Parker-Hannifin Corporation (PH) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

February 23, 2023

New York Stock Exchange US Industrials Machinery conference_presentation 41 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Timothy Thein

analyst
#1

All right. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for coming out Day 3 of what has been a great global industrial conference here at Citi. I'm Tim Thein, pleased to have Todd Leombruno, CFO of Parker with us. Thanks, again, Todd, for coming out. It's great to see you.

Todd Leombruno

executive
#2

Tim, it's great to be here. Welcome back to coverage of Parker. We missed you for a while.

Timothy Thein

analyst
#3

Yes, it's quite a while. Yes. So if someone coming back to the Parker story after being on the sidelines for a bit, it would -- it almost feels like it's a different company and one that historically was like a global PMI on steroids play and that's transformed quite a bit, obviously, over time. But maybe if someone newer to the Parker story, today how the company is positioned relative to maybe what you would think of a Parker as old.

Todd Leombruno

executive
#4

Yes. Tim, you're absolutely correct. The company is a different company that's been the last 3 years, the last 5 years, really, certainly the last 10 years. We've spent a lot of time focusing on the portfolio, right? And certainly, the acquisitions that we've done have changed the company in a way that really has made a difference in our profile. If you go back to 2017 when we acquired CLARCOR, that doubled our filtration group that added a significant amount of filtration aftermarket business to the portfolio. Roughly in 2020, we acquired Lord Corporation, which really doubled the size of our Engineered Materials business, brought a significant amount of technology around ceiling, shielding and adhesives to the company. And that really kind of accelerated our positioning in the electrification space. And then shortly, around that same time period, we added exotic metal forming, which was a significant engine component supplier in the aerospace markets. Very precise, very technical engineered products that certainly are mission critical to a number of different aerospace applications. And then just September, not too long ago, we closed Meggitt PLC, which was a large U.K. publicly held company that basically doubled our aerospace presence. And it's early days on that. We've only owned it for 4 months, but the signs are extremely positive and that the synergies and the plans that we have captured for that are certainly on track. So certainly, we've changed it from an acquisitive standpoint. But if you look at really the way the company has invested organically over many years, we have been really trying to move the company from a short-cycle industrial play, like you said, to more of a longer cycle diversified company. And we really feel like we are positioned for whatever the economy holds for us coming forward. If you look at the performance of the company, the last 8 years have been fantastic. We've expanded EBITDA margins by 800-plus basis points. And when you look at the breakdown of that, about 80% of that improvement has come from the base legacy business and about 20% of that has come from those acquisitions that I've listed. So we've never been bigger. We've never been more profitable. We've never generated more cash. We've never generated EPS at this level, and we're fully committed to our FY '27 targets, which is the largest increase in our targets that we've ever had as a company. So the company is in good hands.

Timothy Thein

analyst
#5

Yes. Speaking of which, there's new leadership with Jenny taking over. Tom, was very highly regarded and respected in the industry. Just maybe talk to -- is there -- are there areas of emphasis that you expect to...

Todd Leombruno

executive
#6

Yes. So Tom, obviously, was wonderful, he changed the companies and changed our company in many, many ways. And we are certainly glad he's agreed to stay on as Executive Chair through December. But Jenny has been part of the management team for some time now. And she's been with the company for 15 years. And I would tell you every position that she's had within the company, she's outperformed. So we are in great hands with Jenny. She's been part of our Win Strategy 3.0. She's been part of the Meggitt transaction. She was our COO for over 1.5 years. So she is totally versed with the strategy of the company, what's been going on with the company. She's had her fingerprints on it. And we're going to continue on with the path that Tom set us on. Jenny, one of her areas of expertise is supply chain. Her background comes from automotive. Supply chain, so she understands the complexities of the supply chain. She has lived it. She's been in operations her entire time with our company. And I think she thinks we can move from better where we're at today to best-in-class top quartile performance from a supply chain standpoint. And we think that, that will help us grow differently. Certainly, that's going to help us expand margins. And really, we've had a longtime focus on customer experience. And we think that what everyone has gone through over the last 3 years, especially if you're an end customer, it has been a challenge, right? And we think that we can alleviate some additional pain that our customers feel by being world-class in our supply chain operations. So I think that's where you'll see Jenny focus immediately. But she's also very similar to Tom, focused on us being the safest industrial company in the world, making sure that our team members are engaged and empowered to make decisions, and that's probably the areas that you will focus on initially first.

Timothy Thein

analyst
#7

Got it. Maybe just switching gears. The macro environment obviously did some cross currents in certain geographies. You guys have a good pulse and good lens into that just given your diversity. What are you seeing across your major markets?

Todd Leombruno

executive
#8

Yes. So when you look at the company today, the exposure we have to aerospace is probably 30% of the total company, not just the Aerospace Systems segment sales that we report, but the aerospace end markets that happen to be in our Industrial segment just based on the fact that it might be a ceiling technology or a filtration technology. So the aerospace markets are recovering fast. I'm sure everyone flew here today. I'm sure there wasn't an empty seat anywhere on the planes that you came on, and that's a good thing for us. So aerospace is really booming. When you look at our North American businesses, they are hanging in there extremely well. Demand very broad-based, very robust. If you look at what we just did in the first half, I think we did -- total company was about 14%, 13.5% in organic growth. We just did 10% in Q2. We doubled our North American guidance from 2.5% to 5% for Q3. So we're starting to see comps become a little bit of an issue. But North America is pretty sound. Where we do see some softness is in the international businesses. And the biggest is probably Asia Pacific, mainly China. But really, that has been a little bit of the COVID start-up and shutdowns a little bit of -- we had Chinese New Year just recently all in the month of January. So there's a little bit of just growing pains, I guess, I would call that. We don't see that to be a long-term issue, but there has been some softness in Asia Pac. And then Europe, although I think it's less bad than we feared with the Ukraine-Russia crisis and the concerns about energy, those have turned out to be less bad, but there's still some softness across certain areas in Europe. So we're watching that as well.

Timothy Thein

analyst
#9

And back to the China point, some of your mobile customers there can -- when things turn on, they can turn on pretty quickly historically. I mean, is that...

Todd Leombruno

executive
#10

Yes. I mean mobile construction in China is probably where we've seen the weakest of the markets. But again, the beauty of Parker-Hannifin is the diversity of the product lines, the diversity of the end markets, and you're right, it will bounce back quickly.

Timothy Thein

analyst
#11

Yes. Back to the point about order rates, not just North America, but maybe focusing there. In this environment of supply chains being so constrained, there's this notion that if I really need 10, I'm going to throw in an order for 15 on the basis that...

Todd Leombruno

executive
#12

We've heard that. We've vetted that across our businesses. And we've been doing this for quite some time now, making sure that we're serving our customers in the best way possible. In order to do that, you really need to be transparent with the information. We have not found anywhere across the business that there is intentional double ordering by any stretch of imagination. So we feel good that the backlog is the backlog. Now we've been very cautious about this because we have seen in previous cycles where the backlog does get pushed out. So we haven't seen much of that yet. We haven't seen any material amounts to make us concerned. But we're preparing for that just in case it happens to occur. But right now, demand seems to be holding in.

Timothy Thein

analyst
#13

Yes. Maybe on just inventories in the channel, not only Parker inventories, you've lens into your distributor inventories and then end customers. Anything that can give you concerns?

Todd Leombruno

executive
#14

No. It's been hard. I'll start with the distribution network. It's been hard for our distributors to restock, right? It's really been coming out of the pandemic, the demand has really been very much connected to end customer demand. So most of our distributors haven't been able to get their stocking levels where they would like them to be. Now our distributors are hearing all the worrying signs that we're all hearing as well. So I think we're starting to see some rebalancing in that distribution network. But by no stretch as there have been a movement to restock yet. On the OEM side, again, we've been curious about that. If you remember in our Q2 call, we said, hey, we wanted to see what our Q1 call -- I should say, we wanted to see what happened when we came back after the end of the year and see what happened in January. We didn't see any push-outs on that. So we feel good about where the OEMs are at. But again, we're being very cautious here to make sure that we're not over building and we haven't seen any signs of that across the business yet.

Timothy Thein

analyst
#15

You're seeing pushouts of the remaining...

Todd Leombruno

executive
#16

Correct. Yes, nothing material to make us worry about the near term.

Timothy Thein

analyst
#17

Got it. Got it. Sticking on industrial, and we can move to Aero in a bit. But North America being a hugely important market for you. I mean there's -- in the last whatever, 2 days here. I mean there's been a consistent refrain around some of these megatrends and pointing to some potential CapEx cycle kind of a reindustrialization in North America? How -- Where do you guys...

Todd Leombruno

executive
#18

We do believe in that. We totally believe in that. We have been monitoring all those projects. We think it's a plus for a company like Parker. We've seen the -- there's billions of dollars of new infrastructure projects around all the things that we've been talking about, electrification, semicon, ESG-type clean tech technologies. So our portfolio supports that, and we feel ready to capture that. And I would tell you that and just this pent-up maybe a decade of underspending in the CapEx space has really given us confidence that this time we feel like we can grow differently than we have in the past. That is one of the reasons why we changed our growth target from being a GPIs number to a 4% to 6% organic growth over the cycle through FY '27. We're starting to see some evidence of reshoring, right, kind of localizing of the supply chain. We're doing a little bit of that within our company. So we're doing that as well. We're seeing some of our suppliers and some of our customers do that as well. And I think we'll be able to benefit from that localization of the supply chain as well. So that's been all the plus. When you look at what we've done with the portfolio, the portfolio is ready to expand as those CapEx projects come online. So we feel really positive about our future.

Timothy Thein

analyst
#19

To that last point that you would see that in your traditional stationary -- for example, where Parker would participate in the example you gave?

Todd Leombruno

executive
#20

Well, we're seeing it in all of our traditional markets, but really, when you look at something like the Lord products and the LORD technologies, that really has accelerated our presence on electric passenger vehicles, for example, right? A lot of the cooling and thermal management around the battery case, those are technologies that we wouldn't have had 5 years ago. When you look at the content that we have on an electric vehicle, it's a factor of 2x what we would have had in traditional partner product lines. So that has been a real plus for our Engineered Materials business.

Timothy Thein

analyst
#21

Got it. Maybe we can shift gears to margins. You mentioned earlier, the company has kind of raised the bar over time and put out a pretty lofty target for '27.

Todd Leombruno

executive
#22

We did, yes. We're confident in those targets.

Timothy Thein

analyst
#23

Yes. Simplification being one of them, I can remember years ago, one of these Fluid Power shows talking to a Parker employee. He was talking about his group within Parker was one of like 130 and they had its own GM, it's own account. So that kind of stuff seemed like a lot of easy -- kind of low-hanging fruit, but you're still talking about it.

Todd Leombruno

executive
#24

So yes, we still are talking about it. So to your point, if you look at the company today, and I would be adding the acquisitions that we made -- in the traditional Parker, we would have probably had over 140 divisions. Today, we have -- including Meggitt now, we have 95. So we've really reduced the number of divisions. Tim, to your point, those divisions would have an SG&A layer in them. And what we found is that we found that we can combine those businesses, and that gives them economies of scale to invest in new markets and new technologies it simplifies their interactions with the end customers. And that has really been a positive across the company. So the majority of that has been done. There still is a few that we think we could probably benefit from combining but also those divisions would have rolled up into what was 8 business groups. We now have 5. So we've consolidated 8 to 5. And we think that that's probably the right number. But that's just an example of simplification from an SG&A standpoint. We are constantly doing like a layers and spans is what we call it analysis to make sure that our resources are best deployed in areas that are growing and areas that have margin expansion capabilities, and that is a big plus. Simplification for us is a big umbrella. Maybe the biggest driver of that is this concept that we've labeled Simple by Design. And that's really attacking the way we design our product, not the way we manufacture it, we capture cost out through our Lean processes, our pricing processes, our supply chain processes on our conversion part of it, this is really looking at the way we design the product and the way we design the product for reuse, for commonality, for environmental purposes and really for flow. So sometimes we can design a wonderful product that's really kind of hard to make. And what we're really trying to capture with this Simple by Design is making sure we design the best product, but it's also the easiest to make. And that improves our efficiency. It takes cost out, it expands margin. It really allows us to make more, which ultimately leads to higher growth. So this is a longer-term program for us, but we feel really positive. And the early returns on what we've seen out of Simple by Design.

Timothy Thein

analyst
#25

I'll pause there, see if any questions from there.

Todd Leombruno

executive
#26

Yes, we've got 1 on the front.

Timothy Thein

analyst
#27

There you go.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#28

[indiscernible] and Meggitt in particular, and are revenue synergies baked into your FY '27 targets?

Todd Leombruno

executive
#29

That's a great question. So we have not baked any revenue synergies into any of the acquisitions that we've done. There will be revenue synergies from those acquisitions, but we feel more comfortable justifying the transaction on cost synergies. And if you look at what we've done with CLARCOR, which was -- it's been 2017, so it's been a while now. But that was our first big transaction. We exceeded the synergy targets in CLARCOR by, I think, 2 years. If you look at the next big transaction, LORD, we exceeded those a year early. Exotic didn't have a ton of synergies because that was kind of a unique stand-alone business, but we've got that on the cost and the revenue side of that. And then when you look at Meggitt, the $300 million of synergies that we're committing to, those are all cost synergies. There are no revenue synergies in that model. But to your point, there will be revenue synergies that come from that. When you look at what Meggitt brought, very much complementary technologies, technologies and spaces that we did not play, heavy airplane braking systems, fire suppression systems, sensing systems. A lot of environmental technologies in the aircraft space. These are all additions to our portfolio. But when you look at the customer list, the customer list -- you took our top 10 customers and you took the Meggitt top 10 customers, we got bigger with every single one of those customers on our list. What that has already done is that's put us in a different type of conversation with those customers and the engineering expertise that we now have has expanded and become more meaningful to those end customers. So we're already starting to see seeds planted that will bring larger opportunities than what maybe Meggitt could have gotten on their own or maybe what Parker would have gotten on our own. So we feel really good about that. And I would say that we've seen the same thing when you look at LORD, Exotic and CLARCOR.

Timothy Thein

analyst
#30

You talked about the simplification distribution, obviously, a really important asset of Parker. I'm curious if Lee were here, and we said, okay, if distribution in North America is a 10, where would you say Europe and Asia would be from that [indiscernible] standpoint?

Todd Leombruno

executive
#31

So you're saying -- so those that don't know, 50% of our industrial business goes through a very unique independent distribution network. These -- there are 17,000-some outlets of our distributors across the world. And what's unique about those distributors is their bill of material -- roughly 85% of their bill of material is Parker only product. We try not to allow them to compete with other competing product lines. The reason we're able to do that is just the breadth of our product line. We cover the entire motion control space. So it makes it easy for us to offer everything that a motion control type distributor would need in the space. Our North American distribution base is the oldest, most mature second to none in this space. And I would rate them at 10, by the way, from a scale, scope, an application expertise standpoint. And the other thing that people sometimes wonder about our distribution network, they are not just handing our parts to other customers. They are further applying engineering expertise of our technologies to their end customers. So they're really an extension, they're really kind of an extension of our application expertise. So America, North America would be 10 on that. We have had a conservative initiative to grow our international distribution. The reason we like that is because it's higher-margin product, it does lend itself to be more aftermarket in nature. And it just allows us to reach customers that we could not reach as a company ourselves. So we set out a target to increase our international distribution 100 basis points, the mix between OEM and distribution 100 basis points a year and we've done that for the last 5 years. We're still not in the 10 by any stretch of imagination in the international space. I would rate Europe probably 7, maybe I would rate Asia Pacific, 5 or 6. So there still is room to grow on that. And that is part of our path to our '27 margin target is to continue to expand the presence of our international distribution. And I think we have answered that the same way.

Timothy Thein

analyst
#32

Got it. The 85% of their COGS, that number, I always remember it being like 2/3.

Todd Leombruno

executive
#33

It's -- it would vary across the type of distributor that it is. We have some distributors that might just distribute our filtration technologies. We have some that would distribute all of those technologies, but it would vary by -- distributors wants these desires and the end markets that they serve. But either number, it's a significant amount of their bill of material. It allows us to pass price on. Price has been a hot topic over the last 1.5 years. We have constantly passed price on through our distribution network. They have the ability to pass that on to their end customers. We have never given price back in that space in 107 years of Parker-Hannifin and we don't plan to give that back in the future. It's solid pricing, it sticks. And every year, we continue to drive that forward. And really what allows us to do that is just the value that the products bring, right? There is tons of engineering, there's tons of IP that is wrapped in these products and really commands in the space.

Timothy Thein

analyst
#34

We shift to aerospace, obviously, becoming a bigger part of the Parker story, as you mentioned, kind of booming markets on the commercial side, booming maybe too much from a -- the supply chain's ability to handle...

Todd Leombruno

executive
#35

Yes, the supply chain across aerospace is catching up. You look at the OEM -- commercial OEM, it is very strong. The commercial MRO has certainly come back as flight miles have increased. During the pandemic, we did see growth in the military OEM products, that has kind of pulled back a little bit. I think the -- they may be hold a little bit ahead to kind of keep that supply chain healthy throughout the pandemic. So we're seeing that be a little bit negative, but we see that as only a short-term issue. And then military MRO, while less positive than the commercial MRO, still positive. So we like where aerospace is at. If you look at the company, the company has exposure now, roughly 30% of the total company is aerospace and market-driven. And we're still not past pre-pandemic flight miles. So we like the long-term trajectory of what aerospace can do from a growth standpoint. When you look at what we're guiding forward, we have aerospace mid-single digits of growth, Meggitt would be a little bit higher than that just because they tended to drop a little bit lower than we did throughout the pandemic. But aerospace from a long-term growth perspective, we feel really good about.

Timothy Thein

analyst
#36

Yes. The dislocation in terms -- or is there much by way of a dislocation in terms of what your shipping to the airframe makers versus what they're producing. I'm thinking from a Boeing perspective, i.e., is there production not necessarily matched with what you're shipping to them?

Todd Leombruno

executive
#37

I mean, are they building inventory, are you saying?

Timothy Thein

analyst
#38

Or are they shipping stuff out that already had Parker products on it?

Todd Leombruno

executive
#39

Yes. I don't -- I haven't heard any disconnect between what they're shipping and product wise versus what we're pulling in. I would tell you that you've heard the well-documented supply chain challenges that the whole world has gone through over the last couple of years. I think aerospace is going through a little bit of that now just because they didn't have the demand and the need and the volumes in the depths of the pandemic. So there may be a little bit behind the rest of the industrial world, but we're managing through that just like we managed through the industrial supply chain challenges. The OEM bills are ramping. That's requiring more content, and we're doing our best to satisfy those customers.

Timothy Thein

analyst
#40

Are you having to provide support to maybe your Tier 2 or Tier 3 customers? Can you kind of help them along?

Todd Leombruno

executive
#41

I think we've constantly done that. The supplier relationship is a very intimate relationship, and we are very committed to that. Most of our aerospace business for years, at least on the legacy side of the business has been kind of a design, assembly and test model. So we have been very intimate with our supply chain for some time and we're helping them as best as we can as the ramp continues.

Timothy Thein

analyst
#42

Yes. It's just more kind of shorter-term focus. But typically, from a seasonal perspective, your fiscal fourth quarter tends to be -- seeing an uptick, you've got kind of that budget flush and kind of preparing for the summer.

Todd Leombruno

executive
#43

Yes, many years, that has been the case. We hope that, that's the case this year, right? When you look at the comps over our Q4, which is calendar year Q2 for other companies, the comps are really difficult because that's really when the growth started to bounce back in a big way. So we're not guiding for a huge organic growth number. But if you look at it sequentially, it's continuing to increase. So I think we'll feel better about that once we get through in the next couple of months here. We'll come out with a guide once we finish our Q3, and we'll give you our best look on that. But right now, it's really more of a comp issue than a demand issue.

Timothy Thein

analyst
#44

Got it. And from an expense standpoint for Aero is, I guess, take Meggitt out of the equation on that number. I remember years ago, it got up high as like 12% or 13%.

Todd Leombruno

executive
#45

Oh, yes. You're talking the nonrecurring engineering.

Timothy Thein

analyst
#46

Yes, yes. And as you're doing more of these kind of systems with your customers, is that -- is that -- not that it goes back to 13%, but what is kind of the right number for...

Todd Leombruno

executive
#47

Yes, that's a great question. So really, what that was there was an enormous design cycle that we participated it in. And we won a lot of business that is going to secure the future growth of aerospace for years, we had to go design it, right? So the design costs really didn't spike to one time. You're right, Tim, they were 13% of sales. They're very small now, I think 3% is the number that we're kind of looking at now, and it seems like that will be consistent going forward. Meggitt will maybe add a little bit to that within the aerospace business, but we don't think it will be significant, right? Most of those programs are developed. Now it's really getting into supplying that product as the OEM products build and, of course, getting to the aftermarket. So that really -- that's where the majority of the opportunity comes.

Timothy Thein

analyst
#48

Got it. Got it. Sticking with Meggitt, certainly well timed from [indiscernible] [ double ] down in euro.

Todd Leombruno

executive
#49

We were hoping that it would work out that way. And so far, it has played out that way. So we're starting to see that come in, and it's early days, but I would tell you, it's very positive. We've had the opportunity to meet a lot of the Meggitt team members. They are excited. They have seen the progress of Parker Aerospace over the last 5, 6, 7, 10 years and they're interested, and they're really curious on how we did what we did, and we're -- we've already begun sharing with them how we've done that. So we think that this is really going to be a 1 plus 1 equals 3 type relationship and couldn't be happier. We actually have a location not too far from here. We and the team are going to stop by after we finish and stop it and say Hello to those team members.

Timothy Thein

analyst
#50

Right. Any questions from the audience here? We've got one here.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#51

[indiscernible] EBITDA guide. I think you had 25%. Can you just tell us where that's coming from? Because I think you said earlier that you weren't -- you were adding synergies into that.

Todd Leombruno

executive
#52

Which was that again?

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#53

Your EBITDA guide?

Timothy Thein

analyst
#54

EBITDA guidance for Meggitt.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#55

For 2027 guidance.

Todd Leombruno

executive
#56

Our EBITDA -- this is our FY '27 targets. We have given a 25% adjusted EBITDA target and adjusted segment operating margin target of 25%. That does include Meggitt, right? So when we gave those targets, we hadn't closed Meggitt, but we had done enough of the work, and we felt pretty confident that we were going to get to a close. So all of those targets, the growth targets, the cash flow targets, the operating margin targets and the EBITDA targets and the EPS growth targets for that matter, all include Meggitt. They do not include any other acquisitions -- we hope that once we get leverage down to a manageable level that there will be a logical 1, 2, 3, 4 acquisitions depending on what's in the pipeline available. But we didn't count on any of those additional opportunities to be part of our margin targets. And again, that is an equal amount of improving the business pre Meggitt and also improving the Meggitt business. So there still is lots of opportunity with core Parker, if you will, outside of what Meggitt will bring to the company.

Timothy Thein

analyst
#57

To that point, you've talked about a 20% market share target for years. I mean it's amazing you're -- there hasn't been -- has changed a whole lot 12%. Even despite all these deals you've done.

Todd Leombruno

executive
#58

Well -- it's a large market space. We've continued you with some of the acquisitions, we have continued to expand the addressable market. And so when you look at that, that size of that market has grown. But you're right, there still is opportunity for us to hit that 20% market share. And we think we can do that via acquisition, but we also think we can do that organically.

Timothy Thein

analyst
#59

Yes. Going back to the Meggitt integration, the cost structure you highlight, was it similar to what you encountered with LORD, where I think it was pretty heavy from kind of a sales, SG&A perspective, but you guys were -- I mean, able to take that down. In other words, similar playbooks that you can deploy here?

Todd Leombruno

executive
#60

There absolutely is. Obviously, you just get -- first of all, you get the benefits of not having 2 public company costs, right there's an economy of scale of that. When you look at Meggitt, it basically does double the size of our aerospace business. All of those -- really, 80% of those Meggitt businesses will report into our Aerospace group. The others will go into our industrial businesses. So we'll be able to take out a layer of management that would be redundant because we'll have 1 team. So we're working through that. We feel really good about the opportunities on achieving that. And what we're trying to do is we're trying to build the best aerospace supply company that we can. So that is a combination of Meggitt team members. It's also a combination of Parker team members. We're moving fast. We're moving as fast as we can on that. And I would tell you we're on track. The synergy number that we've given for the current fiscal year that we're in is $60 million of cost synergies and we're on track to achieve that in this fiscal year. So that would be over 3 quarters, so it's not even a full fiscal year. And we'll update those as we get into our next fiscal year guide kind of show the ramp to that $300 million. So it's not just SG&A cost, right? There is a number of supply chain opportunities. There's a number of footprint opportunities and really just applying the tools that we've learned through our Lean system over the last 20 years to the Meggitt business system as well. So there's a number of things there that aren't just people count related.

Timothy Thein

analyst
#61

And they were the result of a number of acquisitions, right?

Todd Leombruno

executive
#62

Yes, like most companies of that size, there was a number of acquisitions that kind of built them up. But not unlike what the way we have grown throughout the years.

Timothy Thein

analyst
#63

You alluded to this earlier, but the trend within Aerospace has kind of moved from -- I mean it's not new but moving away from a widget or a component supplier to more of a system supplier. So now you've got braking, you've got more of a complete portfolio, as these OEMs start looking at new planes to be developed? Are you starting to be a bigger part of the discussion?

Todd Leombruno

executive
#64

Yes, we certainly are. I kind of mentioned that a little bit. We've gotten bigger with all of our customers, certainly the top 10 customers. And now what it really does is it allows us to play in different parts of the aircraft that we didn't have capabilities for, right? Wheels and braking, the fire suppression, the sensing, the dynamics of control of the flight crash. So all of those things are now big parts of the Parker offering. And we think it's going to be a positive for us going forward.

Timothy Thein

analyst
#65

This is very dated. But a couple of years ago, there was concern around this one individual OEM talking about basically extracting more margin supply chain. I mean yours and others' margins have kind of marched higher.

Todd Leombruno

executive
#66

Correct, yes. Well, we've done that. We've always thought that the products that we have in our portfolio are mission-critical value packed products. They do require a significant amount of development. You mentioned that 13% R&D spend that we used to have. So there's value in these products, and they're not easily replaceable. So we focused on making sure that we are producing them, converting them in the most cost-effective manner. And we feel that we deserve to have a reasonable profit on those parts. So to your point, if you've seen our aerospace margins, that ramp has been nice to see. You got to kind of discount it with the pandemic a little bit. That was a shock that -- it's once-in-a-lifetime aerospace shut. But we've recovered from that, and we continue to go forward.

Timothy Thein

analyst
#67

Good. So near-term priorities, debt paydown being...

Todd Leombruno

executive
#68

Yes, absolutely. So when you look at capital allocation, I think everybody knows, we are dedicated to our dividend increase record. We've got a 66-year increase of our dividend record, and we're not going to break that. So we're committed to the dividend. CapEx, we talked about a little bit, but our target is 2% of sales. We're at that right now. But that is about 40% higher than what it's been in the last 5 years. We've been about 1.5%. So it's not a huge dollar number for us, but it is a significant increase from where we've been in the past. We're going to continue with that. We have a small amount that we used to dilute share comp that we have across our employee base. And then 100% of the rest of that is -- today dedicated to pay down the Meggitt debt that we took out. We've already paid down over $2 billion of debt on that transaction. Our target is to pay another $2 billion down over the next 12 months and we're really committed to doing that. And you'll see us focus on that until we get that leverage back to a level that we feel comfortable with.

Timothy Thein

analyst
#69

To the earlier point about kind of the prospects -- greater prospects for a CapEx cycle, I think your own budgeting is...

Todd Leombruno

executive
#70

It's indicative of what's going on in the marketplace, and I think you'll see us participate in that and also benefit from that.

Timothy Thein

analyst
#71

Good stuff. We got a minute. Anyone have any final questions?

Todd Leombruno

executive
#72

Yes. Great.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#73

I'm curious now that you've gotten a good look at the Meggitt business and especially their aftermarket. Are you seeing any low-hanging fruit and how they've been pricing in the aftermarket and serving customers?

Todd Leombruno

executive
#74

Yes. Yes, it's a good question. So I was just in Singapore last week, and I was able to spend some time at one of the Meggitt sales and service organizations, very impressive organization. The location that we're going to today is also in the aftermarket space. And this is very much a special element of what made Meggitt special, right? There is an enormous amount of really rebuilding product and servicing product that, in many cases, is making sure that planes stay safe, stops when it's supposed to stop. And there certainly is opportunity in that. I'll speak to Parker, we have taken pricing very close to our heart because these are all engineered products that are helping our end customers achieve their objectives, whether that's cost efficiency, whether that is productivity. All of our products fulfill those needs. So we've moved to a value-based pricing, really not a cost-based pricing. And we think there's probably some opportunity with the Meggitt business as well.

Timothy Thein

analyst
#75

Good stuff, Todd. Thank you very much.

Todd Leombruno

executive
#76

Yes. Thanks, everyone. It's a pleasure to see everybody.

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