Rite Aid Corporation (RAD) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
January 11, 2021
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Lisa Gill
analystGood morning. My name is Lisa Gill, and I'm the Healthcare Technology and Distribution Analyst with JPMorgan. It is with great pleasure to welcome you to the 39th Annual JPMorgan Healthcare Conference. With me this morning I have Rite Aid. Presenting for Rite Aid will be CEO, Heyward Donigan; COO, Jim Peters; and CFO, Matt Schroeder. Heyward's going to make a few opening comments, and then we're going to have more of a fireside type format. So Heyward, thank you, and welcome. I know you couldn't make it to the conference last year. So this is your first JPMorgan conference. I so wish we were together in San Francisco, but I really appreciate your time.
Heyward Donigan
executiveWell, thank you for including us. And yes, I mean, different times, but you've rallied superbly. So it's great to all be together virtually. So thanks for hosting us here today. Jim, Matt and I are looking forward to answering your questions, giving the audience further insight into Rite Aid. Before we begin the presentation, we've included 2 slides regarding forward-looking statements. Pretty standard stuff. You all know the drill, and please feel free to revisit them at your leisure. So it's a new day at Rite Aid. It truly is. I know this seems a bit cliché, but we really are a remarkably different company from when I first arrived in August of 2019. We've been moving with great urgency to turn this company around, reduce our debt, free up cash, reduce expenses and get our business growing again. We're pleased with our early results, but understand we have a lot of work to do ahead of us even now. On the next few slides, we'll dive into a bit more on where we are. And the strategic pillars that we're driving on what we call our RxEvolution. As we look at Slide 5, for those of you who aren't familiar with us, we are a healthcare company, consisting of 3.7 million-member pharmacy benefits manager, which we rebranded to Elixir this year. Combined with a bicoastal retail pharmacy chain with over 2,400 stores now under both the Rite Aid and Bartell name, following the closing of our strategic acquisition of Bartell Drugs in the greater Seattle area. We generate approximately $24 billion in annual revenue and the retail side of the business currently makes up 67% of both total revenues and adjusted EBITDA. But the total size of the PBM addressable market at $400 billion, we view Elixir as our greatest opportunity for future growth. Now on Slide 6. At our Analyst Day last March, right before we shut down for COVID, we introduced our RxEvolution. What was going to be a live meeting in New York turned into a virtual meeting overnight pretty much. And that RxEvolution is how we believe we will deliver on the unique opportunity we have to serve a growing customer base and unlock an iconic brand with a deep legacy, actually 2 iconic brands with a deep legacy, Bartell and Rite Aid. Our commitment is to leverage the power of our organization, including the trusted pharmacists to deliver on the promise of real consumer engagement like never before seen in health care. Our 3 strategic pillars of the RxEvolution are: one, establishing our pharmacy services segment as a clearly differentiated market leader; two, unlocking the value of our pharmacists, and finally, renewing our retail and digital experience. In just 10 months, since we've introduced our strategy, we've delivered meaningfully on these pillars, making substantial changes to position our company for profitable growth. Let's take a look at some of our progress on the next couple of slides. So looking at the next slide, the team has been hard at work revitalizing our retail stores, our website, our mobile app, our merchandise and enhancing our service levels and customer engagement. In November, we successfully introduced our new Rite Aid brand to showcase our focus on delivering the perfect fusion of traditional medicine and alternative remedies. We've refreshed exteriors of our stores, including digital pylons at over 800 stores so far this -- well over the last few months, I should say, into this year. We've reset, and the plan is to do all of the stores by midyear. We've refreshed and reset 75% of our merchandise and introduce new products to reinforce whole health. We've opened 3 stores of the future in Etters, Pennsylvania, Littleton, New Hampshire and Moscow, Pennsylvania, with these stores showing strong early signs in terms of both sales and margin performance. And we have several other stores that are coming near completion, one of which I'll be visiting this week. We've launched and elevated and redesigned our website and mobile app, which reflect our new branding, but also deliver a much-enhanced user experience with more work to do. Finally, through the implementation of lean methodology, we have redefined the role, customer expectations and even the daily workflows of our pharmacists. And we are on target to reduce inventory by approximately $200 million by year-end. These changes are allowing us to help our consumers not just get healthy but get thriving. Now on Slide 8, as I mentioned, we've rebranded our Pharmacy Services Segment, Elixir, to signal the move to crafted Rx Solutions for our target customer. We believe we are well on our way to positioning Elixir as a clearly differentiated and market-leading pharmacy benefits and services company, and in fact, just launched the first phase of our exciting new member portal for Elixir customers. Our rebrand is not just a new name, but a true integration that will offer more options, more capabilities and efficiencies that our clients and members expect, in some cases, don't expect, and I think we will delight. Our fully integrated PBM offering includes technology solutions, mail order delivery, specialty pharmacy, network and rebate administration and claims adjudication as well as prescription discount programs and groups. With stronger, more efficient offerings, we are positioned for growth and improved profits. As noted, we believe Elixir will be a unique PBM offering that represents the largest potential growth for Rite Aid. Now on Slide 9. Our teams are not only executing on our strategic priorities but delivering on our quarterly goals as well. As you know, we released our fiscal third quarter results just before the holidays. Some highlights include a 12% increase in total revenue. Our retail pharmacy revenues increased 5.1% with same-store 30-day equivalent prescription count growing 3.1%. Easy for me to say. I'll say that again, same-store 30-day equivalent prescription count growing 3.1%. Flu immunizations increased by 28%, not surprisingly, with everything going on with COVID. People are very focused on not getting the flu. We also managed to continue to increase front end and pharmacy market share. I think that's really important. And at Elixir, revenues increased a whopping 29%. Even in these unprecedented times, our strategy is working. Finally, on Slide 9, and before we dive into questions, I want to spend a minute on the critical role we're playing to combat COVID-19. We are proud to be an integral part of COVID testing with over 400 testing sites today that we have conducted approximately, and we have conducted approximately 1.5 million tests to date. And we are contracted with the CDC to administer COVID vaccines. You might not know this, but we have administered over 5,000 vaccines. the counties and the states are acting now in earnest, as you probably read, to leverage alternative distributors of the vaccine, which includes now retail pharmacy beyond CVS and Walgreens. While the majority of the vaccines we will be administering is what we believe would be during Phase II as I mentioned earlier, I believe this is going to be ramped up more expeditiously and faster than that. Finally, I just want to say how proud I am of our and associates and the progress we're making in our journey to revolutionize our industry and elevate our role as an indispensable healthcare provider. So we're accelerating the key initiatives that support our strategy, and we'll continue to deliver the operational excellence or hustle, as we call it, needed to achieve strong results as we continue to generate cash flow, the importance continues to be and the focus continues to be for us to reduce our debt. And most importantly, reduce -- improve our leverage ratio. So thank you, again, Lisa, for having us today. And with that, we can open it up for questions.
Lisa Gill
analystOkay, great. Great. I'm back. Thank you so much for all the detail. And for the slides. Clearly, one of the key themes of this conference is going to be around the vaccine. We have everything from manufacturers to the labs to entities like yourself that will be so important in the administration of the actual vaccine. And Heyward, you just talked about that you anticipated you would be part of Phase II, but now states and counties really ramping up. So my first question would be, do you anticipate that with the new administration that there'll be a more coordinated effort across the U.S. rather than utilizing states or counties? I think that's what's been -- or at least the assumption has been that, that's where some of the bottlenecking is happening today that I'll use my own city as an example. We've got Cuomo and de Blasio fighting over who should get the vaccine and how it should be rolled out. So that would be my first question. Do you expect something better out of the next administration? And then secondly, since we have Matt with us as well. I'm wondering if you can maybe talk about the potential financial impact of participating in any of the vaccine administration?
Heyward Donigan
executiveWell, actually, ironically, the testing, which is what we've been involved with from the get-go was all centrally coordinated in a way through the federal government. And so it was funded by an orchestrated by and approved by HHS in a very centralized fashion. The vaccines are now -- it's not even just the states, the counties are determining who gets how much and what the conditions are. In other words, is it healthcare providers, which healthcare providers, is it 1A, 1B, 1C, 2. And so it's been, I think, much more confusing because the criteria are different. And the orchestration of it is county by county, which was not the case really with the testing. And so I think we've seen 2 things happen, and we weren't initially, as I said, a part of any of this. So we're just witnessing this to some degree from afar because the healthcare providers were doing, the healthcare providers and the CVS and Walgreens were doing the nursing homes or long-term care facilities. What's become -- 2 dynamics are becoming obvious. One is that it's difficult to figure out how many doses to send to which place and then for them to figure out how to orchestrate getting those doses into people's arms. And so that's been confusing. The second thing that's been very confusing and unfortunate, and I'm sure you read this recently because you live in New York, it was in the New York Times that a lot of doses are going wasted, and in some cases, being thrown away because people aren't -- they can't find people who -- enough people who want the vaccine quickly that day. So it's a real shame to have doses go unused. And we ourselves have seen this in some of the early work that we're doing is that if you open up a bottle and you only get one person that wants a dose that day, you've got to figure out what to do with the rest of the bottle. So I think we would all agree that we don't want doses going unused in this particular dynamic, but it is extremely complicated to figure out how to find the right people, the most vulnerable in that moment in that day without having things go to waste. So I think -- I don't -- I can't predict what's going to happen under the Biden administration. They have clearly reached out to us, and we're in contact with them. And I know that they're discussing the notion of getting all the first doses out regardless -- not regardless of, but without necessarily being 100% sure you can get the second doses out, which is a different strategy than what the other -- with the current administration that's been using. But I think I presume that we'll sort through this in the next few weeks, and you can see some of this shaking out with New York City having a somewhat different policy potentially than the rest of New York. Which is to start to make this as available as possible. We're seeing this in Pennsylvania as well. But I do think one thing is for sure, it's going to be pretty chaotic for the next few weeks as we'll try to maneuver through this.
Lisa Gill
analystBefore Matt answers the financial question, I just -- I want to also understand the reporting aspect. So one of my concerns is that we make sure that we get to that herd immunity that we get 75% or 80% of the American population vaccinated, that can be vaccinated. And so what is the government asking around documentation? So -- And then from there, how do you view future documentation. So will it be -- if I come to Rite Aid and I get my vaccine, will you give me a card that says I've had my vaccine so that I can prove it to others. Will it go into an electronic health record, will it go into some centralized database across the U.S., what's your expectation?
Heyward Donigan
executiveI'll let Jim take a crack at that.
James Peters
executiveLisa, thank you. Great to be here. I would say, I can't really talk much about what the government is going to require simply because those have not yet been fully flushed out. And they, like other aspects of this, are subject to change. But we are absolutely prepared to provide a record of immunization, proof of immunization that we'll be putting out from our own pharmacy system. We also are exploring opportunities to participate in a more digital-based solution, which actually goes beyond Rite Aid and into the form of partners who are also digitizing in a way that can help protect people like you and me next year when we go to the JPMorgan conference in person.
Lisa Gill
analystWhich I'm hopeful for.
James Peters
executiveAs we all are.
Heyward Donigan
executiveRite Aid [ healthcare ] vaccine databases that we participate with. So like if you go to a Rite Aid, we can print out for you every vaccine you've ever gotten regardless of where you are. My husband just had that done, himself. So I'm not sure if that's state-by-state or whether all states do that. But there's already sort of a precursor for this because vaccines if you think about it, you can't go to school without proving that you've been vaccinated for certain things. So I think we'll be building on whatever -- what already is a fairly robust architecture of proof of vaccine. So I don't think this will be all that different than measles, mumps, rubella, Smallpox, whatever, but I think the key for us is to figure out a way that you can put it in your digital wallet, so you could show it when you go on an airline, something that's really slick and convenient and less paper-heavy. Because I do anticipate for the next couple of years, you will need to prove your immunity or vaccine status to do certain things. So that's what we're working on.
Lisa Gill
analystAnd Matt have you talked about the financial impact? I know ourselves and probably other analysts have written about the potential. And the way we looked at it is we've got about the profitability being roughly equal to doing a flu vaccination, which I think I've heard you and other retailers talk about in the past that it's about the same as filling a script. So do we think about this as being similar? Or are there different characteristics that this would be different than what we see with a flu vaccination from a profitability standpoint?
Matt Schroeder
executiveYes. Lisa, I think on a gross margin standpoint, it all depends on how insurers adhere to the CDs -- it really -- past 2 kind of factors. One, how to ensures it adhere to the CDC kind of recommendations for reimbursement. And the second is whether you're doing both of the doses or just one of the doses that someone gets, which, obviously, we are going to set up tracking systems and work with our customers to make sure they're getting both of the doses. But I think the profitability of flu shots is probably as good a proxy as any right now, especially when you think about there's still cost -- incremental costs that were potentially going to incur around additional pharmacists, things to stand up, kind of a digital intake system and other types of costs that are going to be in there that are very, very early in trying to figure out. So I think that's as good a proxy as any for right now with probably more to figure out here really even over the next few weeks or a couple of months.
Lisa Gill
analystJust so everyone that's watching today, I understand you don't have anything in your current guidance around the potential vaccine, correct?
Matt Schroeder
executiveYes. So our fiscal '21 ends at the end of February. So there's nothing in our fourth quarter guidance related to the vaccine now.
Lisa Gill
analystAnd you haven't given us '22, yet. So...
Matt Schroeder
executiveWe have not so. So that's I would anticipate we will have some estimate for the vaccine impact. When we come out with '22 guidance, how tight it is, probably depends on how these moving pieces work their way out. But we'll have something in when we come out with '22 guidance, but nothing in '21.
Lisa Gill
analystYes. Donigan, one of the things that's really stood out over the last several quarters has been the same-store sales trend. Can you just talked about what you saw in same-store sales at 3.1%. If we look at IMS data, you're actually benchmarking the IMS data, you look at the fact that nearly 25% of new prescription volumes or new prescription volumes are down 25%. And yet, you still do well. Can you maybe talk about -- is that the revitalization of your stores that you're getting new customers in? Are you doing programs around keeping people on their prescriptions. What are some of the key things that you've done to be able to drive those trends?
Heyward Donigan
executiveI would -- I'm going to let Jim answer specifically, but I would say this is pure and simple execution because we hadn't even launched our new merchandise or launched our brand or even our new service model. So I just chalk this up to just executing incredibly well during an unbelievably tough time. And the benefits of the brand and merchandise and new service model are yet to come actually. So Jim, do you want to just talk specifically?
James Peters
executiveSure. I think I completely agree, Heyward, that it's really been an execution story. I think we actually have a lot of people anecdotally really rooting for Rite Aid as the little engine that could. And that is. But I do think that in large part, this was about execution. Now part of that execution is around a whole elevated set of standards at the consumer level. That we really hardwired into our flows over the past 4 months or so. And those standards include a much more actively engaged pharmacist, who's interacting in a meaningful way with consumers in a way that they hadn't, frankly, in the past, and so we've seen the benefit of that in categories like immunity and stress and sleep, where these are remerchandising that I've talked about and we've talked about in the past, these are targets for us. These are the things that really take their toll on our new target consumer, women between the ages of 25 and 49 who take care of themselves and their families. And we've seen early fruits of that labor paying off with a much more engaged not only pharmacists, but as a result, consumer set, in particular, around areas like those I just mentioned. So I think it's a really a combination of old school execution and truthfully beginning to execute on our new strategy. And that's as Heyward said, only as of late.
Lisa Gill
analystHeyward, one other thing I wanted to touch on when we think about your strategy is this by coastal. And Bartell's is a name that having followed the drug retail industry for many years is one that is highly regarded, especially in the Seattle market. So maybe can you talk about, one, what this means to your strategy going forward? And how you think about that by coastal strategy? And two, it sounds like you won't be rebranding them to Rite Aid name -- to the name to Rite Aid. But I just wanted to confirm that.
Heyward Donigan
executiveWell, I lived in Seattle for 8 years, and my kids and I were diehard Bartell's fans. And frankly, didn't go to Rite Aid. And so I was -- I always had my eye on Bartell's just in general as a consumer. And really understood because of living there, the incredible, incredible iconic brand and legacy that they have in the community. So when we look at our store footprint, which is bicoastal and Rust Belt, because we do have Michigan and Ohio and Pennsylvania as well. Is -- We're really very, very committed to going deep into many of those markets deeper than we are today to be sure that we can be the #1 or #2 retail drugstore in those markets, not just because we want to be dominant, but because we want to be deep into the communities, we want to be a preferred retail drugstore in those communities. And we want to give to those communities beyond just being a retail drug store, but being an extender of the healthcare system. And engaging consumers in ways nobody else can because we see these customers upwards of 30 to 40 times a year. And so this is just one example of an opportunity that was opportunistic to take on an iconic brand to become the #1 in the market. To be able to really do something special and learn from them in terms of their merchandising and their hyper-local appeal, and we are not changing the brand. So it will be Bartell's alongside Rite Aid.
Lisa Gill
analystAnd as we just think about your strategy from the footprint that you have today, your 2 other competitors have talked a lot about transformation as well, adding new healthcare services into existing stores, establishing partnerships or JVs, especially with some of the Medicare Advantage players in the marketplace. What are your plans for Rite Aid? Do you see opportunities to utilize your square footage to be able to do more on the health care services side?
Heyward Donigan
executiveAbsolutely. And it's not even just the square footage. So I think we're going to be going in 2 very important directions. One is in our stores of the future. And potentially other remodels where we've completely redone the pharmacy. It's like nothing I've ever seen. We have these virtual care rooms because our strategy has never been to be a provider of care in the sense of nurse practitioners or MinuteClinic or VillageMD. We did essentially get out of that business. And so now we are singularly focused on offering a telehealth solution in our virtual care rooms, which could be not only one that we offer, but one that a health system or a provider themselves offer so that we could connect you back to your own doctor, not just to some virtual care provider. So that's one way that we are very focused on delivering healthcare in our stores. Obviously, the pharmacist is the centerpiece of this and having the pharmacy not being behind the counter counting pills, but rather upfront in the workstation, interacting with the customer. Helping them either understand why they are on certain medications, the importance of staying on medication, how to maybe navigate side effects and what alternative remedies might help. So rather than just focus on if you're taking Ambien, maybe taking Ambien instead of Lunesta because it's cheaper, but also maybe talk about Melatonin or Lavender for sleep. So something more of an alternative remedy. So that's one area. And I think the other area that we're focused on is offering -- augmenting the healthcare delivery system by offering clinical services via our pharmacists. So the pharmacist delivering more than just vaccines, which that's all anybody wants to talk about right now. But we can, in certain states, actually offer flu test, strip tests. We can hand you an A1C test. So really extending the primary care physicians we reach by getting those kinds of things into a member's hand or a customer's hand fast. So like if you think if you're a health plan, and we partner with a regional health plan, for example, we can -- we're a very efficient option to someone have to schedule a doctor's office appointment to get a strip test, for example. So those are the things that we're really thinking about. But our intention is not to be a competitor to the health care delivery systems, but rather be an extension for them. To get to their patients and customers in a more efficient and effective way.
Lisa Gill
analystAnd I agree. The focus all today is around the vaccine and having that the pharmacists administered vaccines, et cetera. But do you feel like you have the bandwidth for pharmacists? Do we have enough pharmacists in the system to be able to really truly engaged with patients. I think that the things that you talk about absolutely make sense to all of us. I think in practice, sometimes, what you see, though, is that line at the pharmacy, and you see that the pharmacist doesn't have as much time. Is it technology? I know you talked about lean technology? Is that ways that you're going to be able to free up the pharmacist time to actually spend time with the patient, the member?
Heyward Donigan
executiveWell, it's -- I'm going to let Jim answer this, but it's all about process. So Jim, you want to talk about current capacity levels and what we have been working on?
James Peters
executiveYes. So interestingly enough, Lisa, and I think we said this before, our pharmacists tend to have more capacity available than our competitors. That's number one. So we actually do have more time to triage any line that might form at our pharmacies when you compare us versus our competitors. But I would say, perhaps more relevantly to this discussion is the investments that we're making in lean. Lean has been, in many ways, a savior for our capacity -- ability to plan for the capacity that we anticipate for these services. So yes, we have some bellowed opportunities now with capacity. But in order to truly realize the potential that our strategy contemplates, we're going to have to find more time. And the way we found that time and are continue to find that time is through lean. And so you might ask, well, what is that? Specifically, what is that? We have a number of initiatives within lean, the lean process that we're undertaking. One is focused squarely on one of the biggest challenges that compromise a pharmacist time. And that is techs, pharmacy technicians who are, number one, represent a very high churn rate represent opportunity to do things, not at the pharmacist level but at the tech level that often are not done because historically, time has proven, that Rite Aid and other places, that because the turnover is so high, pharmacist take on more than they ought to, knowing that the tech is going to be gone in 6 months or 7 months. But why retrain this tech for the seventh time when I can just get it done myself. Well, that over time, those nibbles at pharmacist time and put the pharmacist, not in front, but it put them behind a production wall. And so by focusing on how we can essentially emancipate the technicians provides them opportunities to fulfill their complete licensure is something that I think others have not focused on as much as we have. It's not just about the pharmacists directly, it's about what we can do to elevate the techs which has a very profound and direct impact on our pharmacist time. So those 2 things together are really, I think, make up the secret sauce for us.
Heyward Donigan
executiveYes. So we anticipate rolling all of the countermeasures out to the lean work that we've been doing for a year, which is all what Jim described and more and changing the workflow system, changing workflow expectations, tech efficiency, all of that is being rolled out nationally. As we speak, and we do believe that it will free up another 20% of the pharmacist time in order to do these clinical services that we were talking about before and vaccines. But we will need more for vaccines, for sure.
Lisa Gill
analystHeyward, I appreciate that you're one of the few people that sees a real benefit in your PBM and Elixir because I still believe that PBMs provide a real benefit in the marketplace. And I just want to spend a couple of minutes talking about the rebranding of the name, the selling season this year, your focus on Medicare Part D and the opportunities, even within your existing base. You talk about a little more than 3 million members, 3.7 million members. Can you maybe just talk about the opportunity to get those members into your stores and some other services that you can provide? And then, like I said if you can give us any color around how the selling season went this year. I know it was probably a little bit different because of COVID, but any incremental color would be great.
Heyward Donigan
executiveYes. Well, I'll start just by saying that we renamed it Elixir because we really wanted to be very unique in terms of demonstrating that the unique name is a reflection of what we think will be a unique offering. And we call it Crafted solutions, Crafted Pharmacy solutions. Because that's really what we are doing. We're Crafting Pharmacy solutions for our target market, which is health plans under $500,000 to -- that are focused on government business or regional health plans that are upwards of up to $2 million focused on commercial and government health plans. So we are heavy right now into government health plan business. We have quite a bit of business with them. And when you layer on to that, that we have the Part D business of such significance, our expertise in the here now right now is squarely government health plan business. And so we're also jumping into the Part D PBM business to support [ Medicare ] Part D business. So we are also very focused on developing and continuing to increase our abilities on the commercial health plan side. And of course, we're always focused and have always been focused on employers in the mid-market. So let's call it, between 1,000 and 10,000 lives, upwards of 20, in some cases, so that's the market we're focused on. It's $150 billion market, that particular market. It is not dominated by the big 3, the way the rest of the business is. So we have a real opportunity there to craft solutions for those customers. We are just coming out now with our new portfolio of solutions, although we do knew a lot of this business right now, the crafted component of this is really coming into the market now. And we had a very slow selling season during COVID. It was pretty much stopped. At least for us, it did. We are now bidding on '23 business, 1/1/23 because all of the government business has to be decided in the next few months for 1/1/23. So while we're also bidding on a lot of employer and health plan business for the '22 sales cycle, some of the really significant business is in the '22, '23 cycle. We are seeing a lot of pickup right now in RFPs. We're starting to see them start across our desks, again, we're bidding on quite a number of them as we speak, and we expect to see more and more over the next few months. With regard to Rite Aid, we've already gone from 13% of Elixirs business with -- of our scripts being and the Elixir goods being filled at a Rite Aid store to 18% just over the last year. We really think that we could get to 30%, and that's one of the key measures of success for us is when Elixir sells into one of our markets that we really want to use whether it's preferred network pricing or other clinical services and solutions that make it really attractive for people to use a Rite Aid in those markets. So it is really a parallel strategy to do both as best we can be. But I'm really, really excited about these crafted solutions, this target segment, our ability to win in that market in the '22, '23 selling season.
Lisa Gill
analystWe only have 2 minutes left here, and I'd like to end my session by asking, Heyward, the CEO of the company. When we're sitting here next year, what are the things about Rite Aid that investors will appreciate then that they don't appreciate today? So over the next 12 months, what do you think investors will gain in appreciation of Rite Aid?
Heyward Donigan
executiveI think you'll see some really significant momentum in the Elixir business and see this company come out of being sort of not visible, not well-known to being something people really pay attention to. And those crafted solutions, that target market, our ability to win in that target market really being dramatically enhanced. And then second, I think our investors will actually see -- I think people think that they're seeing this now because our results were pretty good. But what we will really see next year is the results of the brand. The new better-for-you whole health merchandise and the amazing work that our pharmacists are doing to deliver both traditional and alternative therapies and clinical services for our members. I think that's what's going to stand out. The vaccines are great, they're important. They're a part of our mission. They will be substantial, I think. But those are the things that I think the investors should really be paying attention to because those are the long-term value creations, I think, for this organization.
Lisa Gill
analystGreat. Well, I want to thank everyone today for joining us. It was very informative, and it was nice to see you all virtually. So thanks again, everybody.
Heyward Donigan
executiveThank you so much, Lisa. For always doing such a great job and hosting us. We appreciate it.
Lisa Gill
analystYes. No, I appreciate it.
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