PACCAR Inc (PCAR) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
July 28, 2026
What were the key takeaways from PACCAR Inc's July 28, 2026 earnings call?
In the second quarter of 2026, PACCAR Inc reported revenues of $7.5 billion and net income of $752 million, marking a 24% increase from the first quarter. The strong performance was attributed to the truck division, which saw deliveries rise from 33,000 to 38,700 units. Management maintained a positive outlook for the second half of the year, projecting U.S. and Canadian heavy truck market sales of approximately 250,000 units for the full year, with expectations for continued growth in truck deliveries and parts sales.
What topics did PACCAR Inc cover?
- Strong Truck Division Performance: PACCAR's truck deliveries increased significantly, from 33,000 to 38,700 units in Q2, with management projecting further growth to around 42,000 in Q3. CEO R. Feight noted, "The U.S. economy is growing and the truck market is strengthening as freight rates have increased."
- Record PACCAR Parts Revenue: PACCAR Parts achieved record revenues of $1.75 billion in Q2, with a pretax income of $417 million. Management highlighted an 8% growth in revenue from their Fleet Services Program, indicating increased parts purchases by customers.
- Gross Margin Improvement: Gross margins for truck parts increased from 13.1% to 14.4% due to higher truck volumes and effective cost controls. Management expects Q3 margins to be strong at 14.5%, with further improvements anticipated in Q4.
- EPA Regulatory Impact: Management discussed the recent EPA clarification on NOx emissions regulations, which extends the timeline for compliant engines. This is expected to positively influence the truck market in 2027, as customers will have more time to adapt to new technologies.
- Capital and R&D Investments: PACCAR plans to invest between $700 million to $750 million in capital expenditures and $450 million to $480 million in R&D this year, focusing on advanced manufacturing and clean diesel technologies.
What were PACCAR Inc's July 28, 2026 results?
- Revenue: $7.5B (vs $7.2B est, +24% QoQ)
- Net Income: $752M (vs $600M est, +24% QoQ)
- PACCAR Parts Revenue: $1.75B (record quarterly revenue, +8% QoQ)
- Gross Margin: 14.4% (up from 13.1% in Q1)
- Truck Deliveries: 38,700 (up from 33,000 in Q1)
- Third Quarter Deliveries Estimate: 42,000 (expected growth despite seasonal shutdowns)
PACCAR's strong Q2 results and positive outlook for the second half of 2026 reinforce a favorable investment thesis. Key catalysts include robust demand in the truck market, effective cost management, and strategic investments in technology. However, monitoring U.S. and Canadian delivery trends and potential supply chain constraints will be crucial for assessing future performance.
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Operator
operatorGood morning, and welcome to PACCAR's Second Quarter 2026 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Today's call is being recorded, and if anyone has an objection, they should disconnect at this time. I would now like to introduce Mr. Ken Hastings, PACCAR's Director of Investor Relations. Mr. Hastings, please go ahead.
Ken Hastings
executiveGood morning, and welcome to PACCAR's Second Quarter 2026 Earnings Conference Call. All lines will be in listen only mode. My name is Ken Hastings, PACCAR's Director of Investor Relations. And joining me this morning are Preston Feight, Chief Executive Officer; Kevin Baney, President; and Brice Poplawski, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Certain information presented today will be forward-looking and involve risks and uncertainties that may affect expected results. For additional information, please see our SEC filings and the Investor Relations page of paccar.com. I would now like to introduce [ Resi ].
R. Feight
executiveThanks, Ken. Good morning, everyone. In the second quarter, PACCAR's outstanding employees did an excellent job of increasing production to provide our customers with highest quality trucks and transportation solutions in the industry. Their hard work, high performance and dedication is enabling PACCAR to continue increasing build rates in our factories around the world. PACCAR's second quarter revenues were $7.5 billion, and net income was $752 million, an increase of 24% from the first quarter. These results were driven by strong truck division performance. PACCAR Parts performed well and achieved record quarterly revenues of $1.75 billion and quarterly pretax income of $417 million. PACCAR Financial also performed well, achieving pretax income of $124 million. Now looking at this year's U.S. and Canadian heavy truck market. The U.S. economy is growing and the truck market is strengthening as freight rates have increased and regulatory clarity has been provided. First half retail sales were 105,000 trucks, and we expect that the second half could be around 145,000, resulting in a full year market size of around 250,000 units. In Europe, the economy is growing modestly and the truck market is healthy. We project the 2026 European [ above ] 16-tonne market size to be around 310,000 trucks. [ DoT's ] premium trucks are providing customers with the latest technology and the best operating efficiency. This year's South American above 16-tonne market where DAF trucks are desired by customers for their durability and advanced technology is expected to be in the range of 100,000 to 110,000 vehicles. In the second quarter, PACCAR's truck deliveries increased from 33,000 to 38,700. Third quarter deliveries are estimated to grow and be around 42,000 as build rate increases are partially offset by the normal European summer shutdown period. PACCAR's truck parts and other second quarter gross margins increased from 13.1% to 14.4% due to very good overall performance. Third quarter margins are forecast to be a strong 14.5% and then further increase in the fourth quarter. PACCAR's exceptional range of trucks, compelling parts business, industry-leading financial services and customer-focused product development strategy, position the company well for an excellent second half of 2026 and [ the ] future. Kevin will now provide an update on PACCAR Parts, Financial Services and other business highlights. Kevin?
Kevin Baney
executiveThank you, Preston. PACCAR Parts achieved record second quarter revenues of $1.75 billion and good profits of $417 million. Gross margins increased to 29.8%. Increasing truck utilization is beginning to lead to more parts and service activity and we expect higher parts sales growth in the second half. Revenue from PACCAR Parts Fleet Services Program grew 8% in the second quarter, which is an indicator that customers are beginning to increase parts purchases. For the full year, we estimate parts sales growth in the range of 3% to 5%. PACCAR Financial Services pretax income was a robust $124 million. Their high performance is a result of steady finance margins and strengthening used truck markets. Earlier this month, the EPA clarified a key [ NOx-related ] emissions regulation. The clarification extends the time line to introduce 35-milligram NOx engines. Next year, customers will be able to buy the current generation of engines with an associated nonconformance fee. This will be beneficial for customers as it will ensure new technology is fully validated before being purchased by customers. It is also likely to have a positive impact on the size and strength of next year's truck market. This year, PACCAR is planning capital investments in the range of $700 million to $750 million and R&D expenditures in the range of $450 million to $480 million. PACCAR is investing in customer-focused technology and innovation projects, including advanced flexible manufacturing that enhances efficient [ local ] for local production, the development of next-generation clean diesel engines, industry-leading hybrid and electric powertrains and integrated vehicle -- connected vehicle services. We are looking forward to the success that our customers, dealers [ and ] PACCAR will experience in the coming quarters and years. We are now pleased to answer your questions.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Steve Volkmann from Jefferies.
Stephen Volkmann
analystThank you. Good morning, everyone. I'm wondering if we can dive in on the gross margin, I think this quarter came in a bit stronger than you had expected. What are the moving parts that would explain that?
R. Feight
executiveSure. There's a couple of things. Thanks for the question. Probably one of the things is volume of trucks was higher. And then most significantly, I think our local-for-local production is benefiting PACCAR. I also think that the team did a fantastic job in cost [ controls ] or price [ versus ] cost was favorable for us, even more than we thought it would be. So that was also a positive. Those are the biggest majorities of what influenced it. And as I said, local-for-local production provides some tariff benefits to us.
Stephen Volkmann
analystOkay. Great. And what are you seeing in the market relative to pricing because you have a little bit more, I guess, local-for-local than some of your competitors. Are you seeing overall pricing kind of coming up in the market, which gives you some opportunity?
R. Feight
executiveYes. I think what's happening in the general market is our customers are starting to [ experienced ] better operating conditions for themselves. Spot rates are up 20%, contract rates are up 6.5%. So we're seeing favorability for how they're operating their businesses. I think the driver pool has become a little bit more constrained, which is helping them realize operating benefits. And I think we all share in that together. So we've seen some favorability in terms of how we're able to price trucks as we look forward.
Operator
operatorYour next question comes from the line of Jerry Revich from Wells Fargo.
Jerry Revich
analystI thought the profit per truck performance was especially strong in the quarter. I'm wondering was there any i.e., refund benefit or anything along those lines that contributed to the really strong cost improvement?
R. Feight
executiveI think if you look at that performance, it was largely driven from a net price cost benefit. And the biggest part of that was really the team's operating effectiveness and good warranty performance by the team, efficiencies to the local-for-local, but we did have a net tariff benefit. We had some tariffs, we have to pay, of course, with the raw material stuff, and then we had some offset tariffs, but the net was -- the bigger part of it was really operating strength.
Jerry Revich
analystIs it possible just to quantify the refund that you saw in the quarter, just to put a finer point on the run rate profit per truck?
R. Feight
executiveNo, we didn't put that out. And we think that it [ will ] remain to together to think that the tariff position we had in the second quarter will look similar to the third quarter.
Jerry Revich
analystThat's really great to hear. And then what we have been hearing until the [ EPA's ] due ruling was that you folks for the fourth quarter delivery were pulling back discounts. And so the price realization was set to prove by over $5,000 in the fourth quarter versus the third quarter. Could you just [ update ] is that still happening considering the more phased approach to the EPA '27 rollout?
R. Feight
executiveWell, I think the EPA has done a very nice job in paying attention to what the industry's needs are. I appreciate the work the administration has done in helping make sure we put fully validated products out into the marketplace. So it's been nice to work with the EPA and the customers and the administration to put a government business relationship in place that work is working well. I think what they did is they took not all of the pre-buy, but they kind of smooth it, and I think it creates a stronger position for 2027 to be a good market for the industry. And so I think that's kind of how we experience in that. And if it's a good market for our customers, then it tends to be a good market for us as well.
Operator
operatorYour next question comes from the line of Tami Zakaria from JPMorgan.
Tami Zakaria
analystGood morning. Congrats on excellent results. Two questions. The first one is on gross margin guide for the third quarter. It seems like you're expecting somewhat sequentially flattish gross margin despite deliveries being higher and North America probably being a higher mix given the shutdowns in Europe. So what underpins that margin guide? Why wouldn't margins be better sequentially? Is there any cost headwind you're expecting in the third quarter that you didn't have in the second quarter?
R. Feight
executiveGreat question, Tami. Thanks for asking. There's a couple of things that factor. One you're fully aware of, right, which is that as truck increases, it has a ratio mix to parts and that increase has an impact. So that's why that's around 14.5%. And there also happens to be in the third quarter where probably the mix of our actual trucks we're building is shifting a little bit. So maybe a little less occasional, a little bit more fleet trucks that we're building. So put those two things together and we stay with the strong margin. But the nice thing is with the higher build, we see profit increasing in the quarter and continuing to strengthen through the year.
Tami Zakaria
analystGot it. That is helpful. And then my second question is on the [ NOx ] compliant engine. If I remember correctly, you expected that to be, call it, [ 8 ] to 10,000 more expensive than a noncompliant one. But with the NCPs that have been announced, it seems like the fine could be lower than the cost of a compliant engine. Just wanted to know if that's what if that's how you interpret it? And if so, how could that impact your customer behavior next year when the EPA of regulation goes into effect?
R. Feight
executiveTami, thanks for the second question. Good question. I think a lot of information came out just as recently as [ July ]9 on that when EPA made the announcement. It's still preliminary. It's a notice of proposed [ rulemaking ]. So there's a comment period that we're in. So things could even change from here. We'll have to see what that looks like. We probably won't get a final answer too much later in the year. But the way it's currently proposed is we would expect to see NCPs running at something like $6,000 to $7,000 range per truck. And as you noted, the cost of fully compliant 35-milligram engines would likely be higher than that. But I think a lot of it went into the discussion was the desire to make sure that the engines from all the manufacturers and engine companies were fully validated and the customers had enough time with them. So that was a big portion of what happened here. So I think the result of that is, as shared earlier, means that the end of the year will improve, and then I think it bodes well for a good 2027 operating condition for the customers and for us.
Operator
operatorYour next question comes from the line of Rob Wertheimer from Melius Research.
Robert Wertheimer
analystPreston, you just touched on this, I think maybe Kevin did earlier, but the EPA shift or proposed rule may benefit 2027 a bit. And my question is a bit of a soft one, but when you talk to customers now, are people [ prebuying ] or do they just need trucks. There's a couple of things that may be tightened up fleet dynamics. And so I'm curious about maybe it's a soft question, but like what people are buying for. And then in the '27, those comments are around continued prebuy or more just that people have confidence in the engine and are shying away from it?
R. Feight
executiveYes, sure. Good question. Good to think through that a little bit. I think part of what's happening is they've been in a tough operating conditions. Our customers may of [ them ] have been in [ tough ] operating conditions for a few years now. That meant they've been careful with capital. They've probably got trucks longer than they would have wanted to. And you can see that, especially as a pronounced first half of this year. We really showed up in 105,000 trucks of retail. I think that now what's happening is they're trying to get back into their normal operating models. The trucks we're building today are the most fuel-efficient trucks we've ever built. So they're very helpful to the customers to operate them. The driver environment is the best it's ever been. The [ engine ] forming the best they've ever performed. So we have a great product line about there. And I think that since they have the operating capital to use, they'd like to be using those trucks since they're just starting to do that. it seems like it's going to ramp through the second half, like I said, probably 145,000 retail second half. And then I think we should expect a very healthy market in '27.
Robert Wertheimer
analystOkay. And then just the EPA, does that advantage any of your competitors more [ through ] of credit. Is that any headwind to market share or price in '27, I'll stop there.
R. Feight
executiveActually, I think that the -- maybe the situation is very leveling now and maybe to our advantage a little bit in that the NCPs are allowing everybody to make sure we get the right products out there validated so the customers get the experience with the products, they get the experience with our products and the quality of product we're able to introduce in a more gradual way versus it being step changed. But the fine level, if you look at the shape of the curve for the fines, for most manufacturers, they may be all manufacturers as it's currently written, the fine is going to be in that 6,000 to 7,000 range if they choose to offer today's products. And so that kind of levels it out also.
Operator
operatorYour next question comes from the line of David Raso from Evercore ISI.
David Raso
analystYour comments about '27, can you take us through your thoughts right now when you're speaking to your suppliers about the cadence 4Q into 1Q? And then second question on the parts business. Can you help us get a little more comfort with the parts growth exiting '26? Obviously, the back half of the year has to step up a little bit. Just trying to think that through and not to give '27 parts guidance, but just how to think about that growth rate exiting '26 as we think about '27.
R. Feight
executiveThanks, David. I'll take the first one, and then Kevin can cover the [ part ] one. We can add anything you want to the first [ 2 ] The quarterly cadence of the market is, as I kind of was just describing with Rob, is I really see that the market is ramping up, we're certainly fall through the third quarter, mostly full for the year, probably like 90% full for the year, even as we're ramping up production at a rate that's as quick as is reasonable to do. So that's kind of limiting the market size a little bit right now. So we will sell out of build slots probably in the next month or [ 2 ] here. And as we're out of build slots, then I think there will be carryover into 2027. And then I think because of the way the EPA implemented this approach, it will allow people to have the product they want next year, which I think they'll be in a good operating condition. And so it will help the cadence of the year next year start strong and probably be strong through the year.
Kevin Baney
executiveAnd just to add to what Preston said, PACCAR was the first to announce build rate increases earlier in the year. And so a lot of strong communication with the supply base on the rate of increase throughout the year. So I feel pretty good about the support we're getting at the elevated build levels. And then on the parts side, David, the parts will grow at a faster rate in the second half based on the strength of the truck market. Capacity has come out, utilization has increased, freight rates have increased, we're seeing customers buying more parts now, a good indicator is that the larger customers are buying through our fleet services program. We've seen an 8% increase quarter-over-quarter. And then also Europe is running strong. And so as we see the stronger truck market second half of this year and into next year, we're confident with the parts growth.
Operator
operatorYour next question comes from the line of Chad Dillard from Bernstein.
Charles Albert Dillard
analystA question for you on EPA '27. So noncompliant is about $6,000 to $7,000. If you did comply with [ 3 ]5 milligrams, plus $10,000 assuming the EPA rules hold, how does that change your product strategy? So will you stick with the 200-milligram product and just pass that extra cost on the customers. Or are you sticking with going as planned with the 35-milligram product?
R. Feight
executiveGreat question. We are planning on selling the current product to our customers. That's the engagement we've had with many, many customers is that that's their preferred approach is to ease into this thing. So both for our excellent PACCAR engines and our partners engines [ Cummins ], and the plan is to be in 2026 selling those engines. And then getting our customers' experience with the 35-milligram engines as the year progresses. But as you noted, if the numbers stay where they are and at [ 6,000 to 7,000 ], there's still an advantage for them. in taking the current product. So it's kind of we think the year shapes up, which is, I think, favorable for the industry. I think it's a great approach for the industry.
Charles Albert Dillard
analystOkay. Great. And second question is just coming back to tariffs and just to be clear, the [ EPA ] refunds, was there anything in 2Q or through the rest of the year? And then secondly, assuming the rules stay where they are today? How do you think about the year-on-year comps as we're trying to think through the bridge to 2027 for tariffs?
R. Feight
executiveYes. I think that the tariff situation has become a little bit more clear, Chad, in the [ 232 ] is durable. There doesn't seem to be any real challenge to that. I think it is favorable for PACCAR in that our teams, as we shared previously, but I was -- I've been in all our factories just in the last month, and I just can't tell you how cool it is to see those great people building every model of truck in the factories in Ohio and in Texas in a way that's supportive to the approach of the administration of building local for local. So a great job on that. That gives us a stable tariff operating environment. I think -- so looking at that. And yes, there's a little bit [ EPA ] benefit in 2, but that will carry forward in 3 and the bigger effect of tariffs really ends up being the 232 as you look forward into next year.
Operator
operatorYour next question comes from the line of Kyle Menges from Citigroup.
Kyle Menges
analystGreat. I was hoping just if we could hone in on margins a little bit, maybe as we get into 2027, I mean you sound a little bit more confident in volumes and then easing into the new truck platform, I guess, in 2027, new engine platform. And I'm just curious how you're thinking about margin ramifications maybe as you start with selling 2026 engines in the first half of next year but then start to produce on the new engines and just how to think about margin impact as you do that.
R. Feight
executiveYes, I think that the NCPs that will be out there are fees that will be paid not to the manufacturer that [ will ] be paid to the government. So that's a straight pass-through for us. And that's how we would look at that. So it really shouldn't have any effect on margin. We're not going to try to make a profit on those penalties. That's just a pass-through. But we think the strength of the market will be good for PACCAR in the 2027 should do great. And we think that, again, the allowance to sell the current model of your products throughout next year, which is a distinct possibility, what we'll do with an introduction of 2027 feels really good. [ peeling ] the right approach and should be positive, Kyle.
Kyle Menges
analystGot it. And then also on parts, I mean it sounds like maybe some of the larger fleet customers contributing more to the parts demand this year. So just curious, as you see the over-the-road market come back and maybe a recovery become more broad based and seeing more demand pick up from small and midsized fleets, just how to think about [ parts ], margins maybe as that mix within the customer base shifts a little bit. I mean, I would imagine maybe small, midsized fleets, they'd be buying more TRP parts, which I think come at a lower margin. So just how to think about that?
R. Feight
executiveYes, Kyle. So the reference to the fleet services was a good indicator for the large fleets, but we're also seeing the increase in the small to midsize as well. And it's just a reflection of the utilization picking up across the industry. So that's good. We're also seeing an increase in our [ TRP ] part sales as well. So I think those are all strong indicators of improved part sales. And then just on the margin side, we still have the newest truck platforms in the industry with strong proprietary content, the engine business as well. And so I think we had talked earlier call is about to focus on [ service-only ] required maintenance. And as the truck side improves, I think we'll just see all indications improve on the parts side as well.
Operator
operatorYour next question comes from the line of Jamie Cook from Truist Securities.
Jamie Cook
analystCongrats on a nice quarter. I guess my first question, the delivery surprised to the upside relative to your guide, but U.S. and Canada was down, which I guess I was surprised by. I think you implied every region should be up. So what's driving that? And within the 42,000 deliveries in the third quarter, what are you expecting for U.S. and Canada? And I guess pressing it sort of dovetails into the margins because the margins were very impressive with U.S. and Canada down. I always thought that was one of your more profitable regions. So correct me if I'm wrong. And then I guess my second question, on the third quarter margins, you mentioned mix, like a little more fleet, a little less vocational. Could you just help us understand what you're seeing across [ TL ], [ LTL ] and vocational in terms of like the order book? And is fleet being higher just a function of demand improving there? Or is there something more negative happening on the vocational side. I know there was a lot in there.
R. Feight
executiveWow, Jamie, that was a lot. Tried to work from the back of it to the front. You're right, there is some mix shift, and it's not about really anything other than the fleets and the truckload carriers increasing their demand in the months we're in now and looking forward. So that's probably the biggest thing that's affecting the margin there. And then from a build mix standpoint, you take it more generically, I would say that we did have a few hundred trucks that we didn't even deliver in the U.S. It's probably a difference in the U.S. that we saw just from some supplier constraints that we're starting to experience as the market ramps up. And so we think those will come through in the quarter, and we do expect healthy demand improvement or not even demand, but delivery improvement in the U.S. markets. And then we had good European performance. The team did a great job there in the quarter. And so I think you put the strong U.S. performance, the increasing truck market in the U.S., the strong European performance. They were all factors in it. They all came together well, and we think that will continue. Yes, you bet. If I miss something there, feel free to jump in on that because there was a lot.
Operator
operatorYour next question comes from the line of Steven Fisher from UBS.
Steven Fisher
analystJust on the U.S. Canada retail outlook. It sounds like you're centering around 250,000 there. Just curious with half [ the ] year to go? Just why not narrow the range at all? Are there still scenarios where you think you could reasonably say either the [ 230 ] or the [ $270 ].
R. Feight
executiveI think that we left it that way, but it's really calling the midpoint of [ $250 ] million. I think the question still centers out around inventory and what happens with inventory in that. Because I think we have a great understanding of what build is going to be and now it's just what happens with inventory.
Steven Fisher
analystOkay. Makes sense. And then I'm not sure if I missed it on the parts side relative to that new 3% to 5% range for the year. Q3, are we thinking that it will sort of be at the low end of that 3% to 5% or somewhere in between? Anything specific if I missed it on Q3 guide for parts?
Unknown Executive
executiveYes, we didn't provide Q3 guide, but [ same ] what I'll add is that we did see sequential growth in the Q2 as we went through the quarter. And so that's why I just called it the 3% to 5% for the second half. I think we'll see growth continue throughout the back half of the year.
R. Feight
executiveBut I don't think we think it's at the low side of that range. I think we think to the [ high ] side of that range.
Operator
operatorYour next question comes from the line of Angel Castillo from Morgan Stanley.
Angel Castillo Malpica
analystPreston, I just wanted to go back to the discussion around the EPA '27. I think the 2027 dynamic for unit sales makes sense. But specifically to the ability to use credits to sell or to offset some of the [ NCPs ], just curious, why wouldn't that, I guess, create the ability for some competitors to ultimately sell the current engine at no incremental penalty. And then maybe to the extent that there is any implications of that, I guess, what are the impacts on potential for passing through price next year on the new engine or just competitive dynamics on price?
R. Feight
executiveYes. Angel, I don't tend to want to talk about what other competitors are going to do from their strategies. I can just kind of see what the public qualifications are out there, and I know where people to [ engines ] are qualified. And so what we see is if the engines are qualified at today's level, then the penalties are going to be that [ 6,000 to 7,000 ] range for kind of everybody. And of course, people...
Operator
operatorPlease hold, we are experiencing technical difficulties. Please stand by while we address the issue.
Unknown Executive
executiveJade, can you hear?
Operator
operatorYes. Thank you all for standing by. We will now resume the broadcast.
R. Feight
executiveSo Angel, if you're still there, I hope you could hear the answer. If not, let me know, and we'll come back through it.
Ken Hastings
executiveWe -- Jade, why don't we go to the next question, and Angel can get back in queue if he wants to do that again.
Angel Castillo Malpica
analystCan you hear me?
R. Feight
executiveYes, we got you. Ken?
Ken Hastings
executiveYes, go ahead.
Angel Castillo Malpica
analystPerfect. Yes, I guess just maybe switching gears a little bit. I wanted to ask a separate one. A little bit bigger picture and more technology. I guess I noticed one of your partners [ already ] had launched a second-generation hardware and driverless freight routes with the different OEM partners. Just give us an update on how some of your partnerships with [ a care are ] progressing, how you see that evolving over time? Just any kind of plans here to start kind of approving [ labels ] operations or just what your strategic kind of approach here is going to be on some of those autonomous innovation.
R. Feight
executiveYes. PACCAR is developing its autonomous vehicle platform. We're really happy with the progress we're making in that. We have good partners in [ Aurora ], and [ STACK ], and [ Kodiak ] and the others that we work with. So we feel good about the progress we are making on that and significant, but we have no plans to take the driver out at this point in time.
Operator
operatorYour next question comes from the line of Scott Group from Wolfe Research.
Scott Group
analystSo all we keep [ here ] from truckers is supply-driven cycle, rates are going up a lot, but demand sort of stable drivers, fewer drivers. Has that changed the way you think about what an up cycle could look like in terms of where orders and builds can go? Are you hearing about fleet growth? Or do you think that's less likely now? And the sort of supply-driven tightening?
R. Feight
executiveYes, it's a great question. I think that if you look at it in general, while freight tonnage index is increasing only modestly, it's at a high level. So it's not as if there's not a lot of freight being hauled out there. And I think with the GDP growth that the U.S. is experiencing, that's positive because as we all know, over 70% of the [ fee ] is moved by trucks. So as the economy grows, the truck grows, and I think that the reshoring and local-for-local efforts that are happening in the industrial base right now are good for trucks and especially good for PACCAR. So I think all of those things give us confidence in where the market should head towards in the coming year or [ here ].
Scott Group
analystOkay. And then just lastly, I've got one very short term and then one longer term. Mechanically, if someone placed in [ their ] mind was a prebuy for delivery in '26, like are they able to now push that to '27? Are you seeing that? And then maybe just my longer term, like thought like as we enter an up cycle, like where do you think ultimately gross margins can get to relative to where they've been in prior cycles?
R. Feight
executiveYes. I think what we think is that the -- there was many people thought that there would be a huge prebuy at the end of the year. And I think that what we kind of expect now is with the smart positioning that the EPA did, it will be just a continued improved cycle through the balance of the year with a stronger 2027 and not much drop off. And that feels pretty positive to me. And as far as the margins longer term, I think we've done a good job of investing in the right products so that our team has produced the best trucks that can be built. And I think we're building them in the right locations. So that's also positive for margin. And we feel good about the company's short, mid- and long-term performance.
Operator
operatorAt this time, there are no further questions in the queue. Are there any additional remarks from the company?
Ken Hastings
executiveWe'd like to thank everyone for joining the call, and thank you, operator, Jade.
Operator
operatorThank you as well. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes PACCAR's earnings call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.
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full-text search, and the recently-added /api/v1/transcripts/recent polling endpoint for ETL pipelines.