Pyramid Technoplast Limited (PYRAMID) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

February 10, 2026

NSEI IN Materials Containers and Packaging earnings 47 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Soumya Chhajed

executive
#1

Hi, everyone, and a very good afternoon. I welcome you all to Pyramid Technoplast Limited Q3 and 9 Months FY '26 Concall. Please note that the discussion on today's call may include certain forward-looking statements and must be therefore viewed in conjunction with the risks pertaining to the business. We have on call today, Mr. Bijaykumar Agarwal, the Managing Director; and Mr. Jaiprakash Agarwal, CFO and Whole-Time Director. Now, I would like to hand over the call to Jai sir, to proceed with the opening remarks. Post that, we'll open the floor for Q&A. Thank you, and over to you, sir.

Jaiprakash Agarwal

executive
#2

Good evening, everybody. Myself, Jaiprakash Agarwal. It is a pleasure to walk you through Pyramid's performance for Q3 and 9 months FY '26, [indiscernible] that was important not only from a financial standpoint, but also in terms of strategic progress we made towards building a scalable and future-ready business. Over the last few quarters, we have successfully strengthened our manufacturing footprint starting from our established base in Gujarat to commissioning new capacities in Maharashtra. During this phase, we expanded capacity across all drum categories, marking a decisive step in the next leg of our growth journey. A key milestone during the quarter was the ramp-up of the Wada plant. The facility commissioned in June, and we witnessed steady operational momentum beginning Q2 FY '26. With this, our major CapEx cycle is largely complete and our focus now clearly shift towards capacity utilization and operational leverage. At Wada, the IBC and HDPE lines are fully operational with the MS line has been commissioned with the remaining expansion on track for completion by December. Beyond this, we expect only maintenance and balance CapEx of around INR 10 crores to INR 20 crores for FY '27. Our strength continue to [ fly ] in backward integration with all major backward products we have been manufacturing in-house, which gives us better cost control and supply reliability. We also strengthened our logistic backbone with our in-house fleet now expanding to 100-plus, enabling timely deliveries and deeper customer relations. On the capacity front, as of Q3 FY '26, our installed production capacity increased from 62,887 metric tons per annum to 75,856 metric tons per annum, reflecting the successful execution for our expansion plans. Capacity utilization during the quarter stood at 67%, and we expect this to steadily improve to 75% for the next financial year, driven by volume ramp-up across all the categories. Turning to key operational initiatives, we commissioned 2 important projects during this quarter, our recycling plant on October 3 and the solar power plant on October 30. The recycling plant set up on 4,400 square meters of plot in Bharuch with an investment of around INR 10 crores has an annual capacity of 5,000 metric tons per annum. This will meet approximately 10% to 12% of our raw material requirements, reduce import dependence, enhance supply chain resilience and deliver a payback within 2 to 3 years. In parallel, our 6-megawatt solar power plant in Gujarat marks the first phase of 14.25 megawatt captive solar project across Gujarat and Maharashtra. On 2, February, an additional 5 megawatt was commissioned in Bharuch and 2.25 megawatt in Maharashtra with the balance 1 megawatt to be added in the next phase. Once fully operational, over the next 3, 4 weeks, the project is expected to reduce power cost by approximately INR 15 crores annually with a total investment of INR 60 crores and a payback period of 4 years. This initiative is a strong step towards long-term cost efficiency and sustainability. Let me now brief you upon the segmental performance for Q3 FY '26. MS drum volume has increased by 1% year-on-year, while revenue has declined by 2%. HDPE drums volume grew 16% year-on-year with revenue up 10% year-on-year, supported by capacity ramp-up. IBC delivered strong performance with 37% volume growth and 27% growth year-on-year basis. Revenue stood at INR 162 crores up by 5% year-on-year for the quarter, while 9 months revenue increased by 16% to INR 486 crores, driven by volume growth across categories. Gross profit rose 22% year-on-year to INR 44 crores in Q3 and 26% to INR 130 crores for 9 months. The recycling plant is expected to further reduce our raw material cost requirement by 10% annually, supporting margin expansion going forward. EBITDA declined by 2% to INR 12 crores and PAT declined by 29% year-on-year basis to INR 4.8 crores with the margins at 7.4% and 3%, respectively, due to higher fixed cost during the capacity ramp-up phase. The benefits from the solar power plant commissioned in late October are expected to begin reflecting in the coming quarters with full impact leading to annual power cost saving of around INR 15 crores. In summary, with the expansion phase nearing completion, sustainability initiatives firmly in place and utilization level set to improve, we expect meaningful operational efficiencies to emerge over the coming quarters. Pyramid is well positioned to drive consistent growth, improved profitability, long-term value creation with all stakeholders. We are confident about the road ahead and excited about the next phase of our journey. We now open the floor for questions. Thank you.

Soumya Chhajed

executive
#3

[Operator Instructions]. First question is from Deepesh Sancheti.

Deepesh Sancheti

analyst
#4

[Foreign Language].

Bijaykumar Agarwal

executive
#5

[Foreign Language].

Deepesh Sancheti

analyst
#6

[Foreign Language].

Jaiprakash Agarwal

executive
#7

That is there, 65% to 70% always.

Deepesh Sancheti

analyst
#8

Is that optimum or we can go ahead also?

Jaiprakash Agarwal

executive
#9

We can go ahead, if we go full strength, but then we expect that 70% is optimal for this. Because we get certain rejection, there are some downtime come, so 70% optimal for us.

Deepesh Sancheti

analyst
#10

[Foreign Language].

Bijaykumar Agarwal

executive
#11

[Foreign Language].

Jaiprakash Agarwal

executive
#12

This quarter is good. Prices are going up.

Bijaykumar Agarwal

executive
#13

[Foreign Language].

Deepesh Sancheti

analyst
#14

[Foreign Language].

Bijaykumar Agarwal

executive
#15

[Foreign Language].

Deepesh Sancheti

analyst
#16

Jai, if you can give me volume growth of each and every product, quarter=on-quarter and year-on-year? Is that possible for you?

Jaiprakash Agarwal

executive
#17

If it's okay, we share it with you later on?

Deepesh Sancheti

analyst
#18

You can ask Soumya to give me the details.

Jaiprakash Agarwal

executive
#19

Definitely.

Soumya Chhajed

executive
#20

Next question is from Pratik Dedhia.

Pratik Dedhia

analyst
#21

[Foreign Language].

Bijaykumar Agarwal

executive
#22

[Foreign Language].

Soumya Chhajed

executive
#23

Next question is from Ganesh Nagarsekar.

Ganesh Nagarsekar

analyst
#24

[Foreign Language]

Bijaykumar Agarwal

executive
#25

[Foreign Language].

Soumya Chhajed

executive
#26

[Operator Instructions]. Next question is from Naman Modi.

Naman Modi

analyst
#27

[Foreign Language]

Bijaykumar Agarwal

executive
#28

[Foreign Language].

Naman Modi

analyst
#29

MS drums are directly related to steel, [Foreign Language]?

Bijaykumar Agarwal

executive
#30

[Foreign Language].

Soumya Chhajed

executive
#31

[Operator Instructions] Sorry, sir, may I know your name?

Divyesh Vora

analyst
#32

Divyesh Vora. Can you tell us the outstanding position of your term loans and your working capital? Because what is happening is, I will tell you very honestly, last quarter and previous quarter also, we had anticipated that our margins will improve, but every quarter, what is happening, some reason comes up and our margins are again at the same level. This time it is Diwali bonus and the interest cost. Now, can you just anticipate the future quarters and tell us where your margins will be at 12%, which you had targeted for yourself? Without any excuse, can you achieve that target?

Bijaykumar Agarwal

executive
#33

[Foreign Language].

Divyesh Vora

analyst
#34

Why I'm asking you is because at that time again, the interest cost will also be there.

Bijaykumar Agarwal

executive
#35

[Foreign Language].

Divyesh Vora

analyst
#36

I'm just very keen to know that when accuracy of that 11% to 12% will come, and what you are committing?

Bijaykumar Agarwal

executive
#37

[Foreign Language].

Divyesh Vora

analyst
#38

The first question was I asked, what is your outstanding in your working capital and term loan at this stage, maybe in December or maybe as on January also?

Bijaykumar Agarwal

executive
#39

[Foreign Language].

Divyesh Vora

analyst
#40

Would you able to pre-pay something, with your profits and everything?

Jaiprakash Agarwal

executive
#41

We have been doing this pre-payment.

Bijaykumar Agarwal

executive
#42

[Foreign Language].

Divyesh Vora

analyst
#43

[Foreign Language]

Bijaykumar Agarwal

executive
#44

[Foreign Language].

Soumya Chhajed

executive
#45

Next question is from Pratik Dedhia.

Pratik Dedhia

analyst
#46

[Foreign Language]

Bijaykumar Agarwal

executive
#47

[Foreign Language].

Soumya Chhajed

executive
#48

Next question is from Saket Kapoor.

Saket Kapoor

analyst
#49

[Foreign Language]

Bijaykumar Agarwal

executive
#50

[Foreign Language].

Jaiprakash Agarwal

executive
#51

Financial year 2027, we don't have much CapEx. [Foreign Language]. We want to say that Wada plant is also profitable now, because ramped up all the capacities there, so these numbers will definitely reflect in the next quarter.

Saket Kapoor

analyst
#52

[Foreign Language]

Bijaykumar Agarwal

executive
#53

[Foreign Language].

Jaiprakash Agarwal

executive
#54

[Foreign Language]. We will not leave anything behind. If IBC growth is coming up, definitely we will grab that first, and then MS drum also, we have the capacity. We have started MS drum plant in Wada. [Foreign Language]. Now we will start supplying from Wada, so definitely save on the cost. [Foreign Language].

Saket Kapoor

analyst
#55

[Foreign Language]

Bijaykumar Agarwal

executive
#56

[Foreign Language].

Saket Kapoor

analyst
#57

[Foreign Language]

Jaiprakash Agarwal

executive
#58

[Foreign Language]. We understand, you have been associated, and we have been doing all our best and that is why we have not planned much CapEx for next financial. Now it is the time for us to put, so this is what we have decided. We have been following that and we will ramp up all the capacity in all the segments, first.

Saket Kapoor

analyst
#59

[Foreign Language]

Bijaykumar Agarwal

executive
#60

[Foreign Language].

Soumya Chhajed

executive
#61

Next question is from Majid Ahamed.

Majid Ahamed

analyst
#62

Are we keeping the guidance intact? Are the benefits becoming visible for the new plant as well? What are the challenges you are seeing? When will we have the largely completed CapEx utilization for the [indiscernible] numbers?

Jaiprakash Agarwal

executive
#63

Our Wada plant is operational, and it is now coming at its peak production. This quarter, we are seeing good volumes. The plant is profitable also. This is a good achievement that within 6 months, we have got a profitable plant. Now, our capacity utilization at Wada also is improving about 60%, 65%. Plus, MS drum plant, we have just commissioned and that also we are ramping up and we have got good opportunity from the market. The demand is good. Prices are going up. This is the right opportunity to scale up the production and capacity utilization. This is what I can say right now.

Majid Ahamed

analyst
#64

What is your average realization for this quarter per metric tons?

Bijaykumar Agarwal

executive
#65

[Foreign Language].

Jaiprakash Agarwal

executive
#66

IBC is a mix of product, so it is difficult to answer that.

Bijaykumar Agarwal

executive
#67

[Foreign Language].

Majid Ahamed

analyst
#68

This quarter we have seen a very good improvement in the gross margins, due to increase in the other expenses or overhead, we have seen the margin being neutral.

Jaiprakash Agarwal

executive
#69

It is largely due to financial impact, which has not been offset by the benefit which was supposed to get from solar power plant. That is why you can see that difference. Generation is already there. It is getting banking with the government department. The moment we sign the agreement with them will start coming up in the -- probably in the next quarter, you will definitely see.

Majid Ahamed

analyst
#70

From next quarter, can we see the operating leverage coming up?

Jaiprakash Agarwal

executive
#71

Absolutely.

Majid Ahamed

analyst
#72

We are expecting around 10% to 11% EBITDA from next quarter onwards.

Bijaykumar Agarwal

executive
#73

[Foreign Language].

Majid Ahamed

analyst
#74

From Q1 FY '27, we can say?

Bijaykumar Agarwal

executive
#75

[Foreign Language].

Jaiprakash Agarwal

executive
#76

2027 will be a good year for us, for you and for everybody.

Soumya Chhajed

executive
#77

Next question is from Deepesh Sancheti.

Deepesh Sancheti

analyst
#78

Couple of questions. [Foreign Language]. How is the demand right now with, especially when the tariffs have been opened? [Foreign Language]?

Jaiprakash Agarwal

executive
#79

Demand is good. In fact, we are getting good demand volume from Wada also. This gives us the confidence that in coming months also, demand will be there. This is being -- this is the last quarter for the financial year, all the companies will ramp up their capacity utilization. Hopefully, this quarter definitely will be good for us also and for the other companies also.

Deepesh Sancheti

analyst
#80

I'm just saying that because the U.S. tariffs have been lowered now, most of the companies will start their exports from March. How is the demand? Because obviously, they will be placing orders with you then they will be able to [indiscernible].

Bijaykumar Agarwal

executive
#81

[Foreign Language].

Deepesh Sancheti

analyst
#82

[Foreign Language]

Bijaykumar Agarwal

executive
#83

[Foreign Language].

Deepesh Sancheti

analyst
#84

Soumya, if you can send me the IBC and polymer volume numbers, from Jai, it will be great.

Soumya Chhajed

executive
#85

Next question is from Ganesh Nagarsekar.

Ganesh Nagarsekar

analyst
#86

[Foreign Language]

Bijaykumar Agarwal

executive
#87

[Foreign Language].

Jaiprakash Agarwal

executive
#88

No. Liability will be there, but it will definitely start reducing, because now our recycling plant has also started, so it will be start reducing slowly and gradually as we increase our production recycling, it will start decreasing.

Ganesh Nagarsekar

analyst
#89

If you quantify, will it go from 1.5 to 0.5 or what would be the quantum of the decrease?

Jaiprakash Agarwal

executive
#90

That is difficult to [indiscernible] right now because we have not made any charge of that. We'll definitely get back to you on that if you need anything.

Ganesh Nagarsekar

analyst
#91

Broadly in terms of the cost, you said you save around INR 3 crores on solar for this quarter. Recycling, if you could quantify the benefit that would get in crores?

Jaiprakash Agarwal

executive
#92

As of now, I don't have the numbers exactly for recycling. We'll definitely get back to you.

Ganesh Nagarsekar

analyst
#93

The INR 3 crores GST benefit that we get, how does that get accounted in our books? Does it shows straight to the top line or how does it go? You said, you get a INT 3 crores GST benefit from the Wada plant.

Bijaykumar Agarwal

executive
#94

[Foreign Language].

Soumya Chhajed

executive
#95

Next question is from Saket Kapoor.

Saket Kapoor

analyst
#96

[Foreign Language]

Bijaykumar Agarwal

executive
#97

[Foreign Language].

Saket Kapoor

analyst
#98

[Foreign Language], the impetus to growth is there, and now it is for us to catapult on the capture the story going ahead, across all the vertices?

Jaiprakash Agarwal

executive
#99

Absolutely. It is time for us to prove now.

Soumya Chhajed

executive
#100

Then I think that was our last question for the call.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#101

I'm Manish [ Unka ]. [Foreign Language]?

Jaiprakash Agarwal

executive
#102

We will first focus on performance in the financial year.

Bijaykumar Agarwal

executive
#103

[Foreign Language].

Jaiprakash Agarwal

executive
#104

We have the space available, and the moment we think that we need to add certain machinery, it will not take much of a CapEx. We will start implementing and putting machines there.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#105

[Foreign Language]?

Jaiprakash Agarwal

executive
#106

Polymer drum and IBC's margins are more or less same, whether it is coming from Bharuch, whether it is coming from Wada. More capacity utilization, the better the margins are. [Foreign Language]. We will get an added benefit, which is coming from the price advantage, plus the solar benefits that will definitely add up whatever we are saying we'll achieve that.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#107

[Foreign Language]?

Bijaykumar Agarwal

executive
#108

[Foreign Language].

Jaiprakash Agarwal

executive
#109

[Foreign Language].

Soumya Chhajed

executive
#110

Next question is from Divyesh Vora.

Divyesh Vora

analyst
#111

2 things I want to ask. How is the recycling plants feedback? Or how is your take on that and the customers and the entire supply chain? How is it that...

Jaiprakash Agarwal

executive
#112

The recycling plant is now operational and it is 100% successful. We are doing our own recycling right now. In coming months or I would say, in coming days, we will start procuring from material from the outside from our customers. Then we will start producing this recycling material and start giving them solution, what customers are looking forward from us. We have been in advanced discussion with all our customers, and they are very excited about this project.

Divyesh Vora

analyst
#113

The entire benefits you are seeing that coming in '27?

Jaiprakash Agarwal

executive
#114

Yes. Definitely.

Divyesh Vora

analyst
#115

What is the volume growth and number growth you are anticipating in entire '27?

Bijaykumar Agarwal

executive
#116

[Foreign Language].

Divyesh Vora

analyst
#117

That will be at what capacity utilization will be Wada all inclusive, you are saying?

Bijaykumar Agarwal

executive
#118

[Foreign Language].

Soumya Chhajed

executive
#119

We'll take this as our last question, and I'll hand it over to Jai sir, for the closing remarks.

Jaiprakash Agarwal

executive
#120

Dear friends, thank you for your questions. Hopefully, we have answered all your questions to your satisfaction. Only one thing is that you have not seen the results as you expected, but then now we have ramped up all the capacity utilization, the CapEx has been done. From this quarter, the coming quarters, we will start giving you what you have desired. Hopefully, then you will come up and say, good result about it. That's all. I don't want to say anything more. Thank you so much.

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