Prologis, Inc. (PLD) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
November 17, 2020
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Vikram Malhotra
analystWell, thanks so much for joining us at our -- the next NAREIT presentation. My name is Vikram Malhotra. I'm one of the REIT analysts at Morgan Stanley. And I'm joined by Prologis, specifically Tom Olinger, the CFO of the company. Thanks so much for joining us. Before we get into Q&A, maybe I'll just turn it over to Tom and give a quick, brief update on the company.
Thomas Olinger
executiveGood afternoon, everybody. Thanks for joining and giving us time. Vikram, thanks for hosting this for us. I thought I'd just give a couple of updates on our proprietary leasing activities post Q3. And this is data that I'll share with you. It's in our presentation deck. If you look at, it's Page 10. But just a couple of highlights. Leasing activity between October 1 of this year and last Friday, November 13. Leasing activity is up 18% year-over-year comparative period. And it is adjusted for our larger size, so it does take into account the Liberty and IPT transaction. So leasing activity is up meaningfully at 18%. And then proposals are -- is up a little over 8%, and that's our -- one of our best forward indicators of demand. So proposals are up again, 8% -- 8.1% versus same comparative period in 2019. And 2019 is a tough comp. That was obviously a very good year of leasing activity. So it's very encouraging to see that the leasing momentum that we had in Q3 is carrying over into Q4. Lease gestation, that's the time it takes from a proposal to get signed. We're running at 47 days through this period. That's down 10 days or about 20%. So customers are making decisions faster, so that's encouraging. Retention is down a bit, consistent with what we saw in Q3, and that is just some churn inside the portfolio, tenants moving around. Us, proactively moving some tenants out, quite frankly. So I think it's healthy. But the leasing volume is more than making up for that slightly lower retention. And then just on collections. Collections continue to remain quite strong, and they're running at a pace ahead of 2019 levels. [Technical Difficulty]
Vikram Malhotra
analystSorry for the interruption. I think we just lost Tom. Just give us a minute. Here we go.
Thomas Olinger
executiveI'm sorry. It gave me a system prompt that -- it says something like pop-ups or something blocked. So it blocked me out. So sorry about that, everybody.
Vikram Malhotra
analystNo worries. So that was a great overview. Thanks, Tom. Maybe we can just start with the Q&A. So if we think about -- during the pandemic, we've seen sort of a 3-year pull forward of e-commerce growth, and that's obviously helped demand during this recession and hold of fundamentals a lot better. Where do you see e-commerce penetration today? Can you talk about -- give us examples in certain sectors and how you see that playing out going forward?
Thomas Olinger
executiveWell, yes, we've certainly seen a significant amount of demand pull-forward. But the way we look at it is just the curve just got pulled forward and now it's going to move forward from a new watching point. The e-commerce demand today, I would say, has never been broader from what we've seen. We get a lot of questions about Amazon, and Amazon is certainly a very important customer. They represented 14% of our leasing in Q3. And our -- again, e-com leasing, extremely broad. 3PLs would be an area where we've seen significant leasing. We had record high 3PL leasing in Q3. It was about 37% versus a norm of probably more like 20%, 25%. So the 3PLs are certainly fulfilling a need for particularly smaller- and medium-sized customers who need to have an e-commerce presence. And then clearly, anything around the staples, whether it's food and beverage, health care and packaging, are all quite busy. So while we see this pull forward happening, I would say, generally, our customer supply chains are very inefficient right now, and there's a significant need to adjust their current supply chains to meet the current levels of demand. So while they are getting things done, they're getting things done pretty inefficiently in a suboptimal way. So I see the level of investment that's needed to meet the current levels of e-commerce activities to take quite a while to get fixed.
Vikram Malhotra
analystAnd I guess, you view this as maybe 3 buckets, where the likes of, say, Amazon, Walmart, et cetera, were ahead of the curve or already built out their supply chain. There was a mid-segment that was in the process, and then there was a large kind of tail that was still building out. Does this accelerate that process? And combined with that, do you see the need for faster delivery playing a role as well, where you just -- it sort of turbocharges the demand going forward? How do you see this whole kind of wave of supply chain restructuring playing out from here on?
Thomas Olinger
executiveI think it's going to -- it's certainly accelerated and it's certainly more broad-based than it has ever been from that perspective. And while you had certain players that -- who are more proactive or on the front-end of building out their supply chains, I'm not sure anybody was really ahead of their current growth. And it was pretty clear at the start of the pandemic, the supply chain was just broken and overwhelmed for almost all of our customers. So I think it's -- again, I'll go back. I've never seen the interest in e-commerce and customers focusing on e-commerce being this broad. I actually think it's going to continue to broaden going forward. And the things I would point to, e-commerce is one aspect of it. Chairing inventories is another aspect of it, where we know our customers are going to want to carry more inventory. They've told us anywhere -- we think anywhere between 5% and 10% more inventory. And that obviously would have a huge impact on demand as customers try to carry more inventory. And what we've seen so far is, while they want to carry more inventory, they really haven't been able to do it. And the best indicator of that would be the -- look at the inventory-to-sales ratio, it's at or near its all-time low. So at the same time, our customers are telling us they want to carry more inventory and need to carry more inventory. The inventories are at or near record low levels. And the other thing, it's never been more important for our customers to carry more inventory, and the economics to carrying the more inventory is never -- have never been more favorable. You've heard us talk about our ramp being a very small piece of the supply chain cost, typically less than 5%. And what's even more important from that standpoint is looking at our rent as a percentage of the end sales price of the product in our warehouses. We think that cost is -- a percentage is anywhere between a 0.25% to 0.5%. So 25 to 50 basis points of our warehouse cost is sitting in the ending sales price. So we are extremely small piece of the supply chain costs and an even smaller piece of the ending sales price. So the economics for our customers to carry more inventory are quite favorable. And then when you look at the cost of capital, the cost of -- the carry cost of the inventory has never been lower. And on the other side, so why would a customer carry more inventory? Well, it's really about 2 things. One is they don't want to lose that lost sale. So they lose that lost sale, they lose that lost margin. And secondly, if they lose that sale, they might lose you as a customer and now they have a potential reacquisition cost. So when our customers look at the potential, the lost margin on sale, and the potential reacquisition costs, those costs more than offset the cost of carrying the inventory. So this supply chain being highly efficient and just-in-time is clearly moving to just-in-case and moving to resiliency. So I think we are just in the beginning phases of that. So I think that's one of the key things for you, as analysts and investors, to really understand is where the maturity of the supply chain is right now. And the supply chain is nowhere near in a position to handle what's in front of it right now. And our Head of Customer -- our Head of our Customer team, I was just talking to him in the last couple of days. He would describe it when he talks -- he's in constant dialogue with our big customers, the supply chain is just under stress, and that's the best way he can describe it.
Vikram Malhotra
analystThat makes sense. And then so what does all this mean with now multiple drivers of new demand from here on, higher demand? What does this mean for the rent growth trajectory for your key markets and then rent spreads for Prologis going forward?
Thomas Olinger
executiveWell, I -- so clearly, we saw a deceleration in rent growth in 2020. We saw rents tick down modestly about 1.5% in Q2. They rebounded in Q3, recovered that in a little bit more, and we see rents growing into Q4. And when we get to the other side of the pandemic, we would expect rent growth to accelerate -- meaningfully accelerate and be ahead of where we thought it would have been pre-COVID. So our -- the demand drivers around carrying more inventory and higher e-commerce are clearly going to push rents higher longer-term than we would have thought pre-COVID. So I would expect the rent curve to get back to where we were pre-COVID sometime in '21 when we get the vaccine and everybody has more confidence about reengaging with the economy and doing things. And then as it relates to rent change on roll, we've been seeing rent change on roll in the mid-20% range. I think that continues going forward. And I think with rent growth continuing, I think our mark-to-market is going to start to -- it's roughly a little over 12% right now. I think that mark-to-market -- when rent growth kicks back in, it's going to start growing again, which is going to be the long-term -- which is the long-term driver of our same-store growth.
Vikram Malhotra
analystThat makes sense. And then related to that, last quarter, you announced sort of shifting back from an occupancy strategy, a focused strategy to more of a rent growth-first strategy. Can you kind of talk about what occupancy level are you comfortable kind of really pushing rent to the next level? And how do you see this playing out again over the near term?
Thomas Olinger
executiveYes. It's a good question. We're going to do this by market and submarket. We have -- we set rent growth, we adjust rent growth every quarter for all of our markets, so we do it in over 100 markets around the world. And what we look for is the market rent growth against what we're seeing on the demand side. And there are several markets today where we are shifting to push rent. In SoCal, it's Inland Empire West, for sure. I think L.A. County is going to start coming into that mix. New York, New Jersey, Toronto, Northern Europe. Even in the U.K., we are certainly pushing rents. So we do it market-by-market, but it's when -- it's really looking at our leasing pipeline. And when we see the depth in that leasing pipeline, where we know we -- product is scarce, and we can push rents. So it's certainly -- I would expect more and more markets to come into the pushing rent camp as we get into 2021.
Vikram Malhotra
analystSo the internal growth prospects seem pretty robust and strong, given the occupancy, the rent prospects. Can you talk a little bit about the external growth side? Specifically, you've acquired several portfolios, DCT, LPT, for example, which have all been additive to growth and accretive. Can you talk about -- in terms of capital deployment, what's next over the near term? What's the focus for Prologis? And where is maybe the biggest arbitrage?
Thomas Olinger
executiveFrom an external standpoint -- external growth standpoint?
Vikram Malhotra
analystExternal growth, yes.
Thomas Olinger
executiveWell, I think -- just one overall comment would be when we decide to grow, whether it's putting capital to our development portfolio or acquiring an asset, it has to enhance our growth. Number one, it's got to be an asset that's in the markets we want, and it's got to be at the right asset quality that -- and then more importantly, drive the right long-term growth for us. If it were not, it would be this silly and stupid for us to go out and acquire assets that dilute our long-term growth. So it's all about driving long-term growth opportunities. And from an acquisition standpoint, things are certainly more competitive today. Cap rates -- prices are going up, cap rates are going down. And we look to acquire where we can add value, with something unique that we can bring to the table, whether it's a customer relationship, whether it's utilizing our in-house environmental or construction teams, it's solving our customer problem. So that's where we try to focus, where we can drive incremental value for our shareholders long term. And as far as larger acquisition opportunities, it's always a function of what's available on the market. And it's -- again, it's got to be -- at the asset quality, what we want at a price that makes sense for us from a growth perspective. And we focus on unlevered IRRs, that's what drives our investment strategy. And then second would be if you're buying a large portfolio and there's portions of it you don't want, you got to be able to price that portfolio to move it, cover transaction costs and cover holding costs. And -- so we're certainly prepared to do that. We've got the systems, processes and technology to further scale significantly. I'm confident in that. We certainly got the capital to do it when we look at our current leverage and our rating, both in our -- in the Prologis, the parent company as well as our open-ended funds. We have about $13 billion -- over $13 billion of just leverage capacity. So should something opportunity come our way, we are ready to go if it meets the quality and growth boxes.
Vikram Malhotra
analystThat makes sense. So the other kind of growth prospects you've talked about at the Investor Day was related to becoming a lot more customer-centric and really integrating and offering services and products to your customers, be it kind of labor or anything to do within the box itself. Can you talk about where we are with realizing that revenue opportunity? How do we think about it from a materiality standpoint as well as a timing perspective?
Thomas Olinger
executiveYes, there -- thanks for bringing that up. There are 2 aspects of creating value beyond the real estate. One would be around procurement, using our size and scale to procure goods on our behalf. And we are -- we had set out a target of $150 million of savings, whether that's construction, CapEx, G&A. And we're going to get close to hitting that in 2020, and we will exceed that is my guess in 2021. That's gone extremely well, probably a little faster than we would have thought, and I think there's more upside there as we size it. I think there's more opportunity for us there. And that's already showing up. You don't see it running through the P&L for the most part. Yes, you see some of it in G&A, but the vast majority of it is sitting in development in CapEx. So it's either higher development margins because we are building things more effectively and cheaper. It's lower CapEx, so it's showing up in higher AFFO and higher free cash flow. The other side of that is what we call our essentials business, where we can offer products and services that are centered around when someone's centered or close proximity to the real estate, so when someone's moving into our spaces, what do they need, they need racking systems, automation equipment, forklifts. They need just general services around maintenance of the facility and the like. So we've made progress this year, although slower than what we would have liked. That's a situation where COVID did get in the way a little bit, quite frankly, because a lot of the initial targeting for the customer base was to go out and meet people face-to-face, shake hands because the procure -- the individuals inside the -- our customers buying these types of products and services were different from the real estate. So we had to create new relationships. And that's been a little tougher in COVID. However, we've doubled down on our digitization efforts inside the company as far as our investments in digitizing the customer experience. And through doing that, it's been a good reset of our service offerings and how we deliver services, and quite frankly, opening up another basket of goods and services that we think we can deliver to our customers. And at the end of the day, we feel more comfortable today around the opportunity set here than we did when we talked about this last November. And our scale advantage is significant. We've almost got 1 billion square feet today, but more importantly, about 2.5% of the world's GDP runs through our warehouses. That just gives us incredible scale and buying power. And we're starting to leverage that. Our biggest success for -- so far has been with LED lights, putting LED lights inside of our buildings for our customers and charging for it. We've taken the cost down significantly for LED lightings, almost cost down by 2/3. By -- now we white-label it instead of buying it. We're getting it manufacturing on our behalf. So that's been a huge success.
Vikram Malhotra
analystThat's really interesting and definitely additive to the growth story over here. Maybe just taking a higher level view. Can you talk about changes we might see more broadly with the supply chain, be it labor, transportation? We talked about drone delivery. And as you see more automation, what does this mean for the box itself, pound-for-pound? Will we need less space or more space going forward?
Thomas Olinger
executiveI think if you -- so clearly, technology and automation is going to make the supply chain more efficient, which is what's happened really over time. I mean if you look at inventory to sales and -- inventory sales is unusually low right now. But certainly, over time, the supply chain has gotten more efficient, and I think technology will continue to make it more efficient. And clearly, with automation, I think it's just primarily densification, getting more inside the warehouse. And then artificial intelligence around the ability to better predict buying patterns. So knowing what you might want to buy and holding that in inventory. And technology around limiting returns with using augmented reality and virtual reality and the like to try to limit returns. So I think all of those are going to go on. However, as we look at what's happening on the supply chain side with carrying more inventory of the incremental product variety that customers now expect online, so i.e., carrying more SKUs, we see all of those things, in combination, more than offsetting what we would see as opportunities for the supply chain to become more efficient. Now I'll just throw one thing out there. On the SKUs, and I think these numbers are directionally correct, but if you went to a Walmart Superstore, you might see 150,000 to 200,000 SKUs inside that store. If you went to walmart.com, you're going to see 2 million, 3 million-plus SKUs. So just think about the product variety. When you look for something online and the variety and sizes, shapes and colors you can get versus in a store front, we think that's only going to continue to proliferate.
Vikram Malhotra
analystOkay. That makes sense. I want to work in a question that we just got via the web. So during the pandemic, there were lots of customers fulfilling from their own brick-and-mortar stores. How do you see sort of the use of retail stores, or more specifically, malls and strip centers playing a part in the distribution business?
Thomas Olinger
executiveMaybe I'll take those in 2 parts. First, as far as what we're seeing from order online and pick-up in store, we are seeing that create more demand for our type of product. Because what's happening with the order -- buy online, pick up in store, it's creating higher turns and inventory at the store, right? They're just -- the shelves are turning faster, and they need faster turns of the product. So we're seeing opportunities for our real estate to step in and provide inventory for faster replenishment. So a retailer that might have had a -- has a warehouse system that might be 1 or 2 truck days away from the storefront. Now they need something that's inside of a day, so they need something much more infill to restock that store. So that's something that is actually accelerating a fair bit. Now as it relates to retail and strip centers and do those -- I think the real question is, do those become some form of logistics somehow? I do think more of the BOPUS, buy online and pick up in our near store, is going to happen. Now that is not necessarily the most efficient use of space because you're holding inventory in the store, and that's typically your most expensive real estate. So I think over time -- while that's going to increase, I think over time, we're going to see our customer set try to optimize that and shift as much of that as they can to the warehouse because that is the cheaper option. Now there is the whole discussion about is it cheaper to store in the storefront and have a customer pick it up or ultimately store in the warehouse and ship it to their house. And I think that gap is closing, and so I think more of that's going to shift into the warehouse. And then as far as conversions of retail and strip centers into logistics, we did a research piece on that. And the bottom line is we just don't think there's a lot of it in our markets that will be supplied down the road. We think it might be 1% of total supply over the next -- per year for the next 10 years. So it's quite de minimis.
Vikram Malhotra
analystAnd then I know we have a few minutes left, but just another question that comes up. Comparing globally just different regions, fundamentally, you've -- in the past talked about sort of Europe lagging the U.S. Can you kind of -- as you see it today, can you talk about some of the major hubs, Europe, Asia, the U.S. and maybe even Latin America, just where are we -- all these regions? And from a cycle perspective, where do you see the most growth prospects?
Thomas Olinger
executiveIt's interesting. I think there's more consistency across our geographic portfolio as far as opportunities for growth in these infill markets. The trends around e-commerce and carrying inventory are extremely consistent across our customer base and across geographies. So I see those opportunities to be consistent. That being said, I think if you look very long term, the supply chain is most mature in the U.S. and less mature outside the U.S. So over time, I think there's going to be more opportunities outside the U.S. That's not to diminish at all what the opportunity inside the U.S. is. There's meaningful supply reconfiguration that just has to happen for all the reasons we've talked about. But I think it's a very consistent deployment opportunities across the globe and a lot of consistency in the trends, more so than I've seen in my 15 years with the company. So I feel good about opportunities really across our portfolio to both deploy and grow.
Vikram Malhotra
analystWell, great. I think we've almost run out of time. I know people generally have back-to-back meetings. So this was very helpful and informative. Thank you again so much for joining, and thank you, everyone, for listening in. Thanks, everyone . Have a good rest of the conference.
Thomas Olinger
executiveThanks, Vikram. Thanks, everybody.
Vikram Malhotra
analystThanks. Take care.
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