Realty Income Corporation (O) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
August 4, 2022
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Andrea Behr
executiveThanks, everyone, for joining us today as we go over Realty Income's operating results for the second quarter. Speaking about those results will be Sumit Roy, our President and Chief Executive Officer, and Christie Kelly, our Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer. Also with us on this call are Jonathan Pong, Senior Vice President-Corporate Finance, and the leaders of our One Team. Today, we'll be making some statements that federal securities law may treat as forward-looking. What actually happens for the Company in the future could end up substantially different from what any forward-looking statements describe. The reasons such differences might arise will be laid out in more detail in the Company's Form 10-Q. During the Q&A part of this call, we'll be keeping things to a maximum of two questions per person so that everyone gets a chance to take part. Should you have more questions you'd like to ask, just get back in line and we'll get to you. At this point, I'll hand things over to Sumit Roy, our CEO.
Sumit Roy
executiveThanks, Andrea, and hello everybody. Building solid, lasting ties with every one of our stakeholders is at the heart of what makes this company succeed, and I want to thank each of you on this call for sticking with us. I also want to show my gratitude to each of my colleagues at Realty Income, who keep delivering meaningful contributions toward our growth efforts while taking care of our customers and all stakeholders as a single Realty Income team. We feel good about the momentum we're seeing everywhere in our business even with a macro backdrop that's uncertain, and we think this once more proves how stable our business model is and how it can prosper no matter where we are in the economic cycle. Because our worldwide investment pipeline is so robust, we've been able to put more than $3.2 billion into high-quality real estate during the first half of the year, with roughly $1.7 billion of that coming in the second quarter. With that kind of momentum, we're raising our 2022 acquisitions guidance to more than $6 billion; speaking of acquisitions, there are two important trends I want to flag that we're seeing in the market. First, as shown by the weighted average 5.7% cash cap rate we managed to get on our second quarter investments, cap rates in our target markets are heading upward. Our second quarter cap rate came in higher than the 5.6% and 5.4% cap rates we got in the two quarters before it. That positive link between cap rates and interest rates shows up in our acquisition pipeline too. Second, as a side effect of higher debt and equity costs that have hit a lot of our competitors, the set of acquisition opportunities coming our way at accretive spreads keeps expanding. Just to remind you, we report cap rates on a cash basis. If we look at it on a straight line basis, we figure our second quarter cap rate was about 6.2%. And typically, cash versus straight line cap rates differ by somewhere between 50 and 70 basis points in any period. Deal flow is still robust, with sourcing volume reaching roughly $26 billion this quarter, which pushes year-to-date sourcing volume to about $60 billion. We stay picky, having bought roughly 5% of sourced volume year-to-date. In the second quarter, measured as a percentage of revenue, about 39% of acquisition volume went to clients with investment-grade ratings. We're still devoted to our underwriting standards of working with well capitalized clients who lead in their fields. Our international investment volume keeps making up a big share of our total, accounting for 41% of global volume in the second quarter at a cash cap rate of roughly 5.8%. It's encouraging that our size, scale and access to well-priced capital give us the platform and currency to actively put capital to work as we keep building momentum going into 2023. Dispositions also made it a busy quarter; we sold 70 properties, producing net sale proceeds of $150 million at an unlevered IRR of about 9.3%. So far this year, we've disposed of 104 properties, bringing in net sales proceeds of $272 million and producing an unlevered IRR of about 9.4%. Recycling capital keeps creating added value for us. And what matters is that the unlevered returns we've delivered demonstrate how appealing the risk-adjusted investment profile is for those properties that have completed our entire investment cycle. Thanks to our rigorous underwriting approach, our ties to strong creditworthy clients, and the fundamental quality of our real estate, we keep producing steady results. When the second quarter closed, occupancy stood at 98.9% — the best rate we've seen in more than 10 years. Given where our occupancy and client mix stand today, we're raising our occupancy guidance for year-end 2022 to above 98%. In the second quarter, we signed 193 leases again and posted a rent recapture rate of 105.6%, which lifts our recapture rate for the year so far to 105.9%. As of quarter-end, 43.2% of the annualized contractual rent across our portfolios came from clients rated investment-grade. On top of that, properties we lease to clients on our portfolio watch list account for under 4% of the contractual rent analyzed across our portfolios, which lines up broadly with the small percentages recorded so far this year. Lastly, same-store rental revenue climbed 2% in the quarter and 3% year-to-date. Because operations across our portfolio remain strong, we're lifting our guidance for same-store rent growth to roughly 2% for 2022. I'll now hand things over to Christie, who will go deeper into the quarter's results.
Christie Kelly
executiveThank you, Sumit. In the second quarter, we produced $0.97 of AFFO per share, which works out to 10.2% growth compared with a year earlier. Accretive acquisitions form the core of how our Company grows. Our investment objectives are backed by a balance sheet with strong capitalization and an attractive cost of capital, and those things continue to give us an edge within the net lease sector. We closed the quarter comfortably inside our target leverage ratios, with net debt-to-annualized adjusted EBITDAR at 5.3 times, or 5.2 times pro forma, after annualizing the effects of net investment activity from the quarter. Capital raising was busy again for us this quarter. We issued roughly $1.8 billion of long-term and permanent capital, among which was close to $1.1 billion of equity via our ATM program along with a £600 million private placement note offering, priced at a weighted average fixed interest rate of 3.22% and a blended tenure of 10.5 years. Consequently, we ended the quarter with about $1 billion of commercial paper and revolver borrowings, net of cash. Across a total debt principal balance of nearly $16 billion, our outstanding CPE and revolver borrowings basically make up our sole variable rate debt exposure. As Sumit said earlier, being able to access attractively priced capital is a competitive advantage, and this quarter we acted to strengthen that capacity further. Back in April this year, as we had announced, we recast and upsized our multicurrency revolving credit facility, moving it from $3 billion to $4.25 billion. After the quarter ended, we raised our U.S. Commercial Paper Program from $1 billion to $1.5 billion and launched our Euro Commercial Paper Program, sized at $1.5 billion. Together these $3 billion Commercial Paper Programs, with our revolving credit facility acting as a liquidity backstop, will let us efficiently fund short-term needs at rates that are materially lower than what comparable facility borrowings would cost. Because of the momentum we keep seeing in our European investment activities, setting up a Euro program was one of our strategic goals for this year. It will also be an efficient tool allowing us to benefit from the relatively lower all-in commercial paper rates available in the Euro market; given our portfolio's health and the investment progress made so far this year, weighed against the timing of capital deployment and ongoing capital markets volatility, we affirm the 2022 AFFO per share guidance we announced earlier, $3.84 to $3.97, which at the mid-point represents almost 9% annual growth. Turning to dividends, as the monthly dividend company, raising the dividend each quarter consistently shows the confidence we hold in our business's capacity to generate cash flow. In June, we lifted our dividend for the 116th time in our company's history. And last month, we declared our 625th consecutive common stock monthly dividend. Turning to sustainability, we also issued our green bond allocation report in June, and it's great to share that the entire net proceeds from our first green bond offering have been assigned to qualifying green projects, consistent with the standards set out in our green financing framework. On the merger side, one last item: I'm happy to say the integration of our VEREIT merger is now finished, which wrapped up with the shift to one ERP system for the merged companies in the second quarter. That never would have gone so smoothly without the hard work and commitment of our amazing one team. And last, we're still on schedule to deliver the $45 million to $55 million in annualized run rate cost energies we first told you about more than a year ago at the time we announced the merger. With that, I'd like to hand the call back over to Sumit.
Sumit Roy
executiveAppreciate that, Christie. After a 2021 that set records on the investment side, it makes me proud that our group has done nothing but speed up that momentum during this year. Above all, we see a bright future, since our standing keeps improving when it comes to capturing additional share within the investment space. Truly, the edge we enjoy from our size, our scale, and our ability to tap attractively priced capital has seldom stood out more sharply than it does right now. And we're eager to keep taking advantage of that going forward. With that, let's begin taking questions. Operator?
Michael Goldsmith
analystGood afternoon, and thanks for taking my question.
Christie Kelly
executiveHello there, Michael.
Michael Goldsmith
analystHi there, thanks for taking my question. My first one concerns cap rates trending upward and the markets improving somewhat. Because of the VEREIT merger, your acquisition team is bigger. Given that, plus the fact that there's some uncertainty in the borrowing markets too, how could you be somewhat more aggressive or capitalize on the improving markets?
Sumit Roy
executiveMichael, that's a solid question, since there are conflicting forces at play in today's market. You're exactly right that cap rates are heading the right way. They're adjusting far faster than I'd initially expected. Our team is indeed significantly larger. And thanks to the VEREIT merger, a number of the people we've brought on board are certainly delivering and concentrating on a particular segment of the high real market, and that's actually generating deals for us. The counterweight to that, though, is the capital market. Look, relative to others, we're performing quite strongly. Take our tenure unsecured bond spreads — they've shifted by roughly 85 basis points, I'd say. When you consider our peers, the net lease peers rated BBB, the move there has been 120 basis points to 150 basis points. As for our cost of equity, it's basically flat versus the start of the year. Yet among our net lease peers, it's fallen by roughly 1.8 times. So those are the favorable trends, but it's also true that our overall cost of capital has risen. The real question is whether we can produce the right spreads to make a difference in overall AFFO per share growth. And yes, we can. That said, as you're aware, there's a period of adjustment, which explains why we've raised our acquisition guidance to over $6 billion from over $5 billion — evidence of the benefits we're seeing accrue to us from some of what I just mentioned; we're beginning to see many more transactions return to us. Those we weren't prepared to price at the levels sellers wanted when they first presented them are now returning with a revised cap rate that works. It's also true that the whole team has simply been able to originate more, and that's reflected in the sourcing volumes we've reported to you of $60 billion year-to-date. However, with interest rate shifts and, more crucially, the speed at which those rates have moved, spreads remain at about 110 basis points, 111 basis points year-to-date, a bit under our overall average. So that's why this positive momentum shows up in higher acquisition volume, yet doesn't necessarily convert into higher earnings guidance.
Michael Goldsmith
analystThat's really useful. As a quick follow-up, European acquisitions came in at roughly 40% during this quarter. That marks somewhat of a step-up compared with what we've been seeing, so is 40% more or less the correct blend for next year, or at minimum for the second half heading into next year — how are you viewing the U.S. versus Europe split as we move ahead?
Sumit Roy
executiveYeah. Michael, it moves around. I'd say there have actually been quarters in which the international acquisition figure wasn't 50% of total volume; and as we begin expanding into newer markets, and so on, clearly our total addressable market keeps growing. And as we get far more established in each of these newer markets, the sourced volume, along with what turns into closed volume, is going to rise. But I wouldn't claim that, right now, we ought to be considering anything above this 40% figure — 41% is what we hit in the second quarter — as though it should serve as the guiding makeup of total acquisition numbers going forward. Some quarters will see us do more, exactly as we have before, yet 40% appears to be the correct figure.
Michael Goldsmith
analystThank you very much.
Sumit Roy
executiveThank you, Mike.
Christie Kelly
executiveHey, Nick.
Nick Joseph
analystThanks. Hello, how's it going? You mentioned cap rates widening somewhat, clearly. I'm curious whether you might separate that for us between what's happening outside the U.S. versus domestically — where the increase has been greater, where things have held steadier, or whether any distinctions exist across those two.
Sumit Roy
executiveAbsolutely. Nick, that's an excellent question, and it's good to have you back in our sector. What I'd say is that cap rate shifts within the U.S. are definitely far more dramatic compared with what we've observed abroad; the main reason is that the Fed has acted far more forcefully than either the ECB or the Bank of England. That said, an announcement came out just earlier today that the Bank of England raised its rates by 50 basis points. So we expect that to feed through into elevated cap rates across the UK and the remainder of Continental Europe as well; to put some figures on these shifts, it depends on the asset type — by retail, I mean everything from grocery, which saw the biggest change since it had gotten the most aggressive, rising roughly a 100 basis points, to certain other categories we target in retail, where I'd put that change at approximately 25 basis points to 50 basis points. You ought to begin seeing that show up in upcoming quarters and in the acquisition cap rates — the cash cap rates we'll be providing to the market moving forward. Over in — over in Europe, we've likewise witnessed change, though it's been somewhat less dramatic, perhaps 5 basis points to 10 basis points. When it comes to industrial, the shift has been somewhat more apparent, 25 basis points to 50 basis points, comparable to what we saw domestically. Still, I'd say industrial has kept experiencing cap rate expansion. And from start to finish, you're looking at roughly 50 basis points of average movement; naturally, some markets saw far, far smaller changes — Inland Empire is one that comes to mind. In the more secondary and tertiary markets, though, the change has been more dramatic and might even exceed 50 to 75 basis.
Nick Joseph
analystThank you. That's quite useful. So you brought up deals returning — are those falling out of contract, or was the seller simply unable to secure the price they wanted? Broadly speaking, what do you see in those situations where you get another shot at some of them?
Sumit Roy
executiveRight; for the most part, it's purchasers who depend on debt capital markets, whether that's CMBS or the bank loan market. You're based in New York, so you're familiar with the money market, the large banks, the BofAs, the JPMorgans, the Wells — I won't claim there's a moratorium on new loans at those institutions, but it has become far harder for them to generate new bank debt or larger revolvers, and so on, for credit that's more distressed. As a result, the broader debt market has gotten significantly pricier for a number of these leveraged buyers; and what we've observed is that they can no longer meet the original cap rates at which transactions were originally agreed. And naturally, we made the decision not to chase those transactions at the pricing in question. So when they return to us, provided we still like the transaction, it was purely a matter of pricing; we can now either meet the cap rate we originally had or even push those cap rates wider to mirror today's market conditions. Yet the reality that certainty of closing has grown so much more critical for sellers these days is plainly evident across many of the conversations we're currently having with sellers.
Nick Joseph
analystThank you.
Sumit Roy
executiveSure.
Christie Kelly
executiveHello, Connor.
Connor Siversky
analystI appreciate you including me. I'd like to dig into the cap rate topic, and I value your observation that there's a link between rates going up and the effect that follows on cap rates. But have you ever managed to pin down what that delay actually looks like? Say rates move up by 25 basis points — what's the timeframe before cap rates show it? Also, on top of that, with some of your lending partners ceasing their operations, is that connection speeding up?
Sumit Roy
executiveYeah, good question. Sadly, if we could sit in a laboratory and hold steady every variable that influences this relationship, giving you an answer would be far simpler. In the past, whenever we've run these correlation studies, the delay we've identified ranges from nine up to maybe 12 months at the longest. Entering this specific set of circumstances, entering this year and watching rates climb, I felt far more doubtful. Only because of the enormous amount of money flowing into our sector from institutions. Given that abundance of capital, I hesitated somewhat to keep asserting that a nine-to-12-month delay would occur before cap rates began mirroring the fresh conditions. Still, something I failed to anticipate was how swiftly the debt markets would shift. And even with this fresh capital entering our sector — from private equity as well as from the public side. The debt markets shifted far more rapidly. As a result, the retreat by these newer purchasers in our sector has been considerably sharper, and that has caused cap rates to move much more quickly. After all, we've been in an environment of climbing interest rates for the past six months, and cap rates have already begun shifting by 25 to 50 basis points. As I mentioned, within the grocery sector, sale leasebacks that used to close in the low fours are now returning and closing in the low fives to mid fives. So there isn't a fixed figure I can give you, Connor; it mirrors whatever conditions you happen to be dealing with. But honestly, it benefits us that cap rates are able to move as swiftly as they have while interest rates rise. My only wish is that the opposite scenario doesn't hold true.
Connor Siversky
analystUnderstood; that's quite an intriguing detail. I'll stop my questions at that point. Appreciate it.
Sumit Roy
executiveThank you.
Christie Kelly
executiveHello, Haendel.
Haendel St. Juste
analystHey, good to be here. Greetings, everybody. So I suppose what I'd like to hear is how you see the part of the market that isn't high grade at this moment. I realize it isn't where your attention sits, though you do engage with it selectively and hold some positions. What I'm wondering is how the appeal of high grade stacks up against the non-high grade space, and whether a case could arise where the return premium grows large enough that you'd lean further into non-high grade opportunities. Thank you.
Sumit Roy
executiveHello, Haendel. Indeed. There's a story that keeps circulating, claiming we either ignore or overly favor the higher-rated portion of things. Take a look at our activity this quarter. Specifically, 62% of our activity fell into sub-investment grade or non-rated territory. So the claim that investment grade credit and that specific product are our sole concern just isn't accurate. What we've attempted to communicate to the market — clearly without success — is that our approach centers on risk adjusted returns, and there are moments when investment grade credit delivers risk adjusted returns that are much better than what the non-investment grade side offers. When we shift focus to that area and attempt to complete those deals, there are also occasions when the reverse situation applies—specifically, below investment grade lets you achieve risk-adjusted returns that are significantly better. That's the kind of market we're in right now, where the non-investment grade portion of the equation is presenting us with really strong opportunities, which means we can push many of those deals through to closing—62% in the second quarter, for instance. So credit ratings don't matter to us one way or the other. Our approach centers on assessing the whole of each specific opportunity, then assigning a return profile suited to the risk we're taking on, and that will keep shifting. Achieving an investment grade rating isn't something we aim for; it usually emerges as a side effect of our underwriting process. I hope that answers what you were asking.
Haendel St. Juste
analystAbsolutely, absolutely. Definitely grateful for the insight and the way you've framed things. Is there anything new on Encore — as I understand it, still expected to wrap up during Q4 — and where do things stand with the regulatory and licensing side of it?
Sumit Roy
executiveWe remain on schedule, and we're feeling pretty good about it. We've kept in very tight contact with the MGC and are collaborating closely with them, so we're highly confident it will be finalized before this year wraps up, in the fourth quarter.
Haendel St. Juste
analystThank you.
Sumit Roy
executiveSure.
Christie Kelly
executiveHi, Brad.
Brad Heffern
analystHi, everybody. Hello, Christie. I suppose this one's for you. Regarding the updated guidance, could you walk through the components that left the AFFO per share figure the same even though the acquisition total went up? My assumption is that it mentioned possibly narrower spreads relative to the cost of capital, but I'm wondering whether there was any FX effect or an impact from interest expense or something else.
Christie Kelly
executiveYeah. Brad, I believe, to kick things off, Sumit — Sumit began to mention this regarding a few of the components, since we had raised our acquisition volume beyond $6 billion, yet held, as you noticed, our AFFO per share guidance at the same level and reaffirmed it. And there are certain elements at play here: first, the turbulence in the capital markets, as we've talked about, the broader rate increases and how large those increases have been, plus any steps that could be taken later on. That applies to both the European and U.S. situations; we also, to the point you raised. We truly do hedge when it comes to FX in order to safeguard our international income, and we've also got hedges set up to bring down our effective interest rates, and we'll get into that a little more shortly. But another factor is simply the timing of the investment volume — the team has been performing excellently. We have genuinely strong momentum, as Sumit mentioned, in the market. And the acquisitions we complete between now and the close of the year, though appealing, will really position us well for 2023. So that timing isn't as favorable for this year's AFFO as it will be for the full-year effect next year; and on the positive side, I think we still have certain clients on cash accounting who have only just begun under their deferral arrangements; so we'll be watching them for continued consistent payment performance, and we'll make the right decisions in line with our policy and guidelines when we might move them off cash accounting. But I'd like to hand it over to Jonathan to speak a bit more specifically about hedging and what it impacts.
Jonathan Pong
executiveAppreciate it, Christie. Right, Brad — clearly we've put out quite a bit of debt in local currencies within the sterling market, and that's by design, since rates there are considerably lower. Still, when you think about it from a natural hedge angle, if our interest costs are in the same currency as the rent we're now collecting, that shrinks how much volatility we're exposed to. Beyond that, we follow a cleanup approach under which we hedge part of the AFFO that isn't otherwise hedged. Given how that works, we believe we've reduced the spread of possible results, both favorable and unfavorable, though some unhedged exposure remains — roughly 60% of the AFFO we earn in foreign currencies carries no hedge. That means a 10% swing in the dollar, for example, translates to about $0.015 of volatility on a yearly basis. So we aren't fully hedged, which leaves room for gains should the dollar revert toward its mean. That said, it's a touch of caution on our part, given we're sitting here in August.
Brad Heffern
analystAll right, I appreciate all the detail. Then, Sumit, a few of your competitors on this call have mentioned portfolios changing hands for less than what individual properties go for. Have you observed that too? And might you be looking to do additional deals involving portfolios?
Sumit Roy
executiveNot any more than previously, Brad. Transactions involving a group of properties usually do sell for less, particularly during periods like the current one, when capital has gotten more expensive. Also, many of the possible purchasers for large portfolios are essentially waiting on the outside. So things have basically gone back to the way they used to be, when we'd receive a lower price on portfolio deals. Consequently, if you examine the volume we have right now, roughly 62% of our activity consisted of portfolio transactions. That works in our favor, Brad, and what we're witnessing is precisely the same situation that a number of our competitors have described.
Brad Heffern
analystOkay, thank you.
Sumit Roy
executiveSure.
Wes Golladay
analystHi, everyone.
Christie Kelly
executiveHi, Wes.
Wes Golladay
analystHi. I have a question, perhaps regarding FX, but more specifically about future hedging, I suppose. As you acquire additional properties abroad, would you increase, I suppose, CP issuance as a hedging tool? Also, might U.S. CP issuance potentially drop to zero, with nearly all capacity used overseas?
Jonathan Pong
executiveHi, Wes, this is Jonathan. I’ll address that. You might have noticed we recently set up our euro commercial paper program, amounting to $1.5 billion equivalent, alongside the increase in size of our U.S. dollar commercial paper program. Regarding the Euro CP side, we definitely plan to make use of it as long as we have a need for euro currency. However, at present, clearly interest rates are comparatively much lower; we could likely issue one-year year-old CP < > at around a 25 basis point level, which is versus revolver borrowings at roughly 75 basis points. So certainly, holding a liability—and a particularly inexpensive one denominated in euros—will be beneficial in every way, reducing the number of derivatives we must use to hedge our exposure and bringing down the old interest rate we pay on your borrowings.
Wes Golladay
analystUnderstood. Now, circling back to that remark — apologies, please continue.
Sumit Roy
executiveRight, Wes. With all that being said, our aim is to move toward permanent funding for the acquisitions at the earliest opportunity. What I mean is, this serves as a way for us to give the market certainty and to capitalize on the A-/A3 rating we hold; even so, it will keep playing a minor part in our debt structure as a whole. If you check where our outstandings stand at present, that figure is roughly 7%. That's the way you ought to view how we'll grow the business from here on.
Wes Golladay
analystUnderstood. Now I'd like to revisit what you said regarding the reason cap rates are necessary. I'm simply wondering whether you notice any variation across sale leasebacks, marketed assets, developer takeouts — any of the channels you examine?
Sumit Roy
executiveCorrect. The channel isn't what drives it. Wes, I'd put it this way: the broader market matters far more. Once cap rates begin shifting in portfolio deals, whether that portfolio is offered by a different seller or arrives through a sale-leaseback route, that will mirror market conditions. Does a relationship matter at all? Absolutely, it does. Yet we're talking 5 basis points to 10 basis points, or perhaps 15 basis points at the very most. Still, what sets those cap rates is the market itself, far more than whichever channel is involved.
Wes Golladay
analystGreat, thanks a lot.
Sumit Roy
executiveThank you.
Christie Kelly
executiveHi, Josh.
Joshua Dennerlein
analystHey Christie, hey, everyone. Now that you've more or less finished bringing the VEREIT merger together, what's your thinking on further M&A?
Sumit Roy
executiveJosh, you're not going to give us a moment to catch our breath, are you?
Joshua Dennerlein
analystYou all put in serious effort. I mean, Jonathan in particular, he has to put in even more.
Sumit Roy
executiveThat is correct. That is correct. Josh, we have consistently stated that when it comes to M&A, opportunities are something we are always receptive to. Facilitating an M&A trade, though, is not simple. Willing partners are required, the market environment needs to be favorable, and you must be capable of examining the other portfolio to determine whether there is a huge amount of overlap regarding what we would have pursued strategically if this whole portfolio had been on offer. After that, social issues have to be factored in. So many elements sort of need to line up prior to your being able to help facilitate an M&A trade. Yet despite everything I have just said, and this aligns very closely with our prior statements, we are perpetually searching. And should the correct opportunity come along, we will not back away from it. Thus, we have demonstrated our ability to do it. It has now been accomplished by us a couple of times. And we will continue searching and continue putting in serious effort, as you put it, Josh.
Joshua Dennerlein
analystThen also, I believe you brought up grocery anchors; from what I gathered, cap rates shifted upward by roughly 100 basis points. Did any other asset classes or property types show that same scale of change?
Sumit Roy
executiveYeah. For industrial, I'd say—not universally, but in certain industrial cases—the shift has been pretty dramatic too, not sure whether it's 100 basis points, though it wouldn't be inaccurate to say 50 basis points to 75 basis points. It seemed to me that the grocery market slowed down; in other words, cap rate compression happened so fast compared with where we historically acquired grocery in the U.S., in the high-5s—this was top-tier grocery—it sped downward to the low-4s. That was clearly proof of how much capital had entered our space and the available cost of debt that let these purchasers basically achieve the yield they needed on a cash-on-cash basis. The reversal came just as swiftly, partly because of what the Fed decided to do, partly because of how that fed through into the debt market. Then some of that capital, which depended on the debt markets, pulled back; so I'd say that phenomenon is really specific to that particular retail segment. And I can't think of any other sector where we saw that kind of compression.
Joshua Dennerlein
analystThat's interesting. Thank you, everyone.
Ronald Kamdem
analystHi, only two fast questions as we continue, or perhaps we won't..
Christie Kelly
executiveHello there, Ronald.
Ronald Kamdem
analystHey, how's it going? Staying with the topic of big acquisitions, perhaps M&A, but even just larger portfolio deals. I recall that one advantage of having a bigger platform is the ability to complete these bigger sale leasebacks, so any update on how that pipeline is developing; and when might we see more of those deals come through?
Sumit Roy
executiveYeah, Ron, I can tell you the pipeline is large. And we're having discussions about fairly sizable opportunities. Again, like what I said regarding M&A, I think it's tough, sellers are still somewhat anchored to the past in terms of where the market stood literally five to six months ago, and their readiness to kind of acknowledge the current state of affairs is what will determine whether these conversations and these pipeline opportunities turn into under contract opportunities. But I can tell you, Ron, that our pipeline has never appeared stronger and a lot of that composition comes from bigger portfolio transactions. And so we're hopeful that a few of these will cross the finish line, and if it does, you'll be the first to know.
Ronald Kamdem
analystGreat. Could I also squeeze in a quick question about the guidance? What are you assuming — and apologies if this was already addressed — for bad debt, and has that assumption shifted at all, since it appears to have stayed quite low?
Sumit Roy
executiveYeah. Jonathan or Christie ought to handle that one.
Christie Kelly
executiveYes. Regarding bad debt, nothing particular shifted on that front. When it comes to the effect, take the example we've discussed at length — the customers still on cash accounting, plus how the deferral setups for roughly a good handful of them, mainly those hit hardest during COVID in theater along with health and fitness, began in July. So we'll be watching how strongly their collections keep performing, then make the right decisions tied to our policies and such as we move through this year, figuring out whether any of those customers get moved off cash accounting. And part of that effect, Ron, is among the variables we built into the top end of our guidance.
Ronald Kamdem
analystThanks.
Jonathan Pong
executiveRon, one more thing from me: when it comes to what we're projecting for the rest of the year, what we're really assuming is something closer to normal. During the first six months, we actually got some benefit from repayments tied to deferral arrangements, and those led to bad debt expense that was flat or even below zero. So there's a bit of caution baked into the second half, simply because of the macro backdrop and the uncertainty out there; but we are absolutely working with a normal run rate as you'd see in a pre-pandemic year.
Ronald Kamdem
analystThanks.
John Massocca
analystHello there, good afternoon.
Christie Kelly
executiveHey, John.
John Massocca
analystHow are you doing? When we consider the competitive landscape you're up against in Europe compared with the U.S., how exposed are your European rivals to increases in interest rates? And if we keep seeing upward pressure on UK and EU rates, might that drive some competitors out of the market, similar to what's happened in the U.S. so far this year?
Sumit Roy
executiveFor sure. Not to be dodging you, John, but that's precisely what we anticipate occurring. I believe I noted that the BFA recently lifted their rates by 50 basis points to 1.75%. We ought to begin seeing cap rates move, though many levered buyers — and there are a fair number of them — will start dropping away. That's already shown up in a handful of deals we've been chasing in international markets; and once more, this certainty of close is what gets magnified during times like these; and we've had deals that actually returned to us in international markets, since they know we can close, particularly on large transactions. So I anticipate that what's unfolding here in the U.S. will be a comparable story internationally, and because the level of competition we encounter there, John, is actually much lower, we expect those benefits to become even greater in the quarters ahead.
John Massocca
analystAnd I suppose, looking back at the third and fourth quarters of last year, how significant a role did non-public leveraged buyers play in Europe compared with the U.S.? Would you say they make up a larger share of the competitive field, or is it about the same, or less?
Sumit Roy
executiveYeah, quantifying that is really tough, but if forced to speculate, I'd say a greater number of buyers over in Europe depend on the debt markets. What complicates things is that those debt markets may be somewhat less developed than what exists here in the U.S., which meant roughly a handful fewer competitors for the types of assets we've been going after. That aligns with one of our strategic rationales for moving into Europe: fewer comparable rivals than we encounter in the U.S., plus a greater magnification of our built-in strengths in that specific market. And lately, we're definitely beginning to witness more of that.
John Massocca
analystAlright. I realize this is a fairly new development, but when you evaluate tenant credit — for both deals you've made and the properties already on the books — how do you weigh sellers that deal in hard goods against tenants that lean more toward services, considering how consumer demand has shifted lately?
Sumit Roy
executiveYes, it really hinges on which hard goods we're talking about. I'll mention that Walmart made yet another announcement today. They're feeling the squeeze. But would I say Walmart is having trouble covering its rent? No, I wouldn't. Would I say that, looking across categories, apparel businesses are hurting somewhat more, particularly if discretionary income keeps getting squeezed? Without a doubt. Would I say quick service restaurants are hurting in the same way? No. We witnessed this during the great financial crisis, when a number of service oriented businesses actually flourished. Movie theaters performed really strongly. Health and fitness did quite well too, particularly the lower cost health and fitness concepts, since they tend to draw in the more value sensitive consumer base during periods when alternatives have grown much pricier. I do anticipate casual dining will absorb somewhat more of the strain. That said, the concepts matter, who the operator is matters, the strength of their balance sheet matters, and their capacity to apply lessons learned from the pandemic — when there were far more click and collects and deliveries that they could pivot toward within their business model — those things, I believe, will serve well the ones that made it through and managed to put those kinds of changes into their business model. Still, it's highly dependent on the specific vertical and the conditions we're currently in.
John Massocca
analystThat was really useful detail. I have nothing else to ask. Thanks so much.
Sumit Roy
executiveAppreciate it, John.
Christie Kelly
executiveHey, Chris.
Chris Lucas
analystAfternoon. Hello, Christy. Afternoon, everyone. I've got one more thing to ask regarding the commercial paper program. So, as I see it, you have $1.5 billion that's denominated, and €1.5 billion that's denominated. Was there any particular rationale for choosing euro denomination over pound denomination — something to do with efficiency, how deep the market is, what you might use it for down the road? I'm simply attempting to grasp the reasoning behind euro instead of pound.
Christie Kelly
executiveOf course. Chris.
Jonathan Pong
executiveChris, hi, Jonathan here. You know, there's a subtlety when it comes to the commercial paper market. The storage market isn't all that large, honestly. As a result, stand-alone sterling programs aren't something you see much of. With the Eurocommercial paper program, though, we get the flexibility to issue in sterling. So if demand exists in that market, we'll have a way to tap into it. Still, for the most part, dollars and euros are what dominate this market.
Chris Lucas
analystAll right, that's great, thanks for that. Then, Sumit, if we just pull back a bit and talk somewhat about the FX matter that has come up this year. You've witnessed a fairly significant shift in terms of the dollar strengthening against both the euro and the pound. And if you look back through history, apart from really about a week during COVID in March of 2020, you'd have to go right back to the Reagan < > Administration decline for this relative value on both the pound and on the, on the euro impact that far, but in terms of the dollar strength. So my question is, does that affect at all your thinking about where to put capital right now? Or are you totally indifferent to the exchange rate?
Sumit Roy
executiveIt wouldn't be fair to say, Chris, that we're indifferent to the exchange rate. Clearly, this is something we focus on intensely — as we mentioned, we aren't 100% hedged. Doing so wouldn't make economic sense. Roughly 40% of our income stream is hedged. And we've put in place strategies to somewhat reduce swings in the foreign exchange market. That said, we ran the very same analysis, Chris, to determine at what moment these exchange rates at current levels and reached the same conclusion that look, again, I might end up looking foolish 3 months from now; but this appears to be the low point in terms of foreign exchange between the GBP and the U.S. and the euro in the U.S. And you're beginning to see with rate hikes by the Bank of England, similar to the ECB, you're beginning to see that rectify itself and begin to revert a bit more to the mean. So that might potentially serve as a tailwind. But not knowing and not attempting to forecast where these things will play out. That's why — one of the primary reasons why we kept our range exactly the same, but we think we're very well positioned at present. In the end, this is a long game; and what we want is to let the product and the acquisition opportunities dictate with is with an eye on the exchange rate, dictate how we build out our portfolio; so completely not fair to say we'd be indifferent, but it's something we bear in mind, but doesn't necessarily drive our strategy in its entirety.
Chris Lucas
analystExcellent; that answers my questions. That’s everything from me today. Thanks very much.
Sumit Roy
executiveThanks, Chris.
Christie Kelly
executiveThank you, Chris.
Christie Kelly
executiveHi, Harsh.
Harsh Hemnani
analystHi Christie, one quick question from my side. Regarding the money you're putting to work in Europe, how much of it comes from sale-leaseback originations as opposed to buying existing leases? And what does that picture look like relative to your U.S. investments?
Sumit Roy
executiveMy sense is the mix isn't dramatically different. On the sale-leaseback front, Harsh, year-to-date it came in at roughly 28%. Some quarters have seen that figure reach 75%, while in others it has dropped to 20%; so what drives the sale-leaseback portion is really availability, timing of closings within a particular quarter, and so forth. That said, when we choose to go after sale-leasebacks in a significant way, it's quite possible a few of those deals could be considerably bigger; take, for example, our very first transaction upon entering the U.K., which was a sale-leaseback with Sainsbury's — that one was $0.5 billion. Consider the gaming sector and the sale-leaseback we completed with them: because it's a $1.7 billion transaction, it will overshadow that quarter. We also come across comparable opportunities where, should they close within a given quarter, that quarter will be dominated by them; and in my view this isn't something specific to the U.S. I expect it to hold true across both the U.S. and international markets.
Harsh Hemnani
analystOkay, thank you.
Sumit Roy
executiveThank you.
Linda Tsai
analystHi.
Christie Kelly
executiveHi, Linda.
Linda Tsai
analystHi Christie. Regarding that 2% increase in same-store revenue, I noticed health and fitness, restaurants, and materially theaters were among the contributors to the improvement in second-quarter same-store results. At what point did those strong comps begin to normalize? And does that depend in part on cash basis payback?
Sumit Roy
executiveYes, it does. That's the point when we begin taking a large number of these clients off cash basis and returning them to accrual basis. You'll still have roughly a 12-month stretch where this mismatch persists. Some of the higher same-store rental growth you're observing is basically a side effect of shifting certain cash accounts back to accrual; once everything settles, you should expect us to return to that 1% to 1.5% same-store growth. But at the moment, we're in a phase where we're beginning to recognize and transition some of these clients — AMC being a case in point — back to accrual accounting, and that is affecting the growth rate disproportionately in a very favorable manner.
Linda Tsai
analystThat's useful. Then, I believe earlier you mentioned allocating capital toward empty buildings for redevelopment, which would aid in generating leads. Are you continuing to do that?
Sumit Roy
executiveAbsolutely, Linda. I'd say that's reflected in certain re-leasing spreads we've achieved — ones I take great pride in the asset management team for — essentially net above 105%, with no TI dollars at all. A portion of that — not a huge portion, though some — definitely comes from our repositioning efforts. Among the largest recapture rates we saw involved transforming a quick service idea into a different retail format, mostly thanks to a predictive analytics tool indicating that for this specific site, an alternative concept rather than a quick service restaurant represents the highest and best use. So we followed that approach, and we managed to achieve recapture rates exceeding 200%. We provide all those details in aggregate through our supplemental, so you're able to monitor some of it; however, that remains a major priority for us, Linda, and we're hopeful it will keep turning into an increasingly significant contributor to the value driving our future growth.
Linda Tsai
analystThank you.
Sumit Roy
executiveThank you.
Sumit Roy
executiveI appreciate everyone taking the time to be with us on this call. I wish all of you a great remainder of the summer season, and we can't wait to talk with you once more before long. Thanks so much.
Operator
operatorThat brings us to the end of this call. We appreciate your joining the presentation today. You're welcome to hang up at this point.
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