Planet 13 Holdings Inc. (PLTH) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

March 23, 2023

Canadian Securities Exchange CA Health Care Pharmaceuticals earnings 31 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Good evening, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to today's Planet 13 Fourth Quarter 2022 Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] It's now my pleasure to turn the floor over to your host, Mark Kuindersma, Head of Investor Relations. Mark, the floor is yours.

Mark Kuindersma

attendee
#2

Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone, and thanks for joining us today. Planet 13 Holdings' Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year 2022 financial results were released today. The press release, the company's quarterly report 10-K including the MD&A and financial statements are available on the SEC's website, EDGAR and SEDAR as well as on our website, planet13holdings.com. Before I pass the call over to management, we'd like to remind listeners that portions of today's discussion include forward-looking statements. There can be no assurances that such information will prove to be accurate or that management's expectations or estimates of future developments, circumstances or results will materialize. As a result of these risks and uncertainties, the results or events predicted in these forward-looking statements may differ materially from actual results or events. Risk factors that could affect results are detailed in the company's public filings that are made available with the United States Securities and Exchange Commission and on SEDAR. We encourage listeners to read those statements in conjunction with today's call. The forward-looking statements in this conference call are made as of the date of this call. Planet 13 disclaims any intention or obligation to update or revise such information, except as required by applicable law and does not assume any liability for disclosure related to any comments mentioned herein. In addition, we will refer to both GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures. For information regarding our non-GAAP financial measures and reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP measures, please refer to today's press release posted on our website. Planet 13's financial statements are presented in U.S. dollars and the results discussed during this call are in U.S. dollars, unless otherwise indicated. On the call today, we have Larry Scheffler, Co-Chairman and Co-CEO; Bob Groesbeck, Co-Chairman, and Co-CEO; Dennis Logan, CFO. I'll now pass the call over to Larry Scheffler, Co-Chair and Co-CEO of Planet 13 Holdings.

Larry Scheffler

executive
#3

Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for participating in our fourth quarter and full year call. I'll be discussing our performance in Nevada and California. Dennis will discuss our financial performance, and Bob will provide an update on our growth initiatives and plans for 2023 later on the call. 2022 was a challenging year across the economy, consumers dealt with dual pressures of high inflation and rising interest rates that took money out of their pockets. We've seen the impact of this on the other cannabis companies that have already reported as well as many companies that are focused on consumer discretionary spending. Turning to the impact on our individual states. In Nevada, the trends we've all seen -- we've seen all year have started to stabilize with pricing compression slowing in Nevada State, while sales relatively flat from Q3 to Q4. We've also seen some of the more marginal dispensaries start to go out of business in Q4, reducing the risk for future competition and pricing pressure. We're optimistic that this is a sustaining change in the trend line. Despite all of the new competition over the last couple of quarters, we've been able to maintain our share of Nevada sales at 8.5% for the quarter and 9% for the full year in line with our long-term goals of between 8% and 10%. We expect this to continue to have some fluctuations quarter-to-quarter from Q2 and Q3 being traditionally stronger due to higher tourist traffic, but fully intend to continue to set this benchmark on our retail operations in the state. In Q4, in Nevada, we generated $14 million from the SuperStore, $2 million from curbside and delivery, $2 million from medicine, $2 million from other Nevada wholesale -- from Nevada wholesale and other. Total Nevada revenue was $20 million compared to $20.5 million in Q3. For the full year, we generated $80.6 million from Nevada retail companies compared to $107.5 million in 2021. This decrease was caused by the material weakening of the consumer at over 20% decline in equivalent per gram cannabis prices as well as reduction in the number of California tourists in Las Vegas. On the wholesale side, we took advantage of the new doors opening in the state over the course of the year and our incredible product portfolio to grow wholesale by 26% year-over-year. This strength continues with December and January being our 2 highest months ever and February performing very well on a per day basis. I'll call out specifically the increased sales of our medicine flower brand, which has seen strong growth since the completion of our cultivation expansion in September of 2022. Through the fourth quarter and 2022, we continue to enhance our portfolio and bring top cannabis brands and products to the consumers. Per BBSA, we grew medicine to the #2 flower brand in Q4, AHA to the #5 candy brand. Dreamland Chocolates to the #1 chocolate brand and TRENDI to the #3 concentrate and #4 Bake brand in the state. This is an impressive performance for our house of brands and a testimony to our cultivation production and sales staff. Looking ahead, in Nevada, we're optimistic that the trend we saw in the fourth quarter with the normalization on pricing is a sign of the bottom of the market. And so far through Q1 2023, that appears to be the case with pricing and steel stabilizing. The obvious caveat is that is that's what happens with a wider macro environment. We've seen pressure on consumer wallets resulting in consumers trading down to lower cost options or shopping in bulk to receive more discounts. If inflation interest rates in the economy continue to take money out of consumers' pockets, it could lead to further sales pressure. Turning to California. In Q4, we generated $4.9 million of revenue, which is a slight reduction as a result of typical seasonality, but a massive increase of 88% over the same period in 2021, mainly driven by the expansion of wholesale in California from our acquisition of Next Green Wave. This thing can be seen looking at the full year. Through 2021, we generated $18.1 million compared to $5 million in 2021. Looking forward to California, our operations continue to mature and gain momentum. We are also continuing to expand distribution to our wholesale portfolio. We obviously don't expect to replicate the success we've had in Nevada and become a Top 5 selling product in every category in California. But we're confident and have seen our products at good velocity and are a welcome addition to our third-party shelves. With that, I'll pass it over to Dennis to discuss our financials.

Dennis Logan

executive
#4

Thank you, Larry. Before I begin, I'd just like to remind everyone that all numbers on today's call are in U.S. dollars, unless stated specifically otherwise. In Q4, we generated $24.8 million in revenue compared to $25.6 million in Q3, and that's a 3% decline quarter-over-quarter. As Larry discussed, the significant declines in pricing started to bottom in Q4, while unit sales volume has trended above that of Q3, enabling the company to offset some of the increased pricing pressure on operating costs that we have experienced during the quarter and during the year ended December 31, 2022. Q4 has historically been our slowest quarter and the shift in the pricing environment during the quarter was welcome to market developments. Looking at 2023, we expect revenue to be relatively flat for the first half of the year with growth towards the back end of the year driven by new assets coming online and continued growth from our wholesale operations in both Nevada and California. In Q4 2022, gross margin increased sequentially to 43% from 41.2% in Q3 2022. The increase was driven by gains in efficiency and yields at our cultivation facilities, along with an increase in the shelf space and sell-through rate of our house brands at our own dispensaries. Over the course of 2023, we expect continued incremental improvement in gross profit, especially in California. Having said that, we don't expect gross profit to reach north of 50% again because of the dilutive impact on margins from our growing wholesale operations in both California and Nevada. Gross margins at our retail operations continue to be in the high 50% range in Las Vegas and the low 50% range in California. We continue to target a long-term 50% or higher gross margin for all of our retail operations, and we expect gains from vertical integration to offset some of the pricing pressures at the retail level. Sales and marketing expense for the quarter was $1 million, up from $938,000 in Q3 and down substantially from the $1.8 million in Q4 2021. For the full year, $3.5 million compared to $6 million in 2021. We continue to focus our marketing activities on areas that are direct sales drivers such as events and activities and celebrity appearances, where we can readily measure the incremental sales generated and the return on the investment from this targeted spending. The company spent $12.5 million of G&A expenses in the quarter, down significantly from the $15.7 million in Q4 of '21. Across the organization, we are doing a good job of controlling our costs and improving our efficiency. For the full year, G&A was $49.3 million compared to $59.9 million in 2021. The improvements in sales and marketing and G&A are clear signs of our focus on cost control and cash flow. This continues to be a priority for us in 2023, becoming a leaner, more efficient company that can propel future growth and most importantly, generate sustainable cash flow despite the unfair -- what we consider unfair 280E tax treatment. During the quarter, we also took a $32.7 million impairment charge related to our cultivation assets in California. As we've seen across the industry, the change in valuations and the decrease in wholesale pricing in the California market led us to a revaluation of the assets on our and several of our competitors' balance sheets, leading to this impairment charge. This impairment charge reduces the carrying value of the goodwill on our balance sheet to 0, but does not impact our cash flow or our business fundamentals. In 2023, we generated $3.8 million in positive operating cash flow while remaining current on our taxes payable balance. We've done this while supporting the build-out of Florida and Illinois, which are both still pre-revenue. It's a testament to our individual state level of profitability in Nevada and working towards that in California. As we increase the scale of our operations and generate more revenue, we expect to improve operating leverage and cash flow. As of December 31, 2022, the company had a cash balance of $52 million and no debt. In 2022, we spent approximately $14.1 million on CapEx between our Nevada cultivation facility expansion, which was completed during Q4 and the build-out of our Florida operations. As we've discussed, our priorities as we look ahead to 2023 are to build scale and increase profitability and operating cash flow. We are focused on the continued build-out of Florida as well as focusing on our Illinois dispensary and looking for other profitable stand-alone opportunities that will increase Planet 13 scale. We will be opportunistic in managing the CapEx requirement for these initiatives and continue to seek alternatives that reduce CapEx in order to conserve our cash position. We believe having a strong cash position, generating cash -- positive cash flow and being debt free gives us flexibility to weather the current storm that other cannabis operators do not have such luxury dealing. And with that, I'll turn it over to Bob.

Robert Groesbeck

executive
#5

Thank you, Dennis, and good afternoon, everyone. Throughout 2022, we took steps to add scale to the business. We've gone from essentially a single-state operator to a vertically integrated multistate operator with a lot of growth ahead. Looking at our various growth projects. In Illinois, for instance, we're making significant progress. In February of this year, we purchased the dispensary location and started renovations. We also purchased the remaining 51% ownership in February, making the Illinois dispensary now 100% owned by Planet 13. We are very excited about the prospects for this dispensary. Its location in Waukegan, in a prominent shopping center and beside a large casino project will ensure built-in customer foot traffic. The store is similar to our neighborhood style stores with a smaller footprint and lower operating expense yet still offering the unique customer experience that Planet 13 is known for. We are targeting an opening for later this year. We've also been getting discussions with many different producers in the state to ensure we get competitive pricing and diverse inventory selection. We don't see any issues in that regard with not being vertically integrated. With so many MSOs in the state, there's a lot of competition and we believe we can ensure a steady supply at attractive prices. Turning to Nevada. We are provisionally approved for consumption lounge on December 5. We are working closely with the regulators to craft our plan and are exploring all options, including working with partners to lower the CapEx and operating costs involved with the lounge. This is a new and exciting frontier for the cannabis industry. And alongside our various stakeholders, we are working to figure out the best path forward that exceeds everyone's expectations and delivers the highest return on investment for Planet 13. In Florida, we purchased our cultivation campus in July. We've been building out a focused hyper-efficient cultivation facility aimed at growing high-quality flower that is cost competitive. Concurrent with building out the facility, we've been exploring opportunities to take on leases from other companies as a way to speed our time to market, increase our long-term supply of edibles, vapes and other manufactured products. We signed leases with 4 dispensaries so far. All of them in good locations with easy access, good parking and very reasonable lease rates. We expect all of these dispensaries to have strong 4-wall economics once they are up and running and very low fixed cost. We expect all 6 of our initial dispensaries to be ready when our cultivation is online, and we're able to fully stock shop. Let's look back at 2022 for just a moment, and I'll address the 3 goals that we set at the beginning of the year and where we ended up. Our first goal, of course, was to maintain the 8% to 12% of Nevada retail sales and continue to grow wholesale share in the state while executing on accretive and diversified revenue opportunities. Looking at the year as a whole, we have maintained a 9% share in the Nevada retail market, and our wholesale revenue has continued to expand at 25% for the full year. We completed our belt cultivation expansion as indicated previously and have made progress on several opportunities to increase utilization of the SuperStore, include getting a consumption lounge approved and opened and other third-party shop-in-shop concepts. Unfortunately, we've seen an industry-wide slowdown in sales and a reduction in average unit price, which is limited to revenue in Nevada. But under the circumstances, all in all, we performed well throughout 2022. We are optimistic that this pricing pressure has stabilized and that we can grow revenue in Nevada in 2023 and continue to maintain that 8% to 12% margin stay wide from our 2 dispensaries. With respect to the second goal we set for ourselves, we were looking to improve profitability through increased sales and operating leverage at our dispensary in California, increased vertical integration and enter into profitable wholesale operations. Throughout 2022, we saw progress on all fronts. We successfully entered into the California wholesale operations and generated $3.1 million in Q4 alone. Our revenue on the retail side in California increased $9.8 million in 2022 compared to $5 million in 2021. We believe we can continue to grow those numbers in 2023. Over the course of the year, we've also drove margin expansion in California through better utilization rates at our wholesale facility, increased vertical integration at the OC store and more efficient staffing. Our third target at the start of the year was making progress on operations in Florida to drive growth and to open our doors in Florida in 2023. On this front, progress has been slower than we would have liked. We've attempted to speed up the path to market in a cost-efficient way, including taking over lease cultivation facilities while building our premium focused cultivation operation. We can continue with our plan to build out a cultivation facility that will be competitive, long term from an efficiency and quality perspective, but have had some of our lease opportunities fall through at the last minute. Overall, despite the difficulties facing the cannabis industry throughout the United States, we've been effective in our goal to meet the objectives that we set. We have generated meaningful expansion of sales on our owned brands and have made progress towards the expansion of Planet 13 in both Florida and Illinois. 2023 is an important year in the development of Planet 13. It will take a major step towards being a scaled multistate operator with revenue-generating retail in 4 states and a full vertical operation in 3 of those states. We are also seeing more and more opportunities to add assets to the portfolio for practically nothing that are synergistic with our current footprint. As we look at 2023, the goal is clear, to serve capital, improve profitability and increase scale and operating strength to ensure that Planet 13 is one of the companies that makes it through the challenging period, and reap the outside benefits available and long term for the cannabis industry's best companies. And with that, I'd like to thank everybody for participating today, and I'd ask the operator to now open the lines for questions. Thank you.

Operator

operator
#6

[Operator Instructions] And the first question is coming from Bobby Burleson from Canaccord.

Bobby Burleson

analyst
#7

So I guess this is for either Bob or Larry or both, it looks like some of the tourist data so far this year has gotten better versus last year, at least with the stuff I've seen and there's also talk about like a younger demographic and more international, stuff like that. Is that something that you're seeing at the SuperStore? How does that kind of play into your position vis-a-vis the tourist component of your demand?

Robert Groesbeck

executive
#8

Yes, Bobby, it's Bob. Yes. Look, we're really excited. We're seeing traffic upticks. We're seeing convention upticks. That's all positive news. And the type of events that are coming in are really exciting, and we think will complement our facility. For instance, we've got this weekend, the Sweet 16 and the Final 8 college basketball tournament here in town. We've got one of the largest concerts of the year here at Allegiant Friday night. And through the balance of the year, now we've got F1 coming in, which we think is going to be a huge draw later in the year. And with things such as the Super Bowl coming in and festival season is just starting with EDC and the other large outdoor events like Life is Beautiful. So we see a really strong summer and we're excited. The thing that's a bit concerning, of course, is addressed on the call is where does the economy go? From a macro perspective, we're -- as we see the Fed just raised interest rates again yesterday, this all has an impact on the customer and their wallets and their ability to pay. So we're going to watch that closely. And as Dennis said, we're going to continue to operate as efficiently as we can. But from a traffic standpoint, we're very encouraged. We think Vegas is on the upswing there.

Bobby Burleson

analyst
#9

Great. And then it sounds like some other operators are struggling in the state and just wondering how you plan on capitalizing on that. Clearly, you can pick up some share. Are there more aggressive things that you can do in terms of acquisitions? Or what are your thoughts on the extension event that seems to be underway?

Robert Groesbeck

executive
#10

Sure. We're continuing to watch that. Larry and I field inquiries -- multiple inquiries every week. We've got a lot of stores that are struggling. We think that's going to create some opportunities for us here in the near term. Again, it's just a function of those operators coming to the realization where the market really stands. And so we stay in touch with them, and we're optimistic we'll pick up some solid assets here as a result.

Larry Scheffler

executive
#11

Yes. This is Larry, I'll add that the other big benefit for us, even if we want to pick up the assets is the getting rid of some of the competition, and we'll pick up the customers that are left to be divided between the ones that survive this downturn of dispensaries leaving us. So it will be huge.

Operator

operator
#12

[Operator Instructions] The next question is coming from Doug Cooper with Beacon Securities.

Doug Cooper

analyst
#13

Let's start on the balance sheet just so I'm clear. So $53 million, I think, it was, Dennis, as of December 31?

Dennis Logan

executive
#14

Correct.

Doug Cooper

analyst
#15

What is the CapEx budget? And just remind me how much you have to pay in February to take out the minority in terms of the Illinois? And then what is the CapEx expected remaining in Florida and Illinois? I guess I'm looking for pro forma cash number.

Dennis Logan

executive
#16

So 50 -- kind of $53 million on the balance sheet. If you look at the subsequent to the year-end, we spent $2.1 million -- $2.2 million purchasing the land for the Waukegan dispensary. We will likely spend another $2.5 million on the build-out of that dispensary. So it'll be with a $5 million asset there, and then we'll do a sale leaseback on that to get some of that cash back. So I look at that as a temporary out. And then we had to pay Frank $866,000 in cash to buy out the 51% of that license that we didn't own. So that gives you a summary of where we are. In Illinois, in terms of the build-out there, I think we have, call it, $3 million to $5 million that we may spend on the SuperStore, expanding the Grand Hallway and building a great shelf or another lease opportunity in that space. And then also, as Bob mentioned, working with the regulators on the lounge, although we don't intend to spend very much on the lounge, and we will take advantage of some of our existing space and do that conversion. And then the bigger one is Florida, managing aggressively the CapEx spend there. Obviously, we have 4 leased locations that we haven't started paying lease rates on them yet. I think they kick in at some point in '23. And as Bob mentioned, we're looking at opportunities to get into that market faster than what we would otherwise be able to do if we built out on our own, but it will be a scale building where we can manage that cash outflow. So I would target no more than $5 million that we spent in Florida at least in the near term.

Doug Cooper

analyst
#17

Okay. And Illinois is expected to come on with revenue producing in what we consider second half, obviously, but this closer to Q4? And then Florida you anticipate revenue from this year?

Dennis Logan

executive
#18

You're correct on Illinois. I think it would be closer to the end of Q3 into Q4 depending we're a little bit ahead of schedule in terms of our construction, budget time line. Florida, it's really going to depend on the opportunities that we're currently working on. If they come to fruition, it could be sooner. And if they don't, then it will be likely back end of the year into 2024.

Doug Cooper

analyst
#19

Okay. And the dispensary Illinois, given its location next to casino, how many square feet is it, just remind us?

Dennis Logan

executive
#20

Bill is on. Bill, do you have the square footage? Otherwise...

Robert Groesbeck

executive
#21

Yes, we do total building about 8,000 square feet, 2 levels. First floor dispensary retail gross footprint about 4,000 feet.

Doug Cooper

analyst
#22

Okay. So what do you anticipate this -- is this like a $10 million opportunity, I think, in Illinois?

Dennis Logan

executive
#23

I would hope so. I mean that's what we're budgeting in that ballpark. I think it's a great location given it's next to a casino, and it's the high traffic down from Wisconsin and to Illinois, so we should put up a bunch of traffic that is currently visiting other dispensaries and pick up all the casino traffic. So if we can't do $10 million at that facility, I would be surprised.

Larry Scheffler

executive
#24

Well, this is Larry. I guess it depends. Yes, all I'll say is to compare it to something the largest gross in dispensary in the State of Illinois is 10 miles further south from the Wisconsin border and 10 miles farther west of the freeway. We're on the freeway across from a super Walmart next to the casino, next to that amusement park area about 15 minutes away. So we -- and I would anticipate more in the 20s, not the 10s for revenue.

Dennis Logan

executive
#25

Okay. That's why I said, Larry, if we can't do $10 million then what are we doing then, right?

Larry Scheffler

executive
#26

Yes, that's exactly right. I think that's...

Doug Cooper

analyst
#27

Okay. And my last one, just getting back to Bobby's question on Nevada. How many dispensaries are left now in Nevada, given that you implied that a few maybe shut down.

Robert Groesbeck

executive
#28

Well, yes, let's say that -- let me qualify what was said earlier. They haven't shut down. There are some that are on life support, a number of them. The problem is, Doug, the CCB keeps granting licenses. So we've got a number of dispensaries that continue to pop up, but they've got no market share. And like I said, their livelihood or the length of operation is very, very short, particularly the stand-alones. If you're not an integrated operator, you're basically on fumes right now.

Doug Cooper

analyst
#29

Okay. So I guess a 2-pronged things. So if you were -- had some opportunities, would you prefer them to be in Las Vegas itself? Or would you go outside of Reno or some of the other areas of the state? What are you looking -- what are you guys looking at like third -- like I know some of the publicly traded retailers here in Canada now trade 0.2x sales, public companies.

Robert Groesbeck

executive
#30

Yes, yes. Well, look, as far as location goes, I mean there are a couple of areas here in Clark County that would continue to be attractive for us. Northern Nevada is saturated, but there are a couple of stores up there that I think have some potential. Obviously, you don't have the population base up there that you have here in Southern Nevada, and you don't have anything close to the tourist drop. So like I said, there are some opportunities up there. And if they make sense for us, and we can get them at the right price, we'll probably jump on them. But there will be no shortage of opportunities here as we go into the summer in the fall.

Doug Cooper

analyst
#31

I can imagine you guys are just looking at maybe get off their lease liability and maybe get to realize some inventory or something like that.

Robert Groesbeck

executive
#32

Yes, of course.

Operator

operator
#33

We have reached the end of the question-and-answer session. This concludes today's conference, and you may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.

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