Sadhav Shipping Limited (SADHAV) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
August 12, 2026
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Operator
operatorGood evening, everyone, and welcome to the Q1 FY '27 Earnings Conference Call of Sadhav Shipping Limited. Today, we have with us Mr. Vedant K. Choudhury, Whole-Time Director and Chief Executive Officer; Mr. Shyam Sundar Banik, Executive Director, Finance and Accounts; Mr. Nilakantha Sahu, Chief Financial Officer; Ms. Madhuri Rathi, Company Secretary and Compliance Officer. We will begin with the opening remarks from the management, followed by an interactive Q&A session. Please note, this discussion may include forward-looking statements, which should be viewed in conjunction with the risks and uncertainties that the company faces. I now hand the conference over to Mr. Vedant K. Choudhury, Whole-Time Director and Chief Executive Officer, for opening remarks. Thank you, and over to you, sir.
Vedant Choudhury
executiveYes. Thank you. Good evening, everyone, and thank you for joining us at Sadhav Shipping Limited's Q1 FY '27 Earnings Conference Call. We appreciate the continued interest and engagement from all stakeholders, investors and analysts. I'm joined here with our Executive Director of Finance, Shyam Sundar Banik; CFO, Nilakantha Sahu; and our Compliance Officer, Ms. Madhuri Rathi. I will briefly take you through our Q1 performance, key operational developments during the quarter and our priorities for the year ahead, following which we can be happy to talk about any questions or answers. The Q1 performance has been a positive start for the financial year for Sadhav Shipping. We've had -- as we have discussed in our last earnings in FY '26, FY '26 was a largely foundation-building year for the company. We undertook several important initiatives, including the mobilization of Kandla site, the contract of Chennai port and other strong contracts and capabilities that we have built. These initiatives were aimed at building a stronger platform from which we can talk about scaling up our FY '27. We are now beginning to see the benefits of these initiatives. And during the quarter, we have reported a revenue of INR 31.2 crores with an EBITDA of INR 8 crores, a PAT of INR 3.4 crores and an EBITDA margin of 25.3%. The quarter reflected steady execution across all management service contracts, supported by continued and operational focus on disciplined capital deployment. At the same time, we remain focused on strengthening the quality and visibility of our revenue base, particularly through long-term contracts and recurring contracts. Our existing contracted businesses provides meaningful revenue visibility with several contracts extending across multiple years. A significant development during the quarter was the award of a 7-year pilot launch services from Mumbai port valued at approximately INR 18 crores. This is a strategic importance to us because it adds another long-term recurring services contract to our portfolio and strengthens our presence in Mumbai port as well. We've also gained presence in JNPT through long-term contract deployment of 2 FRP boats. This basically strengthens our pilot boat capability to 4. Back to that, what we have done is we have placed orders for 4 high-speed FRP pilot and security boats with an option of 2 additional boats. And this is a deliberate fleet expansion effort actually. These vessels will strengthen our capabilities in piloting and security services that we provide, and it will add our capacities for the future as well. We have been diligent to reduce our interest cost with the capital infusion through the last preferential round, and our approach to fleet expansion remains disciplined. We intend to deploy capital against visible businesses opportunities and ensure that new assets contribute meaningfully to the revenue generation and returns. We have been able to capitalize on the Iran -- Iran-U.S. war with deployment of our vessel in high-risk areas and gaining on the charter rates as well. So, the way forward, as we move through '27, our focus remains on expanding our portfolio in long-term services and annuity contracts, particularly in offshore logistics, port services and specialized marine contracts. We will continue to increase our contribution from offshore businesses, improve our vessel utilization and strengthen operational visibility. At the same time, we will selectively invest in fleet and fleet expansion and capabilities which where we have clear business visibility while evaluating strategic opportunities that can broaden our service offerings. We will also be investing in technology-driven solutions to solutions to issues faced by the ports today. Our objectives are to capitalize on the Maritime Amritkaal Vision and the various initiatives of the Government of India and the state governments. Overall, our objective is to build a more predictable, scalable and profitable maritime services platform while maintaining a disciplined capital allocation. To continue, our Q1 F1 has been a constructive year to start with. The company remains focused and disciplined on execution, strengthening its recurring revenue base and building capabilities for sustainable growth. With increasing investments in India's maritime infrastructure and growing demand for specialized marine services, we believe that Sadhav Shipping is well positioned to capture the opportunities ahead and create long-term value for our stakeholders. With that, I would like to thank you once again for joining us. And now I hand over the call for the Q&A session.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] First question from the line Amarnath Reddy from Andhra Pradesh Grameena Bank.
Amarnath Reddy
analystAm I audible?
Operator
operatorAmarnath sir, you need to speak a little bit louder.
Amarnath Reddy
analystSir, am I audible?
Vedant Choudhury
executiveYes Amarnathji.
Amarnath Reddy
analystSir, in the presentation, I have gone through the presentation of Sadhav. So, it was assured by the management that in the last quarter, order book also will be disclosed. I don't know what is the reason it is not disclosed. And second thing, revenue projection, you have mentioned in the last conference call more than 20% and whereas profitability will be more faster than revenue because of the optimal utilization of the resources. So when I see the revenue for this quarter, it is INR 31 crores compared to last quarter, INR 34 crores. So it is flat revenue. And during the monsoon season, we may expect Sadhav Anusha to stop the operation. So revenue may further go down. So what is the channel where we can increase the revenue to maintain that 20% guidance, sir?
Vedant Choudhury
executiveOkay. Thank you, Amarnath, for the question. So unfortunately, we don't have a quarter-to-quarter comparison, Q1 to Q1 comparison. However, what we have done is a Q1 -- this Q1 to last Q4 comparison. So it generally happens is that in one of our port services contract where we have to do the coastal logistics, the cargo -- the cargo is actually transported in a much more hurried fashion before the monsoon sets in. So that is why you will see a Q4, which is a higher number at any time. Normally, you see our H2 on a higher -- H2 is always more than H1. But then if you compare our Q1 this time versus our H2 of last year, so I believe H2 of last year was about INR 34 crores or INR 35 crores, whereas our Q1 itself is INR 31.2 crores -- Q1 is INR 31 crores. So, and that is where I would like to again come back to you. Yes, during the monsoon season, we face a difficulty because some of our assets are not deployed because of the season. However, we have managed to tide over this and take contracts outside the weather window and also perform that as well. So the next question is, obviously, when you said it rightly that Anusha will not be performing during the monsoon season, and that is where we will see a loss of revenue. At the same time, we see the deployment of Saroja Blessing in foreign waters where we are actually performing there and trying to make up for the lost revenue.
Amarnath Reddy
analystSo you will maintain the guidance of 20% revenue and more than 20% in profitability for the financial year, sir?
Vedant Choudhury
executiveCorrect. So as far as the financial year targets are concerned, yes, we'll maintain the same guidance. As far as the Q2 targets are concerned, we may not be -- like it really depends on how the entire season goes about. So it may or may not be as well as Q1, actually, I would say.
Amarnath Reddy
analystOkay. Sir, order book, related question.
Vedant Choudhury
executiveSo I'm sorry if the order book has not been placed. I will ensure that we will have it placed on our website by -- in the next couple of weeks. We are also trying to revamp our website. I think that is the reason why it has gone through -- fallen through the cracks. But as of today, we have an order book of about INR 350 crores. That's what I can say.
Amarnath Reddy
analystOkay, sir. Sir, one last question, then I'll wait in the queue. Regarding the Odisha project, is there any update? And I have seen in some articles that in Maharashtra also United Petro Sadhav it moved a bit as far as official meeting with the government is concerned. So any light on Odisha and Maharashtra project update on United Petro Sadhav?
Vedant Choudhury
executiveOkay. So on the United Petro Sadhav, on the Odisha front, we have been still trying with the government of Odisha. We have had several rounds of site visits, and we are expecting another round of site visits in the next couple of weeks. We are in touch with the departments -- the concerned departments and the competent authority. However, it is a time-taking process for the land allocation over there. And I must thank our partners, UPG Group to still keep their continued interest in the project because it is very easy to lose interest in a project which is taking much time.
Amarnath Reddy
analystCorrect.
Vedant Choudhury
executiveAt the same time, because it is taking a lot of time, our partners had also explored a location in Maharashtra to have a similar project. And we are working with the government of Maharashtra and how to make it possible actually.
Amarnath Reddy
analystSo which one may take off first, sir, Odisha or Maharashtra?
Vedant Choudhury
executiveUntil it can happen, I cannot commit right now, right?
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] We have our next question from the line of Mandira from Invesco.
Unknown Analyst
analystSo a couple of questions. If you could help me with what is the revenue contribution expected from Q1 contract win in FY '27?
Vedant Choudhury
executiveOkay. So we have won more than a couple of contracts in Q1 FY '27, Mandira. So we expect to have approximately INR 3 crores to INR 4 crores in revenue contribution on a per year basis.
Unknown Analyst
analystGot it, sir. And secondly, to what extent can be the port services business scale without a corresponding increase in capital expenditure?
Vedant Choudhury
executiveSo that's -- so there are -- in port services, Mandira, I'll just briefly explain you. We have a bouquet of services actually. So it can vary from piloted services where we use the ports. We can have manpower services. And we -- so we can scale up in the manpower services without having any capital expenditure or any technical services to the port that we can give without having any capital expenditure. But by far, the one which hits the top line is the one which we will lead the capital expenditure.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] Next question is from the line of from [ Aniket Redkar ], an individual investor.
Aniket Redkar
attendeeI have few questions. So sir, recently, the contract which we got, so can you throw some light on -- related to this Mumbai port authority contract? Can you give more details on it?
Vedant Choudhury
executiveOkay. Aniket, I will just request you to be a little louder. I could hear you though, but I think my members could not hear you. But any which way, so you asked that you want some light on the Mumbai port contract which we were awarded.
Aniket Redkar
attendeeYes, yes.
Vedant Choudhury
executiveSo we were awarded a pilot port contract from Mumbai port, where we have to provide 2 pilot boats to Mumbai port for a 7-year period. This is a total value of about INR 18 crores.
Aniket Redkar
attendeeOkay. Okay. So sir, is this INR 18 crores or INR 218 crores?
Vedant Choudhury
executiveI'm sorry, it's INR 18 crores.
Aniket Redkar
attendeeOkay. Okay. And sir, when will this -- the full financial impact of this contract started reflecting in our company's financials?
Vedant Choudhury
executiveSo we have already like we said earlier, we've already placed the orders for the boat for the JNPA and the Mumbai port with Wadia Boat Builders in Gujarat. We expect those boats to be delivered within the next 5 to 6 months after all the trials and testing. And I think by January or February, we will start the operation. So it's only in FY '28, you will see the full financial year effect on that actually.
Aniket Redkar
attendeeOkay. Okay. And sir, does the execution of this contract require any incremental CapEx?
Vedant Choudhury
executiveIncremental CapEx negative. All the CapEx is built into our initial project cost actually.
Aniket Redkar
attendeeOkay. Okay. And sir, what is the current pipeline of port service opportunity Sadhav is pursuing currently?
Vedant Choudhury
executiveSo this is kind of a -- I would say, it's a competitor-sensitive information. I'm not really in a position to give you right now. But most of it is within the purview of what we are currently doing. And some of it is actually trying to aim for higher quality work.
Aniket Redkar
attendeeOkay. Okay. And sir, one last question. Could you give us a breakup of Q1 FY '27 in terms of across our offshore logistics and port services, oil spill response and other services we provide. So if I get a breakup, that would be helpful.
Vedant Choudhury
executiveAt this position, I will not be able to give you a breakup. But in a rough manner, I can -- you're asking for the FY '27, right? -- projected for FY '27.
Aniket Redkar
attendeeYes, current quarter-on-quarter.
Vedant Choudhury
executiveCurrent quarter.
Aniket Redkar
attendeeYes, sir.
Vedant Choudhury
executiveSo we've done approximately INR 16.3 crores in offshore logistics.
Aniket Redkar
attendeeOkay.
Vedant Choudhury
executiveSorry, we have done INR 25 crores -- INR 25.4 crores in offshore logistics, INR 3.13 crores in oil spill response and INR 2.68 crores in port services. Total INR 31.21 crores.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] We have our next question from the line of Rohit Mehra from SK Securities.
Rohit Mehra
analystPardon me if I'm asking the repetitive question as I joined late. So my first question is with the 4 new FRP pilot and security boats being added, I just want to understand what kind of revenue contribution can we expect once these vessels are operational?
Vedant Choudhury
executiveSo we can expect close to about INR 4 crores per year from these 4 boats itself.
Rohit Mehra
analystOkay. Got it. Got it. Okay. And the second question was that revenue was relatively softer in Q1, but profitability remains strong. So how should we think about the revenue trajectory in coming quarters? If you could throw some light there?
Vedant Choudhury
executiveYes. So Rohit, as I was actually trying to explain it to Amarnath earlier, we have not had the opportunity to present our Q1 to Q1 figures. This is a comparison of Q1 to last Q4 figures. What happens in Q4 is typically we tend to ramp up our -- not ramp up, but there's a lot of activities in the port services, especially in the port services and the offshore logistics that goes on. So that is why the Q4 figures or rather the H2 figures are normally higher than the H1 figures. So now to give you a comparison between Q1 and the H1 of last year. So H1 of last year was about INR 34 crores, INR 35 crores. And Q1 of this year is about INR 31 crores. So that is the comparison I would like to add on to be here actually.
Rohit Mehra
analystGot it. Got it. Got it. And in continuation to this, could you please give me a mix between our offshore logistics, coastal logistics and port services and oil spill response?
Vedant Choudhury
executiveYes. So we did INR 25 crores in the offshore logistics in the Q1, INR 3.13 crores in oil spill response and INR 2.68 in the port services.
Rohit Mehra
analystGot it. Got it. And my last question is, could you elaborate on proposed JV with the Sadhav Offshore Engineering and Rural Enhancers projects, the areas where maritime business JV is expected and focus on, right?
Vedant Choudhury
executiveYes, yes. So basically, this one is -- the JV is actually to expand or rather capitalize on the Maritime Amritkaal Vision 2047 that is there by the Government of India and especially to expand on the maritime and shipbuilding and ship repair vision that the -- or rather policy of the Maharashtra government. So we are working together on this to actually capitalize on the shipyard push that has been given by the government of India and through the Maharashtra government also. Also, we are also working with Rural Enhancers and Sadhav Offshore to bring in more technology-driven solutions. Like I've always maintained that one of the key things that we're looking at is electric boats. Electric ports is something that the ports have already got in, but electric boats is something that we want to get in. And we are trying to get those solutions into the India actually.
Rohit Mehra
analystGot it. Got it. So any time lines that we are expecting for this and something concrete to come on floor?
Vedant Choudhury
executiveI think it should happen within the next quarter.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] We have a next question from the line of Amarnath Reddy from Andhra Pradesh Grameena Bank.
Amarnath Reddy
analystSo my continuing question, sir, Sadhav Shipping is -- what I understand from previous conference calls is that you are trying to move to main board migration that is in the stock market from SME platform. So when are you planning to do that, sir? Because already more than 2 years [Foreign Language], actually, within 2 years, actually, we can migrate to main board. So when are you planning to do that? That is first question. And next question is with the Sadhav offshoring JV, in which front you are expecting more revenues? When I say which front, out of the offshore logistics, oil spill response and port services in which front you are expecting in revenue contribution? These are my 2 questions.
Vedant Choudhury
executiveOkay. So I will answer the -- like always, I'll answer your last question first. For the JV between Sadhav Offshore, ourselves and REL, we expect to actually develop new fronts, not the current -- so I don't need a JV to do work in the current fronts that we are already working. So, but then we expect to do -- develop new fronts and open new avenues or revenue growth actually. So this is something that is very exciting in Sadhav as a whole and Sadhav Shipping as well. On the migration to main board, Amarnathji, it's obviously our aspiration as well so that we can unlock value to the stakeholders as well. And I think there are some criterias that we need to meet of the SEBI guidelines, and we should be there in the main board. I think by early next year or mid next year, we should be there in the main board.
Amarnath Reddy
analystOkay, sir. Just a continuation question for Sadhav Offshore. So you told the earlier participant that by next quarter, you will be explaining the stakeholders on the JV part? Or what does that mean, sir? I could not get that answer actually.
Vedant Choudhury
executiveSo what Rohit asked is actually for when is the JV going to be forming -- and when do we see any results coming out of the JV? So I said by next quarter, the JV should be falling out and results will take some time after that.
Amarnath Reddy
analystOkay. Okay, sir. So Sadhav Offshore has the capabilities of shipbuilding also, sir, if I'm not wrong.
Vedant Choudhury
executiveThat's correct.
Amarnath Reddy
analystThen it should be a very good revenue stream for Sadhav if it takes a shape.
Vedant Choudhury
executiveThat's what we are expecting as well.
Amarnath Reddy
analystOkay, sir. I'll touch upon that in next quarter because JV is not yet taken a shape.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] Next question is from the line of Shravan Modi from Syndicate Family Office.
Unknown Analyst
analystMy question to you is regarding the consolidated results currently have like shown largely reflect the stand-alone business with the associates still at an early stage. How should we think about the potential contribution from the associate business as they scale out?
Vedant Choudhury
executiveSo Shravan, we basically expect to have the -- so the associate business is the UPG-Sadhav joint venture. And like you said, it's a very early stage where we have not yet received the land allocation from the government of Odisha. Once that is done, there's a lot of traction that can be happening on the associate company over there. So for now, until the land allocation and the basic things are not in place, we are not able to gauge anything.
Unknown Analyst
analystRight, sir. So as a portfolio of long-term contract expands, do you -- how do you see the business mix evolving between predictable recurring revenues and more project or spot-based revenues in the future?
Vedant Choudhury
executiveThat's a good question. So basically, we aim to have more recurring annuity type of business where we have 3-year, 5-year or 7-year contract. Some places, we even have a 10-year contract with one of the ports. And that is basically, we always aim to have that. But then we don't want to lose out on the spot charters where we can earn more in a short period of time as well. So what happens is in a gist, I will tell you is that 2 of our vessels, one is Saroja Blessing and one was Adwita, which are open for spot charters. Whereas Adwita is something that we are engaging or rather we are trying to contract on a long-term basis for the offshore season. So offshore season is basically 8 months of non-monsoon period. So we are talking to some big names for actually contracting her for the full season. And whereas Saroja Blessing is on the spot side, where we are actually gaining quite a lot. And indeed, it's a blessing to have her because she is actually saving us from the loss of revenue from Anusha.
Unknown Analyst
analystRight, sir. Sir, would you expect the next phase of growth to be primarily led by volume-based more contracts or like margin based through better utilization of our existing system?
Vedant Choudhury
executiveIt will be a mix of both actually. So we are looking at -- so we have put in tenders with ONGC and a lot of port services. So port services, yes, will give us a good margin, I would say. And whereas the other offshore logistics, the margin levels really do fall down. But yes, so we'll have more -- it's a mix of both, actually, I would say.
Unknown Analyst
analystRight, sir. Sir, my last and final question to you. What will be the working capital requirements as the company moves towards a larger portfolio of long-term port contracts?
Vedant Choudhury
executiveI'll give that to my CFO, Nilakantha.
Nilakantha Sahu
executivePlease come again with question.
Unknown Analyst
analystWhat will be the working capital requirements as the company moves towards a larger portfolio of long-term contracts?
Nilakantha Sahu
executiveLike at present, we are having about INR 10 crores. Accordingly, the size of the turnover will require accordingly, 20% to 25%.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] Next question is from the line of Varun, an individual investor.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeMy first question is what would be the key triggers that could lead to a meaningful step-up in earnings like over the next 12 to 18 months?
Vedant Choudhury
executiveSo basically, we are looking at a continued charter revenue from Saroja Blessing. That is one of the key points. We are also looking at signing important contracts of Adwita, where we have one large defense client, which is already signed. And we have one large offshore EPC company, which we are planning to sign with.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeOkay. And another question is on the operating leverage. Like how much operating leverage is available in the existing business as the fleet utilization improves?
Vedant Choudhury
executiveSo just for giving an example, our fleet utilization across the port services about 95%. And across the offshore logistics side is about 85% -- 80% to 85%. And the leverage that we have is we can obviously -- the balance in the port services rather than the offshore logistics, where we see that because of the Iran-U.S. war, we are actually seeing a higher charter revenue rather per day charter rate.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeOkay. Noted, sir. And one last question. What would be the biggest bottleneck to scaling the business faster from here, like considering availability of vessels, manpower, working capital and winning of contracts?
Vedant Choudhury
executiveSo obviously, one of the bottlenecks is always the finance. But apart from the nonfinancial bottlenecks, what I see is, number one, the time taken for tenders to materialize. Number two, the availability of quality assets at the price that we are looking at. Because unless it makes business sense, we will not go into those assets at all. At present, only because offshore vessels are priced -- secondhand offshore vessels are priced very high, we are -- we have decided not to go ahead until we get a good value out of it actually.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] We have our next question from the line of Mahesh Kumar from MU Investment.
Unknown Analyst
analystSir, you have highlighted that INR 218 crores long-term Mumbai Port Authority contract and a focus on increasing annuity style contracts, right? So what is the long-term target for the share of recurring or contracted revenue? And how do you use this changing -- how do we see this changing overall revenue visibility and margin profile over the next 3 to 5 years?
Vedant Choudhury
executiveMaheshji, I'll just correct you. It is actually not INR 218 crores. It is INR 18 crores actually. Yes. So let me just correct you over there. And your second question was, how does it affect my margins, is it?
Unknown Analyst
analystNo. So how do you -- what is the long-term target for the share of recurring revenue you are targeting? And how do you see the changing -- like how do you see changing overall revenue visibility and margin profile over the next 3, 5 years?
Vedant Choudhury
executiveOkay. So I can only comment on the coming year first, and then let's take it from there. So in the coming year in FY '27, there are 2 contracts actually. One is the Mumbai port contract and the other one is the JNPT contract, which will add up about INR 3 crores to about INR 4 crores in a per year revenue thing. So only thing is that the contracts will not start this financial year or rather will not start in the full financial year of this year. The full year, you will see in FY '28 only. So that is one thing. So now again, coming to the estimates, we expect to have a 20% increase on our revenue side for FY '27.
Unknown Analyst
analystOkay. Okay, sir. And on the second question, like with opportunity across port services, offshore logistics, green tugs and specialized marine services, so where do you see the highest ROCE opportunity? And what would be the key triggers for increasing fleet CapEx and versus the pursuing an asset-light growth strategy?
Vedant Choudhury
executiveSo obviously, we are not in the typical game of having an asset-light growth swing. At the same time, we are also looking at various partners where we can join our capabilities and take things forward. So that is one of the avenues where I'm seeing is joining hands with other -- with the -- to make use of the Maritime Amritkaal Vision, where we have port services and the shipbuilding in shipyard infra where we can really push that as well. So I see a best ROCE in the port services, like just to give you a short answer, where the -- even though the capital cost is low, the return or rather the EBITDA is pretty high, I would say.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] We have our next question from the line of Harsh, an individual investor.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeCould you hear me?
Vedant Choudhury
executiveHarsh, can you be a little louder, please?
Unknown Attendee
attendeeYes. Could you hear me now?
Vedant Choudhury
executiveYes, much better.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeSir, I'd like to ask one question. In the case of little naturalization of the event of Iran U.S.A., the charter rates that we are expecting, where would it actually -- how low would it go? Or how do we expect the trend in charter rates?
Vedant Choudhury
executiveSo Harshji, with the Iran U.S. war, which is going on, what we see is that apart from owners who are taking the risk of crossing the Hormuz, there are very few tonnages, which is coming from there to this side or this side to that side as well. So and then what we see is that there are a lot of emergency works, including salvage and rescue, which we are actively participating. And that is where we are seeing an increase in charter rates actually.
Unknown Attendee
attendeeYes, I can understand that. And what do you think about the trend in charter rates though in general?
Vedant Choudhury
executiveIn general, I would say for India market, they are -- I would say they are softening. But with caution, we will also come up in some time.
Operator
operatorLadies and gentlemen, that would be the last question of the day. Thank you, everyone, for joining this call. On behalf of Sadhav Shipping Limited, that concludes the conference. Thank you for joining us, and you may now disconnect your lines.
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