PTC Therapeutics, Inc. (PTCT) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

November 11, 2020

NASDAQ US Health Care conference_presentation 32 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Martin Auster

analyst
#1

Okay. Hey, everybody. I am Marty Auster. I'm the lead SMID cap biotech analyst at Crédit Suisse. Welcome to the 29th Annual Crédit Suisse Healthcare Conference, First Virtual Conference. I'm happy to have PTC Therapeutics today. I've got Stu Peltz, CEO of the company, along with several members of the team. Stu, I was just about to say in the breakout. I was -- I had every best intention to kind of do this in front of a fireplace, and it's been like 70-plus degrees all week in Vermont and apparently warmer than in Phoenix. So I don't know what to say, but maybe next year, we'll actually get a fire. But let me hand it over to you to introduce who's all joining you today from the team. And maybe if you could also just make an intro kind of an overview comment about kind of the PTC vision.

Stuart Peltz

executive
#2

Sure. Thanks for having us. Sort of nice to be in warm Vermont, I guess. I'm in rainy Florida right now on the West Coast. So I think it's going to miss the storm a little bit, but we'll get a heavy rain. With me today is Matt Klein, our CMO; Emily Hill, our CFO; and Kylie O'Keefe, our Head of Commercial Strategy. And so thanks for having us again. And I'll tell you a little bit about PTC. We're a biopharmaceutical company that both discovers, develops and commercializes therapies for rare disorders and high-met medical need. I -- besides being the CEO, I was the founder of the company where we started in 1998. We started for myself, and we're now today about 1,000 employees with employees in 25 countries and are selling products in over 50 companies. We've built a company on not only strong science, but it also has a strong commercial engine that's been doing quite well. We're commercializing Translarna in Europe, Brazil; Emflaza in the U.S., We are also selling Tegsedi and Waylivra in Brazil. And as you may know, that, obviously, in August, we had approval for one of our drugs, spinal muscular atrophy. This is a Evrysdi, which is partnered with Roche and the SMA foundation. So you can see we've done innovative products that come out of our laboratories with Translarna, SMA. We also have a very robust pipeline with a number of other products that are moving forward. We have a number of scientific platforms that are moving forward, not only in nonsense suppression and splicing, but also in gene therapy, where we have a Bio-e platform and inborn error of metabolism. So we -- the idea is that we've built the company really to have a number of development candidates that move forward through development that ultimately at steady state have a number such that will be continuous having a valuable set of compounds to commercialize -- therapies to commercialize. So that's been our game plan, and we've been building both the commercial engine as well as the discovery development engine.

Martin Auster

analyst
#3

So I guess I'd like to spend most of the time talking about your business and your pipeline. Obviously, Evrysdi has been such a big focus of the company and such a large part of the value, but it's now kind of a royalty stream with the success of the product coming to market. So I don't want to spend too much of our half hour on that. But if you could just kind of just walk through the economics. And obviously, you got a transaction with Royalty Pharma earlier in the summer this year that kind of provided you with some cash, also help you to retain a lot of the long-term value in Evrysdi. But kind of talk a little bit maybe about the kind of the economic share you have in that product, and then the kind of the rationale for that deal. And then we'll jump into the pipeline from there.

Stuart Peltz

executive
#4

Sure. So obviously, as everyone knows Evrysdi is the orally bioavailable molecule that has shown transformative results in spinal muscular atrophy and all aspects of type 1, 2 and 3. So it's really an exciting therapy, especially in these times with COVID, by way of home delivery, easy to use. And so we've done -- and that product has been -- has had a very nice launch. And we have substantial royalties and monetized it. And once you go through a little bit of the royalties and monetization.

Emily Hill

executive
#5

Yes. No, we saw that royalty monetization opportunity is a real win-win because as you mentioned, Marty, we were able to maintain about 60% of the royalty stream. And with Evrysdi up to such a strong start from the launch and particularly, benefiting from even the tailwinds of patients requiring an at-home therapy during COVID, we're happy to have maintained the majority of that royalty stream. And then the full royalty will revert to us once Royalty Pharma has reached a cap of $1.3 billion. So essentially, double the $650 million we received initially upfront. And that upfront cash really allows us to continue to invest in our pipeline and accelerate our other programs, including splicing and BioElectron platforms that we'll be talking about today.

Martin Auster

analyst
#6

Okay, super. Let's -- yes, let's jump in, let's talk about the splicing platform first, too. I know you guys had a kind of an R&D kind of webinar on this a couple of months ago. Maybe if you could highlight kind of how that's developed over time? Obviously, there's a couple of products that have kind of -- couple of splicing products that have kind of come to market out of PTC. And then kind of where do you see that? What you've learned, what you've applied and kind of what's in the pipeline that's exciting kind of in the near-term and the longer-term in your plans with that platform?

Stuart Peltz

executive
#7

With the overall pipeline?

Martin Auster

analyst
#8

Yes. We'll start with splicing, and then we'll kind of move to gene therapy and -- yes.

Stuart Peltz

executive
#9

Sure, right. So yes. So we learned a lot about how to manipulate splicing with the orally bioavailable small molecules, and what are the types of targets to go after. And so we've been working hard on that, both on many aspects of it the platform itself, so we can rapidly identify and look at splicing -- effects on splicing, not only on the individual molecule, but also on the overall RNAs within a cell or organism. So we could really look at lots of things all at once. And improved our -- the chemistry and our ability to look for small molecules to do so quite rapidly. And then one of the things where the next program -- and we've shown it actually to work in a number of -- [ if they can ] show a proof of principle for [ resolve ] as well as Huntington's disease. And Huntington is probably the next most of interest. It's obviously a triple nucleotide repeat disease. And we've shown that we are able to use our splicing technology in a very innovative way where we can modulate the splicing. And in this case, instead of repairing it, we can actually cause pseudoexon, that's within an intron of an RNA that normally doesn't get put into the RNA, to be spliced into the RNA that would have a premature stop codon that would then allow it to actually get rid of both the RNA and the protein. Therefore, lower those levels of both RNA and protein of the Huntington RNA and the Huntington protein. And we've shown we can do that quite successfully with an orally bioavailable molecule. And what we've learned over the time, it's not only can we modulate the efficiency of splicing, but going after CNS and things within the brain. It's very important also to actually get it right in terms of having the pharmaceutical properties such that not only does it pass the blood-brain barrier, but that it doesn't e-flux. And what I mean by that is that what the brain does quite well is actually kick molecules out, it passes -- pushes them out. And so what you really have to do is not only work on the pharmaceutical properties that allow it to pass to blood-brain barrier that prevented from being rapidly e-flux out of the brain. And so we've been able to learn how very nicely to not only make these molecules be efficient in terms of affecting splicing, but also to make sure that they can get to the right place and stay there. And so our molecules now in this one will be -- we're very excited about the Huntington's program. That indeed that we can lower Huntington with a small molecule that have kept the pharmaceutical properties that we were excited about. And this is as we said, we anticipate that to be starting any moment in terms of our Phase I in healthy volunteers. The exciting aspect of that and being able to go to healthy volunteers is that you could rapidly escalate the dosing, so you're going to find the right exposure. And then in the healthy subjects because of -- and this is analogous to what we did in SMA, is we could show that it lowers the Huntington RNA in blood, and we know from all our work that you could see a similar reduction within the brain that was measured in CSF. So -- and that's important because what you see in the blood and what you can then say is happening within the brain gives you very good confidence that you'll be actually lowering it in the right places. So we're really...

Martin Auster

analyst
#10

And the healthy volunteer study, will you be measuring the plasma HTT lowering or the CSF also? Or...

Stuart Peltz

executive
#11

Both.

Martin Auster

analyst
#12

Both. Okay. Excellent. And then from the animal models, so how do you see the distribution? Is it 1:1? Are you getting dispersion throughout the spinal column as well as in the deep brain structures, obviously Huntington's is kind of starts in the stride on basically that area and kind of expands out in terms of where the neuronal death impact is observed.

Stuart Peltz

executive
#13

Yes. And ultimately, we talked about the strain on the cortex, but it really is a whole brain disease when you look at this. And so the mere fact that it's an orally bioavailable molecule that is delivered and exposed from the blood is, I think a really major advantage in that it gets to all brain cell types, right? So that -- and I think that's really one of the major advantages that we have is that its distribution exposure can be seen throughout the brain, and then we've seen that in animal models. So we feel pretty comfortable that we have a small molecule that can actually get to the right places because of the brain and therefore gets good distribution, and we'll get good HTT lowering as a consequence of that.

Martin Auster

analyst
#14

Okay. And you've -- from your from preclinical studies, then you've been able to kind of demonstrate this, I know, in mice. Have you -- can you also kind of assume your dose like primates or other large animals in some of your tox studies? Do you see the same relationships there as well?

Stuart Peltz

executive
#15

Yes. In the rats, nonhuman primates, and we look at CSF as well. And we see equal levels, both in blood -- free drug in both the blood and the brain. So we feel pretty good about what we define and see as the exposure in blood is what we'll see in the brain. So it allowed us to pick the right dose that gets us to the right exposure, that we can then reduce the 1 of the Huntington protein and RNA for that matter to the right levels.

Martin Auster

analyst
#16

Great. And what level of HTT lowering are you targeting? And how -- kind of what's your view of the safety of kind of lowering that because obviously, patients have mutant as well as kind of normal wild-type HTT protein?

Stuart Peltz

executive
#17

Yes, that's right. And so our anticipation usually is somewhere -- shooting for approximately 50% lowering. I think there's a fair amount of evidence that shows that you're pretty -- you're fine to see lowering of those levels. I mean most of it obviously was embryonic greenfield in animals, but had less of an effective as animals get older. And I think there's a lot of data both in humans and animals that indicate that lowering probably somewhere between 40% to 60% should be fine, and actually be efficacious for the Huntington patients.

Martin Auster

analyst
#18

Okay. And then that healthy volunteer study, it sounds like that it could start dosing pretty soon, over the next few months or so? Will there be -- do you anticipate having an update sometime in 2021 then on the healthy volunteers or early 22, maybe?

Stuart Peltz

executive
#19

In the first half of the year, we should -- we're going to be doing single ascending dose and multiple dose, so would we look. And depending on half-life and what it looks like, we will be -- update in both of those. So we'll talk about that at the appropriate time. Let's look through the first half of the year.

Martin Auster

analyst
#20

Do you have a sense of how long you need to dose for to demonstrate reduction of the Huntington protein, MRNA?

Stuart Peltz

executive
#21

Well, the reduction of Huntington RNA and protein, probably that's in animal models can see probably within a month. It always depends on what's the half-life in humans and how quick it goes down, right? Usually, when you think about half-lives, and reaching steady state, you give it 3 to 4 levels times to see where until it gets down to a steady state. So somewhere between, if it's a couple of days. It should be seen within a month for sure.

Martin Auster

analyst
#22

Okay. Great. I look forward to that. Maybe kind of switching over to the gene therapy programs. I guess maybe if you could kind of walk back to the acquisition of Agilis couple of years ago, which was kind of the base of your gene therapy efforts and kind of what you've kind of developed off that platform. Since then, obviously, there's some -- in addition to the ADC deficiency program, which has kind of made some nice progress. There's some earlier-stage programs that are going to start coming into clinic in the relatively near-term as well.

Stuart Peltz

executive
#23

Yes. So we've been -- obviously, we've been working hard on our gene therapy programs, AADC, we put in already an MAA, which we said, which should get a result in the first half of next year, an opinion from the CHMP by the first half of next year. And that will also be having a BLA into the FDA within the first half of next year as well. So we're excited about that. Obviously, in the case of the AADC, which is a deficiency in dopamine. We think also those were transformative results that were quite exciting where you inject specifically into putamen, where dopamine is -- that may, and we've shown long-term production of dopamine. And there was a 5-year clinical study and then up to another 5 years of a follow-up. And of these kids who are developmentally arrested, many of whom were unable to even hold their head up or sit or stand. We're now capable over time to do those functions and be able to walk and stand. So really quite transformative results, so we're excited about that. So we've been -- that was the first of what we done of the program. And our thinking of the program of the gene therapy really was to start going into tissue types that had slow cell turnover, like the brain, [ eye, heart ] I think are good examples of that. We've been focusing on the CNS. And so this is direct injection to putamen. We're also looking at a FA. FA is our next 1 that we're working on Angelman's and a number of others that are being built. So we're -- and they're -- all of them with a focus of being able to do direct injection. Therefore, that would help in terms of manufacture -- smaller amounts of manufacturing and not needing as large samples for each patient. So we're excited about that. Matt, do you want to talk a little bit about where we're at in terms of those programs?

Matthew Klein

executive
#24

Yes absolutely. So in terms -- so as you mentioned for AADC, the MAA has been submitted. We're expecting the final CHMP opinion in H1 2021. We also expect to have a BLA submitted in H1 2021. We've been pushing forward with the FA and AS programs. We had some delays, really COVID-related, and I think people are well aware of the global shortage of nonhuman primates. In addition, some of the CMOs that we were using for manufacturing bioanalytical functionalities were impacted by COVID as they were now diverting all their resources towards producing vaccines and related COVID supplies. We're still happy to report that things are moving forward. We're incredibly enthusiastic about these programs. We're making very good progress and expect to be in the clinic in the very near future. As Stu mentioned for FA, we're excited. We have both the gene therapy program as well as our small molecule program, PTC743. And we see this as really an ideal approach, leveraging our order targeted gene therapy delivery strategy with FA as well as being able to treat the entire patient. So while we were doing for AADC direct injection to putamen, which is really the key location for dopamine neurons. In FA, we're giving direct injection to the cerebellum in particular dentate nucleus, which is really ground zero for a key aspect of the Friedreich ataxia neuropathology. And so by being able to provide for tax into that specific location, we're able to effectively target key aspects of disease. However, we all know that FA is a total brain and total body disease, and that'd be able to complement the gene therapy with our oral small molecule, which is entering a Phase III trial that will initiate before the end of the year. We're able to target other areas of brain. And also importantly, artery systems such as the heart, which is [ inside ] the CNS had a significant contributor to FA morbidity and even mortality risk.

Martin Auster

analyst
#25

And in terms of the IND filing and initiating clinical trial, let's start with the FA program, I know that's something that you mentioned there, there was some kind of COVID-related issues. Have there been -- has the challenge been in -- on the CMC side or in the preclinical study side? What are the gating steps to IND filing currently?

Stuart Peltz

executive
#26

Matt?

Matthew Klein

executive
#27

Yes, sure. So we're just finishing up the final GMP manufacturing and tox studies. And as we said, we expect to be in the clinic next year.

Martin Auster

analyst
#28

Got it. Okay. And then for the Angelman syndrome program, where does that stand now? When do you expect to be able to begin dosing? And what steps remain to kind of file IND there?

Stuart Peltz

executive
#29

So there, we're working on completing manufacturing. There's been delays again due to COVID on that to get it ready. But that's been the main function in getting that ready. We're going to be -- fortunately for us, and you can see that's a problem, especially with the vaccines that have been coming on, lots of the groups have slowed that down. But we're excited that we've now sort of moved into our site now and hope well, to be able to get that running to begin our own manufacturing, so that we'll be able to get FA and others ourselves going internally as well. So -- and that's actually -- so we're in there now. We -- as you may remember, that was in old DMS site where we hired approximately 50 DMS people. So that's going to take off and start manufacturing for us as well. So we'll be able to control our own destiny in terms much more than relying on CMOs and others. But there's still always -- there are always issues right now in terms of even getting materials and things like that because there -- it's actually -- there's just shortages right now, not to mention shortages of nonhuman primates and things like that. But we've sort of been working our way through this, and that's really the consequence of the delays that we've been having.

Martin Auster

analyst
#30

Is -- the IND for Angelman, is that expected for '21? Or is that still to be determined?

Stuart Peltz

executive
#31

I think we've targeted for '21. Isn't that right, Matt?

Matthew Klein

executive
#32

Yes.

Martin Auster

analyst
#33

Okay. And then obviously, there was some recent encouraging data from one of the ASO approaches in Angelman. Could you talk a little bit kind of I don't know if you've -- are aware of that data? Or what do you think of that? What does that mean in terms of kind of mechanistically what you're trying to do gene therapy? Does that kind of derisk clinically a little bit in terms of the effect?

Stuart Peltz

executive
#34

Yes. Matt, do you want to comment a little bit?

Matthew Klein

executive
#35

Yes. We thought those data were interesting. Obviously, there were some very strong signals of efficacy in a small number of patients. And obviously, I think it is supportive of being able to take such an approach in Angelman. I think we're all aware that the -- there's obviously a need for therapies in Angelman that are safe and effective. These are very challenging diseases. And I think we also know that it's going to be a development program. We're going to have to have a transformative impact in these studies. And so we -- I think we looked at those signals of efficacy. They were encouraging, and we continue to remain very enthusiastic about our approach and the development plan that we're putting in place.

Martin Auster

analyst
#36

Okay. Great. And then maybe if we switch over to the Translarna dystrophin study, in the pursuit of approval -- U.S. approval for Translarna in DMD. I know another program that kind of COVID have a little bit of disruption to the kind of the best lead plans for you guys. But I know that those biopsies have all been taken, and you're on track now to report those results early in '21. Is that correct?

Stuart Peltz

executive
#37

Yes, that's right.

Martin Auster

analyst
#38

And has anything kind of changed beyond that in terms of -- I don't know what your interactions with FDA have been like throughout this process, obviously, it kind of disrupted the trial somewhat. Do you feel like it's still something that -- or how confident are you that the outcome can support a registration path just based on this trial? And what have your actions been, if any? And what are the challenges there?

Stuart Peltz

executive
#39

No. I think the challenge is sort of what you said is just actually getting -- having -- getting out of lockdown from COVID and getting this over. We were pretty excited that, that got completed, and we're excited to generate the data that's -- we spend a long time setting this up with the FDA, where we got an agreement with them that this -- these results, along with the clinical data that we had with also now -- I should also point out, I mean, there's now a large safety database as well as registry and nonambulatory results through other trials that are really actually quite really good data. So that these results, along with the district results will allow us to get accelerated approval that we would then get full approval with the Study 041 that would be completed after that. So we're excited about this and really pushing it quite rapidly. So that patients in the U.S. will have availability for it.

Martin Auster

analyst
#40

And then maybe turning to the Bio-e platform, which you mentioned, and there's a couple of programs that are active there. You could kind of frame that. I'm always curious also because you've done -- you've been very creative about your BD strategy, and you've been very opportunistic with the [indiscernible] Bio-e. Just maybe talk a little bit also about kind of how you source these ideas? How you find these ideas? What -- kind of just maybe a general statement on kind of how you think about just that search and also kind of you could discuss a little bit kind of what you're thinking going forward? How much of the -- you obviously have a really robust capital position right now. How much of that is investing in the existing platforms? How much of that is that you're still looking to be opportunistic for ideas that might exist out there that are being overlooked?

Stuart Peltz

executive
#41

Yes. So obviously, I think the company, since its founding, has been very much into innovative science and doing our own innovative work to building that. And we've been able to build with success having revenues that allowed us to expand our pipeline. But the idea really is to have a set of innovative platforms, right? So we have the nonsense suppression, splicing gene therapy, Bio-e. And really with the PKU, the inborn errors of metabolism. So we -- and those are sort of what we've been thinking about. And so we have a lot of internal efforts that are ongoing, particularly a large amount in the splicing field within itself. And then we also, obviously, with the Bio-e, that's a really interesting also platform, right, where you're looking at really dysregulation of electron transport at least for oxidative stress and redox issues. So -- and we think we have a very innovative way to actually tackle that using novel compounds that could then be broadly used in a large number of disease types. So we're spending a lot of our internal efforts on that as well as obviously, in gene therapy in terms of not only getting ready for commercialization, but also we're having a fair number of products to move forward. And then we shouldn't forget about the PKU asset, which actually showed that it was able to affect a greater number of patients and actually show rate of reduction in phenylalanine, which we're excited about as well. And so we're looking at all of those, building our internal engines such that at steady state, our goal is, like we said by, we'd have about $1.5 billion revenues by 2023. But the goal isn't to get to that, it's to actually continue to build up a robust pipeline through both innovative material science as well as where necessary and looking strategically what can fit in within the pipeline and the platforms that we have, business development. So that we have then a continuous stream of new clinical programs, late-stage clinical programs and new commercial products so that when we get to '23, that's only the start of having $1.5 billion. We'll have much larger and continue to grow that revenue stream. So that's really the plan that we have. And that BD then becomes part of it, just sort of be very strategic and, where necessary, to see if we could find innovative the programs that perhaps are diamonds in the rough that we can then do develop and bring to the market where we might be needing to fill in holes. Right. So -- but the goal really is to build up the research and development engine to be a steady state. If there's a constant stream of potential products growing the number of products, growing revenues such that we'll maintain ourselves for a long time to be an innovative company with high revenues and doing -- bringing innovative new therapies to patients. That's the goal.

Martin Auster

analyst
#42

Yes. And so in that $1.5 billion in 2023, that's built off of the existing revenue-producing assets in the existing pipeline, not including additional kind of programs brought in? Is that correct?

Stuart Peltz

executive
#43

Well, it really was based on Translarna, Tegsedi, Waylivra, Evrysdi and AADC, and then puts and takes that some could be more, some could be less, some of the Bio-e's could be coming on, the programs there can be coming on around that time. And close PKU could follow somewhat around there, too. So there's a lot of sort of ways to get to that number as well to even grow it further.

Martin Auster

analyst
#44

Okay. And I think we just have a couple of minutes here. But if we could -- just on Bio-e, because the 743 program is in later-stage testing. Could you just kind of walk through and frame the kind of the time lines and the opportunity? I think you guys had talked -- Matthew talked about the FA program a little bit, but if you could also talk about the seizure program.

Stuart Peltz

executive
#45

Sure, Matt, you want to talk about 743 with mitochondrial epilepsy and then the FA program.

Matthew Klein

executive
#46

Yes, absolutely. So the 743 mitochondrial epilepsy potential registration trial has begun. We initiated enrollment in that trial. We're targeting enrollment of 60 kids with mitochondrial disease and associated refractory seizures. Just as background, about half of all children with inherited mitochondrial disease have seizures that, almost all of which are refractory to traditional antiepileptic medications. And the reason for that is that the seizures in these kids are caused by disruptions in energy regulation and the synthesis. And traditionally, antiepileptics don't target these pathways. In fact, many traditional standard antiepileptics actually heighten the cellular oxygen stress. And -- so what they do and whatever benefit you may get, it actually worsens pathology in these kids that lead to the seizures. And so we've been able to demonstrate the 743, which targets the enzyme 15-lipoxygenase, which is a powerful regulator of the inflammation and oxygen stress pathways that not only underly seizures in these children, but other aspects of the pathology. What we've seen at a number of our earlier-stage studies is an ability to reduce seizure frequency that in seizures are the traditional refract, give you also -- reduce the occurrence of status epilepticus as well as record effects on disease morbidities such as decrease in disease-related hospitalizations and, in some cases, decrease mortality risk. So this trial is really built on the strong scientific rationale based on the target mechanism action of 743, the pathology and pathophysiology of seizures in kids with mitochondrial disease and the data that we've collected in previous trials. And so we've set this up as a global trial, where we estimate to be about 11,000 to 13,000 kids with refractory seizures in U.S., EU, Latin America and Japan, in places where we're going to be conducting the study. The 60 kids will be enrolled. There'll be a running phase very similar to what's been done at our antiepileptic trials such as [indiscernible] where we'll want to be sure these kids have a minimum number of observer seizures, that then get randomized to 743 or placebo for 6 months and the primary input of the reduction in observance of seizures with secondary endpoints capturing other aspects of seizures as well as disease morbidity. Again, leveraging the data we've observed in earlier trials of these important effects beyond just reduction in seizure frequency.

Martin Auster

analyst
#47

All right. Excellent. Well, Matt, Emily, Stu, thank you all very much for joining us today. Really enjoyed it. Thanks, everyone, for who's watching on the webcast. Appreciate it as well. Have a great rest of your day. Take care.

Emily Hill

executive
#48

Thank you, Martin. Take care.

Martin Auster

analyst
#49

Okay. Bye-bye.

Stuart Peltz

executive
#50

Thank you, Martin.

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