Prologis, Inc. (PLD) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
November 12, 2020
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Vikram Malhotra
analystThank you, everyone, for joining our next panel at our Life After COVID conference here at Morgan Stanley. My name is Vikram Malhotra. I'm one of the REIT analysts in the U.S., and amongst other sectors, I cover industrial. We're very excited to have Prologis with us today to talk about life after COVID and what the industrial landscape may hold. And specifically, we have Gary Anderson, the COO of Prologis, who's been there many years and held many -- worn many different hats, a lot of experience in all parts of the business. And we're very excited to have you. Thank you so much, Gary, for joining us today.
Gary Anderson
executiveVikram, great to be here. Thanks for the invitation, and I'm looking forward to our conversation. I also look forward to the time that we can see each other live and in person, but we'll do that another day.
Vikram Malhotra
analystDefinitely. Definitely. Before I begin, let me just read some quick disclosures. So please note that this webcast is for Morgan Stanley clients and appropriate Morgan Stanley employees only. The webcast is not for members of the press. And if you are a member of the press, please disconnect and reach out separately. For important disclosures, please see the Morgan Stanley research disclosure website. And if you have any questions, please reach out to your Morgan Stanley sales rep. And I should mention at the start, we'd love to make this somewhat of a virtual dialogue with our clients and listeners on the webcast. So if you do have questions as you hear comments, feel free to type them in the browser or you can e-mail them to me at my first name dot last name @morganstanley.com. I like to always start out by introducing Prologis as the logistics firm -- or the largest logistics firm in the globe that has almost a 2.5% of global GDP flowing through its warehouses every year. And so it sees a lot of different data points. It has a lot of different perspectives and can certainly look at things from a forward perspective because it has a lot of leading indicators. So with that, as I mentioned, I'm very excited to have Gary on.
Vikram Malhotra
analystLet me start sort of at a very high level, something that Prologis has been talking about and maybe transforming itself, essentially making a big pivot to being more customer-centric. Can you talk to us about what that means?
Gary Anderson
executiveYes. It's a big topic for us, and it's a topic we've really spent the last couple of years on, customer centricity, and it's core and central, I think, to all that we do. And I think what it really means for us is showing up differently. I think it means being more than a great real estate company. You've sort of described us as a real estate company. I think we are a great real estate company, but I think that means creating value beyond the real estate, first, for our customers and ultimately and, ultimately, for shareholders. And if you think about the way that the landlord and tenant relationship works in our sector, it's pretty simple, I guess. It starts and ends with a lease negotiation typically, right? That lease negotiation typically ends up with a 5-year lease-up market. And then landlord and tenant forget about one another for about 4.5 years. And then near the -- near lease expiration, they start talking once again simply about that lease. And what we're trying to do is completely change that process. And we've spent really the last year reshaping our field organization to that end. So Vikram, we've gone from what I would describe as a sort of highly skilled but siloed group of professionals in our field organization focused individually on things like leasing and construction and property management and maintenance, and we have been working to convert them into an army of customer experience teams. And the job of those customer experience teams is really to intimately understand our customers' businesses, their pain points and then bring Prologis resources to bear on solving those pain points. And in the end, what we're trying to do really is create a significantly better customer experience, simplify their lives, solve their pain points and create stickiness with those customers so they come back to us over and over and over again, not only for great real estate but also for these incremental products and services that we're providing them.
Vikram Malhotra
analystAnd what's the opportunity in the sense of services and strategies? Can you describe that in a bit more detail? And has that shifted in a post-COVID world?
Gary Anderson
executiveYes. So look, the real opportunity, if you take it from the biggest -- from a big-picture standpoint is to build a moat. That's what we're trying to do. We're trying to build a very wide and very deep moat around the entirety of our business that, our competitive set, few you could replicate. You said it best. I mean we're already at scale today, and we're at critical mass. We've got $140 billion in assets, an A-rated balance sheet, 1 billion square foot in real estate now and, as you said, 2.5% of the world's GDP going through that platform. But for the first time, in my 26-year history at the company, we are actually starting to take advantage of that scale. And we're using it not only to our advantage but to the customer's advantage. So in its simplest terms, what we started to do is we started to think about why are we only thinking about the $6 per square foot that our customers spend on rent, right? That $6 per square foot represents about 4.5% of their total supply chain costs. So when you start thinking about that, why don't we think about helping them with the balance of their $126 per square foot spend. So -- and that's exactly what we started to do. So Vikram, we started with kind of those things that are closest to the real estate, right, closest to logistics real estate. So we started procuring racking and forklifts and material handling systems. We've got moving services, janitorial and pest control. All of those things are pretty simple to do. And now what we're doing is we are moving up the chain to sort of those more complex solutions that will greater resonate with our larger customers: automation, labor solutions, transportation solutions, data and IoT. And if you remember a year ago, we were at our Investor Forum in November. And we laid out a public statement that we're going to generate, call it, $150 million in procurement savings, $150 million in sort of essentials revenues over the next few years, so $300 million. And what I would tell you is that we are ahead on procurement, which makes sense. It's within our [ gift of control ]. We're a little bit behind on essentials. But I would tell you that everything is trending in the right direction. And I am more convicted now about this business than I ever have been. Because if we do this correctly, we can both delight our customers and squeeze more incremental revenue out of every square foot of logistics real estate than anybody on the planet and obviously can create competitive advantage -- sustainable competitive advantage. So that's what we're up to. That's what we're trying to do. And I don't think many will follow because it takes scale, for one, to do this. It takes a balance sheet to invest in innovation, and then it takes this -- the wherewithal to bring this innovation to life, and we're doing all those things. So I think we're on our way to building that moat.
Vikram Malhotra
analystThat makes sense. And it's certainly interesting that you can so-called expand the pie by offering these services and become even more entrenched with your customers by offering these extra services. But you touched upon kind of a relevant factor: real estate is only 5% of the supply chain in terms of cost. There's a whole set of other costs on labor and logistics. Can you talk about maybe other parts the supply chain that you think will change in a post-COVID world? And how may it change?
Gary Anderson
executiveSo when you say other parts of the supply chain, you mean locationally? So for example, e-commerce penetration has accelerated. It's driven this accelerated demand, certainly pre COVID, and that demand is continuing post COVID. But if you're really talking about change, where that change is going to happen, where that innovation is going to happen, I think it's going to happen in the urban core. That's where it's happening today. Companies are experimenting with primarily last-mile and Last Touch delivery models that are trying to figure out how to meet that new demand. And there are hundreds of these models that are being tested right now. So for me, with respect to that Last Touch and that last mile, it's hard to say which of those models are going to ultimately be successful. What is clear to me and what's clear to us is that we need to continue to focus on the consumption end of the supply chain, right? The consumption end of the supply chain doesn't move, and we're focused on sort of those high population density centers with high disposable income. And we've been doing that for a decade now, as you know, so it sort of reshaped our platform, and we continue to focus there. So no meaningful strategic change from that standpoint, but maybe some change around the margins in terms of where we're making our investments and how we're making those.
Vikram Malhotra
analystYes. And just to -- maybe just to be clear and expand. We -- obviously, you focus on real estate. You've now started getting more in entrenched with the customer. But I guess what I was also trying to get a sense of is, how could -- maybe the labor side or the transportation side, other parts of the supply chain, how could they change in a way that maybe creates more room for you to charge rent, for example?
Gary Anderson
executiveYes. So again, at 4.5% of the total supply chain cost, $6 is nothing, right? So as you move closer to the customer, the interplay is always on sort of those 3 categories that you mentioned. It's labor transportation. It's inventory cost and inventory carry, and then it's the $6 in rent. And those dynamics are always in place. So look, I think that there's a whole host of things longer term in the transportation sector that will come to bear on this industry. And again, transportation is probably 45% of total supply chain costs. So we're working on things around how do you move things in drop lots. How do you move things within the bounds of our own facilities? The other thing that's obviously happening is EV and automation, right? With EV, you can move things quietly. So you can move them at night, right, even in densely populated locations. With automation, you can move things further. So there are definitely going to be some locational impacts with respect to those changes with transportation. But the net of it is, and we're already seeing it today, the growth in rents in urban core, right, our Last Touch or our last-mile facilities, is growing at a much faster rate than anywhere else. And that's because the trade-off is happening in our favor with respect to rent taking a higher percentage of total logistics costs in the urban core. The labor -- look, labor is a huge problem. I mean -- so we have customer advisory board meetings every year and most quarters -- twice a year, actually, with the largest customers on the planet. And their first, second and third priority is labor. So if you're not familiar with what we're doing, we have put together something called the Community Workforce Initiative. And the realization that we had is that when we make an investment -- a building investment, in any community, we're making a 50-year commitment. We're going to own that building for 50 years. We're a long-term holder. And that's a much longer commitment than a customer makes for a 5-year lease arrangement, right? So we've realized that it's incumbent upon us to begin to solve this labor problem. Otherwise, the building will certainly lose value. So we've set up this Community Workforce Initiative. We're working with communities and nonprofits. And our intent is to train 20,000 people in those markets to be a qualified logistics workforce, 25,000 by 2025. So that's one thing that we're doing. I guess the other thing that we're doing is we've created a partnership with a group called WorkStep, and this is one of our venture company investments. And that company basically matches qualified long-term talent -- logistics talent to our customers. And the reality is there's a lot of work to be done here because the ecosystem that has to be built for talent includes sort of full-time staffing, which is what WorkStep does. It also has to include part-time and seasonal staffing, which WorkStep doesn't do today. So all of that needs to be -- it's sort of that we're working on. It's a huge opportunity because, again, labor represents about 35% of total supply chain costs. So if you converted it to dollars per square foot relative to our fixed [ spots ], it's $42 a foot. So there's a huge opportunity there for us to help customers solve those pain points. So that's where we're headed.
Vikram Malhotra
analystThat definitely makes sense. And I remember reading, I think, it was XPO or one of the other 3PLs talking about it wasn't necessarily the supply of real estate that caused them to expand or not expand in a market. Sometimes, it's just difficulty in finding labor and their view on finding labor in the next 12 months. So labor is definitely a key issue like you hit upon. Maybe just to expand a little bit on these additional services that go around the lease and the asset itself, can you maybe quantify a little bit about the revenue opportunity? But can you talk more specifically about how you measure the return of these investments and how you may measure them over time in terms of either IRRs or return on investment? How do you see kind of the revenue impact and eventually that translating into returns?
Gary Anderson
executiveWell, again, I mean, we view -- as we've said, over a 3-year period or so, we expect to generate this $300 million that we talked about. So today, I would tell you that we're not kind of underwriting real estate any differently than we did before. And I don't think that will change. I think we'll always have sort of that fundamental, basic, standard and stringent underwriting for the real estate component. But what we are doing now, and I think this is what you were getting at, is we're beginning to collect data where we can actually forecast incremental revenues based on that next square foot of real estate leased, right? So we've just completed an exercise with our field teams and our core sort of centralized essentials teams in building a business plan for 2021 for essentials, and it was a ground-up plan. And it's kind of as you were describing. We based it on vacancies, on lease expirations, schedules, on our customer segmentation data. And we've kind of started to build a forecast just like we do our real estate forecast in conjunction with our forecast -- in conjunction with our real estate teams. So look, it's still early days there. The data is still coming in. We're still building that business and getting smart about it. We've got a 25-year history in forecasting -- or a 30-year history in forecasting real estate. We've got a 24-month history in forecasting this other stuff, so it's going to take us a little bit of time. But I do think, ultimately, we'll be thinking about it as you were describing. We'll clearly be able to project incremental revenues on a per square foot basis. We will clearly look at building-level or unit-level IRRs, incremental IRRs or incremental margin, however you want to think about it, but we're not there yet. But we will get...
Vikram Malhotra
analystThat's good then. That makes sense.
Gary Anderson
executiveI'm highly convinced that we will get there. We're already starting to budget and forecast that way.
Vikram Malhotra
analystThat's fascinating.
Gary Anderson
executiveWe're just not very good at it yet.
Vikram Malhotra
analystWell, I'm sure with the data you have, the curve will be fairly steep. I want to weave in a question that just came in and ties to my next question. Really about the box and how it may have changed kind of post COVID. Can you -- so can you describe maybe the actions you took during COVID? And we're still going through a pretty steep curve. In terms of making the box and the warehouse, the properties more safe for people to work in, any specific investments you may have made? And what changes could be permanent from an operational side to -- for health safety?
Gary Anderson
executiveLook, I mean we have started developing WELL Building and -- to a WELL Building Standard in some locations and carbon-neutral buildings. And we're taking those learnings right now and we're applying them to our existing offer and, ultimately, to the stack of abilities that we're developing. So we're always trying to sort of push the envelope in that regard. And that's sort of a big-picture sort the way. But right from the start of the pandemic -- and again, so relative to the functionality of the building, I'm not sure that a ton has changed. I think, again, in the urban core, I think that you can get away with a much different type of building. You don't need clear heights. You don't need dock-high buildings. You don't need huge truck courts. You need drop lots, and those sorts of things. So they're being utilized a little bit differently. So from that type of standpoint, in terms of how the building is being used functionally, I don't think it changes a ton. Obviously, when EV comes into play, you'll have those implications. But with respect to safety, I mean, I think the pandemic has definitely made us think about things differently. And the pandemic's made us think about how we support our customers differently, right, not only how we sort of build the buildings differently. But when the pandemic first hit, we were about to launch what we were calling prologisessentials.com, and it was the marketplace. It was this place where people could go and actually buy our products and services online. And when the pandemic hit, our field teams came to us and said that's not what our customers need right now. What they need is sort of a different type of support. So based on that feedback, we pivoted, and we started moving towards a customer resource center because this is what the small- to medium-sized customers need. So we stood up this customer resource center, and we gave them real-time information at that time on the CDC. We gave them real-time information about how you access the PPP program. We negotiated discounts, and this gets to one of your points, on deep cleaning services, which at that time were almost impossible to procure, HEPA filters. All of those sorts of things are now coming on to our platform and coming on to our marketplace. But it's a process because you really have to go through the process of not only vending the product but also vending -- vetting the vendor before you bring them into your platform. So we've got a whole procurement organization that's doing that. But our plan is to fully support our customers pre COVID and post COVID, and we're making those changes to do that.
Vikram Malhotra
analystThat makes sense. And I've just got another question related to what you've said on ESG, but I'll skip that for a minute. And we'll talk about something you alluded to, which is really how consumer behavior had begun to change or was changing pre pandemic for the last 5 years where we saw e-commerce penetration slowly inching up. And then during COVID, we saw a spurt in penetration in certain categories. Like, grocery is a clear example. But we also saw a lot of your tenants really changing supply chains to become faster, right, speed to market. So I'm wondering, in a post-COVID world, can you talk about some sectors where we might just continue to see elevated e-commerce penetration? And do you think your tenants will now go back to achieving faster delivery times and reshaping their supply chain maybe even faster than they did before?
Gary Anderson
executiveYes. So that's a great question. Let me break it into 2 pieces, so the consumer segment and then maybe the impacts on supply chain. So with respect to the consumer, I think you nailed it. I expect e-commerce penetration post COVID to continue at a more normalized growth rate, right? There was an accelerated growth rate, right, at the start of COVID and really till today. And then post-COVID, I expect it to be at a normalized rate but at a -- off of a higher base, right, because of the acceleration that occurred during COVID. I don't think that much has changed with respect to the consumer set other than the fact that you've got a more diverse set of e-commerce consumers that have discovered the benefit of online shopping and delivery. My mother would be an example, right, someone who didn't use it pre COVID to completely is all-in post COVID. When you're thinking about the sectors, the sectors that were super hot were apparel and pharmaceuticals. The sectors that are growing now exponentially, I think, are pharmaceuticals and grocery with people going into the grocery side of things. From a supply chain standpoint, there is a lot going on right now. E-commerce itself is a tailwind. It always was. I think one of the statistics that we tout is that for every 100 basis points of shift from bricks and mortar to e-commerce in the U.S., 46 million square feet of net demand is created, okay? So that's one tailwind that we're talking about. On top of that tailwind, I think the pandemic absolutely broke supply chains, certain supply chains. And I think those supply chains are only now recovering. And I think as a result of that, you are seeing retailers think differently about safety stock, right? They were running inventories down to razor-thin levels, and as a result, they lost sales, there's no question, when the pandemic hit. So I think safety stock is going to account for 5% to 10%. And then I think that you're going to see some of those companies create secondary supply chains, almost shadow supply chains, at least for some products. Pharmaceuticals, I would think for sure. I would think defense-related products, for sure. So look, our research team's done some studies on this. They believe that the current situation is going to create 400 million square feet of new demand, 150 million or 200 million of which will hit over the next 2 to 3 years. So the tailwinds for our sector as a result of all that's happening there are tremendously positive.
Vikram Malhotra
analystThat makes sense. It reminds me, more than a decade ago, we used to talk about redundancy in the tech world and in Internet and stuff like that. And now there seems to be the need for redundancy in certain supply chains, as you allude to it, which would create more demand. In addition to sort of the consumer behavior, can you maybe talk about has COVID created maybe new markets or maybe you think about new markets to either enter or expand into, think a little differently about urban infill versus suburban markets. We've heard one of your tenants, Amazon, is now looking to open up 1,000 smaller boxes in really core urban locations. How do you think differently? Or has COVID made you think differently about these dynamics?
Gary Anderson
executiveSo I actually don't think that it's made us think much differently about it because, I think, for the past 10 years, we've already been focused on urban. We've been disproportionately allocating our capital to those markets. Now as I said, I mean, the type of building that will work in the urban core today is still being defined, right? It can be a smaller building. It can be a building that will accommodate vans and all types of different delivery models. So our focus continues to be in the urban core, and I don't think that's going to change. The thing that I have heard is some people talking about this shift from urban to suburban markets. In my view, the demand that we're seeing is broad-based, and it's helping each of those markets. But if you are waiting for a shift or expecting a big shift in population from urban to suburban, I wouldn't hold my breath for that. That change will take a long, long, long time. I think I saw in the news that there were 110,000 people or something like that -- I'm not sure if that's a net number -- but 110,000 people that moved out of New York City this year. And that's a big thing. While at 110,000 people a year, it will take decades to move the needle on New York City. So I think the focus on urban core is going to continue. It certainly is for us. So again, disproportionately allocating our capital to high population density, high disposable income locations.
Vikram Malhotra
analystThat makes sense. I'll weave in a question sort of related in terms of not new markets but perhaps new product that may be viewed as competitive supply or alternative supply. Can you talk about 2 things, specifically, multistory warehouses and then retail conversion, whether it's strip centers or malls and/or just the retailers using their retail footprints at least partly for logistics?
Gary Anderson
executiveYes. So 2 big topics. I mean the multistory is going to happen, and it is going to happen in the urban core. It's taking time. You know as well as I do that we've been in multistory for decades in Japan and China and are now bringing it to the U.S. and Europe. And that's going to continue. There's no question in my mind. We're buying land today and assembling land to that end. So that business will continue to grow. How big will it be? I don't know because there are only a handful of markets where the economics for that will work. And it's the big cities that you would think about generally: It's Tokyo. It's Paris. It's San Francisco, Chicago, the big markets, New York. With respect to retail conversion, we've done a lot of work on this, and we've tried to figure this out a lot. It's going to be tough. It's not going to be a huge needle mover for us. When we look at it in aggregate in terms of competitive space, in aggregate, it might be 100 million feet (sic) [ square feet ] or a couple of hundred million feet. In aggregate, there's 250 million square feet in the U.S. alone that's developed each and every year. So it gets a lot of headlines, but I don't see it having a meaningful impact on the way that we operate our business from a competitive standpoint.
Vikram Malhotra
analystThat makes sense. I know we probably have a minute left, so let me ask a question that I get from a lot of investors, and I know it's popped up on my screen as well. Many may view -- many investors may view Prologis as fully valued or maybe the industrial sector as somewhat richly valued. Certainly, the private side has continued to get more and more rich to some extent with lower cap rates. What parts of the business today and maybe in the near future do you see being underappreciated by investors? Are they not being accurately valued or the growth not being thought about correctly? Said another way, what do you think the market could be surprised positively about when they are at the end of '21 and look back and say, "Boy, we didn't think that would happen?"
Gary Anderson
executiveWell, look, I think there's a lot there. Let me start with the businesses today that we think are undervalued, and then I'll talk about the next one. So we've been pretty vocal, this is no surprise, over the years that both our development business and our investment management business have been undervalued. And we believe that today. So the development business today, we have a development track record that is 20-years long. And that track record is fully documented. And if you took that business out of Prologis and did it as a stand-alone business, we think you'd be -- we'd be getting 2.5x book, something like that. You should probably look at your valuation and see what it says, but I bet it's about 2.5x book. And our investment management business, we have retooled over the course of the last decade since the merger. And that business is tremendously valuable. And I think the thing that people don't really get or understand is that 90% of the funds that we have are structured as long-life or infinite-life vehicles. These are not closed-end funds that sort of go away. And the capital that are in those vehicles is very sticky, and there's a very solid promote history. So again, as a stand-alone business, if you were looking at this as an investment management business, we think we get a 20 to 25 multiple on the base and you get the present value of our promote, some forward promote, on top of that. And we're not anywhere near that. Now the surprise for people, I think, is going to be both our procurement organization and this essentials revenue that we're going to drive because not -- nobody can really do that. You have to have, as I said, scale and a balance sheet and the wherewithal to invest in innovation. And look, I mean, the procurement side of things, in theory, we should be getting some value today, right, because you should be seeing the procurement side of it in higher operating margins and higher development margins. Now we're going to argue that we're not getting enough with respect to the development margin side [ of that, so might as well just -- I mean ] development. But the essential side is coming. And I am, again, more optimistic about it than I've ever been. And we will share with you more visibility on that business when it becomes meaningful enough to do that. And we're a $140 billion company now, so meaningful is a relative term, I guess. But that could come as early as next year, when we start giving you more visibility to that business. And at that point, I absolutely believe there's a conversation that we're going to have around how should that business be valued. And hopefully, it's not some conversation that we have on the development business and the investment business.
Vikram Malhotra
analystWell, great. This was certainly fascinating. And thank you so much again for taking time out, and thank you for all the investors for listening in. Unfortunately, we've run out of time, but please, enjoy the rest of the Life After COVID. And thank you, Gary, once again, for participating.
Gary Anderson
executiveYes. Thank you, Vikram. It's a pleasure and always nice to see you. Take care of yourself.
Vikram Malhotra
analystThank you so much. Take care. Bye-bye.
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