Ouster, Inc. (OUST) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

May 6, 2021

NASDAQ US Information Technology earnings 63 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Good afternoon. My name is Rebecca, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to Ouster's First Quarter Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] The call is being recorded, and a replay of the call will be available on the Ouster Investor Relations website an hour after the completion of this call. On the call today are Ouster's Chief Executive Officer, Angus Pacala; and Chief Financial Officer, Anna Brunelle. Before we begin the prepared remarks, we would like to remind you that Ouster has issued a press release announcing its first quarter 2021 financial results shortly after market close today. The company also published an investor presentation. You may access the materials on the Investor Relations section of ouster.com. I'd also like to remind everyone that during the course of this conference call, Ouster's management will discuss forecasts, targets and other forward-looking statements regarding the company's future customer orders and the company's business outlook that are intended to be covered by the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 for forward-looking statements. While these statements represent the management's current expectations and projections about future results and performance as of today, Ouster's actual results are subject to many risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from the -- from those expectations. In addition to any risks highlighted during this call, important factors that may affect Ouster's future results are described in its most recent SEC reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including today's earnings press release. Except as required by applicable law, the company undertakes no obligation to update any of these forward-looking statements for any reason after the date of this call. Lastly, information discussed on this call concerning the company's industry competitive position in the market in which it operates is based on information from independent industry and research organizations, other third-party sources and management estimates. Management estimates are derived from publicly available information released by independent industry analysts and other third-party resources as well as data from the company's internal research and are based on assumptions made upon reviewing such data and this experience and the knowledge of such industry in markets, which it believes to be reasonable. These assumptions are subject to uncertainties and risks, which could cause results to differ materially from those expressed in the estimates. I would now like to turn the call over to Ouster's Chief Executive Officer, Angus Pacala. Please go ahead, sir.

Charles Pacala

executive
#2

Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us for our first quarterly earnings call. I'm excited to tell you about our record quarter followed by an update on our business and execution road map. I'll then turn things over to Ouster's CFO, Anna Brunelle, to update you on our financial performance and business outlook. To begin, I want to share out this perspective on why digital lidar is the only lidar technology capable of delivering the quality, reliability and cost structure to enable revolutionary autonomy across industries. Today, lidar is best known for being a critical sensor for autonomous vehicles. But at Ouster, we understand that lidar is much, much more than that. It's the building block of a new world in which autonomous machines can see and understand their surroundings. Digital lidar is powering automation in everything from robots and factories to traffic lights and security systems. It can improve safety and save lives, drive efficiency and productivity gains and enhance sustainability. The lidar needs to be both highly performing across a wide set of criteria and also low cost enough that manufacturers are able to design it into the products that users want and can afford. Our digital lidar offers a combination of the highest performance at the lowest cost in the industry. It vastly improves upon analog technology in size, weight, form factor, power efficiency and weather durability. Our performance in the first quarter continues to demonstrate that our sensors are an ideal fit for 4 target markets: automotive, industrial, smart infrastructure and robotics, which opens up the TAM that we expect to grow to $8.6 billion by 2025. We continue to extend our multi-market presence through meaningful gains in performance due to our digital technology. And we expect to continue to scale exponentially in line with Moore's Law in a way that no other lidar technology can come close to matching. Turning to business updates. Ouster ended 2020 with $18.9 million in product revenue, reached over 500 customers across 50 countries, ramped up manufacturing capacity at our benchmark Thailand facility and shipped over 2,000 sensors worldwide. We demonstrated tremendous growth in a short period of time, illustrating that we have the right technology to win in this industry and that we have a scalable go-to-market approach. In the first quarter of 2021, Ouster successfully closed the business combination with Colonnade Acquisition Corp. with nearly $300 million in gross proceeds and began trading on the New York Stock Exchange under the ticker OUST on March 12, 2021. We achieved another record quarter with $6.6 million in revenue, a year-on-year increase of 187%, in line with our forecast and which we believe positions us to meet our full year 2021 revenue target of $33 million to $35 million. We scaled up our second-generation sensor production and shipped a record 978 sensors for revenue in the first quarter, which is nearly half of what we shipped in all of 2020. We have signed 30 strategic customer agreements or SCAs so far this year, bringing our total SCA count to 40. These customers alone represent the potential for over $385 million in contracted revenue opportunity through 2025. Anna will say more about what this means for the business later on. Turning to product development. We're executing against our product road map, delivering increased hardware and software capabilities in faster cycles than our peers. One of the things that makes Ouster special is our ability to innovate and develop our products faster because of our digital approach. This past quarter, we announced the rollout of upgraded Rev D sensors with improved reliability and industry's only standard 2-year warranty for high-performance lidar across the entire product suite. Additionally, we're releasing a software update in Q2, which will offer a significant improvement in performance for all of our customers. And finally and most importantly, we have designed complete on our next-generation L.3 chipset, which has been under development for the past year and takes advantage of next-generation fabrication technology. The L.3 chip offers further exponential gains in performance and capabilities that will strengthen our entire product portfolio. And again, we don't have to re-architect our products to achieve major performance gains, just the chipsets year after year after year. I'm also very excited to go into more detail on our automotive product mission review. Ouster's consumer ADAS strategy is based on the premise that an autonomous system cannot move in the direction that it cannot sense. Consumers expect that their L3 systems will be able to change lanes, merge, exit a highway and drive to a 4-way stop. The requirement is clear. These systems need 360-degree vision to make these maneuvers possible. And that's why we're developing the industry's only truly solid-state multi-sensor product suite. Automakers have released lidar RFQs for consumer ADAS targeted at 3 different sensor types, short, medium and long-range lidar. Based on major OEM forecasts, Goldman Sachs recently estimated that by 2030, up to 20% of the 115 million vehicles produced will require between 3 to 6 lidar sensors each. We believe this type of analysis further validates our perspective on the time line for series production, attach rates and, most critically, a multi-sensor lidar requirement for the next generation of advanced driver assistance systems. Ouster is uniquely positioned to offer a full automotive product family that addresses the multi-sensor need at a price that will enable these vehicles to move from a luxury option to mass adoption. We're developing the holy grail of automotive lidar, truly solid-state, low-cost and high-performance digital lidar sensors that can be seamlessly integrated into the vehicle body, enabling a combined price point of $1,000. We expect to deliver our first solid-state samples for the multi-sensor suite in the fourth quarter of 2022, and I look forward to sharing more about our automotive product offerings in the coming months. As excited as I am about this upcoming product suite and its potential for automotive, Ouster doesn't have to wait for ADAS programs to reach series production to generate meaningful revenue today. Our growth is indexed to the rapid acceleration of automation in each of our end markets. We are witnessing an unprecedented shift across industries, as the global economy is disrupted by autonomous technology. Take the global supply chain as an example. Gartner predicts that by 2025, more than 20% of all products will be manufactured, packed, shipped and delivered without being touched by anyone, but the end customer. In a recent lidar report, GM estimated that the TAM for moving people and goods autonomously could eventually reach $7 trillion, and COVID has only accelerated the appetite to automate. The vastness of the TAM for lidar is only just starting to become clear. So I'd like to walk you through some of the trends we're seeing across each of our end markets as well as examples of customers that are using our products today. First, in automotive, aside from the multi-sensor suite that we're developing for consumer ADAS, we believe there are 2 important areas for growth where we already have an established business, robotaxis and robotrucking. After a decade of R&D, these systems are now transitioning to full production. This year alone, we've signed SCAs for many thousands of units. For instance, we signed an SCA with automated trucking company, Plus, for an initial binding commitment of 2,000 sensors and a forecast of 160,000 sensors over the next 5 years, one of the largest lidar deals ever inked. Another robotrucking customer, Daimler Trucks, recently demonstrated their new development platform, which uses 3 Ouster sensors on each of their Torc testing vehicles. May Mobility, a leader in autonomous shuttles, is placing 4 ouster sensors per vehicle on their next-generation platform. QCraft plans to have 100 robobuses outfitted with Ouster sensors on open roads in China by the end of this year. And we signed an SCA with a major trucking OEM representing over $20 million in contracted revenue opportunities through 2023. We believe that years of growth lie ahead of us as our robotrucking, robotaxi and ADAS submarkets mature and the automotive market expands to a $1.9 billion TAM by 2025. Moving to industrials. For decades, automation has been transforming sectors from mining to advanced manufacturing and construction. Now lidar technology is converting these simple safety systems into intelligent machines capable of greater and greater levels of autonomy. For example, we just signed an SCA with a major warehouse automation provider, which is switching to Ouster sensors for its intelligent forklift platform. We have an SCA with Outrider to deploy our digital lidar on its autonomous yard trucks. Our sensors are powering the world's first large-scale autonomous mining truck project in Inner Mongolia through our SCA with Waytous. We have an SCA with Kässbohrer to deploy our sensors on SNOWsat as part of its technology for ski slope maintenance. And Sandvik has demonstrated their AutoMine Concept using 4 Ouster sensors per vehicle to push the boundaries of mining automation. The industrial lidar market is nearly $1 billion today and consists primarily of 2D analog lidar technology invented over 30 years ago. This presents a unique near-term opportunity for us to convert this established customer base to 3D lidar. As automation trends accelerate, we expect industrial lidar market to grow to $2.1 billion by 2025. Third, in smart infrastructure, we are extremely optimistic about Biden's $2 trillion infrastructure plan, which if passed would likely accelerate investments to modernize bridges, highways, roads, ports and intersections. Lidar is uniquely positioned against cameras to modernize our infrastructure while preserving privacy. We've partnered with companies like AkiraKan, a supplier of full stack AI and V2X solutions, which is deploying our sensors to monitor vehicle and pedestrian traffic flow in APAC cities. We have multiple pilot programs across the U.S., supporting cities on their mission to reduce road accidents under their Vision Zero programs as well as major smart infrastructure deployments in Germany and China. To date, we have 13 active projects and 52 projects in development across EMEA, APAC and the Americas. We believe that the addressable smart infrastructure market, around $500 million today, is poised to grow the fastest of our verticals over the next few years and reach $2.8 billion by 2025. Everywhere there is a CCTV camera or radar system in use today is an opportunity to augment or replace that system with Ouster's digital lidar in the future. Finally, we categorized last-mile delivery, street cleaning drone applications and academic research among other emerging use cases as part of the robotics end market. The common thread in this vertical is that each one of our customers is pursuing a potentially world-changing application in their own right. Our customer Postmates, now Serve Robotics, uses our sensors for its last-mile delivery business with deployments in L.A. and San Francisco. Renu Robotics is using Ouster sensors for automated vegetation management and solar farms. ScoutDI has deployed our digital lidar on drones to safely navigate and inspect industrial assets. And Canvas, a construction robotics company, is deploying our sensors on robots in large-scale construction sites. The total addressable robotics market is around $200 million today. And we expect it to grow to $1.8 billion by 2025, driven by literally hundreds of emerging use cases. To capitalize on the demand we're seeing across these 4 markets, we're investing heavily in our go-to-market teams by building a scalable, predictable commercial engine to accelerate lidar adoption. We've up-leveled our management team in the last few months with new additions to our Board, including Sundari Mitra, the Corporate Vice President of Intel's IP Engineering Group; Manny Hernandez, Board Director at ON Semiconductor; and Carl Bass, former Autodesk CEO and Chairman at Zoox. And earlier today, we announced a significant addition to our executive team with Nate Dickerman coming on board to serve as President of Field Operations and lead Ouster's overall commercial strategy and execution. He brings decades of sales experience, leading global teams at Planet Labs, Autodesk and IBM. To fast track our growth, we have already expanded the sales team by 50% since the beginning of the year in order to win more of the 14,000 potential customers we estimate are available to us. It is a significant competitive advantage that we can make these investments now and to near-term results. With that, I'd like to turn it over to our CFO, Anna Brunelle.

Anna Brunelle

executive
#3

Thanks, Angus. Before I get started, there is one administrative issue I want to cover related to the SEC's new guidance on accounting for warrants issued by SPAC. We want to make clear that we've completed our analysis of the SEC's guidance impact on Ouster. And our financial results included in today's earnings release reflect our evaluation and are indicative of how we expect to account for the warrants going forward. Due to the timing of our transaction with Colonnade, we are still evaluating the impact of the SEC's guidance on Colonnade's historical financial statements in the Form 10-K. But we do not expect any determination relating to Colonnade's historic financials to have an impact on Ouster's financials going forward or on what we've shared with you today. So moving on, now I'd like to touch on a few of the operational highlights Angus shared and what they mean for the business this year and over the long term. We achieved a record first quarter with $6.6 million in revenue, a year-on-year increase of 187%, in line with our internal estimates. I also want to reaffirm our previously issued full year 2021 revenue guidance of $33 million to $35 million, which represents an increase of approximately 75% to 85% as compared to prior year revenue of $18.9 million. As a reminder, we do not currently offer quarterly revenue guidance based on current customer forecast. We do expect our revenue growth to increase in the second half of 2021, similar to the growth trends we saw in the second half of 2020. To date, Ouster has signed 40 strategic customer agreements or SCAs representing over $385 million in contracted revenue opportunity from just these customers alone through 2025. Angus already mentioned a handful of the companies we are working with in each vertical, which are a testament to the benefits of our digital platform and the broad applicability of our unique technology. We want to remind everyone that SCAs established a multiyear purchase and supply framework for Ouster and the customer and include details about the customer programs and applications where the Ouster products will be used. They also include multiyear nonbinding customer forecasts, giving Ouster visibility on the customers' long-term purchasing requirements, mutually agreed upon pricing for specific Ouster products over the duration of the agreement and, in some cases, include multiyear binding purchase commitments. For customers that provided less than a 5-year forecast, no additional revenue opportunity beyond the term of the customer's forecast has been imputed. This is incredibly important to understand, which is not every company defines contracted revenue opportunity in the same way. At Ouster, we set a high bar for a customer relationship to rise to the level of a strategic customer agreement. And as a result, we believe we are building and reporting on the largest and, more importantly, the most legitimate order book for high-performance digital lidar. Because our work with 500-plus customers gives us the unique insight into their automation plans, we believe we are reaching a tipping point in lidar adoption as more and more projects move from R&D to production and deployment. Remember, applications in nonautomotive verticals often have lower barriers to production scale and benefit from a direct ROI based on improved safety and efficiency via automation, resulting in faster adoption and building confidence around our forecasted revenue ramp. Of course, as Angus said, we also intend to lead adoption in the automotive market with our unique differentiated multi-sensor suite. Remember, 1/3 of our revenue was from automotive customers last year. We expect the TAM for our products across our 4 target markets to reach $8.6 billion by 2025 and nearly $48 billion by 2030, driven primarily by smart infrastructure and industrial applications today, with automotive and robotics applications gaining momentum by 2025. We expect to see significant market penetration and growth as we expand our sales force and bring new products to market in these 4 verticals. Turning to margins. In line with expectations, Q1 gross margins were 26%, an increase of 110% over the prior year Q1. We believe our 40 SCAs have set the stage for further margin improvement over the life of these agreements as we lock in 3- to 5-year negotiated pricing while driving additional volume growth with multiple customers across verticals. As we've said before, we expect our margins to improve over time as we grow our volumes, leading to improved purchasing power and the ability to spread our fixed cost over a larger number of units sold. We believe we are the only digital lidar company achieving this kind of growth across end markets and also achieving industry-leading positive gross margins. Additionally, we increased our sensor production by over 60% in the fourth quarter of 2020 and will continue to ramp production in line with sales growth. We shipped a record 978 sensors for revenue in the first quarter, up from 290 sensors in Q1 of the prior year. Because our CMOS digital lidar technology results in a simplified architecture, our products are inherently suited to volume manufacturing, allowing us to scale rapidly while driving down the cost of goods sold. As Angus mentioned, we closed the quarter with nearly $300 million in gross proceeds from our business combination. And we believe that the capital raised from this transaction should be sufficient to carry us to EBITDA breakeven expected in 2023. Put another way, the capital raised from this transaction is approximately double the sum of capital we've used so far to develop our technology and patent portfolio to bring 2 generations of industry-leading digital lidar products to market with positive gross margins, to expand this and scale our contract manufacturing and to step into the public market. Our efficient use of capital gives us confidence that we will be able to execute on our plans to grow our business while keeping some dry powder for potential strategic opportunities. We are putting this capital to work in 3 specific ways. First, we are building out our sales and marketing teams to enable us to pursue an estimated 14,000 potential customers across our end markets by 2025. Second, we plan to strengthen investments in software development to add adjacent revenue streams and to shorten customer adoption cycles. And finally, we plan to accelerate our hardware road map through increased investments in R&D aimed at shortening chip design cycles from 2 years to 1 and continuing to widen Ouster's technology moat. As a result of our growth in positive margins, our adjusted EBITDA loss improved from $11.3 million in the first quarter of 2020 to $10 million in the first quarter of 2021. However, we have grown and will continue to grow our OpEx in 2021 as we build our teams to deliver on these 3 initiatives. In all, we remain incredibly excited about the opportunity ahead of Ouster. We believe we are the standout lidar company, not only because we have a diversified go-to-market strategy, but also because we continue to build trust with investors by executing the plan with strong business fundamentals. Ouster is achieving success because we invented the right platform, CMOS digital lidar. Our digital lidar unlocks a larger multi-market TAM and offers a combination of the highest performance and reliability at the lowest cost in the industry. It has allowed us to make product advancements in rapid succession and offer our growing base of over 500 customers customized solutions based on a single architecture. It has also allowed us to outsource manufacturing, lower our cost of goods sold and quickly achieve positive gross margin. Further, to provide an additional point of view on the strength of CMOS digital lidar on cost of goods sold, IHS Markit has concluded that VCSEL and SPAD technology, our digital lidar has the most price reduction potential based on interviews with the underlying suppliers of component parts. So not only is our technology expected to be a low-cost leader across markets, it is also important to point out that we see very little competition for high-performance lidar in the industrial, robotics and smart infrastructure markets, which are expected to provide the majority of our forecasted growth over the next few years. To close, we've had 2 record quarters back-to-back. Our recent high-profile customer wins, our significant pipeline of contract opportunities and our commitment to new product development positions us well for the future. We're on track to meet this year's revenue target of $33 million to $35 million and gross margin target of 25% to 27%. Our signed multiyear SCAs are ramping, and we are on pace to more than triple sensor production year-over-year. Ouster is uniquely positioned with the right products, more customers, more use cases and great product market fit across our 4 verticals in order to dominate the industry. So now I'll turn it back to Angus.

Charles Pacala

executive
#4

Thanks, Anna. Before Q&A, I want to leave you with this thought. There's no other time in recent history, probably since the invention of the Internet, that so many disparate industries have been affected simultaneously by a single trend like autonomy. For any disruptive technology, there's a point in time when the right ingredients, technology, market, customers and ecosystem maturity are present to create the next Intel, NVIDIA, Google or Illumina. Ouster has a unique window into the future today through our work with over 500 different customers as they deploy solutions with our digital lidar to bring about greater and greater levels of autonomy. Ouster's digital platform is that right technology at that right point in time to bring about the autonomous revolution. We believe that our success today is just the beginning, as Ouster is really a bet on the macro trend of autonomy. Ouster is here to build the world's best lidar technology, combine that hardware with software to provide solutions that power revolutionary applications across industry and leverage that advantage to become the world's first category-defining autonomy company. I want to thank you all for joining us today. We're now ready to answer questions.

Operator

operator
#5

[Operator Instructions] And your first question comes from Itay Michaeli with Citi.

Itay Michaeli

analyst
#6

Congrats on the first earnings call. Maybe just to kick it off with -- just to clarify, on the 40 SCAs, is that 40 comparable to the 20 production contracts or so I think you reported back at the Investor Day? And I was hoping you could also comment just broadly on the overall customer funnel, I think the roughly 200 or so customers that were previously in the funnel and kind of how that's looking today.

Charles Pacala

executive
#7

Thanks for the question. So we get a lot of questions about the customers moving towards production in that funnel and customer counts in general. And we want to provide more transparency here, which is why we're using a vector called strategic customer agreements or that count that all encountered SCAs and because it's a much more stringent way of defining a customer that has reached a high level of maturity with Ouster. There's signed piece of paper. There's a contract associated with that customer. And so our customer base absolutely has continued to increase every quarter. But we believe that SCAs are a much better metric because they talk less about the top of the funnel and instead provide that clarity on the customers that are moving towards production with these multiyear forecast negotiated pricing, clearly identified products and product SKUs and projects that are -- that those products are being used towards. And so again, we have a clear definition that we've been repeating on what an SCA is. It's a higher bar we see than any one of our peers in the industry. And yes, they are -- those 40 SCAs are a superset of the 20 production wins that we had communicated back at the Investor Day. So this is a better metric, a more stringent version. I'm just saying that we have production wins.

Itay Michaeli

analyst
#8

Got it. That's very helpful, I guess. And then just on the L.3 chip, it sounds like you've made some progress there. Maybe it's early to ask this question, but any -- if you can share in terms of what you expect performance metrics to be, range and resolution, particularly as we kind of compare that to some of the recent kind of lidar introductions from some of the other players out there?

Charles Pacala

executive
#9

Yes. I'm incredibly excited about this, the L.3 chip. It's been in development for the past year. It is a major advancement in the capabilities of this digital at our platform. We knew that exponential gains were going to continue to come. But I would say that the L.3 chip is one of the biggest exponential gains in raw performance of this technology to date. I think it's even bigger of a jump than our L.1 to L.2 chip. As it relates to specifics on the performance criteria, that's something that we want to keep close to the chest as a competitive advantage. We're not going to pre-release specs on our products as a policy as a company. But I can tell you that it is the most significant jump in technology and capability to date at Ouster.

Itay Michaeli

analyst
#10

That's great to hear. And then just lastly, I guess, you mentioned the sales force grew, I believe, 50% this quarter. Any target you can share in terms of kind of where you expect that to be by year-end?

Anna Brunelle

executive
#11

Yes, I can help with that one. I think, as you know, we're guiding to revenue and gross margin. But I do think it's really important to point out that as we completed this merger transaction, we had about 160 employees, which is many fewer than our competitors. And so we feel we've been very efficient with the capital that we've deployed developing our business to date. But that being said, I'm expecting to see a step-up in terms of operating expense as we go after the 3 initiatives that we talked about, both when we were doing the merger transaction with Colonnade and then again today, which is growing our sales and marketing team, investing in software and investing further in R&D to shorten chip cycle times. And so all of those initiatives with 160 employees, I think, you can model a pretty significant jump there ramping throughout this year as we're able to hire more folks to help us with those initiatives.

Charles Pacala

executive
#12

I'd just point out -- no, I'd just point out that we're incredibly happy to have Nate Dickerman joining the team. What he's been able to build this kind of this concept of a commercial engine that has incredibly high throughput and efficiency is something that he applied that is passed physicians of Planet Labs, Autodesk and IBM. And he is the top commercial leader at Ouster and will be continuing on the momentum of hiring across all of our regions and allowing our teams to get more and more focused on the end use cases vertical-by-vertical to even be more specific and selective and targeted in how we sell. So incredibly pleased to have him. It's a very significant addition to our executive team.

Operator

operator
#13

Your next question comes from the line of Richard Shannon with Craig-Hallum.

Richard Shannon

analyst
#14

Well, great. Congratulations on your first conference call as a public company. Let's see, a couple of questions on the SCAs here. Maybe just a couple digging in here a little bit here. By the description in your press release, some of the revenues in here are binding versus forecasted. Can you give us a sense of how much of that kind of rough percentage of what is binding there?

Charles Pacala

executive
#15

Sure.

Anna Brunelle

executive
#16

Angus, are you going to take this one? Or do you want me to jump in?

Charles Pacala

executive
#17

Yes. Let me just give the overview. So as a reminder, the vast majority of the terminology that we're using is contracted revenue opportunity, right, indicating that this is a nonbinding opportunity. There is binding component in all of these -- in some of these contracts, but not all. But the commitment is clearly defined through a multiyear forecast, again, which has -- in some cases, has a binding component, in some cases does not. And that's relatively standard for the automotive industry, the industrial industry, basically all the verticals that we serve. And it's really the commitment that is embodied in these contracts is really the multiyear process that is required to reach a volume production. So the certifications required and the investment on the customer side and on our side as governed by these relationships, that is the binding, I mean, that is the representation of the commitment from the customer and what is the sticky part of these. Again, I think that is far more important than a binding component at this stage. And we expect that to remain the case for years to come, given that even major automakers' contracts are not binding commitments. When you enter an agreement for series production, there is a preproduction stage where there's commitment around the nonrecurring engineering required to reach series production. But the actual series production is a nonbinding commitment. And so we're just following that same framework with these SCAs.

Anna Brunelle

executive
#18

And I would just add to that -- and just this thing really quickly here, too, a little bit more detail, which is these SCAs, they're for specific product applications, and we don't then impute that we're going to win other products in the future with the same customer, though, of course, we may very well. These are situations where the customer is issuing purchase orders. So it's not a future thing that is not happening today. And we have agreed upon volume pricing. So we've negotiated pricing over a period of 3 to 5 years, depending on the term of the SCA. And there are customer-driven forecasts for those 3 to 5 years that they'll be updating quarterly. And then on top of that, if the customer only gets a 3-year forecast, we did not impute any additional revenue from that customer in years 4 and 5. So obviously, we would expect that to come. What we're trying to do here is give you guys some insight into what's happening in our business now, not kind of a top of the funnel 5-year sort of view, but what's really happening in the business in the more immediate term. And I think this is a really good way of giving you guys a better feel for how customers are moving through the funnel and into production. And so we're really excited to be able to report this way.

Richard Shannon

analyst
#19

Okay. So that is helpful. Just another quick way to think about your SCA pipeline here. Any way that you can help us think about the end market contributions here? You already gave us some details both in the presentation as well as, Angus, in your prepared remarks here. So maybe I could probably guess it. But is there any way you'd help us to think about this? And I think given the questions that I get about Ouster, particularly related to automotive, and I guess, I'd probably include long-haul trucking in that, any way you could characterize how much of that is -- what percentage is...

Anna Brunelle

executive
#20

Yes. Yes, Richard, I think how we think about it is, last year, automotive was about 30% of our revenue. And so we expect that similarly this year, the nonautomotive markets are developing well. And so we expect that we'll continue to see more of our revenue in the next few years coming from the nonauto markets, but don't want to push your attention away from auto. I mean auto was 30% of our revenue last year. And as you saw in many of the anecdotal customer information that Angus gave in his script, we're performing really well in the auto space also.

Charles Pacala

executive
#21

To give a little more color there, I mean, basically, the SCAs, we're converting large numbers of our customer base to this contracted framework. And so we expect that the SCA contribution will mirror our revenue contribution by vertical. That is to say it's a roughly equal contribution by vertical to our revenue, and we expect that in our SCAs as well.

Richard Shannon

analyst
#22

Okay. Great. My last question here, and I may have missed the exact phrasing used in this. I know you talked about tripling the sensors. And I don't know if that was a demand or a capacity or supply commentary. So could you repeat that? And maybe I'll have a follow-up on that. Just want to make sure I'm getting that right.

Anna Brunelle

executive
#23

I'm not sure what you're referring to in terms of tripling. If you're talking about capacity, like we saw a 60% increase in capacity in Q4. And we're growing our capacity in 2021 in line with our revenue needs, because obviously, we don't want to produce so much that we're kind of holding on to excess inventory. But I think the reason we gave that statistic was to give you confidence that we were able to produce the units with our outsourced manufacturer benchmark in Thailand that we need to produce to support the growth of our company.

Charles Pacala

executive
#24

Yes. The tripling is the full year number. So you're correct. We're on track to triple sensor production for the full year to meet the demand versus the previous year.

Operator

operator
#25

Your next question comes from the line of Blayne Curtis of Barclays.

Blayne Curtis

analyst
#26

I'll offer my congrats on your first quarter. Maybe first question, just curious, the last couple of quarters has been product revenue. I think long term, you're looking for a software component. I think maybe you had some service starting in the past. Maybe I was curious how you look at that software opportunity and when that might start to flow into the model.

Charles Pacala

executive
#27

Absolutely. Well, it's already in -- the previous model that we provided is -- has a 25% software contribution by 2025. We see the software offerings contributing kind of gradually the time, linearly increasing the time. And that's just because we have so many end use cases and customers that we can go out and provide value-add software, too, that there's no single piece of software that we're planning on providing to the entire market. There's really 3 different areas whether it's developer tooling, middleware and intelligence capabilities or complete solutions. Those 3 buckets we're planning to offer to each one of our verticals eventually. And it's a linear ramp from nothing today to 25% in the future for that. So we previously provided that, and I hope that should answer your question. Anna, I don't know if you have anything else to add there.

Anna Brunelle

executive
#28

No, I think you covered it. I mean, we did talk a bit about software as we went through the pipe process and [indiscernible] those decks were, of course, put on the SEC filings, and I'm sure you've all seen them. So we're still planning to move forward with those projects, and they are budgeted in our OpEx for this year.

Blayne Curtis

analyst
#29

I guess, I was just curious, if you like, in this fiscal year, whether you expect software is going to be a few years out before that starts to contribute.

Anna Brunelle

executive
#30

Yes, previously, we said ramping to 25%, with a nominal contribution this year. So we're thinking it will start to contribute next year.

Blayne Curtis

analyst
#31

Got you. And then I just want to ask on the SCAs, a huge pickup between the end of 2020. And I was just kind of curious, the catalyst for that, was it just the timing of when the designs that you started to sign these agreements? Or was it kind of influenced by the stock process where you're now being a public company. Can you walk us through kind of why the SCAs have been kind of signed at such a pace for the last kind of quarter? And then as you look at the 500 customers, obviously, there's a pipeline here. I'm just kind of curious, think about just the pace of these signings as you move through the fiscal year.

Charles Pacala

executive
#32

Sure. I cannot stress enough.

Anna Brunelle

executive
#33

Yes. I think -- go ahead, Angus. I'll follow after you.

Charles Pacala

executive
#34

I got it, yes. No, I can't stress enough how important this progress in SCAs is. We're really at a tipping point where we're starting to convert large numbers of our customers who have been with us, in some cases, for multiple years to these contract-based engagements. It's a major initiative that we've undertaken in the last basically 2 quarters. And again, I think it's owing to a number of different things why we're starting to see so much success. But I think there's momentum that we have in record -- the record revenue that we're having, the growing opportunity, customer counts and the improving product portfolio that we have versus our peers. So we're really poised to continue to accelerate that, putting those customers under contract. But this is an initiative that we've started to undertake only recently. So the goal is to put existing customers under contract, some of which we've been engaged with for years, but now we have much, much better visibility and much more confidence and then remaining with us extremely sticky long term, while also pursuing new customers that we're engaging under contract. So this is a strategic addition or a strategic shift for how we work with customers on a go-forward basis. And -- yes.

Blayne Curtis

analyst
#35

Great. And then maybe just finally, if you could talk about the visibility you have maybe for the fiscal year, how far does that extend out? Obviously, the SCAs have some volumes. So I'm just kind of curious in terms of what your typical lead times are.

Charles Pacala

executive
#36

The -- is this a question on the lead time on seeing orders come in?

Blayne Curtis

analyst
#37

What your lead times typically are and kind of where you're -- how far your order book extends out through this fiscal year?

Charles Pacala

executive
#38

Sure. So lead times on shipping -- well, so I guess, in each of these SCAs, there is that minimum of 3-year forecast. And one of the requirements of putting a customer under contract is that they are indeed a customer, they have placed POs and received sensors. And so I would say, in every case, the customer -- these are already customers, they are already making sensor purchases, and we're seeing the benefit this year for sure. And I think in every case, there's volume ramp with time. But yes, the benefit is immediate.

Operator

operator
#39

Your next question comes from the line of Tristan Gerra with Robert W. Baird.

Dustin Scaringe

analyst
#40

This is Dustin online for Tristan. To go back on the customer agreements, I'm wondering how exclusive most of your multiyear broader agreements are. And does the exclusivity differ depending on the end markets you serve, specifically in the case of trucking, I think as both you and a competitor have mentioned agreements with Daimler? And then I have a follow-up.

Charles Pacala

executive
#41

Yes. And tackling that last part first, I think that, that highlights -- in the case of Daimler highlights the fact that there is -- there are multiple lidar sensors that are needed across wide swaths of our customer base. And we are able to, unlike any other lidar provider, offer that -- the most complete set of lidar sensors to the market to hit the most needs and use cases. So in the case of Daimler, yes, we're providing some of the lidar sensors, not all of the lidar sensors. But a customer like Plus, we are providing every lidar sensor on their robotrucking truck. And so -- and I would say that, that lidar example is more the rule than the exception. We commonly inhabit the majority, if not all, of the lidar sensors on the customers' platforms. Another great example, May Mobility with 4 lidar sensors on their vehicle. So exclusivity is built into some SCAs, but it is not a requirement for us to sign an SCA with a customer. But in cases where there is exclusivity, perhaps we're achieving that through some sort of agreement on the pricing or other terms that lock in that customer. So it's an option but not a requirement. But again, merely qualifying our sensors, being the first mover in the space with sensors that hit the real needs of a production deployment, for instance, like with Plus, where we have the best, most reliable, highest resolution and most affordable sensors for that use case, they are moving forward with us as a first mover, qualifying that system over the course of multiple years. In their case, they've been running our sensors for over a year now. So there's a massive amount of inertia and momentum at these customers to qualify our sensors and not others. So there's a real barrier to entry there and, I think, stickiness that despite the fact that in some cases, there is not exclusivity per se.

Dustin Scaringe

analyst
#42

Got it. That makes sense. And my follow-up, I understand your ES2 solid sensor is still in development. But how have you guys been sourcing customer interest for that sensor before volume production in 2023?

Charles Pacala

executive
#43

Yes. I mean -- I think it's not difficult to find customer interest. The entire automotive industry is based on this premise, this need for multiple sensors -- multiple solid-state sensors around the vehicle, I mean. I gave an example in the remarks that we receive RFQs from automakers for short-, medium- and long-range lidar. There is an inherent need for those 3 types of lidar sensors, and only a solid-state digital lidar can actually address the 3 different -- the varying needs of those 3 different types, et cetera, simultaneously. So it's virtually unanimous consent in automotive that, that multi-sensor suite is required. And we see it there. I mean another example being the Goldman Sachs report that we referenced, saying -- predicting that by 2025, 20 million cars effectively will require 3 to 6 lidar sensors each on those vehicles, again, just highlighting the multi-sensor need of the industry. So there's an immense focus on sourcing multiple different lidar sensors. And we're in contact with all of these potential customers on that basis, given how consolidated the auto industry is.

Operator

operator
#44

Your next question comes from the line of Joseph Osha with Guggenheim Partners.

Joseph Osha

analyst
#45

Just a couple of questions. Just following on from the previous one. Can we assume that these 40 SCAs and the $385 million consists largely of spinners? And then anything that comes out of a different architecture kind of has yet to show up in that SCA number? Is that a fair assumption?

Charles Pacala

executive
#46

That's absolutely right. Because again, one of the requirements is that these are current customers, they have purchased sensors and received those sensors. So only for products that we have in hand, yes.

Joseph Osha

analyst
#47

Okay. Got it. Now to shift gears a bit, obviously, it's not a very good environment for people trying to source integrated circuits. I'm wondering how that process has been for you on the CMOS part? And then also, I know you've probably got some other power ICs in the spinner. So I'm just wondering if you can comment on how that process has been?

Charles Pacala

executive
#48

Yes, for sure. I'm getting this question all the time. And I think, first of all, I'm -- I have the weekly meetings to track the supply chain for the balance of system. But importantly, we produce our core chips. The lidar chipset is a fully custom design, and we have a lot of control over that supply chain, and we hold safety stock in wafers. So I don't foresee any issue with sourcing the core components of VCSELs, the SoC for our devices. On the balance of system, there's much more competition, there's actual competition for those parts. But we hold weekly meetings, making sure that we have continuity of supply. And we don't foresee any problem with a lack of supply and ability to ship to our targets this year. So it's absolutely -- I mean it's something of immense focus internally for the company. But at this point, we don't foresee any issue in the supply chain, yes.

Joseph Osha

analyst
#49

Okay. And that would extend to, I assume, as you [ rose ], the SoC, you're probably also moving to different design rules and that, obviously, things are tight there. So as you look forward, are there are any challenges on that front? You try and drive -- I don't know what design robot parts are on-, off-hand.

Charles Pacala

executive
#50

Yes. The only challenge there would be time -- fab loading impacting production time line. So it's not that we wouldn't be able to produce the chips, but just that it would take longer to produce the chips if a particular fab is loaded. So far, we haven't seen that. We're not going to beat our -- we're certainly not going to beat our time lines, but we're still tracking to our time lines for our product rollouts. But yes, yes, that is certainly a concern of fab loading or to get higher than we could be delayed in a product rollout -- a new product rollout.

Joseph Osha

analyst
#51

Sure. Sure. That certainly makes sense. And then Anna made an interesting comment. I'll let either of you respond to the observation that you want to keep your sort of strategic options open without tipping your hand too much. Are there any particular skill sets or things that you see that might be desirable as you look around the market, liquid crystal metasurface or something, I'm just curious.

Anna Brunelle

executive
#52

Yes. Before Angus answers the question on what he might find desirable, I just want to throw out there we do not currently have anything contemplated. That comment was not to give you guys a tip. It was more just in the light of letting you all know that we think we have enough cash on hand to get to our EBITDA breakeven point. But with that being said, I'll turn it over to Angus to answer the question of if there was something that he had a desire to add to our team, what would it be.

Charles Pacala

executive
#53

Yes. I think if there were an opportunity, I would -- as a precondition, you need to be small, high-performing teams. We're not looking to merge with a major -- with some large company or anything like that. And I would say that we're very confident in our hardware road map and our technology set and do not feel the need to augment our hardware road map with additional IP or different product lines or technology. We think -- we truly think we can address all of the market needs with a digital lidar platform that we already have commercialized. So anything that we would do in the space would be more focused on kind of the ecosystem, kind of peripheral capabilities that we could offer alongside the digital lidar hardware that we're providing today.

Operator

operator
#54

Your next question comes from the line of Michael Filatov with Berenberg.

Michael Filatov

analyst
#55

Just got actually 2 questions. One quick one, on the noncontact slip ring that you guys use, do you have a patent on that? And if so, I'm kind of curious, does anybody else in the industry currently use something similar?

Charles Pacala

executive
#56

We do have a patent on that. And I think that, that highlights the fact that we have over 30 brands of patents today, over 100 pending worldwide. We file very broadly internationally. And we have over 20 different intervention families, one of which is around noncontact slip ring technology, which is the technology that allows a rotating system to be incredibly high reliability and low cost. And it's things like that, that have led, I think, us to have one of the leading patent portfolios in the industry, because we file extremely broadly. And we thought about some of these things that are maybe overlooked by our competitors early on, filed at all early and have had immense kind of success in getting these patents granted. So -- and I think there was an interesting report from Patent-Insights, which you can find online, that highlighted that Ouster has one of the most strategic and comprehensive patent portfolios of any lidar manufacturer in the industry today. So I encourage you all to search the Patent-Insights lidar report that they just released a couple of months ago as it highlights exactly what I'm saying.

Michael Filatov

analyst
#57

Great. And just one follow-up because you've mentioned a couple of times in the call. I hear you that OEMs like to source sort of multiple sensors within a modality, right, long range, short range medium range. But I suppose in my experience and the OEMs I'm talking to, it tends to be -- the concept seems to be 1 long-range forward-facing lidar for Level 3 or maybe even L2 Plus, but never multiple lidar sensors surround you. Generally, it relies on cameras and radar. So I'm curious, I know that there's a trade-off, particularly with your sequential flash lidar of range and field of view, right? So if you were to get sort of forward long range -- provide a forward long-range lidar sensor, which you have to have multiple of your lidar sensors, how many would be for forward long-range optic detection? And then how many would you have surrounding the vehicle?

Charles Pacala

executive
#58

Yes. So we absolutely believe that we need just one forward-looking long-range lidar, which again highlights the point that there is more volume to be had, more opportunity if you can supply the entire system, given how many other lidar sensors we expect and I think others expect there to be on a vehicle. I think it's not true that automakers are only sourcing vehicles with the forward-looking lidar and cameras. I think what you're seeing is that, that is a limited L3 system. So there may be initial L3 systems where the car is only capable of providing 4 direction L3 capabilities, basically following a car and not making any turns or lane changes or maneuvers. And so what we're highlighting is that in order to achieve the full suite of L2 capabilities between hands-free and hands-free driving, including making lane changes, moving through stop signs, merging and exiting a highway and making any turn or movement that isn't in the forward direction, you must have redundant lidar sensors positioned around the vehicle to look in the direction that you want to travel. And so that's where we're differentiating is being able to provide that complete suite of lidar sensors, not to mention that we're offering it at a fundamentally lower price point than our competitors, just looking at us offering a complete suite for $1,000 when our competitors are talking about a single forward-looking lidar for $1,000. So entering the market fundamentally at lower price points, we're not saying we're not going to build a forward-looking high-performance lidar, that's absolutely part of the suite, but it's just one of -- it's a minority of the total opportunity.

Michael Filatov

analyst
#59

Sure. And sorry, just one quick follow-up. I mean I believe it was referenced before as well. Daimler, for instance, you have multiple lidars on sort of that program -- trucking program. And I assume the other reference is Luminar for forward-facing long-range sensor. But I'm curious on Plus.ai, for instance, you said you're basically the only lidar supplier. For the forward-facing lidar long-range optic detection, what is the range that you're achieving for that particular program? And what's the trade-off of the field of view?

Charles Pacala

executive
#60

Well, that's a great example actually because in that case, and you can watch the Plus video that we released on the YouTube that's probably available, where they talk about it being more challenging, the fast lane-change maneuvers and merging and exiting are more challenging in their use case than the forward-looking long-range application, where they feel they can use only cameras and radar and don't need necessarily a long-range lidar. So they view the lidar -- the wider field-of-view lidars that are mounted on the sides of the vehicle that are protecting against fast lane-change maneuvers and cars kind of side swiping and things like that, those are more critical, and it's a harder challenge for a large vehicle like a semi. The semi has so much forward momentum that a long-range lidar is not really going to provide the benefit that, to me, they need to see much, much further and feel that they can do it with cameras and radar and that they have to solve that and view it as an easier challenge than the fast sideswipe maneuvers. So just highlighting that a customer that's truly moving into production has a very different view of what the hard challenges are after literally years of on-road testing.

Operator

operator
#61

And your last question comes from Jay Van Sciver with Hedgeeye.

Jay Van Sciver

analyst
#62

I'm wondering, can you give us the time line for a customer coming into Ouster, say, like RFP to getting one of these SCAs signed to actual revenue recognition? And how much of that growth is just limited by the size of your sales force?

Charles Pacala

executive
#63

Yes. So the time -- so at the point that we've signed an SCA, a precondition is that we have generated -- our customers generate revenue. We have shipped, they placed a PO and received the sensor. We are not going to report on any -- we're not going to count any customer as under SCA if they're not truly a customer where we have shipped a sensor and, by that condition, we have generated revenue. That time, I would say, spans anywhere from 3 months to 18 months, with probably the average being somewhere between 6 to 12 months. And Plus is another great example here where they had our systems -- our sensors on their system for 12 months approximately before moving forward with an SCA. But I would say that back to this concept, we really are at a tipping point where more and more customers are willing to commit to our platform because of the maturity of our products, the benefits of our products and the confidence they have in us as a public company with a significant balance sheet at this point. And I think we're just at a tipping point where maybe we'll see those time lines shortening from 6 months to a year to maybe 3 to 6 months going forward.

Operator

operator
#64

And I would now like to turn the call back over to Angus Pacala for closing remarks.

Charles Pacala

executive
#65

Thanks. Well, I just wanted to thank everyone, our employees, customers and shareholders who are on this journey with us. We're excited to be a public company, and we look forward to providing the market with timely and transparent updates about the state of our business. And we appreciate everyone that joined us for the call.

Operator

operator
#66

Thank you for participating. This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.

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