Playtika Holding Corp. (PLTK) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

May 30, 2024

NASDAQ US Communication Services Entertainment conference_presentation 26 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Douglas Creutz

analyst
#1

Hello. I am Doug Creutz, senior media and entertainment analyst here at TD Cowen. I'm pleased to have with me here today Craig Abrahams, Craig Abrahams, President and CFO of Playtika. Craig. Thanks for coming.

Craig Abrahams

executive
#2

Thanks for having us.

Douglas Creutz

analyst
#3

Yes. So I guess we'll start. One of the highlights of your Q1 was you grew DTC revenue 13% year-over-year and 6% quarter-over-quarter, it also helped you grow gross margin to 110 basis points quarter-over-quarter. How do you accomplish that? Is it a function of driving the new players to the DTC platform? Or are you able to convert existing players over as well?

Craig Abrahams

executive
#4

Sure. So our direct-to-consumer platform is a variety of channels that we use to allow customers to play directly on channels owned by us. I think if you look back at our history, going back to 2011, we started off on 10 different platforms around the world, and we always wanted our customers to play our games on any platform anywhere, any screen size, whether it be a tablet, a PC, mobile device. And I think we started investing 3 or 4 years ago in the direct-to-consumer channels to allow our customers to go to play with us directly. And so I think when you look at titles like Slotomania, World Series of Poker, BingoBlitz, some of the oldest titles, you'll see that we have very good penetration there. All 5 of the titles that are on direct-to-consumer today grew both sequentially and year-over-year. And I think when you look at how you convert those customers on whether it's a proprietary Android app or in a mobile web app or on the web itself, how do you have that pipeline flow such that the customer has the least amount of friction is extremely important. Just so everyone knows, when you're on Apple or Android, the customer makes a dollar payment. We pay $0.30 to Apple or Google. When it's on our own channel, we're paying $0.03 or $0.04 to the payment processors. So it's a significant advantage from a margin perspective and that allows us to invest in that direct relationship with those customers. And so we're constantly looking at ways to invest more there and grow those channels, both in terms of new customers coming to the platform as well as growing revenue with the existing customers. As we look to the road map for the rest of this year, we have both June's Journey and Solitaire Grand Harvest further launching their DTC initiatives, and we'll keep pushing there as well. So pretty exciting to us, pretty unique to us in terms of our overall penetration on direct-to-consumer. Historically, we've said that we have a 30% target in terms of where we want to get to, and we're starting to near that.

Douglas Creutz

analyst
#5

Yes. I think June's and Solitaire Grand Harvest to your third and fourth biggest titles by revenue. Like what kind of a ramp would you expect to see with those on DTC over time?

Craig Abrahams

executive
#6

Sure. Well, we haven't given guidance there, but what I would say is that they will start out more slowly in that we're looking to maximize both organic traffic on platform as well as acquire new traffic off platform. And so we're pretty conservative in how we initially ramp that. But I think if you look and track our DTC revenues over time, you'll see that, that growth has been very consistent.

Douglas Creutz

analyst
#7

Talking about Solitaire and June's, they've been extremely successful acquisitions for the company. I think revenue from both came up about 4x to 5x since you acquired them. What would you say it's been about those games in particular that have made them successful acquisitions? And how does the experience there form your M&A priorities?

Craig Abrahams

executive
#8

So just a bit of background in terms of M&A we're a little bit different than most game companies in that if you look at our top 10 titles today, 8 of them came through acquisitions, two of them were titles we developed ourselves. I think very early on, we realized that the video game industry is a hit-driven industry and developing new titles takes on risk as well as a lot of capital. What we found is that our expertise was in live operations and marketing, and we were able to find great products that we can then innovate on and leverage our monetization capabilities to grow top line. And in this business, 70% of that top line drops to the bottom line. And if in your own channel, you're looking at 96% to 97%. And so that's been our model that we've embraced going back to our first acquisition in 2012. We've done 11 acquisitions since then. I think if you look at that cohort of acquisitions kind of the '18, '19 time frame, Solitaire and June's Journey were both great acquisitions. In that they were categories that are evergreen in nature. June's Journey is a hidden object game, which is very similar to Where's Waldo, if you think of like the gameplay mechanic and going back historically. Solitaire is one of the oldest card games played by tens of millions every single day that was traditionally played as more of like a green screen Solitaire, where it's traditional Solitaire, where Solitaire Grand Harvest was innovative. It really laid out a meta game where people had a farming mechanic tied into Solitaire and there was progression. And I think what we saw is that our investment on live operations and investing in marketing there was able to grow us the #1 category leader, both in Solitaire and in an object. So today, when you look at our overall portfolio, 8 games in the top 100 in the United States, 5 of those games are #1 in the respective leadership category, including both June's and Solitaire.

Douglas Creutz

analyst
#9

More recently, you acquired Youda Games at Innplay. And how would you say those two studios fit in, in the context of the last question?

Craig Abrahams

executive
#10

So we've always taken the approach that we want to invest in categories we believe are evergreen, games that have been being played in the offline world for 50-plus years that people are going to play in the online world for the next 20 or 30 years. That's always been our approach to gaming, not taking sort of the hit-driven risk around a game mechanic itself. I think when we looked at categories like Youda. Youda is in poker, we already have the #1 game in poker, World Series of Poker. They had a larger presence in Europe, and the ability to kind of grow there as well as our help on the live op side. What we've seen there is consistent growth since we acquired it and acquired at an attractive multiplier. And when we look at Innplay, it's a different style acquisition -- well let me just take a step back, just to wrap up on Youda. That transaction with a corporate carve-out of a public company, proprietary transactions, so I think it also shows our ability to kind of find assets hidden within large companies and just carve them out. Then when you look at Innplay, it's a very different type of asset. It was a growth business in Israel. Obviously, Playtika is based in Israel. We have good relationships there, have been tracking Animals & Coins, they're a leading game for some time, and that's an opportunity for us to significantly invest in marketing and scale that game. And we had good progression there as well. So two different types. One is more value-oriented, the other one more growth oriented, and it kind of plays to our overall portfolio approach.

Douglas Creutz

analyst
#11

When you're when you're approaching a target for M&A, I mean when I think about the video game industry M&A, typically, there is an upfront price and then generally, there's an earnout based on success. Obviously, you guys have had some very big success with studios you've acquired, I would think that might give you a competitive advantage in terms of talking to acquirers and saying, "Hey, look, like you've got the potential earnout. We've had a great track record of helping studio grow, you should come with us." Does that feel like that's a competitive advantage for you?

Craig Abrahams

executive
#12

That is part of the pitch and part of what I believe that our competitive advantage is that we can help businesses grow more quickly being the part of the Playtika umbrella rather than on their own, and obviously, risk sharing through an earn-out is a way of doing that. It also helps mitigate our risk as well as maximize their upside and so that benefits both parties.

Douglas Creutz

analyst
#13

Talking about Social Casino for a minute. The performance there has been a bit challenging. You were down high single digits in '22 and '23, though the last few quarters trends seem to be getting better. Do you think that's a market segment that can get back to growth? And what will that take?

Craig Abrahams

executive
#14

So when I look at the casino fee segment, specifically the slot themed games, it's a very competitive market, but what you do see is that there are a couple of the growing and taking share from others. And so I do think there's healthy competition. If you look back at our strategy in the last few years, we pulled back on marketing in those slot themed games to invest on casual titles as we're looking to grow those titles. And so some of that, I believe, is our own strategic decision and now looking at it, obviously, we've lost share. And now we need to defend that share. I think when you look at our last quarter and talking about increasing marketing in Slotomania and trying to stabilize Slotomania as well as the other slot titles. I think on us, there's a couple of things we need to do, invest further in product be more competitive there as well as invest more in marketing and gain back some share. So I do believe that we will stabilize that business and we'll make the appropriate investments. I think as you look at those businesses, you have to look at it kind of on a year-to-year basis. Quarterly, given the root gains road maps and strategic initiatives, it does take time. But I think as you look at trending year-over-year, you will see more stability in that segment. And I think that -- while that part of the business is more mature, I mean if you look at the rest of the business and the growth potential of the rest of the business it's the benefit of having a large portfolio.

Douglas Creutz

analyst
#15

Your revenue mix is around 70% U.S. and 30% rest of the world. Do you think there's room to expand the international contribution of your current portfolio? And what are some of the things you can do to achieve that?

Craig Abrahams

executive
#16

So I think there's always room to expand internationally. If you look at the business we started with, it was mostly on casino themed games, mostly based in the U.S.. When you look at the overall business, we do focus more on Tier 1 markets. So U.S., Canada, Germany, U.K., Australia or certain -- are our top markets. And I think when we've done geo takeovers in places like Germany, in local language with local celebrities and influencers and TV campaigns, we have been successful there, and that's something that we'll continue to pursue. I think when you look at just how much of our business is domiciled in the U.S., it's hard to move the needle there. But I think we're always looking at further overseas expansion. I think Youda is another great example. You saw the bump up in the revenues as it came from Youda and their acquisition and their market share.

Douglas Creutz

analyst
#17

Is casino just more U.S. slanted in general? Or is that specific to your games?

Craig Abrahams

executive
#18

I think we're swapping games, it definitely is more U.S. centric, when you look at poker, it is more of a global game.

Douglas Creutz

analyst
#19

What are the 2 or 3 things that you are focused on to get the company back to a more consistent growth trajectory? Is it just finding M&A targets and executing? Or there other things you can do?

Craig Abrahams

executive
#20

As we mentioned earlier, M&A is a critical component in terms of levering on growth. When I look out in 2026, I think what will define our growth. We'll be looking at the acquisitions we did in '23, '24 or '25 in terms of layering on growth. So that is a key component, but also taking our core portfolio investing in marketing, driving efficiencies and expanding the portfolio through other strategic initiatives, I feel like is where our focus is. But in terms of where we're going to get the most return, it's definitely M&A. And I think when you look at our capital allocation strategy, we recently announced half of the free cash flow dedicated to M&A. So I think that's where we are differentiated for a lot of our competitors and that they're investing in new games, probably have lower margins as a result, they have a growth driver. We're taking -- we have higher margins, taking that free cash flow and investing in M&A.

Douglas Creutz

analyst
#21

How is the market for M&A right now? I mean, obviously, we've been through a period in the last couple of years where there's been a lot of layoffs in the industry. Mobile had to stretch there or it was growing, it does seem to have gotten back to your growth trajectory I think. So kind of just reported it was double-digit mobile growth in the U.S. in April. Is it an attractive marketplace are people looking for a home? Or is it getting more bubbly again?

Craig Abrahams

executive
#22

I think 2021 was obviously a very bubbly year and that was a tough year to try and get deals done. I think since IDFA was passed and companies have seen more challenges growing via marketing. It's created more opportunities for M&A. And I think that's where last year, we were successful in two transactions. I think as we look forward, I think we still see it as an interesting market. I think we're well positioned and that we have $1 billion in cash in the balance sheet. We have a $600 million revolver, and if you look at most of the other competitors that were doing acquisitions, there's since been consolidation. And so a lot of them are now out of the market. If you look at some of the undercapitalized companies that are smaller, it's not as attractive a market to raise financing. And given the significant amount of free cash flow we generate every year, that helps us continue to be in a position to continue to do transactions.

Douglas Creutz

analyst
#23

There's been a lot of discussion about regulating, you mentioned Apple and Android, whether it's through allowing third-party app stores, creating other payment mechanisms, lowering take rates. I think Microsoft just said they're looking to create their own mobile app store and there's been some discussion that Sony may be moving in that direction as well. Obviously, a significant amount of your business is already DTC, but you still are driving a lot of revenue through the mobile app stores. Is this an area where you see the potential for improved economics over the next few years?

Craig Abrahams

executive
#24

I think it's an area for upside, but it's not an area we control. So we can't spend a lot of time on it. I think as you look at what happened in Europe this year with Apple, we obviously are a beneficiary of lower take rates with platform fees dropping down to 30% and 20%. And so there is a benefit there. We'll see what happens in other jurisdictions. But again, it's not something we can control or plan for.

Douglas Creutz

analyst
#25

Do you think if take rates do come down and to a certain extent that winds up getting competed away through higher marketing spend across the industry? Obviously, if everybody's LTV suddenly jump up. right? And your ability to spend is dependent on your LTV. I worry a little bit on some of that benefit might just get passed out of the mobile ad guys.

Craig Abrahams

executive
#26

I agree with that for new companies. I think for a company like ours, where, let's say, 90% of the revenue is from older cohorts. That benefit will accrue to the operator. But you're right, for new acquisitions, who arguably have a higher LTV, therefore, you could pay higher CPI for new installs and therefore, some margin may get eroded. But for mature players, I do think it would be a clear benefit.

Douglas Creutz

analyst
#27

If we look at your sales and marketing spend, I think 6 to 7 years ago was a high teens percent of revenue, then it moved up into the low 20s, which I think was a function of you expanding your casual business and now it looks like for '24 it's probably going to be in the mid-20% range. Can you talk about what have been the drivers? I mean, I think portfolio mix is one, but any other drivers of that increase in marketing spend? And do you feel like you're going to be at a level this year that it should be sustainable over the next few years?

Craig Abrahams

executive
#28

So I think as the industry has matured, people have had to spend more in marketing and over the last 10 years, you see cost per install is consistently going up. I think people realize that mobile is the form factor of the future. It is where people will be playing games and people underestimated the value of mobile consumers in terms of their LTVs. And so I think those installed prices have gone up. I think we historically been very disciplined about our margins and have not overspent on marketing. I think as we look at our positioning today and the need to grow, we are investing more in marketing to drive that growth. And I think in a competitive market, where we have significant market share. We need to protect our leadership positions and for the new titles we have to invest in growth. So I do think there is a new normal in marketing perspective. That said, we made the adjustment this year. We took down in our guidance, the margins that we have for this year. And I think this year should be more of a model of what it looks like going forward. But again, it's hard to say what changes we have in the industry. I do think what always gives me optimism is that there's so much innovation within the ad tech industry. that, that innovation helps us through AI and machine learning to bring CPIs back down again. And so I think that would be our hope.

Douglas Creutz

analyst
#29

Is there a path to get back to that low mid-30% margin range that you had been at? Is that just mainly going to be driven by revenue growth or the other thing you could do?

Craig Abrahams

executive
#30

So I think it's also the mix of portfolio. When you have just mature titles, obviously, the margins are higher, but when you're investing in growth in new titles, it brings that margin down. And so I think as we're constantly layering in new opportunities for growth and making those investments, it offsets some of the higher margins of the more mature titles. And so I don't see I think because we're investing in growth for the future, you'll consistently see margins more at the levels we're at today. But again, we'll give guidance for next year at the end of this year.

Douglas Creutz

analyst
#31

Another area of cost pressure that I think the industry as a whole has seen was just the talent market a couple of years ago, is incredibly tight. Is that changing finding it easier to hire talented people now? And maybe you could also talk about how you're your geographic mix of studios in a lot of different areas affects your cost structure.

Craig Abrahams

executive
#32

So we have seen wage inflation over the last few years. We've augmented that through leveraging our Eastern European jurisdictions, places like Romania and Poland and Ukraine. We've been shifting employees around post conflict, and that has created some of that but we've also reduced our employee count over the last few years as we've focused on efficiency. And I think now we're at a good size and from a company employee perspective, and it's more focusing on growth from a top line perspective. And so I don't know that -- we'll continue to see the type of inflation over the last few years, but it definitely is an industry, I think, based in all technology companies.

Douglas Creutz

analyst
#33

I think you guys, when you went public, you had a long-term cash compensation plan for your employees. And I think next year, correct me if I'm wrong, will be the first year that you'll have been shifted to a fully -- an equity compensation plan, which should help your non-GAAP EBITDA margins. Can you talk about how big of an impact that could be? And then how should we also think about your formula for how much stock-based comp to give out in a given year?

Craig Abrahams

executive
#34

It's a good question. Our long-term cash compensation plan does end at the end of this year. we are amidst the planning process in terms of how much savings we'll have going into next year as a result of the restructure plan, how much is cash versus stock. It's too early to say on that. I think we'll give guidance at the end of this year for next year, how much potential savings is there. But it's clear that we're going to need to invest in our employee base to retain top people.

Douglas Creutz

analyst
#35

And then you alluded to it earlier in the last few quarters, you've instituted both a share buyback and a dividend. And can you just give a little more color about how that fits in with your total capital allocation strategy? And how you view buybacks versus dividends given -- and I'm guessing you think your stock is probably pretty undervalued in the market.

Craig Abrahams

executive
#36

We've been very thoughtful around how we come up with a framework for investing in growth as well as capital return to our shareholders. We've allocated 50% of free cash flow for M&A and 50% for capital return. We initiated a dividend 2 quarters back, which is around $150 million a year. If you look at the remaining portion, we just announced authorization for $150 million buyback. We plan to use that buyback to offset dilution from our equity awards. And so I think as we execute our M&A strategy, as we stabilize our casino themed games, as we focus on execution in the business, it allows our shareholders to receive a dividend to be paid for their patience in that process and us to execute with a total return story. So I think we're well positioned. It's a good balance of return and growth. And obviously, it's just a framework. It can go up or down either way based on opportunities.

Douglas Creutz

analyst
#37

Have you found that the dividend has opened up some conversations with investors who are value-oriented, who -- that's one of the criteria they look at.

Craig Abrahams

executive
#38

We'd hope so. I mean that's part of the intent and hopefully, with the meetings we have here today and going forward at these conferences, there will be an opportunity to bring a new shareholder base.

Douglas Creutz

analyst
#39

Happy to take questions from the audience too. Quiet? No? Maybe talk a little about you guys went through a strategic process looking at potentially being acquired or other opportunities and you ended that relatively recently. Can you talk about in hindsight sort of how that went and anything you might have learned from it?

Craig Abrahams

executive
#40

Everything there is disclosed publicly. We announced a process about 2 years ago, valuing strategic alternatives. And at the end of last year that came to an end I think as a result of that, we announced our capital allocation strategy. So I think it really gave us an opportunity to think through and communicate clearly with shareholders the strategy going forward in terms of capital return as well as M&A. I think that there's really nothing else I can comment on that process.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#41

[indiscernible] Would you acquire something -- what's your vision [indiscernible] getting better?

Craig Abrahams

executive
#42

So I think we're always looking to be #1 or #2 in every category that we're in. we're looking to create industry-leading franchises. They're going to be around 10-plus years. And so in doing that, there's significant investment in content, making it much more compelling for the customer to come back and want to play that game every day. We're doing it in terms of monetization to drive higher conversion to get more of that paying player base to be active in the game and paying within the game and to keep them sticking around for a much longer time in terms of increasing retention rates. So strategically, what we bring to the table is being very analytical and thoughtful around how you measure those things and how you execute on those things. And I think that's why we've been so successful in terms of our ability to both increase retention, increase monetization, increase engagement, build the brands on television. I think I'm sure many of you probably have seen our ads through their Bingo Blitz or Solitaire Grand Harvest or Slotomania on TV. Turning these into industry-leading franchises. And so I think that's what we bring to the table. I think when we look at the acquisition from a financial perspective, we're really thinking about how can we grow this in a way where we effectively make the multiple, low single digits or mid-single digits and make it an attractive entry multiple for us by growing revenues. And as I mentioned earlier, with 70% to 95% of the margin dropping to the bottom line, we can quickly grow EBITDA. And so I think we're very thoughtful around how do we make this a good investment for our shareholders as well as how do we make this a franchise that is going to last for the ages because there's not -- it is not helpful for us to invest in something where it grows quickly and then falls back off again. It's about something that can sustain the test of time.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#43

So on average [indiscernible] 25% more revenues next year down the road or [indiscernible] more EBITDA?

Craig Abrahams

executive
#44

I mean if you look -- if you're looking at Solitaire Grand Harvest or June's Journey, you're talking anywhere 4x to 5x in terms of the revenue growth when we acquired it, so pretty significant. Revenue growth, yes. I think if you look at the game like World Series of Poker, you're talking over probably 10x, I mean, these are big, big changes from when we acquire them over long periods of time. Obviously, those acquisitions were done many years ago. So I think when we're looking at current acquisitions, it really depends on the stage of maturity of where it is and some more mature games, it might be about much more nominal growth than that. But for growth titles, we're definitely thinking about how do we 2x or 3x this game that we're acquiring.

Douglas Creutz

analyst
#45

All right. I think we've reached time. So Craig, thank you very much for being here today.

Craig Abrahams

executive
#46

Great. Thank you, Doug.

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