Pharvaris N.V. (PHVS) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

September 8, 2026

NASDAQ US Health Care Pharmaceuticals special 61 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Good day, everyone, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Chapter-3 Topline Data webcast. [Operator Instructions]. I would now like to turn the conference over to your speaker host Maggie, please go ahead.

Maggie Beller

executive
#2

Thank you, and welcome to the top line data announcement of Chapter-3, a Phase III clinical study of Deucrictibant extended-release tablet for the prophylactic treatment of hereditary angioedema tax. My name is Maggie Beller, Head of Corporate and Investor Communications at Pharvaris. Please note that today's webcast is being recorded. and the slides will be uploaded onto the Investors section of our corporate website immediately following the call. Please note that statements of our guests today are their own and not those of Pharvaris, and Pharvaris makes no representation as to the adequacy, fairness, accuracy or completeness of the information in their comments. In addition, our presentation today will include forward-looking statements, including, but not limited to, statements regarding Deucrictibant and its potential as well as our preclinical and clinical studies regulatory interactions and future plans. Such forward-looking statements are subject to certain risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected. For additional insight regarding the various factors that could cause such differences, please see the section entitled Risk Factors in our annual report on Form 20-F and our other filings available on the SEC's website. In addition, any forward-looking statements represent the company's expectations only as of today. While we may elect to update these forward-looking statements, we specifically disclaim any obligation to do so unless required by law. We are joined today by Dr. Marc Riedl, Professor of Medicine at the University of California, San Diego, Principal Investigator in the Chapter-3 study and a globally recognized expert treating physicians, who will share his perspective on the Chapter-3 data and on their relevance for clinical practice. Thank you, Dr. Riedl for joining us. During our call, Pharvaris Chief Executive Officer, Berndt Modig will speak to Pharvaris' continued commitment to provide medicines that can further advance the management of bradykinin-mediated angioedema. Pharvaris' President, Dr. Peng Lu, will go through the top line efficacy and safety findings from the Chapter-3 study. Additionally, Pharvaris' Chief Commercial Officer, [ Lynne Subrin ] is available for the Q&A portion of the call. I'd now like to hand the call over to Berndt Modig. Berndt?

Berndt A. Modig

executive
#3

Thank you, Maggie, and good morning, good afternoon, everybody. Pharvaris prides itself on being a trusted partner to all stakeholders in the FA community. I'm proud to once again speak to you as we execute another key milestone for our company. Starting with the on-demand program. Positive Phase II data were followed by positive Phase III results in December 2025. Most recently, the FDA accepted our NDA submission, bringing us one step closer to making the correct even available for on-demand treatment of HAE attacks. The next catalyst for the on-demand program is the potential approval in April '27 of the [indiscernible], which may represent a new standard of care for on-demand HAE attack treatment. Now turning to long-term prophylaxis. We have similarly built a strong foundation. Positive Phase II data were announced in December 2023. Today, we build on those with positive Phase III results, which support Deucrictibant XR as a potential long-term prophylactic therapy. Looking forward, we continue to generate additional evidence for the Curitiba in acquired angioedema through the CREATE Phase III study, which results from the prophylactic part of the study anticipated in the first quarter of 2027. We expect to submit our U.S. NDA in prophylaxis during the first half of 2027. So now when you step back and take a look at the entire time line, what's exciting is that we have already crossed several major value inflection points and the upcoming milestones have the potential to transform Pharvaris into a commercial leader in bradykinin-mediated angiodema. I'd now like to hand over the call to Pharvaris President, Dr. Peng Lu, to present the Chapter 3 data. Peng?

Peng Lu

executive
#4

Thanks, Berndt. Before reading the data, I would like to take this opportunity to sincerely thank the HAE community, especially study participants, their families, investigators and science stuff, our study partners and all over for their invitable contribution to clinical research, especially the Chapter 3 study. Chapter 3 was a randomized double-blind placebo-controlled Phase III study of all administered equipment, extended-release tablets milligram once daily for the prophylaxis of hereditary and edema attacks. Eligible participants were aged 12 and older with HAE, Type 1, Type 2 or HAE, with normal C1 inhibitor. Participants were randomized in the Q1 ratio which was stratified by age and baseline attack rates. In total, 85 participants were enrolled with 55 into the [indiscernible] and the certain with placebo. Baseline demographics and HAE DB's characteristics were generally balanced between 2 groups and consistent with the overall HE population. The main age was about 39 years old and the 4 adolescent were enrolled in each group. Most of the participants had HAE type 1 or 2. A total of 5 participants with HAE normal C1 inhibitor were enrolled. The baseline attend rate was comparable between 2 groups. with a min reach approximately 3 to 4 attacks per month. After years of dedicated effort, we are proud to announce the Chapter 3 study successfully met its primary endpoint, demonstrating a highly statistical significance and clinical mile reduction in HAE attack rate. Participants treated with Deucrictibant XR experienced substantially fewer HAE attacks during the entire 24 treatment period with an estimate attack rate of 0.35 attacks per month with Deucrictibant versus 2.06 attacks per month with placebo. These reccurence but 83% reduction in a tetra versus placebo, which was highly statistically significant. Of note, Chapter 3 is the first and the only pivotal Phase III study to enroll patients across the full spectrum of HAE, including participants with HAE with normal C1 inhibitor. In contrast, all other pivotal studies have exclusively enrolled patients with HAE type 12. Among the 8 participants with HTE Type 1 in Chapter 3. Deucrictibant XR achieved 87% reduction in monthly attack rate was placebo. Taking together, these funding demonstrates Durban provides injectable like efficacy with the convenience of owner therapy. This slide highlights one of the most important attributes of Deucrictibant XR as a prophylactic therapy. Its early onset of protection combined with durable effect over time. Consistent with its pharmacokinetic profile, Deucrictibant XR reaches therapeutic exposure within the first day of dosing has achieved steady state within 2 to 3 days. Correspondently, Chapter 3 shows that the protection of equitable with maximize within the first week of the treatment and the maintain throughout the study duration. Moving on to some of the key secretary endpoints. Deucrictibant XR demonstrate robust and highly consistent treatment benefit in reducing moderate to severe attacks and attacks treated with on-demand medication. In the responder analysis, all base I participants receiving equities achieved at least a 50% tax reduction from the Phase 1. With the most stringent thresholds, almost all and 2/3 of participants achieved at least 70% and 90% reduction, respectively. Nearly half of the participants treated with equity remained attack-free throughout the entire 24-week treatment period. These results demonstrate meaningful attack control and reinforce the robust efficacy of Deucrictibant XR across multiple clinical relevant measures. Beyond the reducing attacks, we also observed meaningful improvements in how participants fold and functions in their daily life. As shown in this slide, participants receiving durian experienced substantial improvements across all domains of angiodema's quality of light cuisine, including functioning, fatigue on far machine and also nutrition. Across every domain, reductions in AECO scores from baseline to week 24, we're consistently greater with Durian compared to placebo. These results demonstrate the benefits of Deucrictibant XR extends beyond attack prevention alone, translating into broad impact of the treatment from the meaningful improvements on patients' day-to-day quality of life, from the increment with well tolerated with the most events being motor moderate in severity. The most common adverse events across both groups will offer respiratory tract infection, nasal fungitis and headache. The one treatment-emergent serious adverse events also reported in this table as a Grade 4 event with [indiscernible] in a patient with a prior history of repeated laryngeal incubation, which was considered not related to study drug by the investigator. The 3 participants with Grade 3 adverse events included to inflection as the 2 people with Level 2 liver enzyme innovation. One of them discontinued study drugs, the other remain on treatment and complete the study. The discontinuation in the placebo arm was due to urticaria. There was no evidence of increased risk of gastrointestinal side effects. [indiscernible] treated emergent adverse events were evenly balanced between equation and the placebo group, all of the amounts are moderate. As we have shown today, Deucrictibant XR demonstrated meaningful and sustained attack prevention starting from week 1 Chapter 3 study met its efficacy and the patient report outcome endpoints with 83% reduction plus placebo in the overall HD population and 87% reduction for the Type 12 HDE participants. Deucrictibant XR was very well tolerated. Now I would like to introduce Dr. Marc Riedl, a world-leading HD expert to speak about the existing treatment landscape in the long-term prophylaxis of HAE. The [indiscernible] in prevention of HAE attacks take opinion on the clinical profile of Deucrictibant XR and the potential of the equities as an oral medicine. Marc, please.

Marc Riedl

attendee
#5

Thanks very much, Peng, and good morning to everyone. I appreciate the invitation to join the call and give me the opportunity to just make a few brief comments, I think, is the data you've seen may relate to clinical practice. So for a very brief background, I've been working in the HAE space as a specialist for about 25 years now, managing a large group of patients over that time and also conducting research and clinical and translational research and the condition. And so I would just mention as people on the call likely know, we've really seen tremendous progress over those years with advances and therapeutics for HAE and understanding the condition. And that's occurred both for on-demand treatment or trading attacks, but very importantly, for the prevention of attacks. And I would say in clinical practice, there's been an increasing emphasis on preventing HAE attacks. Because we do think that's the way to reach the goal of really normalizing people's lives and looking carefully at quality of life, as you just saw was incorporated into this trial. So as people know, patients do have increased treatment options. We have achieved a lot over the years. But we've not entirely reached that goal of sort of normalizing life for all patients. And I think that's why we continue to see the work that we're seeing, the clinical trials. That's why patients continue to enroll in these studies, and they continue to be completed because we do have unmet needs yet. We do have room for improvement in terms of managing this condition, which, as you know, is a lifelong at this point, lifelong chronic condition. So just a few comments on what we still need in HAE and how the data you've seen on Deucrictibant might help us achieve or meet those needs. I would first say that the burden of treatment is a real thing for patients having to take their medicine, the roots, the dosing, the schedule, this is a real issue, and it's something we spend a lot of time talking to patients about the burden of treatment does affect quality of life. And so in my experience, many patients are very interested in the oral route, the oral medications as a more tenable, a more acceptable and tolerable way to take their chronic treatments due to portability and all the things that we know can be advantages of oral treatment. The oral medications for prophylaxis in HAE have had some limitations to this point. That includes reduced efficacy compared to the parenteral medications or limitations due to certain side effects. And so I think the data that you've just seen is really encouraging. We're seeing the benefits of oral treatments now with efficacy that looks quite similar to the subcutaneous administered medications. And I think this will be very appealing to clinicians and to our patients as an oral medicine that can really achieve a strong efficacy in preventing attacks and it appears to be very tolerable in terms of side effect profile. The second thing I would say is that we really do work to individualize care to optimize outcomes. And by that, I mean we do see variable efficacy and tolerability for any and all of the medications that are out there. So having treatment options are very important. I think this will be -- if it comes to the clinic, will be a very important treatment option. And I'd point out that this is a unique mechanism of action for preventative treatment, the B2 receptor antagonism. That unique mechanism of action makes as a novel treatment option where we might, in fact, see this improving outcomes for patients who to date have not seen the efficacy or the tolerability that we really aim for. And the last thing I would comment on is this group of HAE with normal C1 inhibitor. As you heard, this is a study that enrolled a small group of those patients, and this is a condition that's been very challenging to treat in part because we understand it has a bit of a variable pathophysiology, but we strongly believe that most, if not all of these patients have a bradykinin-mediated angioedema. So, this is, again, a mechanism blocking that [indiscernible] receptor that may give us real advantages in preventing attacks for this group of patients, the HAE normal C1 inhibitor patients and really allow us to better manage these patients regardless of the reason the pathway that there is brain in this regulation. So I think in totality, the study data that you've seen today really are encouraging that if approved for use in clinical practice, the price band will be a very important and a very useful addition to the tools and options that we have to manage HAE. And so with that, I'll turn it back over to the Pharvaris team for the next part of the program. Thank you.

Berndt A. Modig

executive
#6

Yes. Thank you, Dr. Riedl and Peng, for your insights on the Chapter 3 data presented today. I would like to reiterate my appreciation of the people around the world who have collaborated to generate these data. And let me take a step back to share our long-term vision. Our inspired path to predicate mediated and edema leadership has 3 steps: First, win on-demand treatment by combining effective attack control, a well-tolerated profile oral convenience and reduce the treatment burden; and second, expanding to long-term prophylaxis with the ambition of offering injectable like efficacy and a well-tolerated profile with the convenient oral administration, and as we just heard; third, leverage the B2 receptor platform beyond HAE, expanding into other bradykinin-mediated diseases and building a differentiated franchise. The opportunity is different much bigger than a single product or indication building on one foundational mechanism, we aspire to redefine disease management across the spectrum of medicine mediated anti-de and beyond. The upcoming year should be incredibly impactful favors our PDUFA for decrement in the on-demand setting is in April. We plan to submit our NDA for Deucrictibant in the prophylactic setting in the first half of next year and we plan to announce top line data from the CREATE Part 1 Phase III study in the first quarter of next year. In closing, Pharvaris is steadfast in our mission to improve the standard of care for people living with Bradykinin-mediated Angiodema.

Operator

operator
#7

[Operator Instructions]. Our first question coming from the line of Maxwell Skor with Morgan Stanley.

Maxwell Skor

analyst
#8

Congratulations to team on the update. So now with two relatively near-term launches, can you talk about just the commercial builds for both on-demand and prophylactic? How do cryptobands in both formulations are uniquely positioned does the dual profile actually change payer conversations or simplify them? And then if I can, just one more follow-up. On read-through, how should we think about the relevant comparator from Chapter 3, either type 1, 2 patients? Or what have we learned from the normal C1 inhibitor patients?

Berndt A. Modig

executive
#9

Thanks, [indiscernible], for that great set of questions. And we also will start off by saying that Pharvaris has the vision of commercializing Deucrictibant. We have already early on invested in getting ready for a potential launch and also handing over to Wim Souverijns, Chief Commercial Officer, who actually joined over 5 years ago, and we are well underway in building a very strong team with great experience in this therapeutic space. So over to you, Wim.

Wim Souverijns

executive
#10

Thank you, Berndt. And thanks, Max, for the question. I hope I can answer all of you be are quite a few in that question. I think, first of all, let me say that we are super excited on the commercial side with these data. As you remember, when Chapter 1 came out, we were blown away by this very high level of attack production as we call it, injectable-like efficacy. And that's not confirming the Phase III. So I think together with P3, we are in a fantastic position with a drug that in both treatment paradigms, on-demand and prophylaxis, so really exceptional data. In terms of our commercial preparation, we are well underway. We know that the target audience in the U.S. is around 2,000 physicians, core physicians. And what we've done is we're building a commercial infrastructure that really is going to match that market. By the end of the year, we anticipate to have about 95% of our people in place. Our aim is to vehicle for an organization that portraying the value of the company, the collaboration people with deep experience in HAE and/or rare disease. And based on the interest we get for job opening at the moment, we see the excitement within the community of employees as well for the active challenge that we have ahead. So we are very well poised to succeed that. In terms of the peer question, as the benefit having [indiscernible] that absolutely comes true. And it's actually not the benefit just for the payer. It's actually fundamentally doctors and also patient and categories will tell you having on active drug, 1 molecule in 2 formulations that really cover all your needs in HAE is a super advantage. And we're going to be leveraging that. We're going to be working on that to make that a real benefit also in the market. But from a payer perspective, specifically, yes, that is something that can become an advantage over time. We will obviously launch first with on demand. But once we have the prophylactic option approved that would be adding to that [indiscernible]. Did I cover all your questions, Max?

Maxwell Skor

analyst
#11

Yes, I believe so. And then just finally, just on the CREATE read-through as we're thinking about that trial coming up, anything we've learned from Chapter 3? Thank you very much for the commercial side.

Peng Lu

executive
#12

Yes, great question, Max. As I mentioned, our CREATE study, the pivotal Phase III study for acquired angioedema due to C1 efficiency is well on track. I think definitely that the Chapter III data is very encouraging and give us a bit more confidence to see a prophylactic treatment effect for part 1 of the CREATE study. Meanwhile, Dr. Riedl, maybe I hand you over to you and also making introduce more about acquired angioedema patients.

Marc Riedl

attendee
#13

Sure. Yes. I mean, I think, for the most part, acquired C1 inhibitor deficiency behaves clinically very much like type 1 and type 2 HAE I mean it is one inhibitor deficiency, of course, the underlying cause is quite different. Due to consumption rather than a genetic deficiency and acquired C1 inhibitor deficiency, but clinically speaking, when we manage those patients the acquired C1 inhibitor patient patients. We use really all the same principles and in fact, the same medications, they're off-label in at least in those regions of the world. But point being that we would expect that success in type 1 and type 2 HAE would predict similar results and acquired C1 inhibitor deficiency. So of course, you have to do the study to prove that. But that would be the anticipated outcome.

Operator

operator
#14

Next question in queue coming from the line of Joe Schwartz with Leerink Partners.

Joseph Schwartz

analyst
#15

Congrats on the results. I have one for the company and one for Dr. Riedl I think the release notes an increase in the percentage of attack-free participants, but it doesn't quantify it. So I was wondering if you could give us any insight into the proportion of patients on Deucrictibant who were attack-free over the 24 weeks and how that compared to placebo? And then thank you for your perspective, Dr. Riedl in your clinic when patients evaluate a prophylactic therapy, what do they anchor on? Is it the percent attack reduction, those that are attack-free or is it the route and frequency of administration. And when there's a once-daily pill, how do you think it will set up in the considerations that patients consider when there's monthly or every other month injections in that trade-off.

Peng Lu

executive
#16

Yes. Thanks so much for the great question. But within the Chapter 3 study altogether that we enrolled 5 patients with normal C1 inhibitor Among these supply patients, actually 3 patients received the active treatment Deucrictibant XR. As Dr. Riedl highlighted that for the normal C1 patients due to the different -- the genetic mutation or underlying that different [indiscernible] pathways. The response relatively higher at higher variability compared to the Type 12A patients. Therefore, we [indiscernible] 3 patients, we observed that 1 patient with less than 50% reduction where patients get 90% reduction and 1 patient attack-free. Hopefully, we address your question.

Joseph Schwartz

analyst
#17

Yes, that's super helpful. And Dr. Riedl, how do you think that a once-daily pill will set up relative to some of the less frequently administered injections that are available.

Marc Riedl

attendee
#18

Yes. Thanks for the question. I really like your question because the complexity of what goes on in the clinic. And it's -- it's a little bit hard to answer, meaning your question, what do patients anchor on? What are they most interested in? I think it's a combination of things. And I sort of always joke. I'm notoriously bad at predicting what specific treatment an individual would chose because these conversations are complex with a lot of factors. But I will tell you that just my experience. I think efficacy almost always carries the day, meaning that it's got to work. And I think -- we spend a lot of time talking about efficacy. We do discuss from the pivotal trials, the average reduction and a 10% reduction in attack rate as kind of an important endpoint. I will say that patients are also increasingly interested in this attack-free outcome that I think you mentioned what are the chances from the study that I won't have a tax at all for long stretches of time. But I think closely behind efficacy, and you touched on it, is the route or the -- I call it the schedule, right? What do I have to do to get the benefits of the medicine. And my experience is that patients are very, very interested in oral medications. Generally, patients don't like injections or infusions. Of course, as you said, as these become less frequent, it might become more palatable. But we've seen tremendous interest in the oral agents that have been available to date, whether those are appropriate on demand. And I see that continuing. So I do think that there is sort of an advantage to the oral route for most patients, perhaps not all, and that, that's something that they can picture themselves adhering to over time, a daily pill, it's portable, it's easier to take with them when they travel and it becomes part of their routine. So I do think that, that is attractive to patients. is this drug going to be for everyone? No. That's why it's nice to have options, but I do think we're going to have a lot of conversations if and when this is in the clinic, a lot of conversations, people will be asking about this because of the considerable interest in the oral routes overall.

Operator

operator
#19

Our next question in queue coming from the line of Steve Seedhouse with Cantor Fitzgerald.

Steven Seedhouse

analyst
#20

Congratulations on the results. First question I had -- I was just hoping you could expand on the safety profile you saw in the study. I saw there was -- I think there was a few grade 3 events, one Grade 4 event that I think you said was a little range deal HAE attack, which seems fine. And then there was one HAE as well. So would you mind just expanding on those HAEs and the overall safety profile observed in the study.

Peng Lu

executive
#21

Yes. Thanks, Steve. I appreciate the question. The as illustrated in the presentation, we do observe the one that serious adverse events, it's a [indiscernible]. Actually, for this, this is actually a normal C1 patient. As before joins the CAFTA III study, this patient report in 19 or Lorena attack during the screening period. That's why due to the long time [indiscernible] and also multiple times incubation, these patients actually have local [indiscernible]. That's why during the study, actually, this patient achieved a 90% type reduction and 1x the patient due to the local quarter-to-quarter and hospitalized. And during the assessment, there is no swelling during the laryngeal microscope and the patient consider it's not the PI considered is not treating related. Actually, during foot, the PI told the patient very happy once we joined the study even back to work. We really feel proud that we do credit help our patients here.

Steven Seedhouse

analyst
#22

Okay. Super helpful. I was hoping also you could comment on prior prophylactic use by patients entering the study like what proportion had been on prior prophylaxis versus treatment naive? And did you have representation from prior [indiscernible] use specifically?

Peng Lu

executive
#23

Yes. Excellent question. I believe during our demographic flyback we show around maybe between 20 to 30 patients. on prophylaxis price towards the study. Yes, that actually these patients have that organs have the run us and also C1 inhibitor [indiscernible].

Steven Seedhouse

analyst
#24

Okay. And then Berndt, you mentioned in the press release and in your closing comments that this encourages the company to develop novel therapies or maybe even Deucrictibant for [indiscernible] diseases beyond angioedema. And of course, you recently published this review sort of summarizing a bunch of indications where B2R may be involved. So I was hoping you could expand on your plans going forward in that regard.

Berndt A. Modig

executive
#25

Yes, sure. So we are -- as you also pointed out, evaluating, looking at rate kind of mediated diseases that could potentially be product extensions of Deucrictibant. So that is in the sort of final stages of evaluation, and we plan to make some decisions on potential starting from clinical development and to generate data for these other indications. We have not publicly disclosed or define exactly what that is yet. But in due course, we will provide more information about that. And so stay tuned.

Steven Seedhouse

analyst
#26

Okay. Great. And just last one quickly. Can you say what proportion of the 85 patients enrolled and are continuing in the Chapter 4 open-label extension and I guess, what's the plan for data disclosure from that going forward?

Peng Lu

executive
#27

Yes. Excellent question. As I mentioned, the 83 patients continue the study out of 880 patients roll over to the CHEP study Currently, the study is ongoing, and we have continued to monitor long time efficacy safety with the [indiscernible] study.

Operator

operator
#28

Our next question coming from the line of Jon Wolleben with Citizens Bank.

Jonathan Wolleben

analyst
#29

Two for me. I'm just wondering if you could give us some sense of the most common HAEs on Deucrictibant, whether it's more than 5% or 10% of incidence rates. And then for Dr. Riedl, if Deucrictibant becomes available in both the on-demand and prophylactic setting, can you walk us through how you think about shared decision-making and introducing this option to patients when they come in or patients thinking about switching to a new therapy?

Peng Lu

executive
#30

Yes. As presented that for the safety section, the most common adverse events per reparatory set infection may so very guide us and also headache as I showed here, the overall is been like placebo and active group. Marc? I believe second question for Dr. Riedl. Do you have any follow-up safety questions?

Jonathan Wolleben

analyst
#31

No, that was helpful.

Marc Riedl

attendee
#32

Yes. Related to the -- if and when this is available in the clinic. I mean I think general practice at our center as new medications come to market to discuss those with patients just as you noted. I think don't know the future, but the on-demand treatment or the on-demand indication for Deucrictibant looks like it would arrive first. And so I think we've we -- as people know, we have some experience with oral on-demand medication already. I think this is not the focus of this discussion, but the on-demand treatment data would be quick demand looks extremely strong. And so I think this mechanism of action, the D2 receptor antagonism is something we have a lot of experience with iCAD band over the years. And so I think that will appeal to patients as an oral route with that mechanism of action to treat tax. As I already alluded to, I think the long-term prophylactic indication given the efficacy we're seeing the tolerability in an oral route will really be an important discussion. I think I think patients will be very interested in that, those that are either not on -- or sorry, not on long-term prophylaxis at this point because they haven't liked the options or those that actually are on already. Again, the parenteral drug having some burden of treatment, I think we will see people considering this as a potential switch candidates. And then as mentioned earlier, I think the appeal of having an oral treatment for both on-demand and long-term prophylaxis is something that could, in some ways, simplify what we're doing. Of course, we haven't done that yet, but I think that's sort of having one source, if you will, for both types of medications is there some logistical advantages to that as a clinician of sort of one-stop shop, if you will, for the little bit complicated treatment plans you developed for individual patients. So anyway, those are just some of my thoughts about what we might see in the clinical space, if and when we're able to prescribe Deucrictibant.

Operator

operator
#33

Our next question coming from the line of Tazeen Ahmad with Bank of America.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#34

Congratulations on the positive data. So if you think about the world where you will have the options of both on-demand and prophylaxis available. How should we be thinking about a couple of things? First, about the initial ramp for on-demand? And based on that initial ramp, should we assume, based on the evidence presented to date, that the appeal of having top and on-demand options once the prophylaxis indication launches would also accelerate the on-demand? And then I have a follow-up.

Berndt A. Modig

executive
#35

Yes. Thanks for that question. And I'll hand also to Wim in a minute. I think basically, as you know, from our launch sequence of on-demand and [indiscernible] that the launch of the on-demand indication basically is a finder or paving the way for the prophylactic launch it follows afterwards. So they're very much integrated. And we -- the opportunity for patients to try first direct about with the on demand, we think, assuming that there will be a positive experience for patients that they would have very strong interest in and also trying to a prophylactic formulation, but we opted to that.

Wim Souverijns

executive
#36

Yes. Thanks, Berndt. And I would absolutely echo that. I think it's a huge advantage of having these two options. We -- for us, the on-demand launch is critically important because the better we do there, the better we think we can accelerate the prophylactic launch. We basically get head start on prophylaxis just by getting experience with the therapy. And given that you cite band has the same mechanism like catatonic is still the standard of care today across the world, that bodes very well, we believe, to kind of convince patients on demand, whether they are on prophylaxis or only use on-demand therapy to switch bands. One of the prophylactic then gets approved, that becomes an amplifier potentially for the on-demand segment too, but we definitely feel that there's a huge advantage to have both in our mantra. And as I said before, this is a feedback we're not getting just from doctors we get from patients is getting this from payers. So I think this is a real advantage that we can bring to this market here.

Marc Riedl

attendee
#37

Yes. Maybe also add to that particularly as a new entrant into the market, then all to find the patient and to be able to address the patients once we have an approved therapy that the on-demand launch, then would generate that information for us to fully and also support. And as Wim said, amplify or put an extra boost into the subsequent prophylactic launch.

Tazeen Ahmad

analyst
#38

Okay. And then as a follow-up, how long do you think it would take to negotiate with payers what prophy is eventually approved in order to potentially position yourself as a preferred option having both the on-demand and the prophylaxis options available?

Berndt A. Modig

executive
#39

So actually, it aims a great question. We are very active already. Our plan is to, by the time of on-demand approval is approved. We have more than 90% live coverage conversations with payers, PBMs, states, et cetera. So we are very active already kind of educating the payer community on the data. And whenever we speak about the data, we obviously bring forward the Phase III data on demand with RPI. But in [indiscernible], we're also talking about already our Chapter 1 data, which is the Phase II for provide giving those payers already an insight that better is more coming. And obviously, that will be accelerated now that we have had the Phase III data. So I think we're going to be in a very good spot. And as I said before, this is a little bit of the advantage of having the on-demand before the prophylactic ones because, as you know, building a relationship with payer is things that take time. And so the bigger opportunity ultimately will be the prophylactic market, and we're going to have this time with on dementia really establishing ourselves as a preferred partner there. So I'm very positive, very optimistic that we can accelerate what normally, if you would have only on the prophylactic launch, it would probably take more time to get on to this formula and getting the status that we would aim for. Does that answer your question?

Operator

operator
#40

Our next question coming from the line of Debjit Chattopadhyay from Guggenheim Securities.

Debjit Chattopadhyay

analyst
#41

One for Dr. Riedl [indiscernible] one for the company. Dr. Riedl, if you have patients on [indiscernible], would you switch them over to deplete van given what we have seen from the data today? And then to the company, could you sort of clarify the two patients with liver enzyme elevations were these grade 3 events? Or how should we understand it? It wasn't particularly clear to us.

Marc Riedl

attendee
#42

Yes. Thanks for the question. So certainly, we do have patients on Orladeyo. As people know, that's been a very useful oral preventative drug the responses are variable to Orladeyo, and that's true for a lot of medicines. But certainly, for instance, the responder analysis that we've done in the Orladeyo Phase III trial so much more variability than we've seen in some other Phase III studies. And so to answer your question, there are patients who are doing extremely well on Orladeyo, and I think they would probably have a little motivation to switch, but there are certainly a substantial number of patients who are getting benefit from Orladeyo, but not seeing quite the efficacy that we'd like. And so I do think that there's a subset of patients that are all about the oral routes, that's their preferred way to go, and that's why they're on Orladeyo, but it would like to see better preventative effects. And so I think these are conversations we'll have with them and humans being human, some will stick with what they know and -- but a significant number, I think say, yes, I like the idea of an oral medicine that may need better prevention. And so I think that's certainly a group that I think this would be a very useful medication for. And as I mentioned before, there maybe also certainly be patients on parenteral drugs who like the efficacy of those drugs but would prefer the oral route. So I do think these are going to be really important conversations because we do continue to see patients switching from one medicine to another given that data comes out. And I think we'll continue to see that as these new medicines come to market.

Peng Lu

executive
#43

Yes. I will take over the [indiscernible] question. Appreciate the questions update. Indeed, that within the chapter study, we have the 2 patients who was observed, as I mentioned, Level 2 in some elevation whether it's pretty much slightly above fivefold increase from the upper top line limit. And for those of patients actually symptomatic. As you know that the elevation of [indiscernible] was observed. And both patients have good forming factors with either long-term antigen use or the steer there. So one that actually investigator decided to discontinue the patient from the treatment, as we mentioned, there is one that decision patient discontinued from the study earlier. And another actually, I continue the treatment and the patients human the treatment and complete the study.

Operator

operator
#44

Our next question in queue coming from the line of Laura Chico with Wedbush.

Laura Chico

analyst
#45

A couple for Dr. Riedl tell and then a couple for Pharvaris. Dr. Riedl, how many patients -- of all your currently managed HAE patients, what proportion are actually on an oral prop regimen today. And I'm curious where you think that might go in a couple of years from now once Deucrictibant XR reaches the market. And then with respect to switching switches from Orladeyo makes sense. But I guess, over time, would you anticipate more switches from TAKHZYRO or Orladeyo. I'm just kind of curious where you think the bulk of the switches would originate from. And then with respect to Pharvaris on pricing, just following up on your earlier commentary, how should we think about the pricing relative to other prophy therapies? I guess I'm trying to understand kind of the view of the value delivery here relative to other treatments?

Maggie Beller

executive
#46

So yes, so my part of it, ballpark of patients on the current oral protein that's out there, we probably have in our big centers probably maybe about 20% of our patients on the oral prophylaxis on [indiscernible] and so like I said, a lot of patients have been very interested in the oral route, but we have seen some move to other things because of efficacy concerns and probably a smaller number due to some of the thought effects that occur commonly. So there's that group. Your question about switches is a very good one, and it's a hard one to answer. I think that we certainly have seen slowly over time some of the [indiscernible] or TAKHZYRO patients moving to other things. And I do think that's a population that because most of our patients are on every 2 weeks to see with that medication. And while that's -- people will certainly do it, it does -- it is something we hear about that becomes a little bit onerous over time. Some of those patients have switched to the less frequently dosed subcutaneous options that have come along. And so we've already seen a little bit of migration there. But I do -- to answer your question, I do suspect there are some TAKHZYRO patients that as this data gets seminate disseminated has kind of been waiting for oral treatment that might have similar efficacy. And so I think we may see some switches there. I think as already mentioned, I would anticipate some switches from or idea because those patients are really focused on oral medicine but would prefer something that might be somewhat more effective for them. So a long way of saying, I think we will see some -- potentially some migration from both of those groups just based on either the tolerability profile or the efficacy profile and -- but the final caveat is it difficult to predict what individuals or even being will decide. So those will be really, I think, kind of fascinating conversations to have with our patients.

Berndt A. Modig

executive
#47

Yes. Then on the question on pricing. So what we haven't seen in this therapeutic area, in any of the entrance is any strategies when it comes to pricing, it has to be based on value and patient benefit. And so we haven't talked in detail about our pricing strategy yet. Maybe you can help add something to that.

Wim Souverijns

executive
#48

No, I think you're absolutely right, Berndt. I think the beauty of this data is that it puts us, as we said before, gives injectable efficacy in all convenience therapy. And that provides us all the options. So what we'll be doing, we're looking at payer dynamics. We were looking at receptivity on the [indiscernible] value. And that will then drive our pricing decision ultimately. But we're in a very good position. So I think we can leverage really the data that we have here.

Operator

operator
#49

Next question in queue coming from the line of Sushila Hernandez.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#50

Yes. This is Rami on for Sushila. I have two. First for the virus team. Just a follow-up on the safety in relation to the liver enzyme validation. I was wondering if you expect this to be a potential concern for the labor? And then the next for Dr. Riedl, could you share your experience with enrolling patients in the trial, especially those switching from other therapies?

Peng Lu

executive
#51

Yes. Maybe I can take over the first two questions. As we explain to we do observe is that Level 2, [indiscernible] Deucrictibant [indiscernible] we would expect that from the labor part, it may be quite a bit comparable to the other HAE Prophylaxis treatment maybe potentially there is one section in the label about the lab of normality to illustrate [indiscernible] innovation here.

Marc Riedl

attendee
#52

Yes. And just to speak to the enrollment in the study as people might know, enrolling in clinical trials, at least in the U.S., have become a little more challenging. As I mentioned in my comments, we're still seeing patients enroll because they do recognize that there's room for improvement. And so while it's a little bit slower or a little less risk than it used to be a decade ago, we're still able to enroll. And I think for this trial, it's going to sound repetitive, but I think the real draw was this once-a-day oral pill that at least based on the Phase II data we had looked very promising in terms of efficacy. And so that was for our patients that enrolled that was the drag. I could take a pill once a day. And potentially get the effect that has been seen previously only really with injected medicine. So again, I think that speaks to the advance that this may represent and how that may roll out in the clinic is something that's appealing. That's what drew our patients to the study to begin with.

Operator

operator
#53

Our next question in queue coming from the line of [indiscernible] with Oppenheimer.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#54

This is [indiscernible] on for Jeff Jones. A couple from us. What are the key gating items ahead of your NDA submission? Any strategic plan per share for U.S. markets going forward? Also questions to Dr. Riedl, what kind of patients do you see being the first to adopt [indiscernible] or patients [indiscernible] using Orladeyo or patients on injectables?

Maggie Beller

executive
#55

Maybe you repeat that question because it was a little hard -- it's breaking up in the middle of it.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#56

Sure. What are the key gating items ahead of the NDA submission? And any strategic plan could you share for ex U.S. markets going forward?

Marc Riedl

attendee
#57

Yes. So the submission is also that we also -- for peripheral access, as we have also mentioned earlier, is looking to generate data and acquire and potentially include that in the filing. But the -- that's not really viewed as a gating out in we will determine the filing date based on the appropriate timing when we have the file ready, and then we will see where we stand with the acquired EMA data. What we also need in order to complete the package for the filing. It's also the totality of the safety database with the CPT 4 study. So that is -- which is still ongoing.

Peng Lu

executive
#58

Yes. As per mentioned altogether for -- and information regarding the prophylaxis. So we integrated Chapter 3 and also safety package, as I mentioned, 1 year safety data from the chest and also hopefully that acquired [indiscernible] Part 1 pit results, then we will put it all together for the prophylactic filing for [indiscernible].

Berndt A. Modig

executive
#59

And your question is regarding the ex U.S. strategy. So as you probably seen with a fiber validated by the EMA recently. So we have submitted for European approval there as well. Our focus clearly is on the U.S., but we're doing already kind of clinical activities in preparation for Europe looking at our value previous as you probably know, ex U.S. payer interactions are very different. So that's the key focus. And we'll look at how we execute on this, we still have options to decide how we want to progress with that.

Marc Riedl

attendee
#60

Yes. And then I think there was a question for me, for my part of it. I think the candidates for Deucrictibant, first and foremost, any new patients newly diagnosed or new to prophylaxis. My experience is that given choices the vast majority of patients will opt for an oral medicine before an injected medicine. I just I don't see too many patients signing up for injections, if there's an oral medicine that will accomplish the same thing. So I think that's -- that's certainly been our experience that, that would be a so-called early adopters of this. I think there is -- as we've talked about, there is a subgroup of patients that really oral medicine is what they're on or what they're going to tolerate the best. And so there is a subset of patients on current oral therapies that aren't doing as well as we'd like. And so those would be, I think, prime candidates to switch to an oral medicine with perhaps a better efficacy profile or tolerability profile. And then lastly, I think there's a subset of patients on parenteral drugs who have gone there because of the efficacy of those agents. And some of them are doing really well, and we'll stay on that. But there's also a subset of those patients who tolerate those injections because it works for them, it's effective, but given the option, they would rather not have to keep that schedule of injections. And so -- so again, it's -- I think you sort of see borrowing from these different groups, it becomes a fairly substantial number of people who are going to take a close look at this -- but that's kind of how I would see it rolling out those kind of groups in that order.

Maggie Beller

executive
#61

Thank you so much to everybody who joined our conference call. This has concluded the Q&A portion of the call. I understand there is still more questions in the queue. I'll be reaching out to those people directly. And once again, thank you very much. We're thrilled with these data, and we look forward to continuing to progress new potential treatment options for people living with [indiscernible] angioedema. Thank you.

Operator

operator
#62

Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude the conference for today. Thank you for your participation, and you may now disconnect.

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