RBZ Jewellers Limited (RBZJEWEL) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
May 22, 2024
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Operator
operatorLadies and gentlemen, good day, and welcome to the Q4 and FY '24 Earnings Conference Call of RBZ Jewellers. We have with us today, Mr. Harit Zaveri, Joint Managing Director; and Mr. Harshvardhan Bhardwaj, CFO of RBZ Jewellers Limited. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this conference is being recorded. I now hand the conference over to Mr. Harit Zaveri, Joint Managing Director of RBZ Jewellers. Thank you, and over to you, sir.
Harit Zaveri
executiveYes, hi. Thank you all for attending the conference. On the quarter-on-quarter basis, the RBZ Jewellers Limited has increased the top line from INR 78 crores to INR 86 crores. And the PBT has gone down from INR 640 lakhs to INR 423 lakhs. And the PAT has similarly had an effect of 487 to 269. I'm sure that all of you might have already visited the results and the explanation for the clear drop is related to the gross profit margins part, and that is more on the cost of goods sold. So the GP has got hit because we were following the weighted average accounting method in which the procurement of gold, which has been done at a higher rate has affected the total average cost of goods. And thus there is a dip in GP. However, another reason was the disparity in purchases and sales. That means that, let's say, the Akshaya Tritiya of last year was at April 22, and this year, it was in May 10. There was a deferred -- the event was deferred by around 20 days already. So -- and in the month of -- from February 15 to March 31st, there was a clear spike in gold prices. This has halted the purchase or this has deferred the purchase for Akshaya Tritiya due to which whatever the procurement was done what is at a higher price, was at standstill and in the coming quarter to go, at a quarter end two to go, I think the inventory would be sold and we could have the GP back to normal in the proposition. However, I'm sure that there will be a lot of questions, and we might have -- you all might have gone through the financials. So this is it from my side.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] The first question is from the line of Saurabh Aksar who is a Retail Investor.
Saurabh Aksar
analystSir, what is the growth of our company in future?
Harit Zaveri
executiveSaurabhji, so already, the previous earnings call was mentioned that we will be doing the volume growth of around 1,600. For the target, we have revised to 1,500 kg of volume growth due to the spike of around 25% in gold prices. And this would be contributed by, you know, the top line to be around INR 600 crores and the service business is again progressed by around 15% to 20% by volumes and the retail part of it is going smooth. So in that case, whatever the projections we have made for around 600 kg of top line, we are on track of it. It's already a 1.5 months post the financials. So I think the Akshaya Tritiya which has deferred has not really deferred, that -- not really has denied the demand part of it, and the demand is there. And the quarter 1, I think we'll be showing you a better picture than the last year quarter 1. Obviously, the effect of the quarter 4 of financial year '24. That the positive impact will be there because the quarter 4 has really gone negative because of higher costs. But yes, in future, the prospects are -- we are finding that there is a demand for gold and demand for our goods. Surely we will be showing the results.
Saurabh Aksar
analyst[Foreign Language]
Harit Zaveri
executiveForeign Language]. Keeping that in consideration, it is just because of the weighted average reasons that the business is showing lesser performance. Otherwise, on the fundamentals of business, there is no question.
Operator
operatorThe next question is from the line of Thomas from Suva Capital.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeI would like to know how this kind of pricing fluctuation won't affect profit in the future. How are we hedging the pricing fluctuation now?
Harit Zaveri
executiveSo Thomas, we follow a weighted average principle when it comes to inventory valuation or -- so as far as hedging is concerned, we generally try to hedge gold quantity with gold quantity rather than gold quantity with rupees. So in principle, let's say, in future, there are strong purchases of gold that has taken place. We have now gone out of our legacies. We will be soon going out of our legacy software, and we are adopting SAP as our software in which the final cost of -- when the gold is purchased, the purchase value of that particular will be mentioned with the batch ID and from the -- yes, there will be a batch valuation and till the raw material, it will be weighted average, but once the goods are finished, it will be according to the cost will be freezed for that particular portion of goods and the batch ID will be there. So I think in future, the procurement of gold will not affect totality in which the GP -- on the accounting front, the GP shows the negative fall. So yes, that is -- but the method will again remain the same. It is just that because of the software, we'll be able to trace down every batch of procurement that has been done, and we will be able to separate it from the previous batches that we have purchased. On the part of gold hedging, again, I'm repeating that it will be -- we hedge a unit of gold and not unit of gold with rupee. And if you were to do so, then we would have pay, let's say, if we had purchased, let's say my balance sheet right now has a gold of, let's say, 250 kg 300 kg. So if I hedge to hedge that thing, then I have to pay a margin money which would actually, if you just calculate 15,000 into 300 kg that will be INR 45 crores. So that would not that have eroded all the capital that I have been -- have already raised from the proceeds. So I think right now, we are in the step of evolution and according to the size and structure of the company, the method of unit-to-unit gold purchase is much better. I hope I'm clear with the answer.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeMay I know the one-off, if we remove the one-off effect of gold price fluctuation what is a normalized profit if you remove the one-off impact?
Harit Zaveri
executiveSo the normalized profit would be around INR 23 crores, INR 24 crores in general because the sales has gone up. The unit quantity of gold sold has gone up. There was -- the only thing was that Akshaya Tritiya was late and 20 days deferred. So that's the reason the quarter could not show very, very strong numbers in terms of top line increase or quantity increase. Also the spike in gold prices that has resulted into a psychological back push gold purchases. But in general, still keeping all fundamentals in place, the patch should have been at least once a year more compared to last year. That would conclude the balance sheet around INR 23 crores to INR 24 crores if you remove the effect of COGS.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] The next question is from the line of Thomas from Suva Capital.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeIf you could talk about this year expansion plans in terms of production capacity?
Harit Zaveri
executiveSo this year -- okay, so there is already -- we are trying to find a factory outskirts of the current manufacturing facility. And for that I think once the procurement of land and things are done, it will be more better in shape. But yes, the factory will be coming up, which will be at least having 5x of the capacity, which is currently installed. And in future, we are certainly forecasting the demand of that type. But let's say, the important factor would be again spotting of land and the whole operations going there. So currently, as of now, we do not require such an expansion of a factory because we have already a current capacity of 1,700 to 2,000 kgs of gold to be produced, and we are right now at 1,115 kgs. So let's say that by next year, yes, we should certainly switch and hop to the new premises or we should extend the manufacturing -- expand the manufacturing facility, so we can get a comfortable time to go forward for the upcoming -- we can go for the factory or expand the capacity to another location.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] As there are no further questions, I would now like to hand the conference over to Mr. Harit Zaveri, Joint Managing Director of RBZ Jewellers, for closing comments.
Harit Zaveri
executiveYes, thank you all for asking questions. And as the year has ended, I think we have completed with the quantity of around 1,115 kg. The expectation was around 1,200 or so. But due to the last quarter and the price rise, certainly it has pushed back. Nonetheless, in quarter 1 and quarter 2 of this year. We are expecting a strong deferred demand that was there will be recovered. And I think we remember quite well our commitments and we are strongly focused on the business operations and on the business to fulfill that. Thank you all.
Operator
operatorOn behalf of RBZ Jewellers Limited, that concludes this conference. Thank you for joining us, and you may now disconnect your lines.
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