, corporate retail locations in the U.S. So the thing that's really exciting for us is our strategy is to offer our product through as many channels as are convenient to our customers. So as you know, we can do full end-to-end mobile originations, and that's proven very valuable, and more customers have been using that since the beginning of the pandemic. But as I mentioned earlier, we also have customers that want to deal with us in person. And the exciting part about DolEx is at the end of Q2, we had 334 locations, the DolEx partnership has the potential to take us from 300-plus locations to over 700 locations and doing it in an asset-light way. Because in those locations, we're not going to staff them with an Oportun employee and we're leveraging our technology platform to be able to offer access to our loans through an iPad. So it's very asset light, it's going to be balance sheet friendly, right, because we're not going to have the investments in our locations either. So neither staff nor our physical locations. So really, that increase in points of distribution, we think, can be another driver of growth. The other thing we did this morning was we updated our investor presentation. One of the things we called out is in our omnichannel strategy, adding partners as one of the channels that we're very focused on because this partnership with DolEx is giving us confidence now that we can extend our technology platform to work with even more partners in the future and drive more growth in this asset-light way by really providing our loans through the networks of other partners, whether it's physical networks or online distribution.
Mark DeVries
analystOkay. And how do you manage the risk of that when you're kind of ceding a certain amount of control in the distribution of your product?
Raul Vazquez
executiveThat's a great question. We have absolute confidence that we can manage the risk because it is the exact same underwriting engine that is evaluating that customer. So the way to think about distribution for us is there are nodes on the network. Even our own physical locations, there's no one in that physical location who is actually underwriting the customer. All they're doing is gathering data that goes into the application, all of that data then goes back to our risk engine, which is a 100% centralized and 100% automated and then a credit decision is sent back to the agent to deliver to the customer. So in DolEx, it's actually not even happening to -- it's not even happening via the DolEx employee, it's happening through that iPad that I described earlier that's leveraging our mobile capabilities. So that customer that's going to come in through DolEx is going to provide their information via the iPad, all of that goes back to our risk engine, the risk engine makes a decision and communicates it back to the customer on that iPad. So that's what gives us confidence that we can underwrite is -- it's the exact same underwriting decision and engine that we've been talking about for the last few minutes.
Mark DeVries
analystYes. I was thinking less about the underwriting risk, because I get this that you guys are centralized, and more around the risk that the DolEx employees may not be communicating to these customers about the product, about -- in the same way that your people in your Oportun locations might to ensure that like this is an appropriate product for the customer, they understand it. How do you think about that? And is there a training that has to occur or other kind of things you can put in place to manage that risk?
Raul Vazquez
executiveYes. There are a few things. Thank you for asking that clarifying question. There are a few things that are going to help address that. Number one, there will be training. So that will be part of the rollout that will take place is we'll leverage some of the same training, the exact same training, to your point, that we use for our employees, and we're going to leverage some of the same trainers that train our own employees in terms of how do you answer questions, how do you present the product so that if someone asked a question of the employee, they'll be able to answer in a manner that is allowed by each of the states' regulations. So that's going to be a critical element. The second piece is, as I've mentioned, the capability on the iPad is really going to leverage mobile. And through our mobile interface, which is not assisted [indiscernible] 4 or 5-plus years of really working on the end-to-end mobile capability, we've gotten very good at how do you present the product, how do you present proactively some content that will address any concern or a place where the customer might get stuck in the process and even how do we create those little question mark bubbles that we all see online where a customer can click and they get more information, if that's what they seek. So there's going to be both the training to the agent and then there's going to be leveraging all the best practices that we've learned in 5-plus years of our end-to-end mobile solution.
Mark DeVries
analystOkay. How does this partnership with DolEx or any kind of innovations or improvements you've been making around your digital capabilities impact your branch strategy and expansion going forward?
Raul Vazquez
executiveWell, what it really allows us to do is to optimize our network. So we don't think this is going to be a question of or, it's going to be a question of and. So it's not doing DolEx or our locations. We think what we can do in a state like, say, Virginia, where we know DolEx has a presence and we don't today. When we get to the point of our rollout, where we start to lend in Virginia through our DolEx locations, we could start there and immediately have a much broader set of distribution points that we would have -- than we would have if it were our own locations. And then based on what we see, we can figure out where does it make sense for us to have locations. And maybe it will be fewer but larger locations so that we can service a larger book of business. And we can almost think of a hub-and-spoke where our locations could be a hub and then the DolEx locations or other partners that we would seek to have in the future could be those spokes. Or in a place like California, where we know they have a large network, or Texas, and we do too, we could then figure out what does their book of business look like in those locations, what does our book of business look like, could we maybe consolidate a few of our locations into a larger location that would be easier to service, easier to staff and where we can manage a bigger book of business. So that's really what's so exciting for us is we can optimize across our physical network, optimize also based on what we see in mobile and physical and do it in a way that allows us to do both, again, to drive as much profitable growth as quickly as possible.
Mark DeVries
analystOkay. Has this pandemic enabled you to get better at communicating with your customers digitally or kind of push them towards more of that behavior in a way that maybe and might be able to enable you to centralize more of the activity that might have otherwise occurred in the branch?
Raul Vazquez
executiveIt has allowed us to really advance our communication via digital and to innovate a lot more in those channels. So in our business, like every other business that had a digital channel, we've seen more customers start to use that, right? I think our customers are very responsible. And when shelter-in-place orders took place, the majority of them decided to not be on the road, to not visit physical locations, and they used our digital communication channels. In addition to that, Mark, a lot of our own employees recognized that as the usage of those went up that we needed to innovate and we needed to reduce friction even more in using those channels. So we did everything from allowing our customers to enroll in those monthly deferral programs that I talked about via text, where we asked: Have you been impacted by COVID? If so, reply, yes to start a deferral program. And they would just have to text back, write those 3 characters, and that would put them into the first program. And then we would seek to have that ongoing communication that I described earlier. So it's really been both things. It's been customers being more comfortable in wanting to use it, plus a lot more innovation that our engineers and our analysts were able to drive in those channels. And we think that's going to serve us even better in the future because of the [ efficiencies that come ] and the centralized element of those channels, including an SMS chatbot. So that was something that in a Hackathon, we'd add a team identify and start to play with that capability. We rolled it out in the last 6 months. And that's something that we're going to continue to invest in and that's going to serve us well in the future.
Mark DeVries
analystOkay. Great. Any updates you can provide on kind of expansion into more ancillary products like credit cards or auto, how those efforts are going?
Raul Vazquez
executiveYes. So strategically, in the same way that we're focused on having an ecosystem of channels, and we've added now partners to our channel ecosystem. As you know, we've been developing this ecosystem of products. So over the last 14 years, the bulk of our lending has been an unsecured consumer installment loan, that's still the bulk of the portfolio. But we have been focused on this ecosystem of products so that whether it's through mobile, our own locations or partner locations, we can offer a full suite of products, and we can drive incremental growth that way and meet the needs of our customers. So we're really pleased with the progress so far of credit card and auto. So let me start with credit card. We now offer the Oportun Visa Credit Card in 23 states. So we're actually now increasing our presence in more states, in fact, that we have our unsecured consumer installment loan. And we think that, that's a great way, first, to start the introduction of credit cards and build that credit card portfolio, but even to start to get customers comfortable with who we are as a company. So that later when we do come back, and offer our unsecured installment loan in those states, customers are already familiar with our brand and are more likely to convert. In terms of -- so really, really pleased with credit card, and they continue to really think about how are they going to get to as many of the 50 states as quickly as possible. In terms of auto, I mentioned in Q2 that based on the partnership with DolEx and some of the work that we needed to do, we prioritized that work ahead of the work for auto. So we pushed back our timetable for auto expansion for the time being. But I'm really, really pleased with the work that the team is doing. We've got a dedicated team that is focused on ensuring the product market fit with the offering that we have today. And they've made some nice advancements in the last few months to increase conversion and really just get higher pull through the funnel. So we continue to be very committed in auto. I know that they've got some work prioritized in Q4 and Q1. So overall, I am quite pleased with both credit card and with auto.
Mark DeVries
analystOkay. Great. Spend a couple minutes just talking about how you've set up the right side of your balance sheet and your funding and how much runway you have here to operate without access to capital markets?
Raul Vazquez
executiveYes. So we feel it's really important to have at least 12 months of liquidity runway. And in our Q2 earnings update, we reiterated the fact that we do continue to have 12-plus months of liquidity runway. One of the ways that we've always thought about the right side of the balance sheet is to have securitizations that have a revolving structure like credit cards, so that, that way, we could continue to fund new loans that we originate. And by doing that, we could really long fund the shorter, average-life assets. So that's been a critical part of our funding structure. We also have a $400 million warehouse line that is committed through October of 2021. So that gives us the opportunity and the ability to fund growth for a period of time. And then once we top that off or once it gets close to the $400 million, then what we do is we execute another securitization. So as our originations continue to increase with the nice trend that we're seeing and as our portfolio returns to growth, we'll look to reaccess the securitization market where our outstanding bonds today are currently trading at good prices.
Mark DeVries
analystOkay. Great. One last question from me on fair value marks, one thing that investors clearly have a trouble forecasting. Can you just remind us all some of the moving parts that go into those marks and how those variables have trended since quarter end?
Raul Vazquez
executiveYes. So to your point, it's been great to see more and more people understand all the drivers of fair value, but it can be a bit challenging to forecast it. So even in the last earning calls -- in the last set of earning calls at the end of Q2, we were really trying to drive the focus on 2 principal drivers: the first one is the credit performance of our loan portfolio, and then the second is the yield of our asset-backed bonds. So to fair value our loans, as I mentioned earlier, one of the things that we do is we estimate the remaining cumulative losses based upon the credit trends that we see on our portfolio, and this is very similar to what companies do to set their allowance for loan losses. So that's one of the critical drivers of fair value. The second is the yield on our asset-backed bonds, and it not only drives the fair value of our asset-backed bonds, but it also influences the calculation of the discount rate on our loans. So as our credit trends have been improving, and I did touch on this very briefly earlier, our remaining cumulative loss estimates have come down over the last few quarters, which increases the fair value of our loans, and that increases then our net revenue. So that's been a positive in terms of our fair value marks. As the asset-backed market has firmed up over the last few months, however, our bond yields have come down, that's a really good thing when we think about the long-term funding of our business, but it does create a dynamic where it decreases net revenue. The good news is that partially does offset. There is a partially offsetting element, which is the reduction in the discount rate of our loans, which increases the fair value of the loans. So those are the 2 primary elements, and there is a partial offsetting when it comes to the fair value marks every quarter.
Mark DeVries
analystOkay. Great. That was very helpful. I think we're out of time. Just like to thank you for all your time today and insights. We really appreciate it.
Raul Vazquez
executiveWell, thank you, Mark. It's nice to give an update on our business.
Mark DeVries
analystOkay. Thanks.
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