Planet Fitness, Inc. (PLNT) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
January 10, 2023
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Simeon Siegel
analystHello, everyone. This will be a fun one.
Thomas Fitzgerald
executiveCan I go over here?
Simeon Siegel
analystYou can pick which chair car you want. I'll go to the other one. Hi, Simeon Siegel. I cover Planet Fitness over at BMO. Excited to have the Planet Fitness team here.
Thomas Fitzgerald
executiveGood to be here.
Simeon Siegel
analystTom, nice to be back in person. We did this last time on the screen, so this is kind of nice. The chair is up pretty close too, so we've got hands in the middle.
Simeon Siegel
analystSo since -- what I want to start with is you're now at two ICRs with announcements. One more and we can guarantee that you're going do it every year. So why don't we talk about what you just put out because we got something from you. We got a nice number last night?
Chris Rondeau
executiveYes, sure. Yes, we have the fourth quarter -- noted our best fourth quarter on record for member growth, approximately 17 million members. So super excited about that, which couldn't be better leading in the first quarter. Those of you who aren't aware, 60% of our net member growth for the entire year is in the first quarter. And this industry and Planet Fitness, if you think about this is the first quarter in almost 4 years have been uninterrupted, right? So this sort of big first quarter for us. And that kind of momentum in the fourth quarter is just a great sign for us.
Simeon Siegel
analystSo talk about the why. We'll have some fun conversations about the what and the numbers, but let's talk about the why because, obviously, this is, I think, a better number than people were expecting, maybe than you guys were expecting, to your point, now we're leading into the strong period. So is this share taking? Is this -- has the landscape changed? We can say we're sort of post-COVID? I mean, why do you think that's happening?
Chris Rondeau
executiveYes, I'd say a few things. Definitely, there is no doubt that the Gen Z conversations we've been having now for 1.5 years. Gen Zs really took away from COVID the benefits of fitness, not just waistline, but mental health. And the acceleration -- I think about Gen Zs today are our second largest member base of our 17 million, pre-COVID they were our smallest member base. So I think how fast that grew over the last 3 years, right? We just did the High School Summer Pass last summer. We opened our doors for free for all high school age kids to work out, no charge whatsoever, no strings attached. And we've got 3.5 million kids off the couch, done this summertime. In 2019, that was only 1 million. So think about that. And in the third quarter, we announced that 5% of them have already joined. So that's also leading to the momentum in the fourth quarter. And I think lastly, we have the marketing -- three marketing agencies that are working together, been a really great relationship. We're getting best practices and fine-tuning each sale after each sale, which we use the learnings to go into the January sale, right? So I think we have just a big tailwind. And I think the COVID is gone and people are getting back to reality.
Simeon Siegel
analystAnd is that 5% number? Is that the right way to go past 3Q as we think about bringing the teams?
Chris Rondeau
executiveYes. So it's hard to really say, and the 5% is ahead of 2019 acquisition. But in 2019, 7 months later, COVID hit, so it's a little bit screwy on how that all math worked out. But when we launched High School Summer Pass this earlier last year, so May of '22, at that point, the 2019 team is 25% had become members at one point. And 11% were still members last May. So here, we're only at 5%. So there's a lot more tailwind there, and knock-on wood, but no COVID will mess that up.
Simeon Siegel
analystAre they different customers? Are they -- do they interact differently, different frequency. Like how do you think about that?
Chris Rondeau
executiveSure. So I think it started to happen with the Millennial generation. And today, believe it or not, we have almost 10% of every Millennial in the country as a current member. And we already have almost 10% of every Gen Z is a current member of the ones of age, so 15 and over. So still another 5 or 6 years of aging in of great penetration, right? But what we know is with the Millennials is definitely more functional training, TRx, [BOSU balls], kettle bells. So we started putting those in our gyms about 5 years ago. And I think with the -- now Gen Z being our second largest part of our member base, that will have more focus on probably a little larger functional areas. Treadmills still get used just as much, but the ellipticals and bikes aren't, not as much.
Simeon Siegel
analystCool. All right. I'm going to give you a breath right now. You just had your Analyst Day, it was great. You outlined an algorithm. Why don't you talk to that a little bit and maybe talk about it in the context of where we are now? And presumably you had this somewhat in mind when you provided it, but maybe just help us think through the multiyear versus any color you want to think about right now for this year because I think we are in this interesting time period where hopefully your business will not be predicated on decisions you make as opposed to external factors. So as you think about that, maybe give that context of the multiyear path, what we just got today and how do we blend the two in the middle for this year?
Thomas Fitzgerald
executiveYes. We thought it was important to lay out what we -- how we saw the next 3 years in terms of the algorithm, something we hadn't done before. And so in terms of revenue growth, we said low double digits, high double digits -- sorry, low to mid -- low double-digit teens, high double digits, high teens adjusted EBITDA growth. And we thought it was important also to lay out the fact that we want to commit to a consistent return of capital of cash to shareholders. And so we committed to buying back a minimum of 1 million shares a year. Historically, we would lever up and do an ASR and take a bunch of shares off the table. And we thought going forward, it made more sense to have a consistent level. We pegged it at 1 million shares a year with the opportunity to top it up where we saw fit. So people could count that. So we'll see adjusted EPS grow even faster. So -- and we thought it was also important to say we'll get to how 2023 looks, particularly as it relates to new stores on our Q4 earnings call when we provide our outlook. But we get asked a lot, when are we going to return back to 200 new stores a year. An important metric. We were at 260-ish in 2019 at our peak new stores per year in 2019. So we thought it was important to not necessarily talk about a given year, but we feel very confident that over that 3-year period, we'll build 600-plus new stores in planted across the globe. What's going to happen exactly in 2023 with some of the HVAC issues, we'll get to when we provide the outlook. But if you look beyond that, because we think it's a temporary problem, not a permanent problem, when we get beyond that, given the trends we see, the rebound sort of from the trough of COVID membership and how it's come back and how our same-store sales have performed, both corporate stores and our franchisees, we think the future is very bright. So we wanted to make sure that we could convey, again, not necessarily a near-term piece, but how we saw the next 3 years in the aggregate.
Simeon Siegel
analystOkay. So I want to come back to the HVAC thing because there's nothing more riveting than talking about HVAC. But before that, so just thinking about -- I think the Analyst Day, it feels like it was forever ago, I think it was October.
Thomas Fitzgerald
executiveMid-November.
Simeon Siegel
analystNovember, okay. So from then until now, would you characterize the update we just got as an outperformance versus where we were at that time in line with what you were expecting? Like how do we think about where we can see this number, we don't know what you were thinking into it.
Chris Rondeau
executiveIs that member growth? Or...
Simeon Siegel
analystYes, member growth.
Chris Rondeau
executiveYes. I think the November sale was good. I did not expect December to perform how it did. I knew it was going to be good, but it was really good. So it couldn't have been in a bit of time.
Simeon Siegel
analystOkay. All right. So let's go to the beauty that is forced air. So when you think about right now that 200 swing factor, what is external versus what are your franchisees wanting to open? What's the financing environment? Like help us think through that path there? How much of it is simply a timing thing because there are simply no HVACs and permitting takes longer in all of those pieces? The secondary piece there is how much just because it's higher build-out costs and so franchisees might want to wait. And the third being there's actually a decision to slow down because they want to take pause.
Thomas Fitzgerald
executiveYes. So I'll start that. So I think the costs are definitely up to build a Planet. If pre-COVID it was $2 million and change, it's up 20% today. Now some of those inflationary pressures are coming down. But franchisees pre-COVID we're typically ahead of their area development, new store build obligations. We've heard from -- we talk to our top 30 franchisees every year, and we've heard from them -- a few of them that they may slow it down a little bit, wait for some of those construction costs to come down a bit. So if they were ahead by x historically, they might be a little bit less than x going forward. But there's still an incentive to build. The stores generate great returns. We see our own corporate stores and we're quite pleased with those returns. And clearly, they vary by market. But what's also important you may have seen as we raised our annual fee from $39 for every member to $49, every new member that joins. We also raised our Black Card membership, was about 63% of our membership. In May of '22, we took it from $22.99 to $24.99, again, on all new members. The beauty of that is, while there are some headwinds on construction costs, every new store that gets built, will now have virtually all of the new members paying $49 annual fee when they come up and also paying $24.99 for the Black Card. There may be a few transfers from other clubs, but generally, all those new members are paying the new rates. So that adds a few points of 4-wall margin for every new store. It's not insignificant. So that sort of -- depending on the location and the different operating costs, can more than offset the headwinds that they're facing. And maybe the last piece, our system has about 120 franchisees. It was probably 140 or so last time we were here in 2020. So it's consolidated a little bit. About 12 of them are private equity backed. They're among the largest but they're not the top 12. We do have a couple of independents who are in the top 12. They have a defined time frame that they want to get out of this business or exit and take some chips off the table in whole or in part. And so they have an incentive to build because while it might cost you $2.5 million to build a new Planet, you're going to get $6 million to $8 million on the exit for that store. So it's the more you build, the more you're going to make. So we want people to build thoughtfully and not build aggressively so that the membership growth can keep up and support the store and the economics that they're used to, but they do have an incentive to hit the gas.
Simeon Siegel
analystSo that's an interesting point. How do you approach the turnover of your franchisee base? So as that happens, how do you deal with bringing in a new ushering, a new top player, if that is changing?
Chris Rondeau
executiveYes. We always interview them to be sure that culturally they fit, interests are aligned. They believe in the model. I mean, we are a very different gym model in other ways that we don't have the heavy dumbbells and [tutorials] in the counters and stuff like that and our equipment is purple and yellow, it looks like Barney, So it's little bit different when it comes to a gym model. So we make sure they align and believe in the business and a Judgement Free Zone, we really want to cater to casual first-time gym goers. And still to this day and has been for decades, almost 40% of our joins had never gone to a gym in their entire life. So we're truly just growing that pie and everybody else is catering to the fit getting fitter.
Simeon Siegel
analystSo how do you -- I'd love to talk to you guys about data and low-hanging fruit and kind of curious the progression there. But before we do that, talking about the pricing, How do you test whether it's churn with the Black Card members where you're raising their price or whether it's anticipated pushback from raising the annual fee? How would you test that? And what have you seen?
Chris Rondeau
executiveYes. I mean, that's the beauty of having corporate stores. We usually always test something even it's a piece of equipment, quite frankly. We'll test in a few corporate stores, if it seems to start working, we'll expand it to franchisees that want to play a part of the test and then watch retention, watch take rates and closing percentages. And if it ends up -- that it works, then we then roll out. But -- and that's why the Black Card, we've done it multiple times now, and reciprocity is the most used function of the Black Card. 1 in 5 workouts are not at their home club. They're traveling and using it, so 20%. So as we open more stores, that's a better value. And the White Card to us, the $10 is really sacred. I call it the get you off the couch price, and believe that 60% of these people come in and they see the benefits and they end up buying the Black Card. I mean, it's a great business. .
Simeon Siegel
analystAnd so within that, how do you think about -- however, within the report we just had, speaking of churn versus new joins. Anything worth calling out, anything you...
Chris Rondeau
executiveNo, no, everything has been as far as the retention and attrition, it's right where it should be. Over the last year, it's been slightly better this much. But nothing has changed there.
Simeon Siegel
analystAwesome. All right. So last year, we were sitting here virtually having this same conversation you had just potentially transform the structure of your business speaking of corporate stores. You got a big acquisition. We're now a year in reflection. What have we learned from owning a lot more corporate stores? Does it change your approach towards corporate versus franchise at all? And really, just any thoughts along the lines of just looking back?
Chris Rondeau
executiveYes. I think, Tom, you can add to it. I think we -- our goal was to be at 10%. It has been for a while, but the franchisees were growing faster than we could. And we have some of the oldest, most mature markets with less development so we didn't have a lot of units to build. With the Sunshine acquisition down in Florida and a few other states, they're all in Southern states, very diversified from our Northern states, a lot more units to build there. And you probably recall, one of the reasons we bought them is they were some of the best performing franchisees in our entire system, even better than the corporate stores. So we were hoping that they would have some influence on our original legacy fleet. And you probably saw we had doubled -- stronger same-store sales in the third quarter than the system, which had just never happened before. So they're having some influence, which is great. And I think we'll continue to see that trend.
Simeon Siegel
analystAnd how -- I don't know how -- what the closest overlap from a franchisee to the newly franchised stores are. But is there anything that was from population-wise anything that was close that now they're competing against corporate or operating with corporate as opposed to before, they had a franchise partner? A neighboring store that as you brought Sunshine in, whatever the closest geographic that's franchise?
Chris Rondeau
executiveThere's a few, but most of them are in development agreements.
Thomas Fitzgerald
executiveYes. And I think they're typically part of a co-op anyway. So they're advertising together. They're -- it's not necessarily a competition. But what it does do -- sorry, Simeon, we talked about this a little bit. We want to stay at the 10%. And we may sell a satellite market. We sold 6 stores in Colorado last year. We may do a tuck-in of somebody that adjoins our existing territory. We're not going to make any big, big acquisitions. We like the 10%. But it's just for that reason because sometimes there is a line there where if one franchisee or, in this case, corporate owns the whole territory, not two different people, there may be a place for another store there because you wouldn't worry about some of the factors you would if there were two people there.
Simeon Siegel
analystOkay. So 17 million is a big number. Something to be proud of. Talk about how -- you're now in unchartered territory for yourself in terms of you've been for a while because you keep growing. But you're in -- as you think about benchmarking as you think about growing, so how -- what's the approach to know how high is high from 17 million?
Chris Rondeau
executiveYes. I don't see -- I don't think we really know how high is high. And we think about -- we had 1,000 stores at the IPO. We had 2,000 in 2019. Now we're at 2,400. And even leading into COVID, we had over 13 straight years of positive comps averaging 12%, right? And the vast majority of that is member growth. And even in our oldest legacy store that's 25 or now 31 years old, it's still member growth and at towns and [ Hampshire ] that aren't growing. They're all moving South. So it just shows you that there's more propensity for people to join. The younger generations have more -- have to join a health club than they ever were before, way more than boomers of Gen X-ers. And the general awareness of wellness, especially after COVID, is just elevated. And the younger generations, they're growing up with wearables with Fitbits and apps and YouTubes. And like we were just talking out there in the '90s, you've only had mostly Fitness magazine if you were lucky, there was no place to learn to work out. We talked about how bad our form was. Interestingly enough, the High School Summer Pass. These high schools are coming in, they have the best form of the gym because they have all the technology in the world that learn how to work out. So people just...
Simeon Siegel
analystYou inspired me to...
Chris Rondeau
executiveYes. People are just growing up in a different world today that fitness isn't going away. And here, we have 2,400 stores. Our next closest competitor has got about 400. And with the marketing horsepower and the word of mouth with, 17 million members, like I said earlier, there's almost 1 in 10 millennials as a member. If you're not a member, somebody -- your roommate is. So it's so powerful that it just -- it's a flywheel effect. And the marketing budget, which last year would be about $240 million, every incremental member is fueling tomorrow's join with new marketing dollars.
Simeon Siegel
analystSo let's talk about that tangentially. So one of the Black Card opportunities or one of the Black Card benefits is bring a friend, right? So are you targeting those friends? Like how are we thinking about data? How are we thinking about the progression of what -- how much you know your customer and how you bring them in and find new customers?
Chris Rondeau
executiveYes. So the app has been then something that if you think about -- in 2019, we had just launched the app right before COVID hit, right in the summer of 2019. And at that point, it was simply find a location. It had no lot of functionality there. Now it's got all kinds of free content. It has content for the Black Card members at a premium content. It has -- you could pay your balance; you could do that. And last year, we took about $30 million of balance payments, so somebody [indiscernible] go through, didn't exist. But also it's engagement, right? So whether it's workouts, but also perks. We have a Shell gasoline perk, which is perfect for the last 12 or 18 months. I think it was 2 million gallons of gas from redeemed, I think I remember say like [$0.5] million in gas. So even if you're not using the club, you're getting value of being a member at Planet Fitness. The Crocs was a great promotion. They loved it. We sold $1 million of Crocs in 3 months. So it's how we are engaging with the member because you think about it, I mean, this industry, unless somebody happens to walk through our door, and we have no way to service them or give them any value, right? But they every single month. So this is allowing us to engage them outside the 4 walls and inside the 4 walls.
Simeon Siegel
analystAnd so how are you thinking about those add-ons, whether it's those, whether it's your digital any offering as separate revenue drivers versus more Black Card retention and the ability to raise price within Black Card? Like how do you think about that?
Chris Rondeau
executiveYes. I mean, it's -- we're always thinking it's this way to make money at it. But again, if we can just get a -- our members have stay one more month, 17 million of them, that's probably a lot more than we can make from any kind of commission.
Simeon Siegel
analystRight. Okay. Where do you think we are on the gym closure conversation, post the pandemic related gym closure? And then as you think about where you got the incremental, the 400,000, where you think about you're going to get the next? We've always talked about the on the couch. Are you seeing a share shift within users that no longer have a home to go to? Or is that...
Chris Rondeau
executiveYes. We saw early on where I think the height was about 5% of our joins are coming at former gyms, then it went to 4 and 3, then it was less than 1 thing. But I think to keep in mind with the gym closures, we're just 25% of them. So out of the 40,000 gyms, 10,000 are shut. That was made for about 30% boutiques, about 14% full-size gyms. A typical boutique has about 250 members. So -- and if they're doing yoga, we don't have yoga. They went to the one remaining yoga through the own town probably. So I think that is somebody we're not going to capture, again, very small. The average full-size clubs only got about 1,500 members store, right? So if they didn't make it, they're probably maybe 800. So yes, we got some of those. How I've always looked at it and even pre-COVID, we were going to a market we had a third club in town, 5, 10 years later, with the last guy standing. It's -- I think it's to go forward that every month you're selling an additional 25 members you just wouldn't have sold. There's no workshop, nobody else to shop, there's no other marketing out there but yours. So I think it's a go forward is where you make the benefit more so than overnight, you sign up extra 500 members.
Simeon Siegel
analystOkay. Has anything changed in terms of optimal member -- effectively capacity or size of target format?
Chris Rondeau
executiveNo. It's still 20,000 is a sweet spot, just retooling that box, meaning more of that functional training stuff, But same lock rooms. Black Card areas, we're now putting in meditation pods in them, which are manufactured by the same company who invented the HydroMassage beds. It's basically a virtual reality, medication, you can choose to invigorate, relax and you can choose. It's really cool. It's a big screen above you. [indiscernible] has scent as if you walk through the woods, scent of evergreen, the ocean, you smell the ocean. It's really a cool experience for Black Card members is in our spa. So we're always looking at ways of enticing and making that a better benefit.
Simeon Siegel
analystSo it's been in a room of just your closest friends. Anything on royalty rate and marketing requirements? Anything you want to talk about and, we've talked historically about potential flexibility?
Chris Rondeau
executiveYes. I look at that in 2 buckets and some of them cross a little bit, But we were, like I said earlier, 13 years of positive comps, I think if COVID weren't to happen, then we already would have been there, right? Now we're coming back out of this, and we're -- about 30% of our clubs are above what they were pre-COVID that's fine. And I think we'll come out of the first quarter with a much bigger piece of that for sure and at a higher rate, members per store. But we're also getting the $49 annual fee in $24.99. So the margin or revenue will grow faster than the numbers per store, which is good. So I think once our margins get back to -- and the head of way they were, that's the conversation that we had about increasing royalty. I think probably 24 months, let's say, give or take. And I think the other lever is the 9% they spend on marketing. And with the efficiencies we're seeing from the 3 ad agencies, although new, there could be a point in time where maybe you don't need to spend 9%. Like I said, it was about $240 million last year on 2,300 stores or so. Next 2,000 stores and it's $500 million is a diminishing of return. So then maybe that 9% goes to 7% or 8%, and we take 0.5 point or 2. So I think there's 2 levers there. We can think about this and call it, 24-plus months. .
Simeon Siegel
analystCool. All right. We're going to start running out of time. So I want to -- you did put equipment sales in the release. So just talk to these -- or equipment. So talk to the content you want to get there because it's been a big topic of conversation. Then I want to hear your view on your latest marketing campaign with the [ low ] [indiscernible] because I have to get that. And then I'll give you any quick floor, if there's anything you want to follow up on.
Thomas Fitzgerald
executiveYes. So on equipment, I think we -- not I think, we originally guided 170 placements for the year, took into 150, 160 because of some of these HVAC issues and whatnot and ended up right in that range. And I think we're going to continue -- if this is what you're asking, Simeon, we're going to continue to see reequips be a bigger percentage of equipment revenue just because our base is obligated to replace their cardio every 5 years and their strength every 7 years. And as we see the base of stores growing -- that have those obligations compared to new stores, that will just become a bigger part of them. It's currently about 50% or so, plus or minus, pre-COVID. It will inch its way towards 60 here over the coming years. But it's an annuity. It's an obligation that franchisees have to invest in. So we feel good about that. And we'll talk more about how we see new stores with HVAC on the Q4 call.
Simeon Siegel
analystGive you the closing word before they pull us off.
Chris Rondeau
executiveNo, I think this is my 30th year here, and I think I couldn't be more excited about the business. We're excited about what we're seeing in trends. We made it through COVID. If that didn't take us down, I don't think anything will. Our new President and COO, [ Ebrahim ], just started today is day 2. So as we build out our team and then look to build the international team, it's just great to have some great people to help the ship. So good years ahead.
Simeon Siegel
analystIt's great to watch. Congrats.
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