RailTel Corporation of India Limited (RAILTEL.NS) Q2 FY2026 Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
October 30, 2025
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Operator
OperatorLadies and gentlemen, good day, and welcome to the Post Results Q2 FY '26 Earnings Conference Call of RailTel Corporation of India Limited. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this conference is being recorded. I now hand the conference over to Mr. Vishal Periwal from Antique Stockbroking. Thank you, and over to you, sir.
Vishal Periwal
AnalystsYes. Thanks, and a warm welcome to all the investors and analysts for the interaction with the management of RailTel Corporation of India Limited. And the team in RailTel in today's call is led by Mr. Sanjai Kumar ji, who is the Chairman and Managing Director; Mr. V. Rama Manohara Rao ji, who is Director of Finance; Mr. Manoj Tandon ji, Director, Projects, Operational Maintenance; and along with Manoj ji is Mr. H.C. Batra ji, who is Special ED Finance. So as usual, we'll have brief from the management on the gone by quarter, and then we'll have lines for a Q&A. Thank you, and over to you, Sanjai, sir.
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesThank you, Vishal ji, and a very good afternoon to all of you. It gives me great pleasure to interact with you on the company's performance in the backdrop of Q2 financial results of FY '26, which were declared by the company on 29th October 2025. The company achieved operating revenue of INR 951 crores in Q2 of FY '26 as against INR 744 crores in Q1 of FY '26, registering the Q-on-Q growth of 28%. The Telecom segment contributed INR 367 crores and Project segment contributed INR 584 crores in company's operating income. As regards the total revenue, the Q-on-Q growth is 27% with INR 966 crores in Q2 FY '26 as compared to INR 758 crores in Q1 of FY '26. The profit before tax in Q2 of FY '26 is INR 105 crores against INR 89 crores in Q1 of FY '26, registering a Q-on-Q growth of 18%. The profit after tax in Q2 of FY '26 is INR 76 crores as against INR 66 crores in Q1 of FY '26, registering a Q-on-Q growth of 15%. The company achieved total income of INR 1,724 crores in H1 of FY '25-'26 as compared to INR 1,440 crores during the corresponding period of last year, registering growth of 20%. PAT for the first half of '25-'26 was INR 142 crores as against INR 121 crores during the corresponding period of the last financial year with a growth of 17%. I'm happy to state that the Board of Directors of the company declared an interim dividend of INR 1 per share for FY '25-'26. Earnings per share in first half of FY '26 stands at INR 4.43 as against INR 3.78 of first half of FY '25, registering a year-on-year growth of 17%. Earnings per share in Q2 of FY '26 was INR 2.37 as against INR 2.06 of Q1 of FY '26, registering a Q-on-Q growth of 15%. The total order book of the company as on date is INR 8,251 crores. During financial year -- current financial year, the company received total orders of INR 3,317 crores, up to 30/09/2025, which is higher than total orders received during entire '24-'25. And almost 3x the orders received during H1 of '24-'25. Hence, the momentum created during Q4 of last year is continuing in the current year. The company is celebrating Silver Jubilee of its foundation in the current year, and this is true tribute to our celebration. I thank you very much for your trust and vision for the future of this company. Jai Hind.
Operator
Operator[Operator Instructions] The first question is from the line of Kumar Divyanshu who is an individual investor.
Unknown Attendee
AttendeesCongratulations for the very good set of numbers, sir. Basically, I have 1 or 2 questions. First question regarding the order book status. Could you please comment on that till Q2 FY '26? And the second question, like order inflow, whether you are having the order inflow in coming quarters or not? And the third is that please comment on the data center expansion or CapEx planning if you are having?
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesYour second question, can you please repeat once again?
Unknown Attendee
AttendeesYes. My second question was regarding the KAVACH and in the segment of data center. Could you please comment on that like if there is any progress or the company is planning to enter into the particular segment business? Likewise, anything is there? Or is there any plan from the management onward?
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesSo yes, total order book, I already told till end of second quarter. Exactly, I don't remember till the end of second quarter, but today, it is INR 8,251 crores. Today, it is INR 8,251 crores. And as you said, KAVACH so KAVACH, we are already doing work, 2 orders we have already won and they are under execution. And there are tenders where we are continuously applying whichever tenders are coming, we are, of course, participating in those tenders. On data center front, so data center -- one edge data center is already up in Gurgaon and the other one is under progress in Mumbai and maybe 1 or 2 we may be doing by the end of this year. On other data center progress is that we are -- we have already started working on developing 10-megawatt data center. So initially, it will be 5 megawatt, and then we will upgrade it to 10 megawatts, which is -- work has already started. Civil work has already started in Noida. I hope I have answered your questions.
Operator
Operator[Operator Instructions] The next question comes from the line of Mohit Mishra from ICICI Securities.
Mohit Mishra
AnalystsA couple of small questions. So out of the order book of INR 8,251 crores, what percentage is for railways?
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesSo if you ask railways, so railways share would be around -- it is about INR 800 crores is railways. So you can say around 10%.
Mohit Mishra
AnalystsAround 10%. Okay, sir. And sir, could you give me the breakup of telecom services revenue under M&D.
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesSorry, I'll just correct Sorry, just correct. Railway total will be around 22%, 22% -- and another telecom, if you put together telecom also, it will be around 25%.
Mohit Mishra
AnalystsOkay, sir. Okay. And sir, could you give me the breakup of telecom services revenue NLD, ISP and IP for the quarter?
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesYes. So NLD is around INR 153 crores. ISP is INR 111 crores and IP one is INR 29 crores. Total put together is INR 294 crores. This is core telecom revenue.
Mohit Mishra
AnalystsOkay, sir. Okay. Also, sir, the guidance that you gave in the last quarter call of 25% revenue growth and 11% to 12% margin, would you stick with it? Or is there any revision to the guidance?
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesThere's no revision. We stick to that.
Mohit Mishra
AnalystsThank you so much for answering the questions. And all the best for the coming quarters. Thank you.
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesThank you.
Operator
OperatorThe next question comes from the line of Viraj Mithani from Jupiter Financial.
Viraj Mithani
AnalystsCongratulations for the outstanding numbers.
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesThank you.
Viraj Mithani
AnalystsMy question is can you give me the composition of the order book which you have INR 250 crores you said...
Operator
OperatorI'm sorry to interrupt you, Mr. Viraj, your voice sounds very -- can you please speak into your handset?
Viraj Mithani
AnalystsIs this better?
Operator
OperatorNo, it's still a little distant.
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesI think it is better for me. You can...
Operator
OperatorOkay, sir.
Viraj Mithani
AnalystsYes. Sir, can you give me the composition of the order book, which you said of INR 8,250 crores would be...
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesYes. So roughly, I would say, around INR 3,700 crores is from various states around it's crores, 25% rather. So it's around INR 2000 crores, INR 2,000 crores is from railways. Then various PSUs is around close to slightly more than INR 900 crores. Various other government departments is around INR 750-plus crores. Financial sector is around INR 350 crores. Other railway PSUs also there. So all put together around another INR 350 crores is how it is distributed.
Viraj Mithani
AnalystsOkay. And sir, how is the revenue distributed from this order book? Like how is the execution done? Are there long orders or short cycle orders?
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesThey are mixed orders. They are all mixed orders. So a few of them, certainly they are CapEx based. So they will be like taking 1 or 2 years. A few of them, maybe another AMC is there, so they will be going 4, 5 years. So that is how they are. But exact time lines and all that, this is a slightly complex thing. So roughly, you can say that we should expect around INR 2,000 crores out of this order book getting converted into revenue.
Viraj Mithani
AnalystsThen every year, the INR 2,000 crores will be convert into revenue or something like that?
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesNo, I'm talking for first year. It will be graded over next year. And then certainly, first 2 years are more prominent for the current order book. As and when a new order comes. So generally, it is 12 to 18 months, 2 years time line when they are getting executed.
Viraj Mithani
AnalystsSo the major order gets executed in first 2 years and then it goes slowly and then gets reduced, that's how you...
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesCertainly, yes. So it is happening like that for previous years also. So new orders are getting added and the old orders are getting converted into revenue, yes. So this is a general trend anywhere else, I think.
Viraj Mithani
AnalystsYes. And sir, net margins will be 12%, that's what you said last time, you maintaining this or improvement further because of the orders more and more orders are getting?
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesSee, as I told when I answered last investor question that we will maintain around 11% to 12% only.
Viraj Mithani
AnalystsOkay. And any play we have in this IMEC corridor, which government is planning?
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesWhich one?
Viraj Mithani
AnalystsIMEC corridor, which is government is planning the big corridor, right?
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesI didn't get you. IIMC is what?
Viraj Mithani
AnalystsIIMC corridor, it's connecting from here to the Gulf states.
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesNo, no we are not -- not with us.
Viraj Mithani
AnalystsThank you sir. All the best. Jai Hind sir.
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesThank you.
Operator
Operator[Operator Instructions] The next question comes from the line of Axay Shah from Toro Wealth Managers.
Axay Shah
AnalystsCongratulations for good set of numbers. Sir, I'm new to the business. So I just want to understand that the 11% to 12% margin that we are talking about is PAT margin. And another thing that given our strong order book, are we ramping up our execution? And can we see the more growth ahead?
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesSo number one, it is not PAT margin. It is EBIT margin. It is not PAT. It is EBIT, right? So your next question is regarding.
Axay Shah
AnalystsSir, given our strong order book, are we ramping up our execution? And can we see more growth going forward?
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesSee, we are certainly venturing into new sectors, participating into more tenders. We are even now going abroad for new business opportunities, international business. Also, we are trying very hard. So certainly, we are gaining momentum, and we are sure that we will succeed.
Axay Shah
AnalystsAnd sir, what is the reason for this -- you are maintaining the decrease in the EBITDA margin. So are these cost pressure or we are going in different businesses, so there is the margin is different. Can you help me understand that?
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesSee, we have a mix of two business sectors. One is Telecom sector, the other is project business. So Project business, I've been consistently maintaining that we will be somewhere around 4% to 5%. And depending upon the revenue mix, the overall margin will fall in and around 11%. So Telecom business gives certainly much healthier margins, whereas Project is always competitive, you have to execute work and all that. So their margins are -- even 4% to 5% is considered a good margin in project business. We are trying to remain in that window.
Axay Shah
AnalystsAll the best for the future sir.
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesThank you.
Operator
Operator[Operator Instructions] The next question comes from the line of Mohit Mishra from ICICI Securities.
Mohit Mishra
AnalystsSir, I missed one question. Could you help me with the CapEx number for the quarter and the estimated CapEx for second half of the year?
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesSo I think if you are talking about CapEx, around INR 250 crores we'll be completing...
Unknown Executive
ExecutivesINR 62 crores in quarter 2. We have already booked.
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesYes, INR 62 crores we have already booked. Quarter 2. So we will be maintaining INR 250 crores around number.
Mohit Mishra
AnalystsINR 215 crores for the second half, right?
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesINR 250 crores, INR 250 crores. -- for the entire financial year, for the whole financial year.
Mohit Mishra
AnalystsOkay, sir. And INR 62 crores in Q2?
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesYes.
Operator
OperatorThe next question comes from the line of Maitri Shah from Sapphire Capital.
Maitri Shah
AnalystsYes. So first half, we surpassed our entire FY '25 order inflow, which is a great feat. So how do you see the second half panning out? Do we expect a similar order inflow happening close to around INR 3,000 crores in the second half of FY '26 as well?
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesSee expectations should always be on optimistic side. So we always expect we get good orders, higher number of orders. But there are so many factors. We are participating in tenders. We are winning. So sometimes it happens that we are -- we get some very good large value order also. So this year, in this quarter, we have got two such orders. That is the reason, and we are continuously increasing our intensity of participating in bids. So certainly, we expect that this momentum should continue.
Maitri Shah
AnalystsOkay. A follow-up on that. So the 2 large orders that we got. Could you quantify...
Operator
OperatorSorry to interrupt you, Ms. Maitri, can you please speak a little away from the mic. Your voice is getting muffled.
Maitri Shah
AnalystsYes, sure. Is this better?
Operator
OperatorYes, thank you.
Maitri Shah
AnalystsYes. The 2 large orders that we kind of won in the second quarter, what sort of -- like what was the amount for those, if I could get that? Per order?
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesI think yes. So one we got from Bihar state government for setting up the labs for schools, which is INR 822 crores, so that is one big order which we got this year, I think biggest ever. Another one, I think that was the KAVACH order, which we got last quarter for -- from East Central Railway. And others are similar. So this is really big INR 822 crores, and it's -- we want to create it as a model project delivery, which is -- which becomes a model for any government project we are doing.
Maitri Shah
AnalystsThat is great. Also on the global pipeline, as you said that you're looking for opportunities abroad. So any tenders in pipeline do we have? And could you quantify...
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesThere are a few opportunities. But since those opportunities are not finalized, so we can't divulge. Yes, we are working on a couple of good opportunities, though not a much bigger size, but to begin with, they are good numbers. We will certainly...
Maitri Shah
AnalystsWhich countries are we?
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesSo these are African countries and Caribbean countries.
Maitri Shah
AnalystsAfrica and Middle East, okay. And do we have...
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesNot Middle East. Caribbean, Caribbean, not Middle East. It is not Middle East.
Maitri Shah
AnalystsOkay. African Caribbean. And the pipeline, do we -- can we like give a number on what is the pipeline and what sort of win ratio do we have?
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesYou're talking of overall numbers?
Maitri Shah
AnalystsYes, like the order book and what sort of win ratio?
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesRoughly, our winning factor is around 20%.
Maitri Shah
AnalystsAnd the bidding pipeline?
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesBidding pipeline, exactly, I may have to -- it keeps going. So every day, people are calling. This is not -- is a number every day, people are bidding or finding new tenders. So I exactly don't have that number anyway.
Maitri Shah
AnalystsAny ballpark figure you could give on it?
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesSo you can just estimate that INR 3,000 crores we won in last 2 quarters. So certainly, we must have bidded for around 5x INR 15,000 crores roughly in 2 quarters. Because many tenders would have been bidded even last year also, sometimes. So it is just a number which I got and give it to you by just averaging.
Maitri Shah
AnalystsGot it. And also with such a big pipeline of orders that we already have won, do we expect FY '27 to be much -- on a much higher growth trajectory? Like are we targeting a 30%, 35% growth for FY '27?
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesIt's too premature to say anything about '27. But yes, certainly, conservatively, we will pursue no less than 20%, 25% of growth. see global scenario, global supply chains, those all uncertain factors might affect things any time. But I'm sure that with this kind of winning spree, which we are going, we will be -- we should be able to maintain at least 20%, 25% of growth.
Maitri Shah
AnalystsThat is it from my side. Thank you and all the best.
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesThank you.
Operator
OperatorThe next question comes from the line of Nayan Thakker from Investec.
Nayan Thakker
AnalystsI had two questions. Sir, I have noted that telecom EBIT on a segmental basis has seen an improvement in margins in the current quarter. If you could help us with what exactly can be the sustainable level of margins in the Telecom Services segment? That is the first question. And the second question, sir, I have is if you could just guide us to the broad revenue mix between the 2 segments for the year between Telecom Services and Project Services.
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesOkay. So first, I will answer your second question. 39% and 61%, that is the ratio between Telecom and project Business, right? Second question about this -- you are asking margins in Telecom in this quarter. So the number being very small, so certainly, our margin is going to remain in 30%, 35% only. This is one-off even because number are small and quarter is also a small period, but the margin is going to remain in 30%, 35% overall over a long period.
Nayan Thakker
AnalystsSir, just a follow-up. On the Telecom services, I guess, in quarter 1, the EBIT was 20.5% and in quarter 2, it was 27.9%. So sorry, 30%, 35%. Are you saying we should expect an increase going forward?
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesI'm talking of EBITDA. If you're talking of EBIT, you are right. I'm talking of EBITDA. So the numbers are different we are talking about.
Nayan Thakker
AnalystsUnderstood, sir. Understood. Got it. And just a follow-up on the revenue share number you mentioned. So can -- will we see a further reduction in the telecom revenue share going forward in '27 and '28? Or can we maintain a broad 40-60, if you could just provide some guidance.
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesBroadly for some time to come, 40-60 more or less. We have started, as I've been saying that we are trying to get more telecom business, though competition is very tough and price pressures are very high. But we have started getting some successes. So despite Project business going at much higher pace with some more revenue growth coming in from telecom sector, we should maintain 40-60, in and around 40-60.
Nayan Thakker
AnalystsUnderstood, sir. And sorry, sir, if I can just squeeze in one question. If we talk of the segmental results of the telecom services on an EBIT level, if you could just provide some color on that margin, please, on a sustainable basis, while you did mention on an EBITDA level, but if you could just help me with the same on the EBIT level?
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesSame 21%, 22%.
Nayan Thakker
AnalystsUnderstood. Thank you very much and all the best for the next -- the remaining quarters.
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesThank you.
Operator
OperatorThe next question comes from the line of Viraj Mithani from Jupiter Financial.
Viraj Mithani
AnalystsThis composition of the order book, the 40% is Telecom and the rest is Project. Is that the correct way to think?
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesYou are talking about order book, I'm talking about revenue. I think your question is about order book.
Viraj Mithani
AnalystsYes. What proportion of the project and the telecom and the order book?
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesOrder book, I think this question, I might not be having answer immediately because the whole Project business, yes, they have both mix. So I might have to really segregate the... But certainly, project business order book is higher. Telecom new order book would be around 13% to 14% new order book.
Viraj Mithani
AnalystsOkay. And sir, my next question is, can you give color on this data center business, like what sort of revenue we will get from this data center?
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesI would like to clarify. Generally, Telecom order book is generally yearly, whereas Project is spread over many years, 3, 4, 5 years. So actually, it's very difficult to make it out like what is the actual impact on yearly revenue. Sorry, just wanted to make it more clear to the investors. Now please tell your next question.
Viraj Mithani
AnalystsColor on the data center business, like how is the revenue plan, what will be the margins for data? And what is the future potential for data center business? Can you give some color on that?
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesData center business is doing very good. In fact, -- we had recently a few months back, we had signed an MOU with TCS, and we are using their sovereign data center platform also for providing services to government. And soon, we will be using their platform also. We are coming up with our own data center in Noida, which is investors basically PPP model. Work has already started. It will take around maybe another 1.5 we have -- we really have a very good growth opportunity, and we are eagerly waiting to basically make a strong foothold in this sector because there's a lot of growth opportunity, data center you've been reading in newspapers also.
Viraj Mithani
AnalystsRight, sir. And what percentage of the revenue from right now, sir, in data center business would be?
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesRight now, it would be INR 150 crores numbers kind of numbers in annual. Last year, it was INR 127 crores. Out of INR 3,500 crores -- so it is not a very big number, but yes, it will grow.
Viraj Mithani
AnalystsOkay. And what percent it will be 30%, 40% growth year-to-year like that or maybe more?
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesYou can -- yes, we must expect 30% to 40%.
Operator
OperatorThe next question comes from the line of Shubham Shelar from Antique Stockbroking.
Shubham Shelar
AnalystsSo only one question, sir, regarding exceptional item during the quarter of around INR 16 crores, does it come under ECL provision?
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesYes. This is ECL only. Your voice is not clear. Anyway, you wanted to say something else?
Shubham Shelar
AnalystsNo, sir. That's it.
Operator
OperatorNext up, we have Mr. Vishal Periwal from Antique Stockbroking.
Vishal Periwal
AnalystsCan you hear me now? Is it better?
Operator
OperatorYour voice still sounds a little muffled.
Vishal Periwal
AnalystsSir, one is in terms of our order book Yes, sorry. One is in terms of order book, is it fair to say largely -- I mean, like it's state government, central government and departments, we don't have any major private sector contribution as of now?
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesYou are right, not major private sector.
Vishal Periwal
AnalystsGot it. And in terms of data centers, whatever we have currently, what could be utilization rate right now?
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesIf you ask our data centers, which is very small capacity, so we are nearly 60% to 70% already utilized. That is why we are tying up with other and developing new data centers.
Vishal Periwal
AnalystsOkay. Okay. Got it. Got it. And sir, you have also given the breakup of this Telecom revenue breakup in the quarterly. But in terms of -- I mean, total to almost like INR 293 crores, INR 294 crores, but what we have reported in segmental is a higher number. So what could be the difference here?
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesActually, it includes ICT revenue also, which includes other than non-telecom, basically not pure telecom. So there are 2 -- there are license income, an ISP and IP one. And there are -- in our Telecom income segment, there is data center segment is also included. That is why you will see that.
Vishal Periwal
AnalystsGot it. Got it. But earlier, we were booking everything in Telecom. Is it fair to say?
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesNo. Even now data center is not a separate segment.
Vishal Periwal
AnalystsOkay. Okay. So it's part of IP?
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesNo, no. IP one is separate, and now we call it ICT revenue.
Vishal Periwal
AnalystsGot it. And similarly, sir, can you give a revenue breakup of Project side also, the Project services?
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesProject, if you talk to railway and non-railway. So then INR 134 crores from railways and INR 249 crores from other than railway.
Vishal Periwal
AnalystsGot it. Got it. And maybe one last thing. It could be a repetition only. I think though you have answered. But in terms of -- if one has to understand, we are getting pretty good order inflow. If one has to take an understanding like any particular sector, anything that is driving it, can we like put it in some sort of bucket that will help us like to gauge and that will be helpful.
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesYes. Actually, so we are working in digitalization initiatives. Most of our SI projects, system integration projects belong to digitalization initiatives of various departments, irrespective of any particular sector, be it health, be it education, be it mining, be it any other. So generally, it is not concentrated in one. But yes, recent orders, which you see in these 2 quarters, it is education sector.
Vishal Periwal
AnalystsRight, right. And then maybe one last thing. Although you have mentioned, I mean, private sector order book contribution is negligible as of now. But it is fair to say whatever orders that we have, they are all on competitive bidding, where private, public, all players, including us, we compete. That's fair. There's no nomination contract.
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesSo competitive, if you say, so roughly around 70%, 75% of our orders are competitive. Few are from nomination.
Vishal Periwal
AnalystsGot it, sir. Got it. And nomination will be largely focused on the railway side?
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesNo, there are other than railways also. It is not necessarily railway only.
Operator
OperatorAs there are no further questions, with this, we would now conclude the call. On behalf of Antique Stockbroking, that concludes this conference. Thank you for joining us, and you may now disconnect your lines. Thank you.
Sanjai Kumar
ExecutivesThank you.
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