ProKidney Corp. (PROK) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

September 5, 2024

NASDAQ US conference_presentation 35 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Judah Frommer

analyst
#1

Good morning, everyone. Welcome to Day 2 of the 22nd Annual Morgan Stanley Healthcare Conference. I'm Judah Frommer, one of the smid-cap biotech analyst here. We're very pleased to have Bruce Culleton from ProKidney with us this morning. Bruce, before we jump in and I'm just going to read a couple of disclosures. For important disclosures, please see the Morgan Stanley research disclosure website at www.morganstanley.com/researchdisclosures. If you have any questions, please reach out to your Morgan Stanley sales representative. So with that, maybe we can start off for those who may be less familiar with just a brief introduction of ProKidney and your REACT technology.

Bruce Culleton

executive
#2

Thanks, Judah. Thanks for having us as well. So ProKidney went public in July of 2022. We are a cell therapy-based company, headquarters at Winston-Salem and Boston. And REACT is an autologous cell product. So we take patients cells from a kidney biopsy primarily focused on patients with advanced kidney disease. We take that biopsy back to our manufacturing site in Winston-Salem. The cells are digested, goes through a series of steps where we end up with a cryopreserved product, mainly tubular epithelial cells, which we can talk about in more detail. And then eventually, that cryopreserved product gets back to the clinic. The cells are injected back into the kidney cortex by an interventional radiologist.

Judah Frommer

analyst
#3

Got it. Okay. So you mentioned a couple of the cell types that are in your lead product, Rilparencel. Can you give us a little bit more on why you chose to leverage those cells and how they contribute to kidney function?

Bruce Culleton

executive
#4

Sure. So that's a history lesson. That's before my time since I've started ProKidney, but I'll tell you the story. So early on, the early scientists involved in a different version of ProKidney, actually took cells from kidneys and tried to determine if those unfractionated cells when reinjected, when grown and reinjected if they're unfractionated, did anything different compared to different layers of cells that would come out during the suspension, part of like the manufacturing process. And they tested different layers of cells. Eventually, what they found was, there was one specific layer which turns out to be our product today, that has more bioactivity that led to at least in rodent models, less inflammation, less fibrosis and an improvement in survival in those animals. And so that was how we ended up with that selection of cells, which turns out to be primarily not completely, but primarily tubular epithelial cell.

Judah Frommer

analyst
#5

Got it. Okay. And can you walk us through how Rilparencel is manufactured and administered?

Bruce Culleton

executive
#6

So once we get the cells back into our manufacturing facility, we do digest the cells not really proprietary in what we do from a way of digesting the cells. Those cells are then undergo a series of steps where they're exposed to different stimuli, different cultures, the cells are expanded, eventually, it goes through another step where we choose out that layer of cells that's specific to our product. That same layer of cells that proved activity within the animal models. And we take those cells, purify those cells and turn it into our cryopreserved product. That product can sit for a long time. Eventually, we choose a certain part -- a certain number of doses to go back to the clinic. We have a capability of making not just 2 doses, but 3, 4, 5 in some patients. One dose goes back to the clinic. It's typically injected back into the same kidney that was biopsied in that same patient and then 3 months later, the second dose is injected back into the other clinic -- into the other kidney into the contralateral kidney.

Judah Frommer

analyst
#7

Got it. Got it. Okay. And you're focused on diabetic chronic kidney disease. Can you talk about standard of care there and unmet need in the indication and how Rilparencel can fit into that?

Bruce Culleton

executive
#8

Yes. So diabetic kidney disease is obviously a big problem. But there's also coming with big problems. There's a lot of people interested in the diabetic kidney disease space too, which we've seen real advances in treating patients over the last 5 years, maybe longer. Early on back in the late '90s, early 2000s, the RAS inhibitors with some good clinical data came to the market, made a big difference in the treatment of patients with diabetic kidney disease. Before that, if you had diabetic kidney disease and lots of protein in your urine, patients were really on a really slippery slope to dialysis. They lost about 10% of kidney function per year. The RAS inhibitors decreased that by almost half. And then more recently, we've got great data on SGLT2 inhibitors, nonsteroidal MRAs and more recently, the GLP-1s, all showing benefit within the diabetic kidney disease space. Some people have proposed 4 pillars of care for those patients. And obviously, if you're a patient today with diabetic kidney disease, this is good news, right? Most of the data from those trials comes from patients who have Stage IIIa, even some Stage II patients, diabetic kidney disease, but they show great benefit. A small number of patients in those trials do have more advanced kidney disease, IIIb and IV. That theory that we're more focused in -- the data there is more sparse, but still there seems to be some benefit with those 4 pillars across even within that subgroup. But even with that benefit, we do see a continued unmet need, patients do progress despite being on these treatments. They continue to -- some patients continue to have a decline in their kidney function. And today, for example, in the U.S. there's about 140,000 patients per year that start dialysis and about half of those patients have diabetes. So there's still a big unmet need.

Judah Frommer

analyst
#9

That makes sense. Okay. So jumping into the data a little bit. You do have a Phase III trial underway. But before we get to that -- before we could talk about some of the Phase II data you've generated to date, what gives you confidence about those studies? So maybe starting with REGEN-007, you reported some interim data back in June. Investors were fairly focused on this data set, because its design is a little closer to the Phase III. So can you recap the design of this study and your high-level takeaways from the data?

Bruce Culleton

executive
#10

Yes. So the 007 data was, as you said, the interim results we talked about in June. It's an open-label study that's in diabetic patients. There's some type 1 diabetic patients and there's type 2. So it's not just all type 2 patients. The study was designed to test two different types of interventions. So there was a Group 1, if you like, that's really aligned with our Phase III study. And those Group 1 patients had a biopsy, got injected and then 3 months later got injected into the contralateral kidney. That's the group that we're primarily interested in, because it's so similar to our Phase III program. The other group was a group of patients who got a biopsy, got injected into the kidney where the biopsy was done, and then we waited -- and we waited for more, what I say, a physiological trigger, it's really a biochemical trigger. It's really a change in their eGFR or a change in their UACR, the urine albumin creatinine ratio. And if any patients met those triggers, then they will get injected. And in retrospect, that may have sounded like a good idea to start with, but in essence, we're waiting for patients to get worse and then we inject them. And what we saw from that Group 2, and then I'll get back into the more interested Group 1. What we saw in that Group 2 was that's probably not the way to go, to let patients get worse and then inject them. And so that's definitely not the path that we're on for today. Now Group 1, we focused our results. We focused our presentations primarily on Group 1. What we saw in Group 1 was 24 subjects in total. 13 of those subjects had the follow-up that we were looking for. But in both the 13 subjects and in the 24 subjects that got at least one injection. We saw out to 18 months, we saw a change in kidney function that was more similar to what you'd see with just aging. And it was around a minus 1 decline in kidney function over the course of 18 months. Now this was an uncontrolled study. And so we tried our best to identify an external control and so we went to Dr. Tangri and his group at the University of Manitoba and Dr. Tangri and his group have published a lot on kidney failure risk equations. They have their own company. They are part of labs, they're part of how a lot of clinical groups use their formulas to actually guide their clinical decision-making. So we went and worked with Dr. Tangri. We had access to some of the SGL2 trials. And we asked them to form a synthetic control group based on data from those trials. So he matched those 13 people with about 10 patients from those trials. So a 10:1 match. And we compared to what happened to those control group patients versus the patients in 007. And over the course of 18 months, those control group patients lost about 6 mls per minute versus the minus 1.3 that we saw over the course of that same period of time. So admittedly, that was an external control post talk. We really wanted to see how this -- how our study could compare against some type of control group. But it also gave us even more strength, we felt, to say that we're on the right track with our Phase III program.

Judah Frommer

analyst
#11

Okay. Got it. So speaking of the Phase III. So I guess, specifically from that Group 1 in REGEN-007, what do you see as the read-through for the Phase III program? You mentioned a couple, but...

Bruce Culleton

executive
#12

So of those 13, again, these are small numbers. So we acknowledge some of the limitations that I think some of the analysts have brought forward too. But at least it's very directional. Of those 13, 10 of those people actually fit the criteria for a Phase III program at that time. And when we looked at those 10 people, we saw a very flat line, essentially a stabilization of kidney function over that -- over that 18 months. So we -- again, we think that, that's helpful for a Phase III program. The number -- I mean, we've been asked, and I think the relevant question is, well, did you have anyone die? Did you have anyone that ended up on dialysis? That well, we had about 100 patient years of follow-up in that group, and we had one event. I think we had a death. And so too small a number is, I mean, that's less than what we'd expect but still too small a number to actually take any strength from that observation.

Judah Frommer

analyst
#13

Okay. Got it. And I think you guys will plan to provide another update in the first half of next year on this study. So what should we expect from that data set?

Bruce Culleton

executive
#14

So we -- the study, we're planning to finish the study in the first half of next year. So we'll probably provide more final results towards the end of the first half of next year. What we'll have is obviously a more mature data set. We'll have -- instead of those 13 subjects, we'll have more longer follow-up on the 24 subjects. Most of those subjects have gotten second injection. There's one person who didn't on those 24. So we'll definitely have more maturity limited to 24 subjects and we'll be able to report out on, again, some events, but also we're primarily looking at change in eGFR over time.

Judah Frommer

analyst
#15

Okay. That makes sense. You had another Phase II study RMCL-002 that had an interesting design where patients were treated immediately -- some patients were treated immediately, others had their treatment deferred. So can you just remind us of what the rationale was behind that study and again, a recap of the data we saw from there?

Bruce Culleton

executive
#16

Yes. So just another history lesson. That study started in 2016.

Judah Frommer

analyst
#17

Yes, right.

Bruce Culleton

executive
#18

Most of the patients were -- the majority of the data points, I should say, were collected during the pandemic, which created its own challenge. In 2016, the company was private. It was a small company, and they were really just building some of their clinical operations, functions and their manufacturing facility was primarily like an R&D facility at that point in time. So that was 2016. They were really, in my mind, two control groups in that study. One was initially at the beginning of the study. We think of this as Group 1 and Group 2. Group 1 was the active treatment group, they received rilparencel, what we call REACT today. They received rilparencel as soon as the product was available. And Group 2 was the deferred group. They -- if they were a randomized to Group 2, then they didn't receive rilparencel till after 12 months. And during that 12 months, they continue to receive what was typical standard of care at that point in time. Now the other control group that I just mentioned was not just that randomized control group at the beginning of the study, but it was also almost like an embedded control group of a pre-group and a post group. And so the pre-group was the standard of care who then after 12 months, got injected with rilparencel and then we're able to follow that group over a period of time. Now the point that you just made, the patients who were treated initially with rilparencel in Group 1 compared to those patients who got treated in the delay group, they had very different responses from an eGFR perspective. And arguably, the first group, the active group, had a minimal, I'd say, minimal positive impact -- positive effective of rilparencel. But what we saw with the Group 2 after they got treated they went from a decline of minus 2 to minus 4 to really a flattening out and very similar to what we saw in the other Phase II study. The question, obviously, is what happened to those patients when they were initially treated. And I don't have a smoking gun that I could point to, but I do have some things that as we look into the data, which provides some insight. The first is that if we look at the data, we recognize that patients who have more than 5 grams of protein in the urine, we measured UACR in the Study 2, but more than 5,000 grams -- milligrams per gram per day of albuminuria. Those patients just like went like that. And just by chance, there were more patients in those active treated group than in the other group. So that was just by chance. But there really was no benefit seen. Those patients just continue to bottom out. And that's typically what you see clinically. I mean, I've treated a lot of patients with diabetic kidney disease. And unfortunately, you see those patients who have lots of protein in your urine, and there's very little that you can do. You could throw everything at them, and there's -- they just seem to be on that slippery slope to dialysis. So that was one, there was an imbalance in the albuminuria in the Group. The other thing was just the way the study was designed was that for the first 12 months, first 18 months, more patients in the active group obviously got injected first. So -- and that's just the design of the study. And just to make it clear, if you're a randomized to, if you were a patient 1 in the study, and you're randomized to the deferred group, you didn't get rilparencel until 12 months later. Whereas if you were in the active group, you got rilparencel right away. And that apply it for patient #2 and patient #3 and patient #4. It wasn't a randomization error, it was really just the design of the study. Now my hypothesis here, and I mean there's lots of parts of medicine where we could say that the supplies that this was -- there was a lot of learning that happened early in the study, learning in how you inject the cells and the patients learning at the interventional radiology side, small company didn't have all the same sort of capabilities, resources that bigger companies have. So I think there was all a learning curve at that point too. That probably impacted the cell.

Judah Frommer

analyst
#19

That makes sense. And correct me if I'm wrong, but I think based on the subgroup data, you did make a protocol amendment for your Phase III PROACT 1. So can you walk us through that?

Bruce Culleton

executive
#20

We did. So we looked at the most severe patients in that study. And so those most severe patients were Stage 4 CKD meaning their eGFR was less than 30 and Class A3 albuminuria, meaning they had over 300 milligrams per gram, less than 5,000 milligrams, so in between 300 milligrams and 5,000 milligrams. So really high-risk patients typically progress -- still progress pretty fast. Typically, you're talking to these patients about you need to start thinking about dialysis and what type of dialysis do you want? Do you have any relatives who can give you a kidney. Those are the types of discussions you start having with those patients. What we saw in those patients, those that treated with rilparencel seem to stabilize. Those that didn't get rilparencel continued to have that decline of about minus 6 per 12 months. So we use that data to inform our Phase III PROACT 1 trial, amended that trial and then started to activate sites under that amended protocol in May of this past year.

Judah Frommer

analyst
#21

Got it. Okay. And -- do you have -- speaking of your hypothesis, do you have any thoughts as to why the later-stage patients might respond better than earlier stage?

Bruce Culleton

executive
#22

So I actually think that patients across all different stages probably respond, but I think it's easier for us to detect it in Stage IV patients, just because of where their kidney function is. And theoretically, I mean, I guess it's not theoretically, but also they have lower nephron mass. And so if we're actually providing some cells that decrease inflammation, repair other cells, for example, then we may be able to detect that difference a little bit easier in patients who have eGFR less than 30.

Judah Frommer

analyst
#23

Okay. Okay. And just to round out the Phase II conversation. Can you just speak to safety and tolerability, the profile that's been generated from PROACT and what you've seen across the clinical programs? And how are clinicians and patients anecdotally responded to you?

Bruce Culleton

executive
#24

So we've had -- we've done well over 100 injections at this point in time. What we've seen from a safety and tolerability perspective is the biopsy, we do see occasional hematoma from the kidney biopsy. Some patients end up having some blood in the urine. What we're seeing based on historical biopsy reports and also some more recent biopsy reports through a large registry that's being conducted by the NIH is that our tolerability or safety is very much in line of what you'd expect to see in the kidney biopsy. Now we're also injecting kidneys with a smaller needle, but what we've had 1 or 2 hematomas from that, too. But again, lower than the biopsy rate and from a tolerability perspective, patients tolerate it well and no long-term side effects from that. We've had no serious adverse events from rilparencel itself. So we feel pretty comfortable with the safety and tolerability. On how patients and nephrologists are responding, well, from a patient perspective, a lot of patients that the site investigators have talked to have been very happy around what's happened. Some patients have been very happy around what's happened from their kidney function perspective. I think from a discussion point perspective, what the PI -- some PIs feel works well for me, can you join -- are you willing to join the study. The study is available this is the way the study is designed, et cetera. What seems to work well with some investigators is that they say, would you -- you're already on therapy. You've already progressed. There's no other options for you other than dialysis. And gaining an injection in each of your kidneys sounds like a lot, but that's very different than getting a needle in your arm 3 times per week. And so in some ways, it really just gives some patients an option when they see that they're really headed towards dialysis.

Judah Frommer

analyst
#25

Okay. Great. So let's jump into kind of Phase III. And you did have two Phase III studies planned as of a couple of weeks ago. But you announced earlier this week the discontinuation of the ex U.S. study. So can you elaborate on that decision and if you're thinking about the development path for rilparencel changed?

Bruce Culleton

executive
#26

So yes, I mean, that was big news for us this week. So we announced this on Tuesday -- just in time for this.

Judah Frommer

analyst
#27

Exactly.

Bruce Culleton

executive
#28

So we announced it on Tuesday that we were stopping one of our Phase III programs, one of our Phase III studies. And we're continuing to PROACT 1 in the U.S. And I'll just give you the background to that. And I think for the listeners, too, just so that everyone gets a better understanding of why we did that and also why it's really important. So in November of last year, we had a change in our leadership. I came in as CEO. We had -- we hired some great people over the next few months to be part of the leadership team as well. But in November of that year, November of last year, we decided to stop our manufacturing. We put it on pause. And as a result of putting that on pause, we put our clinical studies on pause. And the reason why we put the manufacturing pause was we had an audit report from a qualified person in the EU, that said, you need to fix some of the manufacturing deficiencies in order for you to ship product to Europe. Now this was probably some people within the company saw this coming. We were already working on a lot of things to improve our quality management systems. That was one big thing. That was one big component of it. There's nothing wrong with the actual processing of cells per se. And at no point in time did we release any product where we said we shouldn't have released that product under any standards that exist today. This is more around the systems that we had in place to ensure compliance with good manufacturing process. We said, look, the only way to really fix this is to put everything on pause. Let's just clean it up. Let's just get all our systems in place, let's validate all our computer, all our computer systems and let's get our quality systems compliant to what the standards are today. It also helps us for commercialization to have this done. So we don't have to rush at some point in the future as well. So we sort of looked at what we had to do, and it was a daunting task, to be honest. It was very daunting, but the teams did a great job. They delivered months ahead of time. And we ended up self-certifying if you like, our ability to manufacture ourselves in May. We had a report back from our EP auditor in June and a signed report in July saying that we're ready to go. So we're actually really happy with the progress that we made. But because we had bigger things, if you like, in mind, we had fixer manufacturing, our systems in place, and we're amending one of our protocols. We -- there was this nagging question I think some of us had and it was around like why are we doing two studies. We've got an RMAT. We received an RMAT from the FDA in October of 2021. And so the question that we had was, well, why aren't we using that RMAT to the best of our -- why aren't we leveraging that to the best of our capabilities. And so we did an internal review of all the engagements we've had with the FDA. And we have some leaders on the team who are part of that FDA discussion in March of 2022 when we align on the regulatory pathway with the FDA. And there's a meeting in March of '22. And there was something else that was going on that was critical for the company at that time. And the company was getting to set to go public. So the company went public in July of 2022. So all the work being required to go public, finalizing the investors, finalizing the pipe, going through a leaseback, all that was going on around that time in March 2022. And the team that went to the FDA felt it was most important to leave that meeting with a agreed upon regulatory pathway, which I understand where they were coming from. So they didn't push any buttons. And they left that meeting with a more traditional agreement on what that regulatory pathway looks like. Certainly not something that you'd expect if you have RMAT and they left the meeting with essentially an agreement on two randomized controlled trials. The other thing that's happened since then was there was a leadership change in that review group at the FDA. The new leaders also more aligned with the overall Head of CBER, Peter Marks, and I don't need to get into any details, but I think anyone that follows Peter and a lot of the products that they approve in CBER, they're more open, they're more flexible in how they look at study design and how they look at data. And I'd say, when we went through this internal review, asked the question, why are we doing two studies. We not only did this internal review, but we reached out to experts and people that have been through this process at the FDA, people that have worked at the FDA on other connections that were very important for us. And we eventually ended up concluding that there's no good reason for us to be doing that second study. So we're continuing down the path to PROACT 1. We're stopping PROACT 2. And in doing so, we saved about $150 million, $275 million. We extend our runway significantly, which gets us closer -- much closer to a top line readout from PROACT 1.

Judah Frommer

analyst
#29

Got it. Okay. That's a good update. So what has been your latest communication with FDA? Do you expect more formal feedback near term? And how does the RMAT designation factor into those conversations?

Bruce Culleton

executive
#30

So the RMAT certainly allows us to have more engagements with the FDA on a regular basis. Like quite frankly, I don't think we've been doing enough of that. So we do have some engagements planned this year and next year. Not only do we have to engage around questions, well, do we need confirmatory evidence, do we need to start planning around what the confirmatory evidence might be depending upon what the data looks like from PROACT 1. And like any cell and gene therapy manufacturer, because that's -- we're manufacturing our own product. We also have to work with the FDA on CMC. And so we think we're actually in a really good spot, but we need to formalize where we are and what we need to do with the FDA as well.

Judah Frommer

analyst
#31

Okay. Got it. And maybe we could spend a minute just on the endpoint in PROACT 1, specifically the composite nature of it and how your Phase II eGFR results influence your thinking on the Phase III endpoint. So maybe if we -- I could just bunch a couple of questions together. How do you think this will affect readout, but also how do you think payers, clinicians, patients are going to see the trial?

Bruce Culleton

executive
#32

Thanks Judah. So our endpoints are the standard end points for what other companies have done in the diabetic kidney disease space. And our trial design is a time to event study. And the endpoint is an eGFR less than 15, time to an eGFR less than 15, time to dialysis or time to renal or cardiovascular death. We should add time to transplant too. So it's more of that typical approach from an endpoint perspective. We think we're in a better shape to achieve more of those endpoints with the reduced more targeted patient population now that we have in our amended protocol. We definitely have confidence around what our end point rate is expected to be. Although I will say there is some variability in the literature, a even more recent data would suggest that we're being more on the conservative side with regards to that event rate. But we'll know, obviously, once we start getting a lot more patients in the study, and we'll see what the event -- what the exact event rate is. We think our Phase II data -- our Phase II data didn't have a lot of events. This is the small numbers that we had. But if we look at the event rate in our Phase II data, and we'll look at some of the treatments that we've done in our Phase II data, and we haven't published this. We don't have any intend to publish this -- publishing this, but we do see some signs that we're definitely on track for what our projections are in our Phase III program. So we feel confident where we are in not just the event rate, but also the effect size that we're estimating and we're assuming a hazard ratio of 0.6.

Judah Frommer

analyst
#33

Okay. Okay. Great. So what would, in your mind, I guess, given what you know currently seemed like a good outcome in PROACT 1 for you guys? And how are you thinking about disease stabilization and durability in the trial?

Bruce Culleton

executive
#34

Well, I mean, a good outcome for PROACT 1 would obviously be statistical significant up in the top line readout, right? So -- and it has to be safe. right? Even if we have a product that works and it's not safe and that creates some challenges for us, too. But all indications are that it's safe and tolerable at least at this point in time. So top line, we'd expect a statistical significant readout. We would like to see a directional improvement on time to dialysis in particular. And I think that plays an important role in how payers look at data specifically in this population.

Judah Frommer

analyst
#35

Right.

Bruce Culleton

executive
#36

And I was saying to you earlier before we got on stage, that I had worked at CVS and was there during the Aetna acquisition and worked closely with the payers after the acquisition. So I sort of had that inside look into how their medical economics group looks at kidney disease. And some of it's surprising. Some of it was really surprising to me, and some of it wasn't, but obviously, dialysis is a big issue for them. But they've managed to curb that issue by agreements that we have with large dialysis providers. But Stage 4 chronic kidney disease is the issue. That's their pain point. Their costs are higher than the premiums and across especially within the commercial space, but across all their lines of business. That's a pain point for them. And so if we could demonstrate that we -- not just our primary composite endpoint, but also a signal that we're seeing a prevention of patients or delay of patients going on dialysis, that's going to be meaningful.

Judah Frommer

analyst
#37

Okay. All right. I think we are out of time, but that's a good place to wrap up. So thank you again for joining us.

Bruce Culleton

executive
#38

Okay. Thanks, Judah. Thanks.

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