Patterson-UTI Energy, Inc. (PTEN) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

January 5, 2023

NASDAQ US Energy Energy Equipment and Services conference_presentation 40 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#1

All right. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for this oil services panel on the outlook of activity and pricing in U.S. land services. We've got John Lindsay, CEO of Helmerich & Payne; Chris Wright, CEO at Liberty; Robert Drummond, CEO at NexTier Oilfield Services; and Andy Hendricks, CEO at Patterson-UTI. Thank you for taking the time to talk to us.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#2

John, I'd like to start with you. H&P is up 80% in 2022 over the last 12 months. But really, everyone, NexTier is up 118%; Liberty is up 40%; Patterson, 72%. 2022 has been a rate of change story. But how do you think about 2023? First of all, how is 4Q looking? And Andy, I know you had a press release, so would allow for you to talk about it. What should investors expect from 2023? And what are you most focused on? John, maybe you start.

John Lindsay

attendee
#3

Well, again, thank you for having us. Yes, 2022 was a great year, particularly when you contrast with what we've been through the last couple of years. But 2023 looks really positive. Our fiscal year end is September 30, so we just finished our first quarter. And things look really well. In terms of our focus, we're going to continue to spend a lot of time focusing on our customers or in the customer service business, focusing on customers, delivering better outcomes, utilizing the best technologies possible. We're going to focus there. Obviously, spend a lot of time focusing on growing margins. We talked back in February that since 2014, we hadn't seen 50% gross margins since that time period. And so our focus is getting back to that 50% gross margin. We're really looking at other ways to return capital to shareholders. We announced our supplemental dividend back in October. So that's another focus for us is figuring out how to get more back to shareholders. And then finally, just international growth. We see that as a great opportunity. We think going to continue to be more unconventional drilling internationally, and we think we're going to be in a position to take advantage of that.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#4

Andy?

William Hendricks

executive
#5

Listen, I'm really excited about the macro for 2023. And when you look back at what's happened since we've come out of this downturn over 2020, activity has ramped up, pricing has ramped up even at a much faster pace than activity has. But this cycle is different. And I know everybody talks about it, but it really is different than the cycles we've seen over the last decade. Our customers are growing activity, but not at the same pace they did in the past. So they're not likely to overproduce the global needs for oil and gas that they have in the past. And so this cycle has the potential to have much longer legs than any previous cycle we've had. And that difference is allowing us to continue to increase our average pricing throughout '23, and that's why I'm really upbeat about this year. Even if we don't put out another rig, which we are, or even if leading-edge day rates for services don't go up, which I think they still do, our average rates are still going to continue to move up quarter-on-quarter as we reprice contracts and agreements that we signed in '22. And so I'm still upbeat for '23 and the overall macro. I still think it's an exciting time, whether you're a drilling contractor or you're in services, this is still a really good year.

Robert Drummond

attendee
#6

And for NexTier, we really are coming off a really exciting 2022, but we do also believe in really strong macro. We've been focusing a lot on return on invested capital, and it's showing up in our numbers as we exit Q3. And we are in a position to expect profitability to improve substantially in 2023 without very much investment in growth CapEx. We did a bit of countercyclical investing to move our fleet more and more towards natural gas as a power source for many reasons, including the fuel arbitrage between diesel fuel and natural gas, and we're going to continue along that path as we go through 2023. But at any points out, the discipline that's been established by our customer base is rolling into the plans, I think, of our host sector. And our host sector is really -- I'm talking about frac mostly, is really improving in ROIC in general. And I think our messaging to the investors need to be a little bit more focused on that, maybe in less on EBITDA growth that we've kind of measured ourselves with in the past, kind of symbolic to the E&P is being measured for production growth. But we're in a great position going into 2023 and very excited about the opportunities.

William Hendricks

executive
#7

Yes. I think may be familiar, but we're in a great setting for the macro right now. Business conditions are very strong in our industry. We've got relatively tight global oil supply and demand markets. Maybe some issues with the ability to move natural gas, but they'll be solved in the next year or 2. So business conditions outlook is very multiyear technology investments that are coming to fruition right now, maybe most publicly with our digiFrac solution, which I think is going to be game-changing. We've got some great new software coming out of logistics, handling wet sand, some innovative ideas that are being strongly embraced by customers. We've had a tougher tighter market where operational quality, I think, has become huge for customers. There are people that are struggling and there are people that are killing it and delivering well. So yes, pretty happy where I am right now and happy New Year to the crowd.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#8

Great. John, you mentioned about 40 to 50 rigs being added throughout 2023, and Andy, you've spoken about 100. So maybe can you talk about the thought processes there? How do you get to those numbers? And in terms of the customer conversations, what are the private saying? What are the major thing? And how do you think about the mix between the players?

John Lindsay

attendee
#9

Yes, that 40 to 50 number now is dated a little bit. But again, we're excited about the opportunity. Things are looking good. I think -- and when I'm looking at it now, it seems like that would be on the higher end of the spectrum, which again, I think is really a good thing. I think that would really be a good thing is for the industry to focus less on adding additional units and more on focusing -- in our case, growing margins. As the data points, when you're trying to figure out what the supply-demand curve is, a lot of what we try to look at is demand points coming from customers that are at least a year rather than looking at it on a shorter-term basis. And so we've been able to satisfy most of our customer demand churn from our own rigs are being released for various reasons. And so that's worked out really well for us. So it's really hard to predict what the number is, but I think the total adds for 2023 are going to be on the lower end of the spectrum, which again, I think is healthy. It's been mentioned, it's having capital discipline, much like our customers are just like the E&Ps are.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#10

What about the conversations with the private -- between the privates and the major...

John Lindsay

attendee
#11

There's no doubt that the privates carried a lot of the increases in 2021 and through '22. We've had most -- a lot of rigs have been going to work for the larger public players, including majors. I think it's going to continue to be that way. We have seen a little bit of softness on the privates. But typically, what happens is a private releases a rig, and it gets picked up by another private company. There's a lot of interest in rigs. A customer would much rather have a rig that's been active than pulling a rig out of stack.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#12

Got it. Andy?

William Hendricks

executive
#13

So we were serving customers back in September. And of course, WTI was above $80 a barrel back then and the number we came up with for 2023 was an industry rig count of an increase of around 50 rigs. Now with oil trading plus or minus $75, I think that moderates a bit same as what John is explaining. I think that does come down, but I don't think that affects any of us either. I'll talk about what's happening within the rig count, but there's different classes of rigs in the overall rig count. You've got mechanicals and SCRs, which make up over 100 of those rigs in the rig count, and then you've got AC and super-spec rigs. Certainly, over the last few months, a lot of discussion about privates dropping rigs, and rig count with privates, but they were mechanical rigs. They don't affect -- and the market for the AC, super-spec rigs still remains tight, and that's still a very tight, disciplined market and it will be throughout '23.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#14

And you mentioned leading-edge day rates and the trajectory of the overall margins for your business. How do you think about the cost trajectory? The -- as you think about contracts rolling over, where do you think you will land for 2023 on average? Where do you exit? And is there an incentivization for longer-term duration contracts now in the market? Or are you still looking for shorter-term durations where you can benefit from the churn later on?

William Hendricks

executive
#15

So what we said at the last earnings call, and I believe it still holds true today, is that leading-edge day rates with everything all-in, for super-spec rig, with your drill pipe, with extra people, any kind of rental equipment that we provide is running around $40,000 per day. Now interestingly enough, our costs have gone up, too. So our margins are still not back to peak margins either. So there's -- we still think there's upside on the margins because of that. But today, even though that's leading-edge, that's not our average. We're working rigs today that we sign contracts on a year ago that were around that $20,000 a day range. But that's what's going to happen and reprice in '23. As these contracts roll in '23, all of a sudden, it's a step up for some of these rigs at that $20,000 level all the way up to leading-edge. And so that's what you're going to see in our financials through '23. And that's what we're excited and upbeat about. It's the fact that we're going to have a longer duration up cycle that gives us more time to mark to market and raise our pricing up towards leading-edge.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#16

John?

John Lindsay

attendee
#17

Yes. I agree with that. And on the term contract, we had 60 rigs over the last couple of quarters that rolled off or were rolling off. And after those rolled off in our fiscal Q1, and we'll have another half roll off. Some of those are going back into term. Some are going to go into the spot, but they're all going up dramatically more towards leading-edge pricing. And so we would expect that. I think in general, it's been -- over time, we've had about 50% to 60% of our fleet that's under term contract. I think that's good management on those term contracts. So I think there's a lot of upside ahead. Again, I think just the capital discipline that everyone is showing is really important to this longer cycle that we're discussing.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#18

I'll turn it to you, Chris and Robert. On -- in terms of the profitability per fleet and what the trajectory looks like for 2023, how are you thinking about it? How should investors underwrite maybe the entry and the exit rate for '23? And then on the back of that, do you see any appetite for net additions in the market? I know you've mentioned your own company's plans, but as you look at your competitors in the market, the private players, is there any appetite that you have a net addition at the end of '23?

Christopher Wright

attendee
#19

Thank you for the question. And just a quick reflect back on the rig count projections. I would say not surprised that it's coming down just a bit simply because of the fact that we believe that the bottleneck for U.S. land growth and production is the frac fleet is fully sold out. And the supply chain for us to be able to expand that [indiscernible] we're building on it and '23 is very good, which sets up -- we see 2023 profitability to significantly improve over 2022. And one of the big factors there is contract terms as it relates to pricing as well as other terms associated with how do you manage downtime, how do you manage minimum hours for a frac fleet, things that are very important to keeping that factory working day in and day out. To your question is about where we see that going. We're more and more focused on pricing and measuring the returns on a per pump basis or per horsepower basis. So the number of fleets might vary quarter-to-quarter depending on how you configure them and what geographical region that you place them in. But when you look at it on an average, we would expect to see that number in the low-30s in 2023. There are some companies already demonstrating that in the most recent quarters in our sector. And I think that more and more looking at EBITDA per fleet as a measure may not be the best way to do it simply because there's so much variation in size of fleet geographically and in what is included in each of our company's strategies. So more and more, I think the messaging from us is going to be around focusing on return on capital and driving that through how we manage our cash and our investments and our profitability. As it relates to M&A and the need for more of it, I mean, there's been a significant amount that have occurred from all of us and the public side of that sector -- this sector pretty well. And I think we all benefit from each one of those moves. There's a transition occurring in the fleet today, moving away from diesel towards natural gas and much cleaner fuel, but also benefits from the arbitrage between diesel prices and natural gas prices that are even getting better in '23 versus '22. So there's a significant return on investment for making those investments without adding additional capacity to the overall fleet. So I think when you look at us for managing our market share in a range of flat between 12% and 14%, we would have an eye to looking for M&A opportunities. But we don't really see a lot of those that move the strategy of moving from diesel to natural gas very quickly. But we do see numerous opportunities for M&A around our fleet that is part of our well site integration strategy, things that help us control our own destiny like last mile logistics or other fueling options that build around our Power Solutions business. But the opportunities for 2023, in general, I believe the macro is set up just as good as it was in 2022 versus 2021.

Robert Drummond

attendee
#20

Yes, I think that, as you said, the market conditions are strong. Really only one thing we look at or care about, and that is our return on capital invested, cash return on cash invested. I've been a private company guy most of my career, now a public company. We're 11 years old. We've had 23% cash return on cash invested from the day we founded the company to today. So that's what we look at. And that's about 50% higher than the S&P 500 and of course, far higher than our industry. And that's not been fat years for the industry, right? Those have been 10 tougher years. Now we're going into better macro conditions, we would expect returns to elevate. And so that's how we look at it. If we're going to an acquisition or an investment in technology or deployment, it's all about that return on capital employed. But we are in a position right now. We have an internal frac fleet count. We know every active frac fleet in the country, and we talk to everyone who's running an active frac fleet to hear their plans. And so people's plans sort of factor in another 15 or 20 fleets from where we are now to sort of mid- to the -- maybe the second, third of this year. That's tough. That's tough as far as where those fleets will come from. But that little incremental pull is what keeps the macro conditions strong. We grew capacity a bit last year. For us, it's all -- we look at it on a micro level, it's customer relationships, a particular opportunity, how do we evaluate that, what we're going to do. So we look at sort of -- obviously, we're generating meaningful free cash flow right now. And if things roll as they are, obviously, that will be a lot larger. And then it's what to do with that. We reinitiated our share buyback program in Q3. We bought 2.5% of our total shares outstanding in our first quarter of the buyback program. We bought our dividend back but pretty compelling opportunity in buying our own stock at sort of nutty valuations right now. So that's a negative at 1 level, but it's an opportunity at another.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#21

I'll come back to that in just a minute. But Andy, did you want to jump into the pressure pumping comment?

William Hendricks

executive
#22

Sure. So we operate 12 frac spreads, 7 of those are primarily natural gas fuels or dual fuel systems. Our team is doing a great job. Really proud of the progress that they've made over the last few years and the returns that we're getting out of that business. One thing that's changed for us over the last 4 months is that we're seeing an increase in demand of horsepower per spread. We've got customers that want to pump higher rates and higher pressures. And so while we had been talking about potentially putting out and hadn't made a final decision. That decision could be delayed just because of the fact that we've been consuming horsepower on the existing jobs that we're at. And I think that's part of what you're seeing in this overall tightness in the market. There may be some new equipment coming out there. But across the industry, it may not just be specific to us. It may be others as well that are increasing the horsepower per spread, and that's what's keeping this market tight on top of everything else.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#23

Chris, I'll come to you. You were talking about the capital return strategy. And Chris and Robert, but you have slightly different approaches to the whole thing. Can you talk about the philosophies behind that. Why do you prefer one strategy for your company whereas investors might be asking for a more defined program? How do you think about that narrative?

Christopher Wright

attendee
#24

Just the opportunities are more variable. Yes, we've never been a fan of the total formulaic, X percent will go here or go there. Key for us, the long-term goal maximize the value of the share, right? And you do that by having high returns on cash invested and then some combination of reinvesting to grow your competitive addition grow your ability to increase profitability per share, and then direct returns to shareholders through dividends and repurchases. And repurchases for us is very much a factor of what's the gap between some conservative estimate of intrinsic value and the value at which you can buy a share. These are not precise numbers by any, but that gap is enormous. The appeal of buying back shares is tremendous. Now in today's world and from the platform we sit on, we also have tremendous investment opportunities in our own business, not necessarily adding new fleets, but a higher spec fleet that customers really want or other enabling technologies that make our fleet more efficient or grab a larger percent of the spend in the whole frac completion world. So yes, for us, it's how do we maximize the value of a share. And so obviously, returns to shareholders will be a large piece of that, but it's not formulaic for us.

Robert Drummond

attendee
#25

Slightly different maybe for us only in the sense that we feel like we're -- our sector in general, pretty extremely undervalued, considered the earnings potential Chris pointed out, and I pointed out a little bit. And trying to tell the investor base how we're going to behave, we believe putting a little structure around our capital allocation, in general, might help accelerate people coming back to our sector. It seems to have worked in some cases for the E&Ps. And at this point, we did in our last earnings call, coming out with a little guidance about what we would do with the earnings and the free cash flow that we're generating, which has been really substantial. And it does have flexibility built in it, but it is structured as well. We've said that we would get to net debt 0 in 2023. We said that we were going to invest in our fleet to keep the fleet as strong as it was at the end of the year as it began the year while simultaneously slowly transitioning it from diesel to more and more natural gas, as well as kind of managing our market share flat with whatever the market conditions do. And I think the third thing that we allocated to was committing to 50% of our free cash flow to be returned to our shareholders. And the fourth being -- and we can fund all 4 of these buckets, if you will, would be on flexibility around building some cash balance on the balance sheet to help us with M&A opportunities, as I mentioned, most likely around our integrated strategy. And if we don't find anything attractive, it could also be put in the capital return process. So yes, it's a bit structured, but it's driven to try to make our investors see that how we're going to behave in the future and that we're going to take care of this earnings potential situation that we're in today.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#26

Staying on that theme, I think one of the common questions we get from investors is, how do I own this for a return of capital strategy, whereas the stocks have tended to behave on a quarter-to-quarter basis because everyone's been buying the stocks for an estimate revision cycle, that requires a shift in mentality to a certain extent for pressure pumping in particular, how do you think that, that occurs? Do you think that's a duration game? Is there more visibility into pressure pumping profitability or free cash flow over a multiyear period? How do you think that plays out?

Robert Drummond

attendee
#27

Look, our industry beat up because it's cyclical. And so therefore, we don't like it as much. I absolutely disagree with that, call me strange. When an industry is cyclical, any industry where you build an asset that lasts a long time is cyclical, commercial real estate, our industry. And to us, cyclicality brings another lever that makes the business difficult and therefore, a better opportunity to grow competitive advantage, a wider range of outcomes of the competitors in the business. I think it was Warren Buffett who said he would take a lumpy 12% return over a smooth 10% return any day. We agree entirely. We're in this business because of the opportunity for high returns on capital. And again, Buffett taking a 12% lumpy return, we've been at 23% return in a rough 10 or 11 years for our industry. So if you have strong returns on the cash you invest, your optionality to accrete shareholder value through growth, through dividends, through buybacks, they're simply tremendous. So for us, we hope a broader investor base recognizes the superiority of a business with strong returns on capital throughout the cycle. And of course, we've all been harmed by sort of a naive politically driven view that soon, we're not going to be running on oil and gas, nothing in the map, nothing in the numbers supports that. In fact, if you look at oil demand growth, 1.1% compounded annual growth rate in the '90s, 1.1% in the 2000 to 2010, 1.2% in the last decade pre-COVID. So look, our industry is the dominant source of powering the world. It was when I was born, and it will be when I die. Now if there's a lack of appreciation that today among investors, which there is, that will change.

Christopher Wright

attendee
#28

And I'll build on it just a little bit too by saying it really is a bit different this time simply because in the past, when we were considered to be overbuilding in the cycle, and our customers are growing and now they're not, they're being very disciplined. And the fleet in which we were doing to work with was more consistent. It was all burning natural or it was using diesel as a fuel. So there's a big return on investment for us to make a conversion in whatever sort it may be moving from diesel to electric or diesel to dual fuel that uses natural gas, the electric fleets are using natural gas for the generators that power them. That investment is going to be a smoother transition. And I don't think any of the 5 public companies that are in frac that control maybe 70% of the capacity are really going out and trying out market share at the other simply because it would be at the expense of another, and it would be damaging to the macro that we've discussed. So I believe that's transition of making a -- like for us, we've committed ourselves to 8% to 9% of revenue for CapEx. That's constrained to the opportunities that we have that are abundant all around. But if we stay constrained in that manner to give us the ability to guide that we can return cash to our shareholders consistently and that we have flexibility in that CapEx plan that when we're shrinking the fleet during any kind of downturn where you can simply quit spending in those -- in that arena. So I think it's a different game than it was before for a number of reasons. And that cost curve in the fleet itself, being 1 of them, and the fact that the customer base is fixing the growth to be very, very slow.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#29

John, you've always had a very strong dividend program and you have a special dividend announced for this year. How do you think about the thought process behind that? And what is -- is this a trailer for '24, '25 onwards? Or how do you think about the longevity of that kind of special dividend?

John Lindsay

attendee
#30

Well, we have paid a dividend for 60 years. We had an increasing dividend year-over-year for 47 years until recently, until 2020. And so it's important. It's a business, so it's important. Our dollar a share [indiscernible] that's kind of sacred that we're going to keep that. So the idea behind the supplemental, and again, I would say it's actually different the way we normally think about a special dividend in that it's not onetime. This supplemental dividend is designed to supplement the base dividend. And for 2023, it's 50% of free cash flow after CapEx, after the base dividend [indiscernible] for upside in that base dividend. So it essentially doubles the base dividend a little over $2 a share. But I think it's important to recognize that the way we see this in this longer cycle is we'll have a new supplemental for 2024. This is our fiscal '23. And so it gives us that opportunity to kind of reset based on the outlook for the industry. But it also enables us to increase that supplemental if we chose to, during the year, if the year turned out better or opportunistic share buybacks. Last year, we -- about $74 million in share buybacks at $24 a share. And so we're going to continue to be opportunistic as it relates to share buybacks. But I think the supplemental gives us some optionality as we go through these cycles. You'll find yourself in a situation where you've increased your base dividend over a longer period of an up cycle and then have to turn around and cut it. You've got the supplemental, which its formula, but it's very simple.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#31

Right. And Andy, you leaned on the repurchases a little bit. Do you want to talk about that?

William Hendricks

executive
#32

Yes, I'll start by saying over the last decade, Patterson-UTI has given back about $1 billion to shareholders through dividends and share buybacks. And nobody seemed to care and nobody seemed to remember. So we decided we better get a little bit formulaic about what our plans are because in the past, we just say, look, it's going to be a combination of dividends and buybacks. What we've come out and said is that we intend to return about 50% is our target, return 50% of our free cash flow back to shareholders in the form of dividends and buybacks. And so we put out a press release yesterday, and you saw that we were buying back shares in the fourth quarter and our dividend continues. And so that's our target. I wouldn't think of it on a quarterly basis because our working cash flow will move and our free cash flow will move on a quarter-to-quarter basis as we do maintenance and activate equipment. But if you think of it on an annualized basis, that's our target. And so we've recently got a new authorization for the buybacks from the Board of $300 million. And so we will be doing buybacks at times during the market when we're not blacked out when it makes sense, and we'll continue to pay the dividend. But our target on an annual basis is going to be returning 50% of that cash flow back. We also bought some debt back in the fourth quarter. We have public debt. It's 2028 and 2029. It's trading at a discount. And so that's another use of our cash outside of the cash that we're giving back to shareholders. So we think it's a good practice to pay some of that debt down where we can, especially for buying it at a discount.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#33

How do you think about your gas basin exposure, especially with exposure to Henry Hub prices, and this is really for everyone. Do you see any risk of activity slowing down in the near term? Maybe start with you, Robert.

Robert Drummond

attendee
#34

I think that's a good question, I think. And of course, I think that the takeaway capacity for gas in U.S. land is pretty well known that it's going to be very, very tight in 2023 and begin to loosen a little bit better in '24, but probably not fully solved until 2025. We have a pretty long running history in the Marcellus Utica and a real good customer base there. That market has been kind of constrained and steady for a while, and we see that continuing at about the same rate as it's been. But we would think that the Haynesville is going to experience some challenge, I think, for takeaway. And as such, as we've repositioned our fleet leaving 2022 and into 2023, we've moved a little bit more of our fleet capacity towards oil versus natural gas and mostly at the expense of the Haynesville. But in the Marcellus Utica, we see pretty well flat.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#35

Chris?

Christopher Wright

attendee
#36

Yes. We've always been oil-focused since we started the company. In fact, moving into gas was only more recently. We started an oil basin, believing that the macro in oil was so strong because you can easily move to become an oil exporter. When we started, we weren't an oil exporter, but we knew that was -- that's not too hard to do. Gas is harder and slower to build infrastructure. As Robert said, Marcellus Utica is a fantastic basin entirely constrained by infrastructure. Still a lot of activity to keep that production flat, but it's very constrained. Haynesville is the marginal supplier of gas. I think the next 10 years for the Haynesville are simply tremendous as the LNG export infrastructure gets built out. A little tougher fracking environment too, both from a design and high pressure and rate thing plays into our strengths. But could it plateau or pull back a little bit in the next year or 2, sure.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#37

Is there a way to quantify the margin uplift that you might get from lower gas prices versus diesel prices for pressure pumping when you think about electric fleets in particular? Or is that incremental dollar entirely accrued to the customer?

Robert Drummond

attendee
#38

Look I think the way to look at that is that as the arbitrage spread grows, the value creation moves with it, and it gives the frac company the ability to create more value and capture more of that value. But it is a scenario where that value accretes to both us and the E&P operator. So yes, I think it is very supportive to the general pricing and contractual terms of fracking for the portion of the fleet that can utilize natural gas. And I would point out that, that's less than half of the fleet in the U.S. And that transition that now most every company is on a path towards moving in that direction, it's going to take a long time. And the cost curve for making those investments have gone up with the supply chain challenges that exists in inflationary measures. So this is a long time transition, not a couple of years before you get to the whole fleet being driven by that.

Christopher Wright

attendee
#39

Tremendous economic opportunity though, tremendous. The fuel cost differential between diesel and natural gas, another infrastructure problem. We don't have enough refining capacity for diesel. So the diesel prices are dislocated and natural gas prices, particularly locally in some basins are very low, huge opportunity for value for our customers, for Liberty, and you'll see more stuff from us on how to best take advantage of that.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#40

Got it. John, do you want to touch on the gas exposure and the activity expectations?

John Lindsay

attendee
#41

Yes. We -- at this stage, we haven't seen any softness. In fact, we've had a few rigs getting -- being put back to work in the Haynesville. From a driller perspective, even if there is softness in the gas in a gas basin, it's really easy to mobilize a rig out of a gas basin to an oil basin. And so it's a pretty low-cost opportunity. And if there were a softening market, then what would happen, I think, with a lot of those gas rigs as they would go into oil basins and they would replace lower-performing rigs. And there would be a great opportunity there. But overall, I haven't heard from any customers and haven't seen any concerns.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#42

Got it. Andy, would you like to add?

William Hendricks

executive
#43

Yes. We have a strong presence in the Northeast in drilling rigs and pressure pumping, that's -- as we've all discussed, that's a steady market up there, and that will continue as it is. The gas market up there is relatively trapped for that geographical region. We have about 10% of our rigs that work in East Texas, Louisiana and the Haynesville. And I actually think that the Haynesville has gone through some of its worst times already in the fall. There was a number of operators that had to shut-in production because storage was filling up and weather was warmer than it had been forecast, and you have the LNG plant at Freeport shutdown. And so you actually had differential in the sales on production for some of our customers, they were upside down and they actually shut-in wells. And they started to reopen wells in December again. And so I actually think November was probably one of the worst case scenarios for the Haynesville. And I don't think that in 2023, unless we see something else, but I think it will actually get either improve or stay relatively steady. And Freeport has already announced that they're going to open up that LNG train towards the end of January as well. And so that's going to allow some takeaway out of that market.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#44

We've only got a couple of minutes. So let's quickly touch on the U.S. spending expectations for '23. John, maybe if you can touch on 3 buckets: activity increase, inflation, cost pass-through net pricing.

John Lindsay

attendee
#45

Yes. About 25% of our CapEx budget will be directed towards recommission and conversion. Most of the inflation that we see is going to be related to rigs that we've cannibalized equipment over the period of time. And it's more expensive to overhaul a top drive today, why overhaul a top drive 2 years ago when you have 1 sitting there that's ready to go to work. So it's just -- it's going to be on that. Let's face it. In our business, 70%, 75% of our costs are tied up with labor and contractually our labor, if we have an increase in labor, which we did at the end of the fiscal year, that's a direct cost pass-through. So we're not -- we don't have challenges with that.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#46

Got it. Andy?

William Hendricks

executive
#47

We said that our CapEx for 2023 is likely to come in around plus or minus $500 million. Majority of that is going to be maintenance across all of our business lines. There's going to be some reactivation of drilling rigs. And so that may fluctuate depending on how the market plays out in total through 2023. But as we do reactivate drilling rigs, we protect it under a term contract. We've got about a $4 million cost just for the reactivation and there's some upgrades on top of that, that could put that number in the $9 million to $11 million range if you have the upgrades, but we'll protect that with a term contract if we do that.

Robert Drummond

attendee
#48

I know we're a bit tight on time. I would just say that we've seen inflation maybe moderating a little bit over 22%, which is a big number in '22, but I would say the macro setup for us is still be in a position to gain net pricing double-digit percent over -- year-over-year over any inflation aspects that are in the market.

Christopher Wright

attendee
#49

Yes. Inflation is a wildcard, definitely moderating but still a real factor right now. But we've been able to deal with that, and we're in constant dialogue with our customers about how best to handle those impacts.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#50

Great. With that, we're out of time. So thank you, everyone, for joining. And hopefully, everyone has a great conference.

John Lindsay

attendee
#51

All right. Thank you.

William Hendricks

executive
#52

Thank you.

Christopher Wright

attendee
#53

Thanks a lot.

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