Parker-Hannifin Corporation (PH) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

February 16, 2021

New York Stock Exchange US Industrials Machinery conference_presentation 29 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#1

Perfect. Well, thank you, everyone, for joining. My name is Julian Mitchell. And it's my pleasure to have on now Tom Williams, Chairman and Chief Executive of Parker-Hannifin Corporation. Just a quick reminder, any questions anyone has, please e-mail me them, and I'll be sure to try and ask. Also, please, if you have a second, fill out the brief survey questions that you can see to the side of the screen. And so with that, I'll hand over to Tom for some quick remarks before our fireside chat.

Thomas Williams

executive
#2

Thank you, Julian, and welcome to everybody that's listening in. I was telling Julian earlier, it would have been nice if we were in Miami doing this, but this is the next best thing, and thank you for all your interest in Parker. I wanted to start with making a few comments on how the company has changed, in particular over the last 5 years. The word transformation is maybe overused, but clearly, there's something significantly different about the company. We'll give you some objective indicators to point that out. So the first would be, just look at how we performed during the pandemic. The last 3 quarters have been fantastic in how we've done it. Particularly, if you look at the last quarter, we had greater than 20% EBITDA margin, operating margin and CFOA margin. And so we're really proud of that. If you go back and look at how margins, EBITDA margin has done over the last 5 years, I want to use round numbers, it's increased by 500 basis points over the last 5 years. If you look at EPS, and I'm doing EPS on an adjusted basis, apples-to-apples, calculating the way we do it today, if you go back to FY '16, 5 years ago, it was around $7. And our guidance today is $13.90. So it's double -- almost double over that period of time. And the thing I would like to point out is that if you were to plot PMI over these 5 years, it'd be up, it'd be down. But the one thing that's been constant is this improvement from Parker. Margins are going up, cash flow is going up. EBITDA dollars are going up. EPS is going up. So the question might be, so why? Why is that happening? Why is it not correlated to PMI? Why -- how is this happening? And the short answer, it's performance and portfolio changes. The performance side is The Win Strategy, and it's the change that we've made with 2.0. And then most recently, 3.0, the third revision with The Win Strategy. And there's a tremendous amount of operating leverage and operating system improvements that came from both of those changes and then the portfolio changes that we made. If you look at CLARCOR, LORD and Exotic, all 3 of those deals were accretive on growth, accretive on cash, accretive on margins. And then if you put those together with what I would call our competitive advantage, kind of the strategic historical success factors of the company, which is our distribution channel, our decentralized structure, our low CapEx business model, high intellectual property, et cetera, the breadth of our technologies, that's kind of been our winning formula. And what I would suggest to people going forward is going to be the same thing. It's going to be equal to or better than what you saw before because I -- my view is the next 5 years is going to be a better macro environment than the last 5 years, and we have as much gas in the tank from a self-help standpoint as we had in the last 5 years. So we feel very good about the future, very bullish, and our best days are in front of us. And with that, I'll let Julian kick off the Q&A.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#3

Thank you, Tom. Perhaps just starting with the top line outlook. Maybe describe briefly the differences you see by geography at present within the industrial part of the company and how you assess the need, if any, for sort of restocking at any particular segment of customers or distributor and channel partners or whether you think it's, no, it's about end demand and that's what's moving things at the moment?

Thomas Williams

executive
#4

So let me start with maybe the regions. What we saw in the last quarter was international was positive 3% organic growth. And we -- of course, you saw the strongest order interest in international and pretty much across all 3 of the regions, with Latin America being our smallest but ended up the highest incremental gain, Asia being very strong and Europe doing quite nicely as well. So we feel pretty good about international showing progress across pretty much all 3 of the areas, the geographies. North America was still slightly negative, minus 6, but it was half of what we thought it was going to be. So we saw a nice improvement in North America. Orders turned positive for the first time, and really industrial orders turned positive the first time since September 2018. And so those all felt very good. And it was pretty broad-based when you look at end markets. And then when I think about stock, demand, that kind of question, with our OEMs, it's pretty much all in demand. They've, over the years, moved to relying on us for our supply chain, our real-time [ compound ] service to them. So they really have very little inventory in their system. So whatever you see on the OEM side is real demand on orders. For distribution, we did see some selective restocking, but more so for those long lead time items. And the way they laid the orders and they lay them in with release dates that are out multiple quarters. So it's not -- you can't necessarily look at our order interest and say, "well, that should flow out in this quarter or the next quarter," because a lot of those orders had release dates that were several quarters out into the future. I think that's a good sign where distributors are starting to feel more bullish, in particular, investing in those longer lead times, so they can position themselves for the upturn and take share with those kind of products.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#5

And maybe looking out beyond the very short term, Parker has seen a number of sort of dips and recoveries over the last 10 or 12 years. Very different sort of slopes depending on each one. A big bounce in '11, a shallow one in '14, then a stronger bounce in '17. How would you -- it's really early, of course. Your orders just turned a few months ago, but what are your sort of perspectives, having seen a bunch of these cycles on the shape or slope of the upcoming one, particularly in industrial? Aero has its own dynamics. But on the industrial side, in particular?

Thomas Williams

executive
#6

I think I feel pretty good about the industrial piece. Now exactly what the slope is going to look like, that's up for grabs here. But there's a couple of dynamics that I think are in our favor. I think there is a bit of a pent-up infrastructure need because, again, using the last 5 years as the time frame, there was 2 industrial recessions and a pandemic. So I think there's some infrastructure needs across the world. I think you got a great environment, low interest rates. You have stimulus that's already been spent. And whether it'll be more stimulus, it seems likely. But even without that, I think that bodes well. And so I like our exposure in the [ end ] markets, if you go through the various end markets. I like where we are in that cycle. And then aerospace will be a longer -- but we're sized to win in aerospace today. As it improves, we'll see nice incrementals as this improves. But obviously, industrials are going to outpace the rate of improvement with the aerospace. The reason why I feel good about it is I just look at the last 5 years and what we went through and the gains the company showed. We're going to have a better top line environment in the next 5 years. The odds are clearly in our favor to have that. Exactly what it will be, we don't know. We never try to be dependent on revenue. We try to make sure we have enough of our own self-help. And I think we could do that even with minimal revenue gains.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#7

Perfect. And Tom, I think there's been rightly a lot of emphasis on the margin performance at Parker. But perhaps looking at the top line, there's a growth aspiration, of course, as well within whatever macro environment there is. So how would you assess the company's sort of performance relative to its markets, relative to its competitors? Are there any specific areas you think this is where Parker is doing very well on market share, for example, or big priorities for share gains in the medium term?

Thomas Williams

executive
#8

Yes. So we just did this for the Board. And we outgrew GIPI over the last 5 years, and we outgrew our peers over the last 5 years. But that's still an opportunity that we think we can explore more on. And if I look at the 4 breakthroughs of the company: 0 accidents, likely to recommend, growing 150 basis points greater than GIPI and growing earnings 10% year-over-year, the one I think is the one that is probably the most -- obviously, getting to 0 safety incidents is a big challenge. But being consistently growing faster in the market is one that we were focusing on. And there's a lot of things we're doing on that. So we made a bunch of changes on innovation, our product vitality index, New Product Blueprinting and training our engineers. Simple by Design will be a margin enhancement, as also speed to market, and it will allow us to penetrate some customers where we are not competitive today, where we redesign a product and get in there and be more competitive, so it's a share gain opportunity. International distribution is still an opportunity that we continue to shift that mix. Our new incentive plan around ACIP is a big deal. And so that's -- all those things together are what I can call the things we can do ourselves to improve organic growth. And then on the portfolio side, it's buying companies that grow better than what we've done historically. And so in the first year, it shows up as an acquisition revenue. In the second year, it's organic revenue. And that's what we've seen with LORD and Exotic and CLARCOR. They've helped us on the top line. And even in the down period, they've been more resilient and actually, LORD grew in the last quarter mid-single digits versus declining in the rest of the company. So portfolio changes as well as the things I said on the organic performance pieces is how we'll grow differently.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#9

Perfect. And you mentioned CLARCOR a few years ago. More recently, the LORD and Exotic deals, as it had all been in the portfolio for some period now, maybe there's any impressions you could give us on how satisfied you are with the integration process. Any main learnings as you think about perhaps starting to go on the offense, again, reasonably soon on capital deployment?

Thomas Williams

executive
#10

Yes. I could not be happier with all 3 of those deals. If I maybe just take one at a time. Now CLARCOR has been completely blended in. So I'm really going to refer to filtration as a whole. But filtration has been much more resilient than the rest of the company. So the rest of the company, I would say, wherever you see the rest of the company at, filtration's half that decline whenever we go down. Now on the upside, filtration is a little more steady eddy because it's a heavy annuity revenue stream versus what CLARCOR brought, 80% aftermarket. So it will be much more of an annuity revenue stream for us, horizontal on the downside, not giant inflections on the upside. EBITDA margins well north of the total company, EBITDA margins in that kind of low to mid-20s. LORD does come in and just couldn't be happier with LORD. LORD grew mid-single digits last quarter, benefiting from really the automotive exposure it has, in particular, the EV and HEV exposure that it has and the whole electrification of everything and all of its thermal management, adhesives and coating technologies going into that. And recognize, LORD put in a positive mid-single digits with 1/3 of its business being exposed to aerospace. So it just shows you how good, how strong that portfolio is. And then Exotic actually declined a little bit better than legacy aerospace. And Exotic kind of had the worst of the aerospace decline because it had exposure on the MAX more so than legacy aerospace, and it had the pandemic. But it's done extremely well. It's 60% military, which has been huge, and it's on the right military programs. And its EBITDA margins in mid-20s. And of course, LORD's are in the upper 20s. So where can I sign up to do more of those? I mean that's -- I want a steady diet of those 3 kind of deals. And so when we look going forward, that's -- we're going to continue to look at those type of properties. We're happy to look within the 8 motion and control technologies. I think we've gained a lot of confidence in how we do our integration teams, how we form them, what works, what doesn't work. We clearly like things in the spaces where we understand the customer and the end markets. And we bring -- and the acquisition brings complementary technologies because that's -- if you think about all 3 of those deals, that was kind of the formula for all 3 of those deals.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#11

Perfect. And I think the leverage is coming down quicker than people had expected, certainly, 9 months ago, very good cash flow. And now the EBITDA will accelerate its recovery. How quickly should investors expect that Parker might look to start undertaking transactions of size again? When do you feel comfortable sort of putting that on the balance sheet, and also putting it on to the organization at a time of very fast-changing macro backdrops?

Thomas Williams

executive
#12

Yes. That's a good question. Actually, the organization has an interesting perspective. I think the organization is shopping up a bit actually to do an acquisition. And it's gained a lot of confidence. When we first did CLARCOR, I think the organization was, "Wow! Okay, that's pretty big." And now people didn't bat an eye with the other 2 deals. I think we've built that muscle memory in there. I think come summer, we're clearly ready to do something like that. I'd tell you, we continue to work that acquisition pipeline. The relationships we work continuously, whether we have the dry powder or not. But our capital deployment strategy, I think the first thing you're going to see is in April. We're going to raise the dividend. We just haven't decided the amount. It's obviously up for Board approval. But we're going to raise the dividend and continue our track record of 65 years of accounting. So that's the first step, I think, you see of capital deployment. We obviously continue to do organic investments in the company. But then we'll look at the acquisitions versus share repurchase. Really in the summertime, if we've got the capacity to do either one of them, our preference is to do acquisitions because it grows cash. It grows EBITDA. But we're a great investment. And we're -- I don't feel any pressure to just buy a company for the sake of buying something. We'd be happy to invest in Parker. But we'll work the pipeline and we'll be selective. And I think you'll continue to see us buy things that fit the formula you've seen us do the last 3 deals.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#13

And I suppose we're in a slightly different universe on valuation multiples today in the broader market than the past few years. Is that a big challenge limiting Parker's M&A funnel? Or because of the areas you're looking at, the synergies you can get from bringing businesses in that are close to what you have already, you can still find a sufficient number of attractive deals financially?

Thomas Williams

executive
#14

Yes. I think in general, I've not really seen, at least within our space, valuations change much over the last -- I think they've been elevated and stayed elevated, to your point. The reason why we can make these deals work is we buy things that are great strategic fits, where the combinations of 1 plus 1 equals 3. And so we can get these synergies that are at first blush are significant, but then we can execute on them, and we actually beat them most of the time, our synergies. So we get it to -- you get the headline EBITDA multiple, and then you get the synergized EBITDA multiple. As long as the synergized EBITDA multiple looks, relative to us, reasonable, then we're happy to do these, and they're accretive and have the right kind of ROICs for our shareholders. And hopefully, our shareholders feel confident in our selection process and our execution process that are based on what we've done in the last several deals.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#15

And when you look at sort of the base business, very good performance on decremental margins over the past year or so. As we look at the recovery beyond just the next quarter or 2, what sort of operating leverage on the way up should investors expect? And do you see a big risk that in fiscal '22, as those discretionary costs come back, that acts as a big anchor on the operating leverage?

Thomas Williams

executive
#16

Yes, I'm glad you brought it up because I want to clarify because I think people maybe read more into my comments on the earnings call than maybe was necessary because we feel very confident that we're going to put in a 30% to 35% incremental, even with those tough comps. I'm talking about an incremental MROS, margin return on sales, with the tough comps, our toughest being in Q4, and it gets a little bit easier as we go into the first half of '22. So my point there was, if you didn't have those tough comps, you'd be experiencing incrementals like you maybe historically would see Parker put up at the beginning of the cycle, 50%, 60% incremental. And that's really what the underlying business is going to do. What you'll see externally is a 30% to 35% incremental, which are still best-in-class, as you study these over the cycle. Once you go beyond that, we'll be able to hurdle any of the costs that are coming in, still put in the 30%-plus incremental when you look at the full year for FY '22. We've got the permanent savings that are going to stick. We've got Win 3.0 that's got all kinds of legs to it. And we're already proving, as we start to glide down the discretionary, that we can put up really strong incrementals. I mean our incrementals have been favorable. We've had less revenue and higher earnings. So people haven't even been able to see these incrementals because it's -- you can't calculate it with less earnings -- I mean, less revenue.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#17

Yes. And looking out, I suppose, you have the medium-term margin assumptions that you've laid out at the Investor Day, for example, early last year. Any reason when you look at Parker's businesses today, how they've performed recently, where the peers are? Could you see those EBITDA margins moving into that low mid-20s range, where some of those recent acquisitions have brought margins, for example?

Thomas Williams

executive
#18

Yes. I'm going to give you the short answer, and I'll give it a long one. The short answer is no way. I see no reason why we can't go past that. And I want people to look at our targets as a division -- and I've used this analogy before. You're driving down the highway. It's a mile marker. It's not an excellent sight. We're going to get off of this target, and we won't get any better. We're going to continue to improve and go past those mile markers. And I think, again, going back to what people have seen us do, we started off in FY '15 with a margin target of 15%, then it went to 17%, 19%, 21%. So we've not hesitated. I would just tell you that it's an important morale thing for our team members to give people the sense of accomplishment and achievement to actually hit the target. We don't want to pull the ball away for them before they actually get a chance to kick it into the goal. And so we're going to get on top of the target, and then we'll update it again. But if I go through Win 3.0, almost everything about it is enhancing growth or enhancing cash or margins. The kaizen work, high-performance teams, all the things that are happening in our engagement, our digital leadership and 0 defect process underneath customer experience, underneath profitable growth, all the things we mentioned earlier about how we're going to try to grow differently, the financial performance, it's got that while I call that foundation of lean supply chain and pricing, and then you've got simplification on top of that and most importantly, most recently, the Simple by Design processes that's got nice long-term margin enhancement. So I think you're going to continue -- 500 bps the last 5 years, I think you're going to continue to see us improve. Maybe that's a pretty tough pace, but you can kind of continue to see us improve.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#19

And on the Aerospace division, in particular, I think the old peak margin was around 20%, just over on an adjusted sort of operating margin basis. How long do you think it takes to get back to that sort of level? Do you need to see passenger air traffic, for example, get back to 2019 marks? Or can you get the margins higher in Aerospace before you see that traffic return to the old peak?

Thomas Williams

executive
#20

I don't -- I'm going to answer probably a little more generally. I don't think we need to get back to prior period revenues to get back to prior period margins. I think we can bring margins back sooner. And I feel that way because we've been -- we've significantly restructured Aerospace. We took 25% of our people out, which was not easy to do. It was a tough decision, but we sized it to make sure we had the right kind of returns in the current climate. The whole question mark with Aerospace is what is the glide path. Almost everybody believes you're finding bottom. And you'll get 1,000 people who will all say 1,000 different ways it's going to glide up. But I think you're going to see 30%-plus incrementals as we glide up. And you'll see us get back to those margins. And I think within a couple of years, you'll see Aerospace margins at the levels that you'll see industrial margins at. And I think you'll see all 3 segments performing in a pretty tight band on margins.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#21

And on the industrial international business on that point, maybe update us sort of how satisfied you are with that distribution push with making the most of the margins in different regions where the margins are there to be earned. How much runway do you think there is on that international margin aspect? I think North America is very well developed and mature to an extent. International, there's a lot more room for variation.

Thomas Williams

executive
#22

Yes, I still feel good about that. So the 500 bps keeps coming up, so we improved that 500 basis points mix over the last 5 years. And I think that's really our goal, about 100 bps mix change every year -- last time we disclosed that number is around 40%, 40-60. And so I think that's -- our teams are on that. We don't want to get there because the OEM channel declined. So I think we want to calculate that once things stabilize a little bit to make sure that's more reflective of actual activity. But we have -- we've made a tremendous amount of progress there. And I think that's got a lot of legs. Now that -- to get towards 50-50, it's probably a decade-long process. But that is one of the reasons why international margins have pretty much mirrored North America the mix shift. We did a tremendous amount of restructuring in international, really early days, 14 to 15. The international team has done great with The Win Strategy as well. And if you look at the margins now, years ago, we would have killed to have international, North America about the same, and that's pretty much what you've got today.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#23

And on the free cash flow side, Tom, exceptional free cash flow margin in the 6 months up to the end of December, 19%. Realize that will normalize perhaps with working capital moves and some CapEx normalization. But beyond this year, should we expect free cash flow margins to sort of move up along -- not in lockstep, but broadly alongside the operating margins?

Thomas Williams

executive
#24

Yes, I think that's a good assumption. We actually have a graph, which I'm not sure if we've been public with it yet, but if you graph -- you've mentioned free cash flow, but I'll talk about CFOA here for a second. Look at CFOA margins. We've been very proud. It's been over 10% for 19 years. If you look at the last number of years, it's like at a 45-degree slope, and it's mirroring the slope of margins. Now free cash flow is at 19% year-to-date. That's difficult to maintain as we're going to have orders come back and a little more pressure on working capital. However, our free cash flow margins in that 12% to 13% pre-pandemic are going to be higher. And I think you could probably make an assumption it's going to be mid-teens, plus or minus some amount. And that's really probably the new threshold that we're going to perform at. And it's -- to your point, it's mirroring the operating margin improvement. And we'll do a good job managing working capital. We do that all the time. It just -- it will be hard to stay at 19% with that. But clearly, the mid-teens is where you should expect us.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#25

Great. And one question we get sometimes, I've just had a question on it, is around acquisitions have been very, very successful. Any thoughts around divestments? How rigorous is the sort of portfolio review program at Parker with you and the Board and the rest of the management?

Thomas Williams

executive
#26

Yes, it's really rigorous. You haven't seen us do a lot yet because nothing really has risen to that yet. However, it doesn't mean that we're not looking at it. So I just did this with the Board in January. We do have an annual best owner review. We look at returns and growth, the normal suite of metrics and how it compares to every division across the company. And it's something we look at. And if I would not -- I would guarantee that shareholders are listening in, if we feel for a second we're not the best owner, we're going to have to divest of it. At this point, the way I've described it, if you think about our 8 motion and control technologies as major trunks of a tree, we like all of those major trunks. But the individual branches that come off of that is something we look at all the time. And you've got to earn your keep to be part of the family. And obviously, I don't disclose those in advance, but it's something that we look at rigorously.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#27

And Tom, perhaps one aspect on business model. You mentioned sort of operating changes or improvements around lean and Win and 80/20 type initiatives. How about in terms of making the business more recurring, less volatile revenue-wise and that can sort of decouple that -- over time, will decouple the stock from that sort of PMI yoke that you mentioned at the very beginning? Where do you think we are on that business model improvement aspect? What other things is Parker doing to sort of upgrade that recurring nature of the business?

Thomas Williams

executive
#28

So a couple of things. Hopefully, my opening comments debunked the PMI thing because there is no correlation between PMI and our EPS and EBITDA growth. Just go plot the last 5 years for yourselves if you don't believe me. But on the top line, it's a combination of portfolio and then organic things. So the portfolio changes we did, the last 3 acquisitions, went a long way -- look at how we declined in the pandemic versus, say, the financial crisis, was about 1/3 better. We did much better on this. And we'll continue to use innovation, continue to shift the mix and continue to buy companies that will have that kind of growth dynamics. And you'll continue to see us be more resilient.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#29

Perfect. Good. Well, I think we're out of time, unfortunately. Thank you very much, Tom. Good luck with the meetings the rest of today, and we look forward to talking soon.

Thomas Williams

executive
#30

Thank you, Julian. Thank you, everybody, for listening in. Take care.

Julian Mitchell

analyst
#31

Bye-bye.

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