Rocket Lab Corporation (RKLB) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
January 8, 2024
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Operator
operatorHello, and welcome to the Rocket Lab Discussion of Government Constellation Award [Operator Instructions] I will now turn the conference over to Colin Canfield Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Colin Canfield
executiveThank you. Hello, everyone. We're glad to have you join us for today's conference call. Before we begin the call, I'd like to remind you that our remarks may contain forward-looking statements that relate to the future performance of the company, and these statements are intended to qualify for the safe harbor protection from liability established by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act. Any such statements are not guarantees of future performance and factors that could influence our results are highlighted in today's press release, and others are contained in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Such statements are based upon information available to the company at the date hereof and are subject to change or future developments. Except as required by law, the company does not undertake any obligations to update these statements. I'd also like to note that due to quiet period dynamics, we ask that analysts and members of the media limit their questions to today's announcement as we will not be able to provide any views or updates related to our Q4 2023 results or Q1 2024 financial guidance at this time. This call is also being webcast with a supporting presentation and a replay and copy the presentation available on our website. I'll now turn the call over to our Chief Executive Officer, Peter Beck.
Peter Beck
executiveThanks very much, Colin. So I'm very pleased to confirm that we're being selected by the Space Development Agency to be the prime contractor to develop and operate 18 spacecraft and support of SDA is Tranche 2 Transport Layer. At over $0.5 billion in contract value, the award is our largest contract in the company's history. It affirms our vertical integration strategy across space systems and establishes Rocket Labs position as a leading satellite prime contractor, providing supply chain diversity to the Department of Defense and Commercial Constellation alike. Turning to the award specifics. The contract comprises a $489 million base plus $26 million of incentives and options. The bulk of the work is expected to be carried out through the next 3 years with the satellites due to launch in 2027. Rocket Lab will then handle operations of the constellation on orbit through to 2030, but the potential operations were carrying us through to 2033. As a prime contractor, Rocket Lab will lead the design, development, production, test and operations of the satellite, including procurement and integration of the payload subsystem. And the demonstration of a vertical integration strategy at work, all 18 spacecraft will feature subsystems and components built in-house by Rocket Lab, including solar panels structures, Star Trackers, Reaction Wheels, Radios, Flight Software, Avionics and are Launch Dispensers. The constellation will be built at our advanced spacecraft development and manufacturing complex in Long Beach, California. With the addition of the T2 Beta contract, we now have more than 40 spacecraft in backlog. We review the T2 Beta as a foundational win for Rocket Lab for several reasons. One, it confirms Rocket Lab's ability to capture high-quality, high-value work, thanks to our previous investments in the Space Systems business, both organic and inorganic. 2, it significantly derisks the growth and earnings outlook of our Space Systems businesses as well as the [ overall ] company; and 3, the work scope confirms Rocket Lab's role as a disruptive commercially developed new government prime. We will look forward to cement our position as a prime with this win and ongoing new opportunities. The Rocket Lab solves hard problems and shedding a little bit more color on the mission itself, SDA's Beta constellation will serve as the backbone for the Joint All Domain Command and Control infrastructure, providing low latency data transport, encryption and connectivity for a range of government missions [ there ], including the online of site targeting missile warning and missile tracking and advanced missile threats. This is the type of mission that Rocket Lab is extremely good at developing reliable technology that customers know they can rely on to deliver missions with tests for the nation. From leading humanities push back to the Moon with the Capstone Mission of the NASA to [indiscernible] James Webb telescope to design and delivering fast and affordable hypersonic launch capability. We're right through to building Globalstar's communication constellation, Rocket Labs launch and spacecraft solutions are key enablers for the global space market. We are honored that SDA has posed the trust enough to deliver a highly capable space graph for such a critically important constellation, and we look forward to working with the SDA team in the coming weeks, months and years as we bring this spacecraft to life. With that, I'd like to turn over the call to Adam Spice, who can discuss our Space Systems strategy and some of the dynamics to consider with respect to the budget outlook.
Adam Spice
executiveThanks, Peter. This contract is the culmination of our thoughtful and deliberate investment in our Space Systems business where [ why ] we either acquired key space technologies or invested in them organically as a means to deliver industry-leading quality, performance and schedule. In terms of these 18 satellites specifically, our Constellation award includes all of the subcomponents we've previously acquired or developed internally, including solar, Star Trackers, Reaction Wheels, Radios, Launch Dispensers and other critical technologies. We view this as a fundamental proof point of our investment strategy as well as the government's pivot to commercially develop space programs that are able to deliver best value for the customer and for taxpayers. Now turning to some of the related budget dynamics to consider. We [ view ] not just this award, but SDA's program portfolio as a whole as a generational growth opportunity for Rocket Lab. As you can see, from U.S. budget -- U.S. government budget forecast that can be found in the Space Force's program acquisition materials, it's clear that government budgets cannot just grow quickly with billions of dollars of opportunities, but that the outlook is increasing year-on-year as U.S. government continues to pivot to commercially develop satellite architectures. In addition to Beta, we view Rocket Lab is uniquely positioned to compete for and support other key programs beyond transport. While we prefer to take on the role of prime contractor as a means to have more control of the cost and schedule certainty, we'll also continue to be a critical partner to the broader space ecosystem as we alleviate key supply chain constraints, such as currently the case for space-grade solar capacity. And with that, I'd like to turn the call over to the operator for Q&A.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Erik Rasmussen of Stifel.
Erik Rasmussen
analystCongrats on the award. You may have -- Adam, you may have sort of alluded to this, but how should we think about this award and the business with SDA in the context of your Space Systems business. I mean, you are planning on targeting all the other remaining SDA tranches? Or how selective are you planning on being for that?
Adam Spice
executiveYes, Erik, we're always selective in the programs that we pursue. I think it's no different in the case of SDA. I think we believe that we've got some unique capabilities that can execute on specific elements of their overall program. And we do see there are other opportunities where we can add value to SDA. So we're certainly not stopping at Beta. We'll be continuing to make proposals and other elements of their initiatives. And we also think there are similar opportunities outside of SDA within U.S. government programs that we can bring similar kind of innovation and performance too. So yes, we're definitely not stopping at Beta, but I think this is a huge validation of the fact that these opportunities are real for Rocket Lab [ where ] we can do meaningful capture against those.
Erik Rasmussen
analystGot you. And so this gamma portion just went out for solicitation and I think responses are due in a couple of weeks. Can you confirm that you had put in a bid for that as well?
Adam Spice
executiveIt's not our practice to comment on things that we've kind of not proactively announced. So we're not going to respond to gamma at this point, but just there'll be more to come on that in the future.
Erik Rasmussen
analystAnd can you comment on how big the satellites are. You're obviously providing the buses and there's a lot of integration of all the components and subsystems that you've built and acquired. But are you also then supplying any of the payload?
Adam Spice
executiveYes, I'll let Pete take that one.
Peter Beck
executiveYes, yes. So as prime contractor, we are getting a number of suppliers and - to support the mission. So as a connected but is aware that Rocket Lab currently doesn't provide necessarily payload. So we have a good supplier for those as a prime contractor. And the spacecraft in kind of scale, it's not [ dissimilar ] in size to the SDA Globalstar platform. So sort of a few 100 kgs multimeter [ wing spend ] for solar, right?
Erik Rasmussen
analystGot you. And maybe my last one, Adam, just for you. What sort of gross margins are you targeting for this program? And then maybe as it relates to future business with SDA, what are the thresholds you need to preserve for your internal targets?
Adam Spice
executiveYes. So we've set out what our longer-term non-GAAP gross margin targets are for launch and for Space Systems. And I would say that this contract kind of fits within the overall modeling that we've done. I mean there are -- if you look at the -- across our portfolio of Space Systems offerings, we've got some materially, I would say, higher gross margin parts of our business, which are more, I would say, related to the merchant components that we sell into the market. Again, those usually come at pretty attractive gross margins. And then when we go to these larger total platform solution sales, we typically kind of model a lower gross margin profile than the merchant component sales. But overall, they come to a kind of that blended gross margin target that we long talked about, which is north of 40 points. But again, I think the overall model for Space Systems doesn't get changed by this is actually supportive of this. Again, I think -- but the overall gross margin is going to be highly dependent upon the mix of merchant component sales versus these more strategic large platform opportunities, which do come at a lower gross margin.
Operator
operatorGreat. Your next question comes from the line of Suji Desilva with ROTH MKM.
Sujeeva De Silva
analystAdam, congratulations on the win here. Maybe first on the revenue, the [ 49 ] for the deal size. How is that going to flow through Adam? Is that leaning toward when the satellites to delivered? Or is it relatively even throughout the 3-year life span of the work?
Adam Spice
executiveI wouldn't say it's even, but it will be recognized over the life of the work. So it's basically going to be modeled on and recognized on a kind of cost of completion. So yes, there are milestones, milestones for the most part, drive kind of cash collection and invoicing. Revenue recognition is driven by the amount of effort expended towards completing the program. So it will be more linear, we suspect than what we've experienced to date on the Globalstar MDA contract, but not entirely dissimilar. And this contract, like almost any other program like it is more back-end loaded. So again, more linear than the Globalstar MDA, but still back-end loaded. We do expect some revenue recognition from the program in 2024, but we'll speak more to that likely on our upcoming Q4 results call in February.
Sujeeva De Silva
analystOkay. And then the other question I have is on the capacity for satellite manufacturing. I'm just thinking you have 2 programs now more in the pipeline potentially. How should we think about the kind of capacity you have for building X number of satellites per year? Or is that not the right way think about it, it's more program-specific? How should we think about your capacity build out?
Peter Beck
executiveI can take that one Adam.
Adam Spice
executiveYes, okay.
Peter Beck
executiveSo we've made pretty significant investments in the manufacturing capabilities. So we recently moved all the engine manufacturing over to the new engine development center, [indiscernible] building and free that whole facility up facility upfront satellite manufacturing. So there's some small CapEx investments required, but largely that's all in place. And we have 2 [indiscernible] and of course, all of the Globalstar MDA. So we've really been scaling that over the last couple of years as [ evident ].
Operator
operatorYour next question comes from the line of Edison Yu with Deutsche Bank.
Xin Yu
analystCongrats on the win. Just a follow-up on the last question. Are we expecting the, I guess, the investment or expenses to have to ramp up a little bit before the rev rec picks up? Or how do we think about that aspect?
Adam Spice
executiveYes, Edison, I think they're largely going to be in concert with each other. So we're not expecting like a large upfront preloaded R&D element of this contract. It's pretty much going to go pretty much in tandem with the rev rec. So yes, it's -- from that perspective, it should be pretty coupled and linear.
Xin Yu
analystGot you. And then maybe can you provide a little color on the bidding process. What kind of key factors do you think may be the win? I know you highlighted vertical integration? And maybe were there any learnings that you took away from a Globalstar that sort of applied to this that gave you a better position, better edge?
Peter Beck
executiveYes, I can take that, of course that one, Adam. So I think there's a couple of key kind of things there. One is supply chain diversity, SDA and the US government in general is looking for more and more supply chain diversification in nontraditional commercial providers. Our execution history, of course, the type of spacecraft that we build are not trivial, simple spacecraft. We -- all of it if you look across all of the spacecraft we build, whether it's going to [ Mars ] or the Globalstar MDA, but they're all very, very difficult spacecraft. But that's where we kind of excel. And then our ability to partner with really discriminating payload and bring payload partners along that provide solutions that at the end of the day, that's where the rubber hits road.
Operator
operatorYour next question comes from the line of Jason Gursky with Citi.
Jason Gursky
analyst[ Can you bit ] really quickly. Can you talk a little bit about the scope of development that will need to be done on this relative to the overall program. And then maybe comment a little bit about where that development work has to happen? Is it software, hardware, kind of just describe the scope of the problem that you're all going to be solving as you go through this work?
Peter Beck
executiveYes. I mean, Jason, I'll probably describe it in the fact that this is kind of an [ iteration ] on a semi standard bus platform for us. So from a bus perspective, we're able to leverage a lot of the learnings from similar kind of complexity programs like [indiscernible] SDA Globalstar program. So for us, we're starting to get good at combining these elements and to kind of -- there's [indiscernible] of it, but truly standardized us, but as close as you can to a standardized platform. So as far as that kind of goes diversity or difference that's not tremendous. Obviously, integrating the payload and that's where all of the kind of the magic sources and making sure all those kind of elements can do they should in the spacecraft operate through a complete system. As you noticed from the award, we're not just building a bus. We're providing the entire solution and even operating it. So that's where the scope is a little bit different for us in the past.
Adam Spice
executiveI think, Jason, sorry, it's probably important to note that we're also exercising a lot of similar elements of the supply chain for this as with other programs. So there's a lot of, I'd say, synergies across kind of what we've done on other programs. So we're not having to reinvent the wheel. So a lot of kind of standing IP that's been developed not only for our internal supplied subsystems, but also from our subsystem vendors. And so I think that, that helps derisk the program and really kind of minimize the amount of kind of upfront R&D that I think was kind of alluded to by maybe a question from Suji earlier.
Jason Gursky
analystRight, right. Okay. Great. And then on the load itself, have you named the supplier? And apologies if I missed that. And have you worked with this particular payload of this provider in the past?
Peter Beck
executiveYes. Look, we haven't named the payload provider yet. I'm sure that will come out in the [ moment ] of time. And I think that is one of the key fundamental elements of being a good prime of building those good relationships with those payload providers. And so that -- I guess out of all of this program, that's the thing that I think is probably significant and important here is Rocket Lab has moved into a prime position rather than typically more typically at least a bus provider or elements of the spacecraft. This is Rocket Lab from being - very beginning to the very last bit of data that comes down from the spacecraft in many years' time.
Jason Gursky
analystRight. Okay. Great. That's helpful. And then maybe, Adam, last one for me since -- or since you brought it up, but maybe it's in response to a question, but the pipeline. Can you just talk a little bit more about maybe the size of the backlog that you guys -- I mean, the pipeline that you're all chasing and you emphasized in your prepared remarks, a little bit more emphasis on government work, and we all look at the same budgets that you do, and it's pretty clear the SDA budgets are going up into the right. So maybe what is that what is addressable to you all, I guess, in those government budgets that you're talking about. So how big is the pipeline there? And then on the commercial side, maybe just kind of give us an update on what you're seeing in the commercial market? And are there opportunities there as well in addition to the government work and I'll [ drop line ].
Adam Spice
executiveYes. Yes, Jason. So as far as the pipeline, yes, we normally don't talk too much about kind of size of pipeline because we kind of leave that to folks that haven't quite established the ability to kind of close on programs, which just speak to size of opportunities. So I would say that it is fair to say that we have proposals out on sizable programs that span the different agencies with the U.S. government and also some commercial opportunities as well. So our pipeline is large. We're chasing even larger opportunities that are represented by the specific contract. So I think as far as what's actionable as we're kind of within that overall U.S. government budget, I would say, we just got a lot larger, right? So I think this was our first time that we could close on -- as a prime, as Pete mentioned. And so I think at this point, we believe that we're able to address the most complex largest contracts that are available for bid. I think this firmly puts us in the same peer group as much larger, more established government primes, and again, just highlights our -- that the government believes we have the capabilities to execute on these very strategic programs. And on the commercial side, we are absolutely going after similar size, in some cases, larger opportunities to be prime for very complex missions. I would say that the government programs are a little bit easier to -- I would say nothing is easy to predict, but kind of have a little bit more confidence in because all these commercial programs, for the most part, are -- there's kind of financing risk involved with those. So I think that one of the reasons why we focused a lot on landing the particular SDA program and other government programs is even though there's never 100% budget certainty even within those U.S. government programs, there's a lot more certainty. And we really want to focus on building a high-quality backlog and pipeline that basically isn't a subject to the financing volatilities that have been experienced in this market over the last couple of years. So we do have a diversity of opportunities we're chasing. They're large in scale. And I think this is just kind of a validation of kind of the types of things that we can go pursue and actually close on.
Operator
operatorYour next question comes from the line of Garrett Reim with Aviation Week.
Garrett Reim
attendeeThis is Garrett with Aviation Week. I just wanted some clarification. This satellite bus -- perhaps you said it, but excuse me, this is the same one as the Globalstar satellite bus? And what's the satellite buses name? I mean just trying to get some understanding of what product this is.
Peter Beck
executiveYes, Garrett, it's a derivative of the Globalstar basis not the same. It's a derivative of. And I think your confusion is with our naming scheme is well understood, and I think we'll be able to resolve some of that shortly.
Garrett Reim
attendeeSo just to clarify, there's no name as of now for this product, no publicly announced name?
Peter Beck
executiveThere's no public announcement to the product.
Operator
operatorYour next question comes from the line of Andre Madrid with Bank of America.
Andre Madrid
analystYou talked a lot about the importance of vertical integration and winning the award. And with that thought in mind, how should we think about the prospect of Neutron potentially [ when you ] work on the launch side of this SDA work?
Peter Beck
executiveYes, Andre. Well, I mean, obviously, launch is yet to be good, but it's generally within the time frame that we hope that Neutron would be available and certified for [indiscernible]. So certainly, we'll be putting Neutron [indiscernible] as the launch - as a potential launch for this program.
Operator
operatorYour next question comes from the line of Micah Maidenberg with WSJ.
Micah Maidenberg
attendeePeter, just to step back a little, this is the biggest ever contract for Rocket Lab, this deal. It's in Space Systems. You've already got a bigger backlog as of the third quarter then launch there. Could you just explain a little bit having landed this how you're thinking about balancing the Space Systems business with launch just given the work ahead for SDA and the other space systems opportunities you guys have talked about on the call.
Peter Beck
executiveYes. Micah. That's a great question. So I mean the 2 kind of elements of the business run relatively independent to each other, although we do have some fungibility of resources that will kind of push and pull across different programs. But Space Systems is almost -- like I say, it runs different people, different facilities in general. So not really affecting, for example, the Neutron development program and the different facilities as well. But I think your question is actually important on a couple of other factors. -- we always see that the goal here is to ultimately provide services coming from the space. And you need -- in order to do that, you need launch, you need to be able to build spacecraft at scale, and you need to be able to deploy and operate those. And I think this is -- this winter is -- it's great for a number of reasons, but one, I think it really proves the model as well. Not only does it prove the vertical integration model. It proves that if you heavily - these supply chain elements internally, you can have supply chain certainty and diversity. -- but it also it [indiscernible] that ultimately, if you have -- you can build spacecraft at scale with complex spacecraft at scale and you have your own launch vehicle and you can play in a much bigger pie. And the fact that we're not just building the spacecraft, but we're going to be operating them kind of further goes to what we've been saying all along, which is ultimately we're going to provide service infrastructure from [ Hobart ]. And this is just the next methodical step along that journey.
Micah Maidenberg
attendeeBut just one quick follow-up, Peter. I mean do you think having Neutron in development helped you win this contract? I know you're going to put it forward as you just -- you said a moment ago because that's not part of this deal right now.
Peter Beck
executiveNo, I don't think that had a meaningful element to this contract win. I mean, we're evaluated on the spacecraft elements, not launch car - not launch element.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] Your next question comes from the line of Aria Alamalhodaei with TechCrunch.
Aria Alamalhodaei
attendeeCongratulations on this contract. There's been much talk on the call about vertical integration. I'm curious, Peter, are there any other subsystem components that you think are sort of ripe for acquisition or that remains the biggest bottlenecks to building spacecraft at scale?
Peter Beck
executiveYes. And to answer to your question earlier, yes, I think there are. And we'll continue to be opportunistic in those potential acquisitions, but also we continue to invest heavily in developing some of our own capabilities in those areas. So I think the large successful space companies in the future are going to be able to do a lot of that stuff in-house at scale. -- and we continue to invest in those things. [ At least ] the follow-on question that people ask what are they? And I'm kind of [ evident ] to go into during details on this call, but there are some obvious elements that if you pull part of spacecraft that still - Rocket Lab purchases from other folks and supply chain constrained. So we'll look to further derisk those either through acquisitions or organic development in coming year.
Operator
operatorAnd your next question is a follow-up from Andre Madrid of Bank of America.
Andre Madrid
analystYes. One follow-up, if I may. If you look at the contract value per SAT relative to the other awardees for Tranche 2, it looks like it's actually higher on a per SAT basis. Is there something unique to the platform or your offering that's driving that discrepancy? I think I did the math, and it's about like [ $20 million ] per SAT for you guys versus the others, which are probably high teens, low 20s.
Peter Beck
executiveAndre, I mean, the kind of way to think about this is what's the value for the government. It's a very complex payload in the spacecraft. And of course, you have some economies of scale we're talking not dozens and dozens of satellite. So there is some economy of scale that kick in when you sort of 25-plus spacecraft. So down at the number that we're building, you lose some are currently to scale. But I would say it's cross between that and also a deeply capable space part.
Adam Spice
executiveI think, Andre, also, I think each bidder and each person that goes after has different things they bring to the table. I think the fact that clearly, the government customer, in this case, valued some of the uniqueness that we brought at the table. Again, what we strive for is not just to be cost competitive, but also to derisk kind of program time lines and deliverables. So I think everyone is in a different position to kind of realize value based on what they bring to the table. And I think in this case, we brought sufficient value to the table in areas that the customer really valued in order for us to win the award. So we're always looking at ways to bring down costs. And I think as Pete mentioned, scale is one of those things. And as we continue to kind of go after larger and more awards from these types of customers, I think we'll be able to bring more of those synergies to the -- to our bids. And again, hopefully, that the customer realize kind of the lowest total cost and highest quality platform.
Operator
operatorThere are no further questions at this time. This will conclude today's conference call. We thank you for joining. You may now disconnect your lines.
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