RaySearch Laboratories AB (publ) ($RAYB)
Earnings Call Transcript · April 29, 2026
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Carolina Stromlid
ExecutivesWelcome to RaySearch presentation of the First Quarter 2026. My name is Carolina Stromlid, and I'm Head of Investor Relations. As usual, our CEO and Founder, Johan Lof; and our CFO, Nina Gronberg, will walk you through the key highlights and financial results of the quarter. After the presentation, we will open the floor for questions. Simply raise your hand in Teams to ask a question live. And with that short introduction, I will now hand over to you, Johan.
Johan Löf
ExecutivesThank you, Carolina, and welcome again, everyone. I apologize for my voice. I have a cold, as you can tell. Before we dive into the results and highlights, let me start with a quick overview of RaySearch business. So RaySearch is a pure software company, and we focus on software for cancer treatment. And we have 4 different platforms, RayStation, RayCare, RayIntelligence and RayCommand. What we see here is a schematic view of a comprehensive cancer center. Although RaySearch has been focused on radiation therapy for the first 25 years, we are now about to expand into the other areas of cancer therapy into chemotherapy, surgery and liver ablation, for example. So everything that goes on in a comprehensive cancer center will be supported by RaySearch software in the future. I think it's important to look at the long-term performance of RaySearch. This diagram shows the revenue all the way back from 2008. And you can see here that it's been a steady growth every year, except for the 2 pandemic year 2020 and 2021. In this graph, we also see the support revenues and how they are steadily growing year-over-year. I would also like to show another view of the same thing basically, where we also look for every year at the revenues for the individual quarters. And as you can see for many of these years, there are fluctuations between quarters. We can look at 2017, for example, it fluctuates. But nevertheless, there is a growth for the full 12 months. Another example can be 2022. You see fluctuations, somewhat weaker Q2. But when you take all the quarters together, again, growth. 2024, the same thing. And 2025 has a similar situation. So this is nothing unusual for RaySearch. There are, of course, underlying revenues from the support about 40-plus percent and many smaller orders are the foundation for the revenue for every quarter. But whether the quarter is really good or bad, depends on a few bigger deals. It can be 2, 3, 4 different deals that determine whether the quarter is great or not, and they can fall either within the quarter or they slip to the next quarter or the quarter after that. But this shows a very long track record for many, many years that even though there are fluctuations between quarters, the growth over the 12 month period happens anyway. So I just want to highlight that given that we had a softer quarter this quarter. All right. So Q2 in brief. Profitability remained robust despite the softer net sales in the first quarter. Net sales declined by 12% to SEK 290 million. It was mainly due to stronger Swedish crown and a tough comparison with last year, which included a large order for carbon ions from China. So the organic growth was a negative 5%. But as I mentioned, there were a number of deals that we thought would come into this quarter, but they didn't simply. It's a timing effect and it will come in, in Q2 or Q3 at the latest. And one example of an order around SEK 15 million that was stuck, it was ordered and then the purchase order was signed, but it was stuck in the Chinese customs. And that's something that was very unfortunate and not something we can control. So that order is already in now as an example. The recurring support revenue continued to provide stability, amounting to SEK 123 million or 42% of total revenue. Operating profit reached SEK 68 million, corresponding to an operating margin of 23%, in line with last year. Some business highlights. The demand remained steady during the first quarter with high customer activity across our markets. We secured several strategically important deals, including 3 new RayCare orders in key markets. We received our first RayCare order in China, together with an order for RayStation for proton therapy at the -- facility at the Shanghai Proton and Heavy Ion Center. The solution will support an upright proton therapy system, which is a cost-effective pathway for clinics to introduce proton therapy. The order is an important milestone for us in this large and growing market. In France, Institut Hartmann chose to replace its existing treatment planning and oncology information systems, Eclipse and ARIA, which are both from Varian with RayStation and RayCare, enabling a unified workflow across a mixed treatment machine environment. And this was our first RayCare order in France. In Germany, several clinics selected RayStation to replace Pinnacle for treatment planning, and we continue to see business opportunities ahead of that system's planned end of life in 2027. We're also proud that the first patients were treated with RayStation in Ukraine during the quarter, as an important step in modernizing radiotherapy under very challenging circumstances in this country. I will now hand over to Nina to go through the financial development in more detail.
Nina Gronberg
ExecutivesThank you, Johan. The quarter 1 sales numbers may give the picture that business is slowing down. But as you've heard from Johan, that's not the case. Order intake dropped 13% compared to last year. It was affected by currency and in relation to a very strong comparison quarter with above 70% growth. The activity from our customers and in our sales team remains on a high level. The book-to-bill ratio was 1.2 and order backlog end of March amounted to SEK 1.615 billion, and SEK 624 million of those is expected to turn into net sales in the next 12 months. Moving forward to net sales and EBIT. Net sales was down 12% in the first quarter. More than half of the downturn is related to a weaker Swedish krona in 2026, although quarter 1 last year was a quarter when the value of U.S. dollar, euro and several currencies started to fall. The organic growth was minus 5%, again, in relation to a strong first quarter 2025 and to raise such normal fluctuation. And as Johan mentioned, we had revenue that got stuck in customs in China and for other reasons, delayed into later quarters. License sales decreased with 24% and support sales with 1% year-on-year. Taking away currency effects from support numbers, the growth would have been 8%. Despite the lower sales, EBIT was solid at SEK 68 million, and the margin amounted to 23%, which is the same level as last year. We have approximately 20% of our costs in U.S. dollar. And together with good cost control and slightly higher R&D capitalization rate, operating costs were stable. In the 2026 quarter 1, currency gains from revaluation of working capital gave us a positive SEK 10 million effect. The rolling 12 development graph over net sales and EBIT, as you see in this picture, is tipping down a bit in the 2026 first quarter. As you can see, it also did in quarter 2 last year, just to turn upwards again in the next quarter and then continue its pathway upwards. The rolling 12 EBIT margin amounts to 22%. Moving on to the next slide and the revenue split. As Johan said, the support revenue was 42% of total revenue. That is a slightly bigger part than we usually have, and that is related to the lower license sales in the quarter. The lack of growth in support revenue was, as mentioned, mainly due to currency. And we also had some periodization effects from a couple of contracts that gave us a lower number in the first quarter. And I want to highlight here that those periodization effects -- it doesn't mean that we lose any revenue. It just means that revenue is sometimes moved between the quarters. The next slide and the cash flow. The underlying performance in cash flow was good in the first quarter, and we had about SEK 30 million inflow from contract assets. However, this positive effect was offset by an active choice to pre-purchased inventory, something we did in order to mitigate effects from price increases in hardware. It is servers and computer that we normally buy upon order and transfer almost instantly to the customer. Cash balance end of the quarter amounted to SEK 439 million, and cash flow remains an important focus area also going forward. And with this, I'll hand over to Johan [Technical Difficulty] adaptive.
Johan Löf
ExecutivesYes. So online adaptive is a very hot topic in radiotherapy right now. Online adaptive in general allows you to modify the treatment when the patient is on the treatment couch and you take an image of the patient in treatment position, check the changes in anatomy and then you change the plan to adapt for those changes. So a very strong feature here is that we have with the combination of RayCare, [Technical Difficulty] deliver online adaptive on this machine. So I'm going to show you in a very simplified manner here, the workflow surrounding such an online adaptive treatment. So we have a patient here, as you see to the right on the treatment couch and there is a TrueBeam. We also see the control room where an operator has screens, for example, RayCare and RayStation. And if you zoom in on the RayCare screen here, we look at the treatment course for this particular patient whose name is Thomas Fisher. We switch to the treatment calendar. And this particular clinic has 3 different machines, a proton machine, Proteus ONE, a Radixact from Accuray and 2 different TrueBeams from Varian. And you see the various time slots here for the different machines. We zoom in on Thomas Fisher is on an online adaptive protocol. So the first thing we do is to ask the TrueBeam to acquire cone beam CT image, which is a 3-dimensional image of the patient in the treatment position. And via the existing interface between RayCare and TrueBeam called VTI, we can transfer that image and administration back to RayCare. Then the operator opens the adaptive pre-planning module in RayStation and start that adaptive workflow. The first step is to correct that image that we receive from the machine because it's not of the same quality as a diagnostic CT image. You see to the right is the image that is transferred from the machine, generated by the machine. To the left, you see a corrected cone beam CT image. We have used the diagnostic CT to extend the image outside of the field of view of the cone beam CT imaging system. And we have also refined it using information from that diagnostic CT image. You see that the left image is sharper than the right image. So that's the first step. Second step is to use AI or in this case deep learning algorithm for segmentation of the structures. So that's done very rapidly in a few seconds, is that completed. After that, the dose is calculated on today's image or today's patient anatomy. And that's what you see to the left. So to the right, you see the dose distribution that was -- the planned dose distribution, let's say, the dose distribution that the doctor signed on. And the tumor here is the white contour that you see, that's the clinical target volume that we want to irradiate. And there's a perfect match here between the high-dose region, which is red and the shape of the tumor. And then it drops off -- the dose distribution drops off very quickly towards the healthy tissue surrounding. But if you look at the right or -- the left image, there has been some shifts in the geometry. So if you apply the same beams for -- on today's patient geometry, you see it doesn't really hit the tumor. There is an underdosage in some part of the tumor up here at the top left part of the tumor. And there is an overdosage outside of the tumor in the lower right parts. That is also illustrated by the dose volume histograms. It should look like the dash curve here for the tumor, but it is actually like the solid line, which signifies an underdosage of the tumor. And the other dose volume histograms illustrate overdosage of rectal and bladder. We can also look at the clinical goals here for the plan that the radiation oncologists have approved and all green lights with all the clinical goals. But now this treatment would have some red lights here. So we're not happy with that. So the next step is then to recompute [Technical Difficulty] the geometry of today. And you can see on the left how the dose distribution is now shaped according to this new geometry. And I will now, in a few seconds here, wrap around the -- and then conform very well to that new geometry. Yes, now it's done. So what we can see here are a couple of things. Now the dose distribution, the high-dose region is perfectly matching the tumor shape again, and we get good protection of the rectal down here and also the bladder on top. The dose volume histograms for the tumor are overlapping. So we have the same tumor coverage again as we had for the originally approved plan and it's all green lights. Okay. So now we're done with the adaptation. I talked a lot now here in reality from -- when we get the first images that you showed -- that you saw in the beginning that were imported into RayCare. The procedure that I talked about after that, creating a synthetic CT, applying deep learning segmentation to get the structures and then compute an adaptive plan, that whole procedure takes about 4 to 5 seconds. So it's much more rapid. I had to stop and explain what was going on. But in a realistic setting, this can be done in under a minute because the patient is on the couch, we want this to be quick so that we can treat the patient as soon as possible. So the next step here is that we assign, we say we're going to assign this adaptive plan. And RayCare will transfer that adaptive plan via the VTI interface to the machine. And the machine will deliver this adapted plan to the patient. It's a dual arc VMAT plan, so it makes 2 rotations around the patient, one like that and then the second arc is coming here. So that is how effective online adaptive can be on a TrueBeam. We expect the first retreatment to be done in this exact way in a couple of weeks in Belgium. So that will be a very important milestone for RayCare. All right. So to summarize, the first quarter was softer in terms of net sales, as we have seen, while profitability remained robust. Demand for integrated and automated workflows in cancer care remains strong and are supported by a solid sales pipeline. There is a growing interest in online adaptive solutions. And as I said, we expect the first online adaptive treatments with a combination of RayStation, RayCare and TrueBeam to happen within the next couple of weeks. I'm also confident that we reach our operating margin target of at least 25% for the full year 2026. And to underline our long-term financial commitment, the Board has decided on a new operating margin target, which is at least 30% for full year 2028. With innovative software, strong customer relationships, a global footprint and a growing base of recurring revenues, RaySearch is well positioned for continued profitable growth. And we will now open for questions, and I will hand the word over to Carolina.
Carolina Stromlid
ExecutivesYes. We will start the Q&A with live questions. [Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Kristofer Liljeberg at DNB Carnegie.
Kristofer Liljeberg-Svensson
AnalystsA follow-up on what you said here about online adaptive. So when do you expect to have the FDA approval for RayCare online adaptive with TrueBeam available?
Johan Löf
ExecutivesWe expect to have that in the fall, around October time frame this year.
Kristofer Liljeberg-Svensson
AnalystsOkay. And is that delayed from before or?
Johan Löf
ExecutivesYes, perhaps. We -- it's a complex FDA situation with several different versions of both RayStation and RayCare that are sort of in the pipeline at the same time. So there are dependencies between these versions, and that is -- that's where we are now. But it will still be clear to U.S. customers when the first treatment with online adaptive RayCare, RayStation, TrueBeam happens in Europe, they will be well aware of that. And these are improvements within existing modules. There are 3 modules in RayStation that support -- that you need to do this adaptive, the thing that I showed in the presentation. And you can purchase those already now. And then when the version is FDA approved, people -- everyone who has those modules and they're all on support contracts, they will be upgraded to that version and that they will have that capability right away.
Kristofer Liljeberg-Svensson
AnalystsAnd do you see that U.S. customers are happy to start acquiring RayCare before the approval for this purpose?
Johan Löf
ExecutivesYes, I think they can. And some customers already have this capability with RayCare or RayStation. So they will have access to it when it's -- they can start to use it clinically once approved.
Kristofer Liljeberg-Svensson
AnalystsOkay. So how do you view RayCare orders picking up here throughout the year? Would you expect some improved momentum outside the U.S. once you have done the first treatments and then U.S. lately?
Johan Löf
ExecutivesWe already see a better momentum than last year. So we had -- I think we had 4 RayCare orders full year 2025, and we have 3 orders already in Q1 2026. And so we will start to ramp up now during 2026 and more in 2027, but you see already finally that starting to show some good momentum.
Kristofer Liljeberg-Svensson
AnalystsAnd I agree with you. I think the concept of online adaptive and what you could do here with RayCare, of course, lowers the entry barriers. Do you see a potential for this online adaptive concept to accelerate the RaySearch growth in the coming years?
Johan Löf
ExecutivesI really think it has that potential because it is a very obvious thing that you want to do, everyone -- I mean, it was very clear when I showed to you here what the benefit is. And we are extremely well positioned in this field. Historically, we've been very strong in online adaptive and sort of the whole company started around adaptive to begin with 25 years ago. So yes, I think this can have overall a very positive impact on RaySearch. And in combination also with all the new vendors that are coming into play with Hitachi's OXRAY and Leo Cancer Care's Grace and all these new machines. And they all want to do -- enable online adaptive together with us.
Kristofer Liljeberg-Svensson
AnalystsGood. And then one question on the R&D capitalization that's higher this quarter versus previously, both in absolute terms, but also as a percentage of sales, I think it was like 6% of sales Q1, and it has been more like 1% to 3% in recent quarters. So how should we think about this coming quarters for the full year? And what type of impact will capitalization have on the 25% margin target for this year?
Nina Gronberg
ExecutivesYes. To answer your first question, when you put it in relation to sales, you must also take into consideration that sales was a bit lower this month that, of course, higher the rate. But besides that, I mean, we had more hours that was spent on the projects that we capitalized in quarter 1. I don't see any special pattern in that. It can vary between the quarters. But of course, I mean, we have increased the number of employees that work within R&D. So that means that we have higher expenses and with that, a higher amount of capitalizations. But I think that in general, I would say that we will keep the same. Approximately, we capitalized 70% of the expenses. And I think that we will keep that rate also going forward with some fluctuations between the quarters.
Kristofer Liljeberg-Svensson
AnalystsSo for the full year, do you think it's fair to assume a similar around 1% of sales as we have seen in both, I think, [ 20% ] yes, in the last 3 years actually.
Nina Gronberg
ExecutivesDo you mean expenses or capitalization? I think it's hard to...
Kristofer Liljeberg-Svensson
AnalystsWhat I mean -- yes, but the net effect of capitalization, that has been around 1% of sales recent years. Now it was 6% this quarter. I know there's a seasonal effect was higher in Q1 also last year. But I'm just wondering because if you look at the full year targets, if you start capitalizing more, it's, of course, super easy for you to reach the 25% margin, just to make sure that's not what's happening here.
Nina Gronberg
ExecutivesNo. We will not reach the margin due to capitalization. And as I said, I think we will continue to capitalize about 70% of the expenses and the expenses will increase as we add employees into the R&D function and as we had. Is that...
Johan Löf
Executives[indiscernible] also increase.
Nina Gronberg
ExecutivesYes. I mean, yes, since we do capitalize more because we have increased the R&D function, that will, of course, mean that the depreciations in the next coming year will increase as well.
Carolina Stromlid
ExecutivesOur next question comes from Oscar Bergman at Redeye.
Oscar Bergman
AnalystsOkay. The question I have first off is a bit speculative. So I suspect maybe you won't be able to answer, but I have to ask. The updated financial target of at least 30% EBIT margin by 2028. That's, I think, in line with analyst consensus and at least confirming my own. But I'm wondering what would be needed for you to go beyond 30%?
Johan Löf
ExecutivesWell, it's just more sales.
Oscar Bergman
AnalystsAnd would that be RayCare sales specifically? Or could it be done with just RayStation?
Johan Löf
ExecutivesIt would be RayStation, RayCare and RayCommand.
Oscar Bergman
AnalystsOkay. And then you mentioned some other order delays in Q1. Just wondering if you can give some background to the reason for this or if we should just consider it business as usual.
Johan Löf
ExecutivesYes, it's business as usual in the sense that the customs situation in China was one very specific thing. But in the other cases, it's just that the -- maybe the signing procedure wasn't completed on the right, on the correct day, that is within a quarter, but it was postponed into the next quarter and things like that. So this is -- I think we had an unusual number of -- something happened here with the presentation. So sometimes we're unlikely on several of these orders sort of we missed the end of the quarter. So it's not the first time this happens. But we are very vulnerable. It looks like -- it looks much worse than it actually is. If you look historically, it has happened many, many times, but then you zoom out 12 months, and then it's extremely robust in terms of growth.
Oscar Bergman
AnalystsYes, I agree. And I'm not sure if you mentioned any Pinnacle conversion in the report or the conference call. Maybe you did, maybe I zoomed out. But just wondering if you can define maybe the percentage of sales that came from converting clinics and if we should expect that the conversion window could be closed sometime during Q3 or very early in Q4 at the latest?
Johan Löf
ExecutivesThe Pinnacle was 22%, right, in Q1.
Nina Gronberg
ExecutivesYes, of license sales.
Johan Löf
ExecutivesOf license sales. On the software license sales, it was 22%. And I think it will continue throughout the whole year, the Pinnacle replacements because there are many deals still ongoing. We've been very successful in Germany converting Pinnacle, but there are still deals left out there still in the U.S. So I think it will continue all the way into the end of the year, actually.
Oscar Bergman
AnalystsInteresting. I just have 2 more quick questions, if that's okay. I think in the Q3 report, you initiated the 6 months prior period campaign with certain customers and you opened up the additional modalities. So just any sort of status update on this would be appreciated.
Johan Löf
ExecutivesYes, it's -- we only have the 2 pilot regions still, which is Benelux and U.K. It has been very well received in both regions. I think in Benelux, they are more active on this and they -- I mean, they spend the time to -- because it takes time for them to evaluate as well. In the U.K., they're happy about the offer, but they have less time whenever they work to spend time on this. Of course, they should because it's a good investment on their side. We have learned also that it takes some effort from our side to train on these new functionalities that we open up so that they can get a good experience when they try it, we have to train them in using these functionalities. So I think it was a good approach actually to do it in a limited fashion to start with so that we learn. It was more complex than we had anticipated. But so far, so good, I would say.
Oscar Bergman
AnalystsOkay. So we'll now go back to sort of the sketching table and do some tweaks or will you expand the campaign to do...
Johan Löf
ExecutivesWhat happened there? Yes, basically so. Yes, I would say, yes.
Oscar Bergman
AnalystsOkay. I think someone else is on the line. Okay. Just the final question, Johan. You have a very strong market share in photon therapy. I'm just curious about what the other players are doing here to increase in their market share? Or are they maybe not focusing on this area for some reason?
Johan Löf
ExecutivesYes. I think the others are simply not very focused on this. We don't see much competition in this area. I know it's only Elekta, Varian that are involved here. Varian left proton therapy in a sense when they -- well, when they canceled their machine production, the ProBeam. I think they may -- and then sort of the Eclipse support of protons also faded away. I think they are maybe returning. I'm not sure. I think Elekta won a proton order somewhere for treatment planning recently. But we still have almost 100%, I would say, of the new sales for the treatment planning is from RaySearch. Yes, it's still a great area for us, a great segment for us to be active in, and we focus really hard on that, and we work with all the different proton vendors, and there are many that we support. There's a lot of activity in this field all over the world, but mainly in Asia. China, they have a plan to build 100 particle centers, a combination of, well, I think 70% protons only and 30%, including carbon ions. So they have a very high ambition. And Korea, Japan, these countries -- Taiwan, they are building particle centers, a lot of particle centers, which is very good for us.
Carolina Stromlid
ExecutivesNext, we have Mattias Vadsten from SEB.
Mattias Vadsten
AnalystsCan you hear me?
Johan Löf
ExecutivesYes.
Mattias Vadsten
AnalystsGreat. So I have a question on France order that you talked about. So if you could elaborate a little bit on the key reason for them to replace the Varian software suite. And also, I wonder if their Hartmann's Halcyon system will be affected by this change of software? And also, when do you expect integration with Halcyon with RayCare to be possible, sort of seamless integration?
Johan Löf
ExecutivesYes. Okay. So this is, let's say, medium-sized center. They have, I believe, 2 different -- 2 CyberKnifes from Accuray. They have 1 TrueBeam from Varian and 3 Halcyons from Varian. So 6 machines in total. The total order was, I believe, SEK 35 million. There will be a phased approach with -- and we only recognized, I think, SEK 11 million of that in Q1. And then we recognize as -- yes, the rest is coming later. So they will go live with CyberKnife -- RayCare combined with CyberKnife and TrueBeam beginning of next year and then the 3 Halcyon beginning of 2028. The interoperability work or the interoperability project between RayCare and Halcyon is ongoing with Varian as we're working together on that. There is no definite time line yet. So I would prefer not to communicate that now. But for sure, before they need to start beginning of 2028. And yes, so why did they choose? Why did they switch? I think there were several reasons. They're very happy with the level of automation in both RayCare, RayStation with scripting and other means and streamlined workflows and especially since they have non-Varian machines as well, the 2 CyberKnifes I think that helps. So yes, I think they believe in the power of this bundle of RayStation, RayCare and also the vision going forward for this software. And it's a very important order for us. We're very happy that we got it.
Mattias Vadsten
AnalystsOkay. But it's fair to say they would never switch if it wasn't for the latest news flow around RayCare, TrueBeam.
Johan Löf
ExecutivesNo, I think that was -- this is a direct consequence of the interoperability between -- and that's an important factor, of course, that's an enabler. And that's a requirement, but that will not in itself be enough for them to switch, but it really opens up the door when we have the interoperability in place for TrueBeam. And then we also have a plan for Halcyon.
Mattias Vadsten
AnalystsGood. And then my next question is regarding growth. So it's been a lot of discussion around Q1, but just sort of what makes you confident to go back to solid growth rates already in Q2 here?
Johan Löf
ExecutivesI think I've tried to answer that over and over again that you cannot -- I mean, if you fool yourself, if you look at a single quarter for RaySearch. There are a few deals that determine the sort of the quality of the quarter, and they can end up on either side of the quarter. And -- so that's what it is. And we have such a good track record, if you believe history at all, look at what has happened during -- since all the way -- even further back. The reason why we picked 2008 was that we got the first revenues from RayStation in 2009. We could go even further back, and we still have this very steady growth and fluctuations in quarters. So that's -- with the current license model, that's what we have to live with. And either people understand that or they don't understand that. I don't think it's so difficult to understand, but it seems to be very difficult. And yes, if we had a subscription model, then this would be much smoother, but we don't because our customers don't want that right now. And most of them don't want that. So we adapt. And either you look at RaySearch on a 12 month or a 24 month window, then everything is fine or you focus on the quarter and then you have to be nervous on the time.
Mattias Vadsten
AnalystsLast one from me would be, do you have any worry that growth will fade off in 2027, specifically due to the vacuum created from Pinnacle contribution fading off for you?
Johan Löf
ExecutivesAbsolutely not.
Carolina Stromlid
ExecutivesWe will now take a question from Magnus Burnett.
Unknown Analyst
AnalystsYes. My question was partly answered, but I would like to know about the EBIT margin expected to reach 30% by 2028. If you could give me the detail for how such a margin improvement will be achieved? And could I assume that the margin improvement will be gradual? Or will it mirror the ramp-up of RayCare?
Johan Löf
ExecutivesNo, I cannot say anything else than that we will have at least 30% EBIT margin in 2028, full year 2028. It will not -- and it will be gradual increase of margin. But I don't see I can give you more details on exactly how that will be achieved.
Unknown Analyst
AnalystsOkay. Secondly, I would also like to ask because you have this change in the Board since Günther Mårder, like -- are going to a trial. And I just wonder if it will not be convicted, will he be welcome back to the Board?
Johan Löf
ExecutivesThat's a good question. I haven't thought about that at this stage. But I think it's -- as I said before, it's very unfortunate what has happened. I really like Günther Mårder as a person. So of course, this is awful. He is not convicted yet. We have to keep that in mind. So -- but I think that's all I have to say regarding that at the moment.
Carolina Stromlid
ExecutivesWe have 2 written questions also. The first one is, what is the status of the Ortega order? When will the RayCare delivery take place? And in which quarter will it be invoiced?
Nina Gronberg
ExecutivesYes. So in quarter 1, we delivered RayStation to 2 Ortega sites. And RayCare delivers to those 2 sites is planned for quarter 3 and quarter 4.
Carolina Stromlid
ExecutivesAnd the next question is...
Johan Löf
ExecutivesWe can add to that. So those are the first 2 Ortega sites. And then the remaining 7 will be delivered during 2027 and 2028 is the current plan.
Carolina Stromlid
ExecutivesDuring which quarter will the order from the Shanghai Proton and Heavy Ion Center, SPHIC in Shanghai be invoiced?
Nina Gronberg
ExecutivesI don't have that information. Do you, Johan?
Johan Löf
ExecutivesThe revenue?
Nina Gronberg
ExecutivesYes.
Johan Löf
ExecutivesI think we -- the revenue for RayStation happened in Q1 and the revenue for RayCare hasn't happened yet. But that will happen later this year.
Carolina Stromlid
ExecutivesAnd that concludes the Q&A session. Thank you for joining us today. Should you have any follow-up questions, please don't hesitate to reach out to us. We look forward to connecting with you again on August the 13 for our Q2 results. Have a great day. Thank you.
Johan Löf
ExecutivesThank you.
Nina Gronberg
ExecutivesThank you.
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