Royal Bank of Canada (RY) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
April 7, 2022
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Annette Sabourin
executiveWelcome to the 2022 RBC Annual Meeting of Common Shareholders. [Foreign Language] Hello. I'm Annette Sabourin, Dene-Cree from Northern Manitoba, and I'm the Regional Vice President for Vancouver Island in the beautiful British Columbia region that is home to 204 distinct indigenous nations. I acknowledge the land I'm situated on is a traditional, ancestral and unceded territory of [indiscernible] people, the [indiscernible] who's historical relationships with the land continue this day. As we all come together remotely from coast to coast to coast, may we all honor the indigenous territories we are on and recognize that indigenous peoples are the stewards and guardian of the land. And therefore, before we start this meeting, I would like to reflect on the importance of acknowledging the land and the unique sacred connection that indigenous people have to the land, and nurtured respect that encompasses the relationship with all living things. Here at RBC, we acknowledge that we are settlers in the spaces we work, play and live in. And for more than 25 years, RBC has been committed to the reconciliation journey and prosperity and inclusion for indigenous peoples through our commitment to the Truth and Reconciliation Commission's Call to Action # 92. We know the decisions we make today in creating a world of mutual respect, sustainability and shared values has a direct impact not only on our generation but for the generations to come. So my ask of all of you is to learn more about the proud journey taken by indigenous people, seek out new storytellers to revisit the path, ask difficult questions and learn from the legacy of the mistakes from our shared path and the lesson we are now all seeking out a pack for a better tomorrow. Let us together with indigenous peoples tell a new story, a story of truth, understanding and respect. After all, history belongs to the children. [Foreign Language] Thank you. It is now my pleasure to welcome and introduce Kathleen Taylor, Chair of the Board of Royal Bank of Canada.
Kathleen Taylor
executiveThank you very much, Anette, and good morning, ladies and gentlemen. [Foreign Language] Ladies and gentlemen, good morning, and welcome to the Annual Assembly of Common Shareholders', Annual Meeting of Common Shareholders. I'm Kathleen Taylor, and I have the privilege of being Chair of the Board of Royal Bank of Canada. As notice of the meeting has been duly given and a quorum is present, I call the meeting to order. After 2 years of meeting virtually, we intended to hold our Annual Meeting of Shareholders in person as well as via a live webcast online. Unfortunately, we had to quickly move to a virtual-only format. This change resulted from confirmation of a positive COVID-19 case, which has impacted a number of annual meetings staff members and participants. Throughout the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic, we have prioritized the health and well-being of our employees, clients, shareholders and communities, and we remain steadfast in this commitment. That said, I am glad we are still able to connect with all of you virtually this morning. Thank you for joining us. [Foreign Language] As always, the meeting will be conducted in English and in French. Karen, could you please explain how participants may select the language of their choice.
Karen McCarthy
executiveGood morning. If you're using the Lumi web platform, you can select either English or French to listen to the webcast. If you wish to change languages, click on the language button shown on the right side of the platform. If you're listening by telephone and wish to change languages, you must dial up and dial back in using the phone number, which corresponds to the language of your choice as indicated on our website and on Page 11 of the circular.
Kathleen Taylor
executiveThank you, Karen. This morning, I'm accompanied on stage by Dave McKay, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Karen McCarthy, Senior Vice President, Associate General Counsel and Secretary. I will act as Chair of the meeting, and Karen will be our Secretary. Pina Pacifico and Kate Stevens, officers of our transfer agent, Computershare Trust Company of Canada, will be our scrutineers. Also joining us remotely, our directors and members of senior management. As always, we welcome questions and comments from shareholders and proxy holders. [Operator Instructions] I'll now ask Karen to outline the rules of conduct for the meeting and explain how to ask questions. Karen?
Karen McCarthy
executive[Operator Instructions] For information on how this meeting will be conducted, please refer to the rules of conduct, which are available on our website and on the Lumi platform.
Kathleen Taylor
executiveThank you, Karen. After my introductory remarks, we will hear from Dave McKay, our President and Chief Executive Officer, followed by the matters of business, including the election of directors and the appointment of our auditor. Shareholders will also be asked to approve a nonbinding advisory resolution on our approach to executive compensation. We will then consider the shareholder proposals and deal with any other business, and we will conclude our meeting with a question period. Please take a moment to review the caution regarding forward-looking statements provided on your screen. This caution can also be found on the inside front cover of our proxy circular. At this meeting, we may make forward-looking statements, which involve certain assumptions and have inherent risks and uncertainties. Actual results could differ from these statements. I want to start my formal remarks this morning by expressing our deep and profound sorrow for the people of Ukraine. Their suffering is immense, senseless and heartbreaking. [Foreign Language] First, I would like to express our deep and profound sorrow for the people of Ukraine, who have been suffering. Not only tragic but it also adds to the complexity and rapid change happening all around us from the pandemic to geopolitical dynamics to our warming planet. For RBC, it's never been enough to keep pace with the opportunities and challenges that emerge from disruptive forces. As Dave will note in his remarks, the bank also pursues new and meaningful ways to help clients thrive and communities prosper. In short, RBC grows purposefully by focusing on what matters most to those we serve, both today and over the long term. That's why the health, safety and mental well-being of RBC's 87,000 colleagues remained a key priority for the bank in 2021. It's also why additional resources were provided to help RBCers adapt and thrive in the rapidly evolving world of work. My gratitude goes out to every employee who never lost focus on serving others. In addition to an unwavering support for clients, RBC continue to build more inclusive, sustainable and prosperous communities. In 2021, RBC's multi-stakeholder approach contributed to the bank's strong performance. Earnings of $16.1 billion represent an increase of $4.6 billion or 40% from the prior year. The earning power of RBC across all of its business lines also signals a successful calibration between management's strategic plans and risk appetite, 2 key priorities for the Board. As always, in 2021, the Board engaged with management on all business segments, and in some cases, subsets of these business segments to ensure plans were carefully developed appropriately balancing strategic opportunities with risk discipline. Culture and conduct are an important part of this equation as well because they underpin how employee actions align to RBC's purpose, values and growth strategy. Directors oversee the tone from the top, and along with management and shore bank values are embedded into RBC's strategy and commitments. A key focus for the Board last year was to provide oversight of the bank's climate strategy to transition to a Net Zero world. [Foreign Language] One of the main objectives of the Board last year was to ensure that we monitor RBC climate blueprint in order to accelerate the Net Zero transition. The devastating consequences of our warming planet on society, the economy, ecosystems and the plants and animals that live in them are well understood. A global consensus to tackle climate change has taken root. Canada has signed on to an international agreement to substantially reduce global greenhouse gas emissions and RBC is actively aligning its Net Zero targets to support our national ambitions. RBC's plan will support clients in their own Net Zero journey and will ensure the bank is publicly accountable for its actions, including the disclosure of financed emissions and reduction goals in key sectors. RBC will also continue to contribute meaningfully to help governments, business and consumers can move forward in a coordinated way. The Board is actively engaged with management on the direction of RBC's climate strategy, so that the risks and opportunities are reviewed and understood. This includes an assessment of the measurements and milestones necessary to gauge our progress in the years ahead. We also make sure the interest of the bank's stakeholders, including our shareholders, are considered. Another core responsibility of the Board centers on talent. Directors regularly meet with and access the capabilities and leadership of RBC's top talent. Obviously, the pandemic has required us to add virtual sessions into the mix. Yet all engagements have proved valuable in fostering meaningful discussions between Board members and bank executives. These efforts have helped contribute to a seamless succession of the bank's new Chief Financial Officer, the appointment of a Chief Legal Officer reporting to the CEO as well as the assumption of responsibilities for RBC Ventures by the Group Head, Personal and Commercial Banking. More broadly, in terms of advancing the diversity and inclusion agenda at RBC, it's critical the Board and management move in lockstep. To this end, we work closely with management to set the right aspirational targets and make sure the right measurements are in place. In all of this, the Board maintains an open and coordinated approach with management. For the Board's part, last year's appointment of Roberta Jamieson, as an RBC Director, underscores the inherent value in bringing more voices from different backgrounds to our table. I'm proud to say that 40% of Board members are women and 23% are indigenous and people of color. In the second year of the global pandemic and against the backdrop of significant change, RBC stayed focused on what matters most to those we serve. And by doing so RBC once again demonstrated the inextricable link between its purpose and performance. [Foreign Language] In the second year of the global pandemic, RBC stayed focused on what matters most to those we serve. RBC, once again demonstrated the inextricable link between its purpose and performance. Indeed, that's the hallmark of the bank's history and the foundation of its future. The Board believes the strong momentum generated last year and the differentiated strategy that guides RBC will continue to deliver value for its stakeholders, including shareholders over the near and long term. On behalf of my fellow directors, I want to convey our continued support for Dave McKay and his executive team and express our ongoing appreciation to each and every RBCer who demonstrates the bank's purpose and values through their everyday actions. I also want to thank our directors for their invaluable contributions and of course, our shareholders who continue to show their confidence in the bank's growth strategy and the important contributions, it helps -- it makes in helping clients thrive and communities prosper. Thank you very much. And I'm now going to turn our session over to Dave McKay to provide his remarks to shareholders. Dave?
David McKay
executiveThank you, Katie, and good morning to all of you joining us virtually. We certainly hoped today's event would be in person and part of what has been an encouraging return to some familiar patterns of life, reconnecting with friends, colleagues and clients. And yet, our pivot to virtual is another reminder that so many people continue to experience significant challenges and disruption due to COVID. And shockingly, over the past number of weeks, we've witnessed a new crisis of global consequence, the baseless war in Ukraine, like so many government and business leaders around the world, I condemn Russia's invasion. I'm deeply concerned about the threat this presents the global peace and stability and humanitarian impact in the region and beyond. RBC moved quickly by donating $1 million to support humanitarian efforts as well as the refugee crisis. Like all of you, my thoughts are with everyone affected, and we'll continue to consider ways to help those in need. It's clear we're living in a world where momentous change and disruption have created a new set of complex challenges for society, economies and businesses to manage. This includes geopolitical tensions, rapid inflation, energy shortages, global supply chain issues and a virus that's not yet eradicated. Over the past 2 years, we all came to know what it was like to not be able to see beyond tomorrow, to not know what lay around the corner. In the face of these dynamics, the world will be shaped by those with a clarity of purpose and a conviction to both act today and prepare for tomorrow. RBC is guided by our purpose, helping clients thrive and communities prosper. Our purpose defines not only who we are, but also how we compete, grow and build a more sustainable future. With our purpose, as a North Star, even in the face of change, we see great opportunities for RBC and a promising path forward. I am confident because of our scale and financial strength and also because of the combined strength of our people and culture, our outstanding client base, our industry-leading technology and our prestigious brand. That is what has allowed us to grow for over 150 years, and it's how we will continue to adapt to accelerating change from changing customer needs, and new challenges in the digital world to cyber threats and geopolitical risks. We manage short-term challenges while keeping our focus on our long-term goals of delivering more value to our customers, employees, shareholders and communities. This is also how we address broader societal issues, such as climate transition and economic inclusion. True to our story, RBC is committed to playing a leading role in helping to accelerate the pace of change. Looking ahead, I am optimistic that we can build a stronger Canada for the end of this decade and beyond. A country with a thriving economy in a troubled world, with stronger and more inclusive communities, a country that also contributes to a healthier planet. But to get to the next decade and beyond, we will need new rules of the game, stronger public, private partnerships, a greater capacity to invest in the future. And the patience to plan and execute strategies with a long-term focus. Before I talk about the future, I would like to talk about the past year and the foundation of our success that keeps our bank moving forward. Looking back on 2021, I'm most proud of how our 87,000 employees led RBC through continued change, stepping up for clients and communities while supporting each other. Despite a work environment challenged by lockdowns, RBC's empathy, care and commitment to those we serve only grew and was the most powerful reflection of our purpose. Nowhere was this truer than RBC's annual employee giving campaign where our employees raised $23 million for over 5,000 charities. I'm so incredibly proud of how our employees contribute to their communities and society more broadly. This is a key ingredient to our employer brand alongside our investments in career growth and development. This combination creates an exceptional employee experience and employee engagement that exceeds top global firms we benchmark ourselves against. Importantly, it was their high levels of engagement and deep support for clients, which drove RBC's outperformance in 2021. And gives us tremendous confidence in the future. Across Canadian Banking, insurance, wealth management, including City National and Capital Markets, all our teams deliver differentiated advice and offerings. That's earned RBC record client volumes and more new business than in prior years. In Canadian Banking, for example, we added over $35 billion in mortgages and $22 billion in personal deposits in 2021. This led to market share gains in both these important client relationship products. Clients recognize our employees' efforts and ranked us #1 in customer satisfaction as measured by J.D. Power. Strong client volumes and growing market share were consistent themes across many of our other businesses and these results showcased the benefits from our significant investments in talent and technology. RBC's performance also reflected an improving credit environment and our prudent approach to risk and cost management. All of this helped translate into record financial performance in 2021. We earned net income of $16.1 billion and earnings per share growth of 41% year-over-year. We delivered $6.2 billion in dividends to shareholders and increased our quarterly dividend by 11% in Q4. Since announcing our normal course issuer bid in December 2021, we have actively resumed share buybacks in line with our commitment to drive long-term value for our shareholders. Overall, we met all our medium-term financial objectives, including earnings per share growth, and we outperformed our global peer group on total shareholder returns over the 3- and 5-year periods. Moving to 2022. Our underlying business momentum and robust activity resulted in RBC delivering a very strong first quarter. We earned $4.1 billion, our second highest on record. Our capital position supported $1.7 billion in dividends to our largely Canadian shareholder base as well as almost [ 9 million ] of share repurchases. In aggregate, we returned nearly $3 billion to our shareholders. I'm proud of the fact that Moody's upgraded our credit rating to AA1 amongst the highest globally. Looking ahead, we see opportunities to further extend RBC's leadership position. Being client first is one of RBC's core values. It all starts with building deep long-term relationships with our clients, putting them at the center of everything we do. This means anticipating their evolving needs, growing our relevancy to them and providing a wider range of value-added services and experiences. It's fundamentally about building our business from the client in. And we do this by leveraging the power of our size, operational and data scale and strong balance sheet to deliver differentiated value today and also build for the future. This approach is the hallmark of how RBC has become the largest bank in Canada by market capitalization and a top bank globally. Let me share a few examples of how this comes to life. In Canadian Banking, where we hold #1 and #2 market share in all key product categories, our strategy is to drive frictionless client experiences and deliver more value enabled by significant digital investments. For example, we created MyAdvisor, a free digital advice platform. Since its launch in 2017, close to 3 million clients have activated their personalized investment plans. Another core tenet of being client first is rewarding clients for their relationship with us. Through RBC Vantage, for example, clients are now using their personal debit cards to earn RBC reward points for the first time. A unique and differentiated element of our strategy is building ecosystems that go beyond banking to enable RBC to participate in a client's life journey in a broader way. Through RBC Ventures, a start-up incubator within the bank, we are creating solutions to meet a wider array of customer needs. We have 14 ventures in market from early stage to national scale up that have attracted over 4 million new connections to RBC. Ownr is a great example. It's a digital platform that enables Canadian entrepreneurs to start, manage and grow their businesses. Ownr has launched more than 70,000 new Canadian businesses and driven close to 30,000 new RBC small business accounts since its inception. And there's Mydoh, a digital app with a smart cash card that helps kids learn and practice money management. This RBC Venture has already reached 55,000 Canadian parents and children. In addition to building these new initiatives, we're also boldly moving ahead with other ventures that are looking to shape the future of e-commerce. While Canadian Banking represents over half of our bank earnings, our client and approach extends across our core businesses and defines the success of all our other market-leading franchises. In Canadian Wealth Management, we lead the market with a client-centric approach by delivering holistic wealth of advice at scale, including wealth planning for families. Through investments in technology, we equip our advisers with digital tools and data-driven insights for their clients and deliver an unmatched adviser experience. Our Global Asset Management business is also a market leader and continues to enhance its product offerings for clients, including in the growing area of ESG while delivering leading investment performance. In Capital Markets, we have also continued to build our business around our clients and have now become the ninth largest investment bank by fees globally. We build deep relationships with clients and provide global capabilities and an innovative approach to serving their complex and evolving needs. As 1 example, we were the first Canadian bank to set up a sustainable finance business. And today, we are a top adviser to businesses and governments in this important and growing sector. We're continuing to invest by strengthening our talent and M&A in key verticals like technology and health care, which positions us to win key client mandates. Turning to City National Bank. Our business has tripled over the past 5 years by focusing on the evolving needs of commercial and private banking clients, and investing in technology and operational infrastructure, including mobile banking and treasury management platforms. City National has also launched and is rapidly expanding its mid-market commercial banking strategy, which has already generated $4 billion in loans. In U.S. Wealth Management, we have modernized our business by building and scaling new advisory and secured lending platforms while adding more products and talent to support clients and drive future growth. The combination of these 2 franchises, along with capital markets, provides a strong platform for continued growth in the U.S., our second home market. And with the strength of our capital position, we have significant financial flexibility to invest in organic growth, further share buybacks and also explore acquisitions that align with our strategy and geographic footprint. Just last week, you saw us announce a deal to buy British wealth management firm, Brewin Dolphin, which will make us a top 3 wealth manager in the U.K. These are just a few examples of the RBC way, how we anticipate, adapt and build for the future through a client in strategy. And we bring the same approach to help tackle some of the societies biggest issues and opportunities. While I remain optimistic about the economy, economic recovery, the road ahead won't be without challenges, and we need to ensure any bumps along the way don't divert us from the journey towards a more sustainable future. So let's start with where we are. The Canadian and global economies entered 2022 with strong economic activity and employment numbers. However, the invasion in Ukraine and inflationary worries, along with supply chain disruptions, labor shortages and rising interest rates have scaled back growth forecast for this year and next. RBC Economics estimates there is a $310 billion in excess household savings and a further $110 billion excess corporate savings in Canada. And in the U.S. that number is $4.3 trillion. Those savings have the potential to be a catalyst for significant short- and long-term economic growth, but also further inflation including price trends in real estate that have been exacerbated by the lack of affordable housing. To productively manage this excess surplus, we need policies that encourage savings to flow into productive investments. This will require a better approach to public-private collaboration because we know markets can't solve all these challenges on their own nor can government. So we need a plan that enables business and government to work together in ways that respect when each other does best, one that supports and celebrates risk-taking, entrepreneurship, and innovation and get it done attitude. Nowhere is this more important than addressing climate change. The Canadian government has laid out an ambitious plan for a country to quickly cut emissions aligned with the Paris Agreement. This plan will lead to a massive shift to this decade in the cars we drive and the way we feel our homes. It will push sectors, notably oil and gas, which accounts for roughly 10% of our national economy to invest tens of billions in new carbon capture technology. And we'll require farmers to capture and cut emissions even as they expand production and export to meet growing global demand. This could be the story of Canada's decade to dramatically cut greenhouse gas emissions while also selling lower emission products to the world. RBC's recent report, the $2 trillion transition estimates we will need to mobilize $80 billion a year or about 4x what we now invest in the climate transition to get there. To help create a more robust investment in climate for the Net Zero economy, we will also need public and private capital to support both growth and the green transition. That's why investment and tax policies as well as incentives must be considered. Now is the time to put excess capital to work and invest in the entrepreneurs and innovators who can develop technology, scale production and sell those green solutions to the world. For our part, RBC is fully committed to supporting a Net Zero emissions economy by 2050. That's why we introduced our 4-pillar climate strategy last October, which details the role RBC will play. First, we'll work closely with our clients on their Net Zero strategies by expanding our products, services and client solutions, highlighted by our $500 billion sustainable financing commitment. I'm encouraged that so many indigenous communities are helping lead this long-term transition. Taking up ownership positions and energy projects and pipelines and adding traditional knowledge to ensure the transition is just and orderly. Second, we're holding ourselves accountable to evolve our Net Zero business plan, disclosed financed emissions and publish emission reduction goals for clients in our oil and gas, power and utilities and automotive and transportation portfolios, which we plan to do this fall. This work aligns with our commitment to Net Zero emissions and our lending by 2050. Third, we'll inform and inspire our communities to get to Net Zero. We'll do this by publishing research on climate issues and policies, championing climate literacy and awareness and fostering climate innovation. This includes our pledge of $100 million by 2025 through RBC Tech for Nature. This program supports universities and charities developing solutions to address climate change. And fourth, we have committed to reduce global emissions in our own operations by 70% by 2025. This approach supports Canada's ambition to lead the world through a balanced energy transition, which brings me to another key area of focus, people. Canada has a lot of advantages that make us a destination of choice for top talent, but to meet Canada's broader growth agenda and respond to the climate challenge, we need to transform the way we learn and train Canadians on the skills and innovation required for the future. For example, a recent RBC report called Green Collar Jobs, calls out the potential impact on 3.1 million jobs in the next decade and the need to build the kind of workforce required to drive the Net Zero transition. We will need Ottawa and the provinces, along with employers to enhance Canada's approaches to immigration, reskilling and certification for a Net Zero economy. In response to the need for a skills revolution, we created RBC Future Launch, our 10-year $500 million commitment to focus on the future of work. I'm proud that we've increased our future launch goal to now reach 4 million young people with tools, scholarships and partnerships to help youth prepare for this new age of opportunity. Our schools, colleges and universities have responded with important strides that make Canada's education system among the world's best. But if we don't remodel the way we teach and learn, we won't succeed. An example of a new model is the business in higher education roundtable, an organization, I'm proud to chair. Here, as it's called is a coalition of employers and educators focusing on the future of learning, including how students can gain more relevant experience while they're in school. We have helped target -- we have helped a target to secure 40,000 work-integrated learning placements, and we'll soon try to expand that through international students who are so critical to Canada's future labor force and economy. [indiscernible] is also focusing on how to ensure our excellent colleges and universities can help all Canadians develop the skills they will need for the ongoing digital revolution and energy transformation. We believe a national skills commitment needs to be at the center of our Net Zero strategy. Across all of these themes I've touched on, success will be defined by how we work together, something Canadians are good at, particularly in times of uncertainty. In doing so, we can create prosperity and jobs for Canadians and position our economy for long-term sustainable growth. To close, let me go back to where I began. Those with a clear purpose and strong principles will prevail in both the short and the long run. And I believe RBC is well positioned to do just that, to grow and create even more value for all of its stakeholders. We have the best people, ideas and technology, supported by a globally-trusted brand. Our scale and market-leading client franchises enable us to continue making bold investments to reimagine the role we play with new and existing clients. And we'll continually strive to grow in an inclusive and sustainable way. The combination of our performance, momentum and a building sense of optimism around a sustained recovery gives me confidence in the future. I want to thank each and every one of our employees for their contributions to living our purpose, particularly over these past 2 years. Their efforts have made us -- have made all the difference. I also want to thank our investors and shareholders for placing your confidence in RBC. And finally, I want to thank Katie Taylor, our Chair, and the entire Board of Directors, whose ongoing support and guidance is helping RBC build a more prosperous future for all those we serve. Thank you. And I'll now turn the meeting back to Katie.
Kathleen Taylor
executiveThank you, Dave, for that terrific presentation. At this time, I'd like to introduce [ Carol Cornwall] , Sam May and Nicolas Marcoux, the representatives of PricewaterhouseCoopers, our auditor, for the 2021 fiscal year who are also joining us remotely. As indicated in our proxy circular copies of the auditor's report and the financial statements are included in our 2021 annual report, which can be found on SEDAR and EDGAR as well as on the websites of RBC and Computershare. Shareholders will now have an opportunity to ask questions on the financial statements. If your question relates to a matter other than the financial statements, please wait until the time provided for shareholder questions following the formal legal business of the meeting. Karen, are there any questions or comments on the financial statements?
Karen McCarthy
executiveNo, we have not received any questions.
Kathleen Taylor
executiveThank you. We'll now proceed with the business of the meeting. You've received the notice of meeting, which outlines the matters to be considered today. The notice of meeting is also included in our proxy circular, which is available on our website and on the Lumi platform. I'll now ask Karen to review the voting procedures.
Karen McCarthy
executiveThank you. Registered shareholders and duly appointed proxy holders will be voting online. The meeting resolutions are being displayed on the website. To vote, tap 1 of the voting options available. Your vote will be automatically submitted to Computershare, our scrutineers, after you click on your choice. Votes may be changed up to the time voting is closed. If you do not press for, withheld, against or abstain as applicable when voting is open, your vote will not be recorded and you'll be regarded as having abstained from voting. The poll will remain open until the Chair of the meeting declares voting on all matters closed. Preliminary results will be announced later today, and final results will be posted on our website. A simple majority is required to approve matters voted on at this meeting.
Kathleen Taylor
executiveThank you, Karen. I declare voting on all matters open. To facilitate proceedings, I've asked Karen, who is also a shareholder, to move all motions. I'll call on her at the appropriate time. We'll now proceed with the meeting's first item of business, which is the election of directors. Your Board places strong emphasis upon the selection of director candidates by assessing the Board's existing strengths against the evolving needs of RBC. An important element of our process is ensuring that a diversity of viewpoints, backgrounds and experiences are present at the Board. This year, the number of director nominees has been set by the Board at 13. Biographies of each nominee begin on Page 14 of the circular. One of the nominees Roberta Jamieson is standing for election for the first time this year. Until 2020, Ms. Jamieson was the President and Chief Executive Officer of Inspire, a Canadian indigenous charity that invests in the education of First Nations Inuit and Métis people. From 2001 to 2004, she was Chief of the Six Nations of the Grand River territory, and she also served for 10 years as the Ombudsman of Ontario. Roberta was the first First Nations women to earn a law degree in Canada and is an officer of the Order of Canada. We welcome the wide-ranging insights and experience that Roberta brings to RBC, and we are very pleased to welcome her to our board. I'll now ask Karen to nominate the individuals proposed for election as directors.
Karen McCarthy
executive[Foreign Language] [Interpreted] I am pleased to nominate each of the following persons to be elected as a director of the bank to hold office until the close of the next annual meeting of common shareholders or until their successors are elected or appointed: Toos Daruvala, David Denison, Cynthia Devine, Roberta Jamieson, David McKay, Kathleen Taylor, Maryann Turcke, Bridget van Kralingen, Thierry Vandal, Frank Vettese and Jeffery Yabuki.
Kathleen Taylor
executiveThank you, Karen. Are there any questions or comments on the nominations?
Karen McCarthy
executiveNo, there are no questions or comments on the nominations.
Kathleen Taylor
executiveThank you. I declare the nominations closed, and we'll now proceed with the vote. The next item on the agenda is the appointment of our auditor. I'll ask Karen McCarthy to make a motion for the appointment of the auditor.
Karen McCarthy
executiveI move that PricewaterhouseCoopers be appointed the auditor of the bank until the close of the next annual meeting of common shareholders.
Kathleen Taylor
executiveThank you, Karen. Are there any questions or comments on the appointment of the auditor?
Karen McCarthy
executiveNo, there are no questions or comments.
Kathleen Taylor
executiveThank you. We'll now proceed with the vote. Next item of business on the agenda is the shareholder advisory vote to our approach to executive compensation. The text of this advisory resolution is set out on Page 7 of the circular. We hope that you've had a chance to review our compensation discussion and analysis in this year's circular, which explains in detail how our compensation programs are designed to pay for performance and are aligned with effective risk management practices and the long-term interest of our shareholders. We take a progressive approach to continuously improving our compensation programs, integrating best practices and responding to input from our independent compensation adviser and our shareholders. In considering our approach to compensation in the future, the Board will take into account the results of today's vote, together with other feedback received from shareholders. I'll now ask Karen to make a motion to approve this resolution.
Karen McCarthy
executive[Foreign Language] [Interpreted] I move on an advisory basis and not to diminish the role and responsibilities of the Board of Directors, that the shareholders accept the approach to executive compensation disclosed in the management proxy circular delivered in advance of the 2022 annual meeting of common shareholders.
Kathleen Taylor
executiveAre there any questions or comments on the advisory vote on executive compensation?
Karen McCarthy
executiveNo. There are no questions or comments.
Kathleen Taylor
executiveThank you. We'll now proceed with the vote. At this point in the agenda, we'll move on to the shareholder proposals. Shareholders have had an opportunity to read these proposals and the Board's responses, which are set on in the circular starting on Page 95. There are 8 proposals that are being put to a vote today. We very much value the engagement we have had with proponents and with other shareholders through this process. The first proposal was submitted by Claudia Campbell and Will Horter, represented today by investors for Paris Compliance. Mr. Matt Price, of I for PC is on the phone to present the proposal. Mr. Price, thank you so much for joining us. I would ask that you take a few minutes to speak to the merits of the proposal, and we'll then open the floor for discussion. Mr. Price, please go ahead.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeGood morning. My name is Matt Price. I'm with investors for Paris Compliance. We track Net Zero commitments made by publicly traded companies in Canada with a view to accountability. Thank you for your time today, and thanks also to RBC for its engagement on this proposal. As we track the activities of the large Canadian banks on Net Zero, we find that RBC has the farthest to go, but is making the slowest progress. RBC is the largest lender to fossil fuels in Canada, fifth in the world, lending over $262 billion to fossil fuel activity since the signing of the Paris agreement. But unlike other large Canadian banks, RBC is yet to set any 2030 targets and is yet to account for its downstream or Scope 3 emissions as required by its membership in the Net Zero banking alliance. The core part of RBC's climate strategy is its $500 billion commitment to sustainable finance by 2025, which is a welcome step given the critical need to invest in economic transition. But because of vague definitions of what constitutes -- counts as sustainable and an inadequate risk management framework for this business segment, RBC is participating in deals in this program that actually increase emissions, the opposite outcome of that expected. For example, in February, RBC acted as a joint bookrunner on a sustainability-linked bond issuance by the oil and gas company, Tamarack Valley Energy. What the Tamarack did with the money? They used it to acquire another oil and gas company, thereby enabling an expansion of production and expansion of emissions. Or last year, RBC participated in both the sustainability linked loan and bond with Enbridge during the height of the Line 3 pipeline controversy. That expansion project was equivalent to adding 50 qualified power plant emissions. Line 3 was also vociferously opposed by local indigenous peoples who's fought it in courts and in protests that resulted in hundreds of arrests. RBC is a signatory to the Equator Principle that are supposed to uphold free, prior and informed consent of affected indigenous peoples. But RBC's compliance release principles is repeatedly in question not only with Line 3, but with other projects such as Coastal GasLink and the Trans Mountain pipeline. You could say these deals represent only a small part of RBC's sustainable finance program, but just as a single drop of oil is enough to pollute 100 liters of water. These examples are enough to foster cynicism about RBC's sustainable finance program and raised the reputational risk for the bank. We note that there are protests at RBC branches across the country today. To its credit, RBC has indicated that is open to reviewing and updating its approach sustainable finance as the market evolves, and that's what this proposal has [indiscernible]. The simplest solution is for RBC to finance fossil fuel activities via traditional finance subject to its Net Zero commitments and to reserve its sustainable finance for other work. There's no such thing as sustainable fossil fuels, not even if they're produced by carbon capture and storage because the vast majority of the emissions occur when they're burned. And RBC needs to come into compliance with its Equator Principle commitments and uphold the free prior and informed consent to indigenous peoples affected by its financing, not just to support sustainable finance but for all it's finance. For these reasons, we encourage shareholders to vote for this proposal. Thank you for your time.
Kathleen Taylor
executiveThank you, Mr. Price. Karen, are there any questions from online participants on this proposal?
Karen McCarthy
executiveThere are no questions, Katie.
Kathleen Taylor
executiveThank you. We'll now proceed with the next 2 shareholder proposals. Proposals 2 and 3 were submitted by B.C. General Employees' Union which is represented today by Ms. Emma Pullman, who is on the phone to present these proposals. Ms. Pullman, thank you for joining us. I'd ask you to take a few minutes to speak to the merits of each of the proposals, and we'll then open the floor for discussion. Ms. Pullman, over to you.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeThank you so much. Good morning, fellow RBC shareholders. I am here to present first the proposal #2 on behalf of the B.C. General Employees Union, that proposal can be found on Page 96 of the Management Information Circular. This proposal asks RBC to assess and mitigate the human rights and reputational risks involved in the financialization of housing. Now if you haven't heard the term Financialization of housing yet, I promise you were going to hear a lot of it moving forward. This Wall Street model is gaining prominence and involves companies buying single-family residences and converting them to rental stock. This relies heavily on bank financing, both through syndicated loan facilities and mortgages. The syndicated facilities require banks to collaborate on due diligence and other aspects of loan assessment and administration. This business model has been the subject of a lot of controversy and have made headlines in the Washington Post and New York Times to name a few. Canadian developer has already started importing this Wall Street business model into Canada by purchasing hundreds of single-family homes in Ontario for the purposes of renting them out at a profit. This developer seeks a $1 billion Canadian residential real estate portfolio with 4,000 units and eventually an IPO. Given the potential for adverse human rights impacts, we ask, does RBC have the human rights due diligence practices in place to adequately mitigate risk? We do not believe so. RBC's human rights risk mitigation procedures that it describes in its response to our proposal, are vague in general. RBC also argues that it cannot collaborate with other banks on human rights due diligence issues. However, BCGEU filed the same financialization of housing proposal at BMO, another bank and competitor. This proposal and engagement had a very different outcome. After meaningful dialogue with BMO, we were able to withdraw the proposal, after BMO acknowledged the potential for the financialization of housing in the single-family residential sector in Canada and committed to evaluating and enhancing its due diligence processes. BMO also took a different position than BMO, seeing the room for collaboration between banks and agreed to raise the topic with the appropriate industry group. RBC's reluctance to be a leader in this area is disappointing. Therefore, be it resolved that shareholders request RBC take steps to assess and mitigate the human rights and reputational risks involved in the financialization of housing including acknowledging that housing is a human right and collaborating with leading Canadian banks to develop a human rights due diligence tool that can be used to assess and mitigate the right -- the risks of doing business with clients or potential clients whose business practices have the potential to exacerbate the negative effects of the financialization of housing in Canada. We urge shareholders to support this resolution. Thank you. And I think I should keep going, and I will move straight on to our next proposal. Again, this is a shareholder proposal #3 found on Page 98. This proposal asks RBC and its business units to not participate in or enable pollution intensive asset privatization transactions, specifically by not accepting any new mandates to provide financing, lending or M&A advisory services to these transactions. Public companies with pollution intensive assets like coal, oil and gas, and the banks that help finance them are facing increasing pressure from institutional investors with ESG concerns. Public issuers are beginning to sell off these including assets. Increasingly, the only buyers for these assets are private enterprises, which are not subject to the same disclosure requirements of public companies were the same avenues for pressure from institutional investors. RBC has set a goal of achieving Net Zero by 2050 by setting interim finance emissions reduction targets. But I will note, M&A mandates for pollution intensive asset privatizations don't factor into finance emissions. That's why we feel this proposal is so well timed and important. Greening a corporate balance sheet isn't the same as greening the climate. And when an asset moves into the hands of private equity, the climate impacts are the same at the end of the day. In its response to our proposal, RBC states that placing arbitrary limitations on certain prospective parties in a transaction will not meaningfully contribute to achieving carbon reduction goals and will instead have the potential effect of limiting capital in the system that could support the transition. However, RBC already places limitations on the types of transactions in which it will engage. This includes coal mining, energy development in the Arctic, exploration and development in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and exploration and development at UNESCO World Heritage sites. Our proposal is simply asking RBC to impose similar restrictions on pollution intensive asset privatization. Therefore, be it resolved, so as cannot facilitate adverse environmental impacts in connection with the sale of coal, oil and gas assets from public companies to private enterprises, shareholders' request RBC and its business units do not participate in or enable pollution intensive asset privatization transaction. We urge shareholders to support this resolution. Thank you so much.
Kathleen Taylor
executiveThank you, Ms. Pullman. Karen, are there any questions on these 2 proposals?
Karen McCarthy
executiveNo, we have not received any questions on these proposals.
Kathleen Taylor
executiveThank you. We'll now proceed with the next shareholder proposals. [Foreign Language] [Interpreted] The other 4 shareholder proposals that are being put to a vote was submitted by Mouvement d’éducation et de défense des actionnaires. MÉDAC, which is represented today by Mr. Willie Gagnon, who is here on the phone to present these proposals. Are also included in the circular are 6 other proposals that MÉDAC submitted but withdrew following discussions with RBC. We very much appreciate your ongoing engagement. Mr. Gagnon, [Foreign Language] [Interpreted] I would ask that you take a few minutes to speak to the merits of each of the 4 proposals that are being put to a vote. We will then open the floor for discussion. Mr. Gagnon, you may now proceed.
Unknown Attendee
attendee[Interpreted] Good morning, Chair. I would just like to make sure that you can hear me. So I will move forward. My name is Willie Gagnon from the Mouvement d’éducation et de défense des actionnaires or MÉDAC, which is a shareholder of RBC. We're here as every year. You have received a large number of proposals from MÉDAC. So I am going to spend some time and I'll be as succinct as possible. Our proposal, first proposal, number four, becoming a benefit company. It is proposed that the bank includes in its statute that it should respect its purpose, and this should be in the bank's statute so that if it wants to change it, it should have a general meeting. We have had, for example, the National Bank of Canada that decided to do so. And proposal #5 is about an advisory vote on environmental policy. There is an advisory vote on compensation, for example, and there should be an advisory vote on environmental policy. A number of companies already have this practice like Glencore, CN, CP, Shell, Unilever, and we would invite you to apply this best practice as well because environmental practices will become something important in the future. And therefore, there should be an advisory vote so that shareholders can express their opinion on the environmental policy. We have sent as to all companies of which we are shareholders to include another proposal about language and specifically the issue of the French language. We would like the bank to have regulations that forces us to take into account French as the official language. We do not say that RBC is not behaving properly in terms of language, but we want to have provisions in order to have it. For example, having special general meetings in order to include this in its statute. Some companies, including bank hold AGMs only in English, and there are sometimes some language issues. So -- and also, we have sent you a proposal on circular economy. We would like the bank to join the principles for responsible banking, like BMO on the National Bank or Desjardins. We want the bank to join the Leadership Canada in the circular economy. We know that the bank has joined the United Nations Environmental program, but we do not know why it isn't joining the Leadership Canada program. We are not submitting this proposal to other banks because they decided to join such organization. But we urge shareholders to support this proposal #7. So as far as I understand, these proposals are going to put to the -- to be put to the vote, and I'll be able to talk about the withdrawn proposals a bit later. Is that right?
Kathleen Taylor
executiveMr. Gagnon, I think it would be great if you could speak to them now while you're on the line.
Unknown Shareholder
shareholder[Foreign Language] [Interpreted] We sent this proposal, and we said that the disclosure practices of the bank in terms of women in management, we asked them to give more specific information -- quantitative and qualitative information. And we saw that the bank's practices were not perfect. But they were good practices, and we actually used the practices of RBC to show as an example, what could be done by other banks. So that's why we decided to withdraw this proposal. We thought that this -- your presentation was very good. The next proposal was about decarbonization. We wanted the bank to have intermediate targets about the weight of its investments and loans in fossil fuels. And the bank committed to doing so through the TCFD, among other things. So we are very concerned by news about Greenpeace reports that says that Canadian banks have increased their support to fossil fuels by 70% in 2021. So we're going to follow this up, but we haven't asked for a vote on this proposal. And Proposal D is to create an environmental and climate action committed to a proposal by Mark Carney, former Governor of the Bank of Canada and the Bank of England and the UN Special Envoy on Climate Action and Finance, who asked that businesses should establish a Board level committee with specific responsibility for overseeing climate change. The bank said that the climate change was a responsibility for all committees of the Board. We were asking for a specific committee to be struck, but we've decided not to put this proposal to a vote. And the bank has accepted on the basis of our proposal on purpose to integrate this responsibility into the governance committee work. And we will want the bank to comply with its purpose as written in your response. And this is why we have decided not to put this proposal to a vote. And finally, we were asking in Proposal F that ESG skills of directors should be included in the skills table of directors. And from your answer from your response, we see that the whole of directors already have such skills and that they will be included in a table in the future, just like we can see in the circular. So I invite shareholders to have a look at the circular. And that's it. That took a bit of time, I am sorry. But the reason why there were so many proposals is that there is an accumulation of issues, not only because of the crisis but also because of the specific situation we're in at the moment. Thank you very much, Chair.
Kathleen Taylor
executive[Foreign Language] Thank you very much, Mr. Gagnon. Thank you so much. Karen, are there any questions on these proposals?
Karen McCarthy
executiveThere are no questions on these proposals.
Kathleen Taylor
executiveThank you. We'll now proceed then with the last shareholder proposal. Proposal #8 was submitted by Vancity Investment Management, which is represented on the phone today by Ms. Kelly Hirsch. Ms. Hirsch, thank you for joining us. I'd ask that you take a few minutes to speak to the merits of the proposal, and we'll then open the floor for discussion. Ms. Hirsch, over to you.
Unknown Shareholder
shareholderThank you, and good morning. Thanks for having me here. I'll just give a little background here as to why we really think this is an important. We appreciate the dialogue we had with RBC on this. And just wanted to go over a bit why we really think this is an important disclosure for RBC to provide. So economic inequality has been steadily increasing since the 1970s. A major contributor to this inequality is the increasing gap between what executives are being paid and what the larger workforce is being paid. In 1978, the average CEO pay in the U.S. was only 31x higher than the average worker's pay. This is now skyrocketed to 351x. Canada is not immune to this phenomenon. In 2020, CEO pay at the top 100 companies on the TSX was 202x the pay of an average worker. Wages are still diverging with average pay increases for executives, at 17% from 2019 to 2020. This compares to only 4% for the average worker over the same time period. This highlights that the value being created by companies is increasingly accumulating at the top of the organization, which is driving wealth and inequality more broadly. On the society level, this growing inequality leads to poor outcomes for individuals across those economic devices. Much research has shown that unequal societies are associated with poor health, more violent, a lack of community life and increased rates of mental illness across socioeconomic classes. Specific to RBC's operations, compensation gaps within an organization lead to lower employee morale, which can destroy company value as unmotivated employees are less likely to perform at their best and generate value for an organization. This can also lead to higher employee turnover, which is a significant cost for organizations, especially for human capital-intensive companies such as RBC. It's critical to recognize that the ratio from single year is not the focus. In order for the ratio to be useful, investors, employees and management need to see the trend over time. This allows RBC to ensure the wage gap is not widening. If it is, as has the tendency for the past few decades, this tool will be critical to identify that and make corrections to ensure employee sentiment stays positive, preventing turnover, costs and decreased productivity. This disclosure is already a requirement in the U.S. and the U.K., and there are well-established methods, including some outlined in GRI reporting standards to calculate and provide this disclosure. We firmly believe it is possible and in the best interest of RBC and the company's shareholders to begin tracking and disclosing the CEO to median worker pay ratio. Therefore, we proposed the Board of Directors undertake a review of executive compensation levels in relation to the entire workforce and at reasonable cost and omitting proprietary information, provide a report to shareholders and publicly disclose the CEO compensation to median worker pay ratio. Thank you very much.
Kathleen Taylor
executiveThank you, Ms. Hirsch. Karen, are there any questions on our last proposal?
Karen McCarthy
executiveYes, we do have a question from Mr. Gagnon on the say on pay. And [ Mr. Lino Zenbo ] will read this question.
Kathleen Taylor
executivePlease go ahead.
Unknown Attendee
attendee[Foreign Language] [Interpreted] My name is Willie Gagnon. I'm taking the floor on behalf of MÉDAC. MÉDAC is a shareholder of RBC. The Bank of Nova Scotia, now publishes its pay ratio. It is the first bank that is doing it here in Canada. We've been asking for this pay ratio for years, if not decades. Apart from the Bank of Nova Scotia, Desjardins also publishes it -- has been publishing its pay ratio since 2016. It is a best practice that presents a vertical analysis of compensation. Will RBC publish its pay ratio at some point? If so, when? If not, why? Thank you.
Kathleen Taylor
executiveThe Board's response to shareholder proposal #8 was set out in the circular. And so not to take too much time up today, but just to reiterate, that the Board takes very seriously its responsibility to oversee both executive compensation and the overall well-being of RBCers at RBC. We do, of course, note and do take note of the -- of all of the data that goes into what's happening inside the bank, including as we note in the circular, looking at the vertical pay ratio, but just as 1 data point. There are so many data points in a very complex, as you can imagine, both organization and process. Also note in the circular that executive pay is much more in percentage terms trended to pay at risk, which is quite different from median employees. And so we do think that there is a lot of complexity behind this request, and we'll continue to have our dialogue with you and with others on our approach to executive compensation. And as I say, I'll turn shareholders to the detail of our response to this proposal and the answer to your question on Page 105 and 106 of the circular. Thank you. Are there any further questions, Karen?
Karen McCarthy
executiveNo, there are no further questions.
Kathleen Taylor
executiveThank you so much. We'll now proceed with a vote on all the shareholder proposals. If you've not yet voted on any of the other business items on the agenda, please do so now as well. [Voting]
Kathleen Taylor
executiveI'm just taking a moment here to make sure that everyone has a chance to put their votes in on the Lumi platform. Terrific. As we've now dealt with all the business items on the agenda, I declare voting on all matters closed. The world is entering a powerful age of ideas as we begin to rethink and rebuild in a new and rapidly changing era. Recently, RBC repositioned the brand around ideas through our new brand platform, ideas happen here. This position asserts our biding belief in the power of people and their ideas to help clients thrive and communities prosper. And now I'd like to share a video to showcase some of the early work. [Presentation]
Kathleen Taylor
executiveI've been informed that the scrutineers have now completed their preliminary tabulation of the votes cast in respect of each of the items on the agenda. I'll now ask Karen to speak to the preliminary voting results. Karen?
Karen McCarthy
executiveThe scrutineers have reported that 52.8% of eligible shares have been voted at this meeting. According to the scrutineers' report, I am pleased to report that all 13 directors named in the circular have been elected with over 90% of the votes in favor. PricewaterhouseCoopers was reappointed as our auditor with 99% of the votes in favor. The advisory resolution on the approach to executive compensation was passed with 95% of the votes in favor. And the shareholder proposals were not approved. Proposal 1 on updating sustainable finance criteria received 8% of the votes in favor. Proposal 2 of the finalization of housing received 22% of the votes in favor. Proposal 3 on avoiding bank participation and pollution intensive assets privatizations received 6% of the votes in favor. Proposal 4 on becoming a benefit company received 5% of the votes in favor. Proposal 5 on an advisory vote on the environmental policy, received 20% of the votes in favor. Proposal 6 on French as an official language received 1% of the votes in favor. Proposal 7 on the circular economy received 18% of the votes in favor. And Proposal 8 on the disclosure of the pay ratio, received 13% of the votes in favor. Final detailed results will be posted on the bank's website and on SEDAR.
Kathleen Taylor
executiveThank you, Karen. Ladies and gentlemen, that completes the formal business of our meeting today. Let's now move on to the question period. Before we begin, Karen, could you please remind us how to ask questions during the question period.
Karen McCarthy
executive[Operator Instructions]
Kathleen Taylor
executiveThank you, Karen. Do we have any questions on the Lumi platform?
Karen McCarthy
executiveYes, we do. Katie, we have a question on the line from Emily DeMasi.
Kathleen Taylor
executiveVery good. Thank you, Karen. Go ahead, Ms. DeMasi.
Emily DeMasi
shareholderI thank the Chair members of the Board and fellow shareholders. My name Emily DeMasi, and I work for EOS at Federated Hermes. I'm here on behalf of our institutional investor clients who own CAD 4.6 billion in Royal Bank of Canada equity, effectively making them the bank's third largest shareholder. We are also active participants in the Institutional Investors Group on Climate Change, IIGCC. IIGCC investor expectations for the banking sector include aligning the bank's financing with the delivery of the goals of the Paris agreement, governance of climate risks and opportunities and the bank's disclosure of its climate governance, strategy, risk management approach and metrics and targets to be in line with the recommendations of the TCFD. Today, I would like to address the bank's climate strategy as it relates to a just transition as we consider this important for the long-term success of Royal Bank of Canada. We appreciate the bank's Net Zero by 2050 target and its climate blueprint, which details its strategic priorities for building a sustainable future. We also acknowledge the bank's interim goals to reduce absolute GHG emissions by 70% with a baseline year of 2018 and an increased sourcing of electricity sourced from renewable and non-emitting sources to 100%, both by 2025 to help drive its Net Zero operation strategy. We also appreciate RBC's commitment to working with clients and communities to achieve Net Zero in a socially inclusive transition. But we note there is no explicit mention of communities in its strategic priorities, actions or commitments. Special consideration and plan should be detailed for communities most adversely affected by the fossil fuel industry. Our concern here is that as other financial institutions withdraw from these activities, a concentration of risk may occur within the Canadian banking sector. To mitigate against these risks, banks should be working with communities towards achieving a just transition. This engagement will support RBC and navigating risks and opportunities within the low carbon transition with respect to environmental justice and human rights. I ask the Chair, will Royal Bank of Canada explicitly commit to achieve a just transition with specific attention to impacts and opportunities for its key stakeholders, including workers, their families and the communities most impacted by the low carbon transition? And will this commitment be supported by sector-based decarbonization targets aligned to 1.5-degree Celsius and reporting on the specific actions the bank will take to achieve the just transition, including clarity on how borrowers own commitments, capacity and strategy to achieve the just transition is factored into financial decision-making? Thank you.
Kathleen Taylor
executiveThank you very much, Ms. DeMasi for your very important question. As you heard Dave speak about and we've referenced in many of the materials that the Board has approved for release as part of our climate Blueprint, a coordinated response to climate transition and a just approach to climate transition is a hallmark of a good transition. And I think if you have a chance, everyone to look through RBC's commitments, you can see there that this is well taken into account. Dave spoke extensively about this in his remarks earlier as well. So perhaps I'll ask him to elaborate a little bit further about how management is thinking about these issues going forward.
David McKay
executiveThank you, Katie, and thank you, Ms. DeMasi for that really important question. The principle of an orderly, inclusive and just transition is so important because I think one of the real risks of this very complex journey we have to get to Net Zero in 2050, is the risk of a disorderly transition. And therefore, how we approach the transition of our economy is so important. So we're committed to that principle. That principle means engaging on this complex journey with all stakeholders, with government with, to your point, with communities, with organizations and with corporations, with NGOs. It is a journey, a complex journey that we all must work together on. And to your point, we are going to play a lead role and an important role in supporting that transition of our communities. Now specifically, when we talk about a just transition to your question, there's a number of things that we're focused on in helping support a just transition in our communities, which are so important. And as you know, it's a part of our purpose, helping clients thrive and communities prosper. So it's very much in the spirit of our North Star to do that. I'll just highlight a couple of initiatives given the time we have. But the first one is really around the talent that we're going to need to make this transition and training a new green workforce, you've heard in our skills report, we're going to need 3.1 million impacted jobs. How do we build the green economy through the incredible talent that we have in this country. It feeds into our RBC Future Launch commitment, our $500 million commitment, and it feeds into helping define the types of roles we need. Furthermore, to support that, we started to create different innovation hubs around the country, whether it be in Halifax or Alberta, where there's different sources of energy at play to create an expertise and to invest in the future. The second role I'd like to highlight that we play is really the strong advisory role. Advisory role from consumers through to large corporations and advisory roles that really help indigenous communities and advocate for their economic participation in this journey is so important in an adjust and inclusive journey to your point. Some of those advisory roles that we've taken on most recently, whether it's with Suncor and Fort McKay and the Cree First Nation partnership on the East Tank farm project. Another one was a power transmission line, 51%, which is owned by 24 First Nations. A sale of the Clearwater Seafoods' premium brands to a coalition of Mi'kmaq First Nations. So playing an advisory role, making sure it's an inclusive transition that economic participations are so important. So thank you for your question, but it's very much part of our purpose and very much part of the principles that we like to see in a multi-stakeholder journey.
Kathleen Taylor
executiveThank you, Dave. Karen, are there additional questions?
Karen McCarthy
executiveWe do, Katie, we have several questions. The first question is on a written question from Roger Straathof. With the recent announcement by the federal government to move forward with open banking, what do you consider to be the opportunities and challenges for RBC?
David McKay
executiveSo open banking is an important construct. We've been an active participant in the journey in helping define and really customize and tailor a made-in-Canada solution to open banking. There's all open banking constructs in a number of other markets in Europe and Australia, in particular, but very much working in partnership with government, which is so important to talk about what is the Made-in-Canada solution. And I think there are a number of core principles that we're trying to put in place that I think are really important. The client around privacy and the right to their own data and data at the center of everything they do in their lives, ensure efficiency, innovation and competitiveness of the system, ensure that all federally regulated and nonregulated entities are guided by consistent rules and consistent policies because right now we have a significant portion and a growing portion that will be aided by an open banking system fall outside of the regulatory environment and very much advocating for an inclusive regulatory framework that includes all participants in this system. So I think based on that foundation, based on those rules, we feel very confident in a fair system, a system that benefits Canadians and a system that we think RBC is going to prosper with.
Kathleen Taylor
executiveThank you, Dave. Karen, over to you for additional questions on the platform.
Karen McCarthy
executiveYes, we have a question on the line from Amelia Meister.
Kathleen Taylor
executiveGo ahead, Ms. Meister.
Unknown Shareholder
shareholderCan you hear me?
Kathleen Taylor
executiveWe hear you perfectly.
Unknown Shareholder
shareholderWonderful. I am not sure if this is a process that can happen, but I am aware that there are 3 Wet'suwet'en chief in queue right now to ask questions and I would like for their questions and their time for their questions to be answered before mine, if that's possible. So that we ensure that their questions are asked in the time allotted. Is that -- will there be time for their questions? And can I -- if not, can I defer my question until theirs' has been answered.
Kathleen Taylor
executiveI'm happy to defer your question until after the next few questions are taken. And again, we'll just remind folks, there's a lot of people on the line, so if everyone can follow Karen's advice, 3 minutes for your question and give me and Dave a chance to respond. So we'll go to the next question in the queue. Thank you.
Karen McCarthy
executiveYes. Katie, we have on the line John Ridsdale.
Kathleen Taylor
executiveMr. Ridsdale, welcome. Over to you. Mr. Ridsdale? Go ahead, Karen, with the next one then.
Karen McCarthy
executiveOn the line, we also have Mr. Fred Tom.
Kathleen Taylor
executiveMr. Tom, are you there? Let's carry on and we'll see if people can re-queue with the technology.
Karen McCarthy
executiveSo we have a...
Kathleen Taylor
executiveSorry, is that Mr. Tom?
Unknown Shareholder
shareholderCan you hear me?
Kathleen Taylor
executiveYes, could you please give us your name and tell us whether you're a proxy holder or a shareholder.
Unknown Shareholder
shareholderThis is Fred Tom, Chief [indiscernible] clan. I have a question to the shareholders. RBC human rights [ position ] statement states that RBC will, we will strive to avoid parsing or contributing to advise human rights impact to our own business activity and we'll aim to prevent in any case adverse impact on which we may be directly linked to taking appropriate action. RBC is funding or construction of a project that will run beneath the pristine, drinking water and spawning ground river within [ Qua ]. This is a headwater through all the rivers [ comes through ] which we all nations Sun river rely on that salmon. Not only there's a CGL have no evidence or signs mitigate impact on drinking water but according to BC Environment Assessment Office, they have already violated nearly 2 dozen sediment erosion permit conditions. The damage that has been done to our [indiscernible] river and wetland forest has already been impacted. Our ability to hunt our moose and other wild life we rely on, every time, we ask questions about how we're working to impact our land. They say, we'll look into it, and get back to you, but they never get back to them. Meanwhile, RBC is bank rolling the destruction of our last clean drinking water resources, the river where our salmon have been spawning for thousands of years. This pipeline defies the [indiscernible] of our young people by affecting their ability to teach themselves and practice their culture. How is RBC being accountable to this policy, their shareholders, their human rights, and the rights of our young people by continuing to fund the Coastal GasLink pipeline. That's my say.
Kathleen Taylor
executiveThank you for your question. I'm going to ask Mr. McKay to address the meeting.
David McKay
executiveWell, thank you, sir, for joining us today and speaking with such passion and conviction. And expressing your concerns, let me assure you, first and foremost, that RBC only supports projects that are environmentally and socially responsible. Specific to your point around the Coastal GasLink's project, it has been extensively reviewed and approved by regulatory and government bodies and meets the obligations related to free and informed prior consent of First Nations. This pipeline is important to, I believe, and communities along the route of this pipeline, all 20 communities, the reconciliation and the economic inclusion of First Nations on this journey to the point where all 20 elective First Nations have approved this and has the support of hereditary leaders along the route. In addition, 16 of the 20 nations along the coastal gasoline route have taken the option to have an economic interest. And if you look at a number of participants along that line, I'd like to read you a couple of quotes from First Nation leaders, one from Chief Crystal Smith from Haisla Nation. "Companies like LNG Canada and Coastal GasLink pipeline, which will supply with gas, came to Haisla and delivered what we needed for century, a share and a say." From Chief Sharleen Gale, the Fort Nelson First Nation and Chair of the First Nation's major projects coalition. She's quoted to saying, "First Nation's major projects coalition is proud to assist our 11 member First Nations in bringing this deal across the line. Our efforts truly represent First Nations helping First Nations succeed in business. And I want to congratulate our members for working together to make this historic achievement reality." So I know there are divisions within parts of the community, and I know it's important, and we respect that the First Nation's need to resolve the disagreements within their own community. We're certainly willing to play any role if asked to help mediate those discussions and participate and support those discussions. But coming back to my original point, this project has been extensively reviewed and approved by regulatory has the support of the vast majority of First Nations elected and hereditary leaders, and RBC will continue to support it for those reasons.
Kathleen Taylor
executiveThank you, Dave. Karen, could we go to the next question on the platform.
Karen McCarthy
executiveWe have a question online from Mr. John Ridsdale.
Kathleen Taylor
executiveMr. Ridsdale, please go ahead with your question.
Unknown Shareholder
shareholder[indiscernible] I am the highest ranking chief. [indiscernible] was First Nation, we're a 22,000 square kilometers of unceded non-treaty lines. My question is, I understand that RBC has a due diligence process aimed at identifying, analyzing and mitigating where possible risk to their investments. The First Nation legal and government systems is one of the most researched, recognized and documented and includes our own history of private and public school systems. Trial evidence in the Supreme Court and academic articles and books by anthropologists and [indiscernible] and even colonial institutions like the courts and universities. The Supreme Court accounted a ruling in December 11, 1997, [indiscernible] affirming that hereditary clan governance system is and has always from the government body, authority over our lands. After the court ruled that [ Wet'suwet'en ] had never extinguished title for our land, presidential government and treaty negotiations with the hereditary chiefs not the [indiscernible]. It seems impossible that a financial institution such as yourselves could so blatantly ignore the existing type of [indiscernible] governance with certain laws and continued kind of a denial of indigenous rights, which have resulted in the genocide of certain people for the last 150 years. How did RBC due diligence process failed to identify the current opposition of the Wet'suwet'en hereditary chief. And how will you take the accountability for this grave mistake and make the shareholders aware of this. [indiscernible].
David McKay
executiveThank you, sir, for again, speaking with such passion and conviction. And I want you to know that RBC is strongly committed to fostering truth and reconciliation with Canada's indigenous peoples. And we are engaged with these issues with a full heart. As I responded to the previous question, we only support projects that are environmental and socially responsible. And this project has been extensively reviewed and approved by regulatory government bodies, the BC government in question and meets the obligations related to free informed prior consent. To my point, all 20 nations along the route, all 20 elected in hereditary leaders, including Wet'suwet'en elected leaders have approved and support this project because it's good for the economic development. There are opportunities in supply agreements to create further economic development within the communities along this route, 10% participation, 16 of the 20 First Nations have already taken up that option. And therefore, to the quotes I read in the previous question from a number -- from 2 very senior chiefs of First Nations along the route. The support is there from the elected and hereditary leaders. And to your point, there are disagreements within your community. And there are forms being organized by the BC government to deal with some of the questions that you raised. And we encourage the communities, and this is the feedback I've received from leaders -- 20 leaders across the country that we have to give space and we have to respect the First Nations culture to solve these problems within their community. And I do not believe RBC should impose its view. The elected leaders across and 20 leaders have spoken on this program. And therefore, given that it's received all approvals, given that it supports reconciliation, given that supports economic development along the route, given that all 20 elected leaders have supported this and hereditary leaders. Those are the conditions which we view we should support, and it's not for RBC to take away from all those communities that support this their ability to have that economic prosperity. And therefore, we support this project.
Kathleen Taylor
executiveThank you, Dave. Karen, we'll now go to our next question.
Karen McCarthy
executiveNext question is from the line at Jeff Brown.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeOkay. My name is Jeff Brown, or hereditary chief for the Gidimt'en clan from the house [indiscernible] of dropping the trail. And where this pipeline is going through is on Gidimt'en land. And I'll give you a short intro. RBC and Coastal GasLink claim they support their reconciliation in indigenous people and have consulted with a First Nation along the route to Coastal GasLink project. The statement is unfounded when considering the rightful holders of the land and the immense amount of violence to indigenous people, and the environment that have already occurred at the hands of the RCMP, CGL and RBC. We uphold the Wet'suwet'en hereditary chief, our sole titleholders of the 22,000 square kilometers. Our unceded territory, [ Arjenta ], our land has been the home of thousands of years of governance structure is hold then the law of Canada used to oppose, oppress, persecute, this genocide against our people. We continue need to occupy the sovereign territory in the titleholders. RBC Coastal GasLink have no right to choose when to recognize our sovereignty. We are sovereign. We are Wet'suwet'en. We decide in our [ peace talk ] that no pipeline will be built on Wet'suwet'en. This project will never be completed on our territory. It's already years behind schedule and $4 billion over budget. Investments in this project will never see a profit because of our lack of due diligence on the sovereign rights of our nation. I will have you informed, shareholders of RBC, involvement in this project only jeopardizing the investment until you stop enabling destruction of our indigenous lands and culture. Thank you for -- let me just as a -- you say you got a commitment from the indigenous people, but they've never once have spoken to the hereditary chiefs. You say you have the backing of hereditary chiefs, but you don't. The 1 chief that implicated to Wet'suwet'en hereditary chief was an elected official. Thank you.
David McKay
executiveThank you, sir, for expressing your concerns on this, really important. And I know emotional issue. And I think as I've answered in the previous 2 very senior leaders who have asked questions, I'm not going to repeat my answer. You raised a lot of the answer in your question around the support -- the broad support that this project has because of the economic inclusion, because of the benefits to the communities along the way. And we recognize there are disagreements within some of the communities. But I'd like to read you a quote from a hereditary chief in the Wet'suwet'en First Nation, Chief Theresa Tait Day. And her quote is, as a nation, we need to start a healing process. We need to build our community and we should look for opportunities from industry and we shouldn't be fighting every opportunity that comes for -- to our table -- for consideration. Our feeling is that these are people from outside of province, we should like them to go home and leave the decision-making of these projects to the Wet'suwet'en people. We don't need outsiders help. And therefore, I think as part of the reconciliation journey, we need to respect the community's ability to resolve these issues internally -- and to the point I made, I know there's a number of forms, including the BC government is trying to bring these forms together. So therefore, thank you for your question. Thank you for your participation in today's meeting. And my answer is the same as the previous 2 questions.
Kathleen Taylor
executiveThank you, Dave, and thank you, gentlemen, for all being with us today and speaking so eloquently to the issue. As promised, I'm going to go back to Ms. Meister, who asked for her question to be delayed until after your 3. And so Ms. Meister, if you're still on the line. Over to you.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeI am still on the line. So I represent over 2,000 RBC shareholders who are some of us members. In the fall, several of those shareholders attempted to file a proposal that was rejected due to word count. I will now present some of the concerns raised within that proposal and ask Mr. McKay and the Board to respond. Investors recognize RBC's recent climate commitments, including a Net Zero by 2050 commitment in line with the Paris agreement with interim targets yet to be released and its membership to the [ PICA ]. Investors also recognized the $500 billion commitment in sustainable finance that RBC announced at the same time. However, RBC continues to have significant exposure to fossil fuels. RBC remains the fifth largest funder of fossil fuels in the world and the fifth for most funding of new fossil fuel projects since the Paris agreement was signed in 2015. Additionally, RBC lands in the top 40 of core funding coal power. Continuing to fund fossil fuel companies and projects will ultimately prevent RBC from reaching a Net Zero commitment unless RBC makes significant and urgent changes. The IPCC's 2021 report states that more than 1.5 degree Celsius warming will have significant impact on frequency and severity of extreme weather events, which lead to catastrophic economic, social, health and environmental outcomes. The International Energy Agency's 2021 report outlining the path to Net Zero by 2050 stated in order to achieve a maximum 1.5 Celsius warming by 2050, there must be new -- no new development of fossil fuel assets of any kind. Public outcry and protests against RBC have highlighted our corporation's role in the climate crisis, which presents significant reputational risk to shareholders should RBC be unable to take urgent and bold action to meet its climate targets. Therefore, shareholders request that RBC adopt a policy of not financing new fossil fuel supplies, including financing of companies exploring or developing undeveloped oil and gas reserves by the end of 2022 across all markets and regions. This is definitely, as your new branding video just stated, an idea whose time has come. When will RBC implement it? Thank you.
David McKay
executiveThank you for that question and voicing your concerns. We do believe that climate change is one of the world's and our country's most pressing issues. And we are fully committed to achieving our Net Zero emissions. I think to the first point, on the principles we talked about already today is around an orderly and inclusive transition. And this is a transition in emissions, not financing. And a number of the numbers that you put out there were a mix between financing and market activity of moving capital in society, and it's really a different metric. And that's why when we talk about measuring emissions because this is about an emissions transition that we're focused on global standards like TCFD and other standards. So I think in PCAP being a particular -- and when you see us in our most recent TCFD report and the Scope 1 and 2 emissions that we did articulate based on global standards of emissions. So I think from that perspective, this is a transition and an orderly transition that we need from -- an emissions from where we are today in Canada, 700-plus megatons to Net Zero by 2050. That is completely aligned to how the Canadian government has articulated its climate plan and how Minister Bo spoke to the most recent IPCC report that the government plan is to transition to a Net Zero emissions economy. And that's going to require financing and capital to be moved in society to fund new technologies to fund projects that allow us to make an orderly transition because my biggest fear is we can't be unsuccessful in this journey. We have to be successful to Net Zero. But the biggest risk, as I talked about in my speech, is a disorderly transition and we're already seeing that risk manifest itself in Europe right now with the Russian aggression in invasion and a war against Ukraine and a disruption in energy markets and the rethinking of energy sources, much higher carbon emitting sources than we were previously going to use because of those risks. So an orderly transition and a thoughtful and planned transition allows us to leverage the assets in Canada. There's no reason why Canadian energy can't displace higher GHG emitting energy in other countries. It's part of a global journey and therefore, a planned journey. So this is not about a financing journey that you pointed out, and I think you're focused on the wrong -- this is -- our government has set the bar -- the Paris Accord has set the bar. This is about an orderly and energy secure emissions journey. And therefore, that's how we should measure it. We should measure it with global standards as we're doing, and we should commit to that journey, which we've done. And you'll see further targets against the emissions, we're going to need capital up to $2 trillion of capital to make this journey. And we can play a significant role, part of it, the $500 billion in sustained financing we have, but we're going to have to move $2 trillion of capital around the Canadian economy and facilitate that to effect a secure journey towards -- and we should celebrate that and not criticize it because if you criticize it, that's -- we're focused on the wrong variable. This is a missions journey that requires energy security for every nation. And without that, we risk the entire journey.
Kathleen Taylor
executiveThank you, Dave. I would just add, Ms. Meister, that, as I said in my opening remarks, a key focus for the Board this year and last has been working with management on the journey, obviously, intensively around our Climate Blueprint. We are discussing climate and climate-related issues, I would say, at virtually every meeting. And as you heard earlier, from Mr. Gagnon, the Governance Committee is overseeing the Board's work on this, although it goes across literally all committees and the full Board. And we'll continue to remain actively engaged in RBC's journey here to make sure that the risks and opportunities that Dave has enunciated so well are continue to be reviewed and understood and you have our commitment on that. So we'll go now to the next question in the queue, Karen, please.
Karen McCarthy
executiveThank you, Katie. We have a question online. Mr. McKay, my name is Al Best. I am a shareholder. Rumors abound that the federal government would introduce a new 3% tax on earnings exceeding $1 billion. Two questions. One, what would the amount of additional tax RBC would be -- would have paid on 2021 earnings? And had such tax been imposed in 2021? And what are your views on this proposed tax?
David McKay
executiveThank you for your question. And certainly, you've seen me speak publicly about the need to attract capital to our country. We need to attract investment, to grow our economy, to take advantage of the new supply chains and rewiring of a global trade, to fund the $2 trillion transition that we're going to need to get to Net Zero and climate. We're going to have to attract a significant amount of foreign capital, and we're going to have to encourage Canadians to invest in this journey as well invest in our economy, and that requires tax policy that encourages investment in the future. And therefore, it's really important that we invest our future and tax incentives are for productive investment and not just redistribution. So therefore, from that perspective, we'd be concerned by any new tax that is a tax and redistribution without productive use. And also singling out a single industry, the message that sends to foreign investors about the confidence in investing in our country raises concerns. So from that perspective, taxation policy and attracting investment and the balance of that, we should all be concerned about as Canadians. As far as measuring it, we'll have to get back to you and don't have a calculator here, but we should be able to do that for you pretty quickly to get that answer once it's announced.
Kathleen Taylor
executiveThank you, Dave. Karen, can we go to the next question.
Karen McCarthy
executiveYes, we have a question on the line from Richard Sambrook.
Kathleen Taylor
executiveMr. Sambrook. Please go ahead.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeMy name is Richard Sambrook. Even today, the pandemic continues to affect daily activities. Whatever as a shareholder and a customer, I must say how pleased I am on how well RBC has adapted so successfully over the pandemic and your remarkable financial results, initiatives and ideas. My question will be on cybersecurity preparedness, but I also wanted to say that as a customer, I feel I've been the beneficiary of both RBC's extraordinary customer and employee satisfaction levels. And then just finally, my background is that my grandparents all came from Ukraine. So just on behalf of myself and many others, I just wanted to say how grateful we were for RBC's quick morale and financial support of families in the Ukraine. So my question with all this sort of negative activity and over the past 2 years, and most recently, we have seen an increase in a wide variety of cybersecurity threats from governments, private organizations, whether it's ransomware or just creating chaos or political disruptions. Given these threats and my concern -- I'm just asking, given RBC's vast size, it's multiple complex business lines as well as global geographic locations, I'm asking the CEO, if he can comment on RBC's sort of preparedness in this current and threatening environment.
David McKay
executiveThank you, sir, for your question, an important question. First, let me say our thoughts was with everyone in Ukraine. We -- this is a horrific humanitarian crisis and the Ukrainian people deserve all our support. And we're proud to be able to provide support the $1 million that you referenced and our continuing ongoing support of refugees and Ukraine is so important. I'm very sorry for -- to hear the family out there. Your question is really important on cybersecurity because it does present a significant challenge and threat to our society at large, whether it's nation state-based or economic or commercially based more often than not. I can tell you that in our preparation for cybersecurity, we've more than doubled our investment in cyber defense. We have partnerships with the best firms around the world. We have an incredibly sophisticated and advanced team. We run significant cybersecurity exercises. We spare no expense in the technology and the capabilities that we deploy to defend our customer franchise and help defend our country. We do see growth in cyber threats over time. We've seen growth in cyber threats since the beginning of the invasion and the aggression and war in Ukraine. I can tell you we continue to have the utmost of confidence in the investments and the people we have to defend our customer franchise. And last, I'll say that thank you for your comments. We're very proud of the service levels we delivered to 15 million Canadian clients. Being #1 in J.D. Power for such a large organization with so many clients as an attribute to the 87,000 employees that we have and our commitment to client first and our commitment to building our business and our organization from the client in. So I really appreciate your comments and hopefully take comfort in. Cyber is something that I talk to the Chief Technology Officer about regularly. That's -- thank you.
Kathleen Taylor
executiveThank you. Karen, can you please tee up the next question in our queue.
Karen McCarthy
executiveWe have a question on the line from Richard Brooks.
Kathleen Taylor
executiveWelcome, Mr. Brooks. Please go ahead.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeI'm a beneficial shareholder of record. I am deeply disappointed that the in-person portion of this meeting was canceled. Scotiabank was able to host their meeting in person despite their CEO testing positive for COVID. The only difference between the Scotiabank meeting and the RBC AGM today seems to be the presence of the Wet'suwet'en chiefs who traveled all the way from BC to be here. Not wanting to face its critics, is not particularly surprising for or we see though. New fossil fuel financing numbers were released last week. RBC's record, despite its net 0 commitments is getting worse. We have put $260 billion into fossil fuel projects from financing to loans to your deal book to business acquisitions since the Paris Climate Agreement was ratified. You actually increased financing of fossil fuels by USD 19 billion in 2021 compared to 2020 despite the overwhelming climate science. And your Net Zero commitments, including the [ GFG ] alliance, you've doubled tar sands financing in 2021. There were no emissions reductions. You talked about putting more money into the so-called sustainable investments, Mr. McKay, which is similar to stepping on the accelerator to build out more renewables and laudable, but you're also hitting the brakes with your continued outsized financing of fossil fuels. The majority of the bank's fossil fuel-related clients like Enbridge, Canadian Natural Resources, TC Energy do not have adequate or robust transition plans. They are not on track to have their emissions by 2030 and which means that RBC will miss its existing weak Net Zero commitments. Are you prepared to walk away from fossil fuel companies within the next 18 months that do not have robust plans to stop expanding fossil fuel production and increasing emissions?
Kathleen Taylor
executiveThank you for your question. I'll perhaps go first, and then I'll turn it over to Dave. Let me just say that we were also very disappointed to have to move to a virtual-only format at the last minute. Unlike Scotia, our COVID-19 case involve close contact with a number of RBC employees and others who were critical in the staging of the in-person event. Having said that, we had the backup plan with Lumi organized just in case the pandemic has been very, very uncertain. And I'm very glad that we've been able to engage only with you but with those representing the Wet'suwet'en territories, et cetera, and others who are on the line asking great questions today and engaging fully in a dialogue with our CEO and me as representative of the Board. So thank you for being here. And again, our apologies to all who have been inconvenienced by this, we're very sorry. Dave, maybe over to you to further answer.
David McKay
executiveThank you for your question. And to Katie's point, I don't think -- if anything we've learned over the last 2.5 years during the COVID crisis and pandemic is that we can effectively run meetings and answer questions and engage in a digital world, and I feel very confident we've done that with our shareholders today. To your question, around our commitments. We do believe climate change is one of the most pressing issues. We are committed to a transition and achieving Net Zero in emissions and minus 40% targets that our government has set for us in 2030. So that is a journey. But back to my original points, this is a journey that has to be an orderly journey and an inclusive journey. And we don't have strategies and plans to transition our energy infrastructure overnight. Therefore, we have to come up with plans and setting an artificial deadline to make such a complex and difficult transition risks and orderly transition, risk, our country's energy security. And we've seen the damage that can happen economically and socially if you don't have energy security and confidence in that plan. So I come back to the need for an orderly transition in emissions as a focus. That is how Minister [ Gbo ] articulated the journey that Ken is going to take. RBC supports our government. That's what Canadians are asking for. And therefore, your question it puts us in conflict with Canadians. And our own government's choice and our Democratic society's choice about how to take this journey. Now to your point about the numbers that you're quoting around finance emissions are just incorrect. And I believe you're taking them from the RAN report. So let me just give a couple of statistics to the rest of our shareholders so they understand the difference between a market intermediary role in refinancing and moving capital in our society, which might not and likely isn't being used to expand versus financed emissions. And I can tell you that and our own financed emissions over the last -- since 2019, have decreased by 25%. So the numbers you're quoting come from a report that mixes together market activity and balance sheet repositioning and refinancing and fundraising with the actual emissions our lending financing. Having said that, back to my most important point is this is about an orderly journey to reduce emissions, and it's going to take more than 1.5 years to figure that out and making sure it's orderly and planned and that we have energy security to eat, to have a medical facility, to educate our future, to work, to protect our economy, we have to do this in a very smart way. And therefore, we just can't stop. We have to transition in a secure way. And therefore, our commitment is to support our government's plan in transitioning the emissions of our lending portfolios, we will set targets for that and to support our country's journey. So thank you for your question.
Kathleen Taylor
executiveThank you very much, Dave. We're going to go to another question on the queue. Shareholder seemed to have had some trouble connecting. So I'm going to go straight to that question next. Karen, can you help me do that?
Karen McCarthy
executiveWe have [ Tara Sitran ] on the line.
Kathleen Taylor
executiveSitran, please go ahead.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeI'm a proxy for -- so I'm a proxy, as I put in for Mr. Tara. And I would like to ask my question now.
Kathleen Taylor
executiveVery good.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeMy name is [indiscernible]. I am Lubicon Cree born into my community, which is in the heart of the tar sand. On paper, your bank has impressive founding policies on sustainability in respect for indigenous rights. But I would like to quickly share the experience of how RBC's investments have had quite the opposite effect with detrimental impact. For years, RBC has fueled the climate emergency by heavily financing fossil fuels I myself has spoken about the impact of the tar sands and the extraction it's had on our homelands at the RBC AGM in 2009. And instead of listening, RBC has caused -- continued to cause immeasurable harm. Within my lifetime, my community has went from living in a thriving ecosystem, being able to drink clean water and breathe clean air to instead being surrounded by immense environmental degradation. My community and many other indigenous communities have been forced to live in a fossil fuel impact zone where we are repeatedly experiencing oil and gas builds as well as toxic contamination from tar sands and fracking. The area of destruction that I'm talking about in the tar sands is equal to an industrial waste lands, the size of the state of Florida and Alberta. It is also the fastest-growing source of greenhouse gas emissions in Canada. And that is why Canada has repeatedly failed to meet its international climate commitments and adequately reduce its emissions. By funding tar sands projects, RBC continues to play a lead role in making this devastation possible by poisoning our land, air and water, fossil fuel extraction threatens the very survival of indigenous peoples and our planet is now at a tipping point. 2050 is not soon enough to act on climate and Net Zero technologies like carbon capture and storage remain unproven. RBC is a leading bank of leading those -- like the leading bank of fossil fuels in Canada and the fifth largest in the world globally. What RBC is -- what I want to make clear today is what RBC is financing is not just numbers in a spreadsheet or dollars in a bank account. These are our very lives in the balance and our climate is also at stake. RBC is financing cultural and environmental genocide. And this is why over the years, First Nations in the tar sands have brought legal action repeatedly against tar sands projects, which pose a risk for RBC and its investment. Dave McKay in your Globe and Mail Op Ed, you said, and I quote, we are tackling -- we are not tackling the climate -- sorry, we are not tackling climate change fast enough to succeed. So my questions are, why then is RBC actively harming our chances that it takes to adequately address the climate crisis by doubling down on fossil fuel financing and though RBC commit to ending their continued financing of tar sands projects in hopes of adequately addressing the climate crisis. Thank you.
Kathleen Taylor
executiveThank you very much for that question. Mr. McKay has spent some time today going over RBC's approach to this, and I think, has addressed all of the issues that you've raised. We'd be happy to engage again with you further offline. But in the interest of time, I'm going to ask Karen, if we could move to the next question in the queue. Karen, please, over to you.
Karen McCarthy
executiveThank you, Katie. We have a question on line from David Woo. Would Mr. McKay comment on the current share price of RBC and the factors impacting it since its 52-week high? As well, CIBC had announced a 2-for-1 stock split and curious if RBC had plans on the same and at what price target?
David McKay
executiveThank you for your question. And I think the performance of the stock, we're very proud of our total shareholder return rankings. And in the last 3 and 5 years, the stock has performed very well because of the growth and the health and the investment we've made in our client franchises. And you heard that in my speech, and I won't go through all the detail, but it's always investing in the future, always creating new value for clients, streamlining operations and managing from a client in perspective, has driven our outperformance in 2021 and our sustained outperformance over the last 5 and 10-year period. As far as your question around the stock price, the absolute value of the stock and whether we would consider doing a stock split, I think the economic theory around that, it doesn't create in itself, shareholder value. Historically, when there were less avenues and we didn't have ETFs and the stock price could be a barrier to retail investors accessing the stock of RBC or any other company, splitting made the stock more accessible and therefore, could lead to more investors coming into the stock. And that's not the case with so many investment options and fractional capabilities today through all the investment products that we have. So from that perspective, it doesn't create in our view, necessarily shareholder value. Having said that, we do review this from time to time, and it's a decision that we will take up with the Board of Directors over time, and that's all I can comment on today.
Kathleen Taylor
executiveThank you, Dave. We've had a very full exchange today on many important topics, including RBC's approach to adjust an orderly energy transition, a range of concerns, both general and specific from our very valued indigenous communities, among many others. There are still some questions remaining in the queue, which seem to be on topics that are similar to those that have already been addressed. And so at this point in the meeting, I'm going to suggest that we take those offline and we look forward to engaging with each of you individually to anything we might have not covered specifically in your question. But as I said, in general themes, Mr. McKay spent a lot of time today on the major topics, and we see the queue. There are a few more on the same topic, which we can take offline. Thank you so much. Before we close, on behalf of the Board and our shareholders, I'd like to once again express sincere appreciation to RBC employees, whose dedication and commitment to the success of our clients continues to be a true competitive advantage. More specifically, I would like to sincerely thank the many RBCers who've worked tirelessly behind the scenes to make this annual meeting possible, including those who are at home isolating today. I'd also like to thank Dave McKay and his senior executive team for their values-led leadership, their focus on environmental and social matters, and their commitment to helping our clients thrive and our communities prosper. Your ongoing leadership will ensure an enduring legacy and build long-term value for all our stakeholders. To our shareholders, thank you all for being with us today. Until we meet again, we wish you good health to you, your families and your communities. The meeting is now concluded. [Foreign Language] Thank you. Thank you for your participation. [Portions of this transcript that are marked [Interpreted] were spoken by an interpreter present on the live call.]
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