S&T Bancorp, Inc. (STBA) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

July 23, 2026

NASDAQ US Financials Banks earnings 38 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Thank you. Welcome to the S&T Bancorp second quarter 2026 earnings conference call. After the management's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. Now, I would like to turn the call over to Chief Financial Officer Mark Kovacic.

Unknown Speaker

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#2

Please go ahead. Great. Thank you. And good afternoon, everyone. And thank you for participating in today's earnings call. Before beginning the presentation, I want to take time to refer you to our statement about forward-looking statements and risk factors. The statement provides cautionary language required by the Securities and Exchange Commission for forward-looking statements that may be included in this presentation. A copy of the second quarter 2026 earnings release as well as this earnings supplement slide deck can be obtained by clicking on the materials button in the lower right section of your screen. Also open up a panel on the right where you can download these items. You can also obtain a copy of these materials by visiting our investor relations website at stbankcorp.com. With me today are Chris McCommish, S&T's CEO, and Dave Antolik, S&T's President,.

Christopher McComish

executive
#3

I'd now like to turn the call over to Chris. Chris? Chris Baird, CFO Alphabet and Google, Mark, thank you. And good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. We appreciate the analysts and investors being with us. And as always, we look forward to your questions. Before I get into the quarter, I did want to take a minute to recognize the broader momentum we are seeing across S&T. Our financial performance is one important measure of that momentum, but we also continue to see it reflected in the strength of our customer relationships and the trust customers place in our company. That was reinforced this quarter when S&T was named to the Forbes America's Best in-State Banks 2026 list. This is a recognition based upon direct customer feedback across areas such as trust, customer service, financial advice, digital experiences, and overall satisfaction. Also during the quarter we celebrated our 124th year, which means we begin celebrating S&T's 125th year legacy this quarter. This recognition is a timely reminder that our long-term success has been built on those same fundamentals. Serving customers well. investing in our communities and delivering value for our shareholders over time. These commitments have helped us navigate change, strengthen our culture, and position the bank to thrive for the next 125 years and beyond. Now, turning to our financial results, I'll start on slide three. Turning to the quarter, we delivered a very strong performance. Net income was $36.6 million, or $1.2 per diluted share, up 8.5% from the first quarter of 26 and 22.9% from the second quarter of last year. Return metrics were also solid. We reported ROA of 149, ROE of 10.375, and a ROTCE of over 14. These results reflected the benefit of higher earnings, continued discipline across the company, and the impact of our share repurchase. activity. Our operating performance was also strong. Net interest margin expanded seven basis points from the linked quarter to 399, supported by both higher loan yields and a better funding mix. Net interest income increased to $90.4 million compared to $88.4 million in the first quarter and $86.6 million a year ago. Importantly, we're seeing positive year-to-date operating leverage. Through the first six months of the year, revenue growth has outpaced Fence growth meaningfully and our efficiency ratio improved to 55.38% compared to 57% for the first six months of 2025. As is noted, asset quality showed improvement during the quarter with low net charge offs of just a million dollars and non-performing assets decreased by almost $10 to 0.5% of total loans in Oreo. On page four, loan growth was $99 million or 5% annualized. On the deposit side, customer deposits were stable in the second quarter after very strong growth in the first quarter. Year to date deposits are up approximately 8% annualized. At the same time, we reduced broker deposits $100 million during the quarter and $180 million year-to-date, which again improved the quality of our funding mix. DDA levels remain at an industry-leading 28% of total deposits, highlighting the value of our late relationship based model and the quality of our core deposit base. We continue to actively manage capital also. As you know, over the past three quarters, we repurchased almost 3.2 million shares, representing 8% of outstanding shares for a total of $133 million. We also got board approval. yesterday for reauthorization of another $100 million opportunity. Our strong capital position gives us the flexibility to continue to support organic growth, remain disciplined around capital returns and evaluating strategic opportunities as they arise. In summary, this was a very good quarter for our bank. We delivered meaningful EPS growth, solid returns, favorable asset quality, positive to date operating leverage and continued capital management through share repurchases. I'm going to stop right there, turn it over to Dave. He can talk about asset growth, pipelines, and asset quality. Great. Thank you, Chris. And as Chris mentioned in referring to page four, total loans increased by $99 million during Q2.

Dave Antolik

executive
#4

to representing approximately 5% annualized growth, driving balances over $8 billion. We're encouraged by both the composition and the quality of this growth. As discussed on previous calls, we are strategically focused on building our C&I capabilities and our investment in talent is beginning to pay off. During the quarter, we increased our C&I banker count. They've increased our total commercial banking team by approximately 20% year to date, with a goal of reaching 30% by year end. These hires strengthen our ability to deepen customer relationships, expand our presence in attractive markets, and support long term loan and deposit growth. The results can be seen in our C&I portfolio. During the quarter, C&I balances increased by $79 million. We saw encouraging signs from our C&I customer base with revolving line utilization increasing from 41 to 44% quarter over quarter. And at the same time, total C&I revolving commitment grew at 6% annualized, demonstrating continued demand from our customers along with increased banker productivity. Permanent commercial real estate balances declined by $46 million, primarily driven by loans that were paid off by non-bank lenders. While this created a headwind to the portfolio growth, it also reflects the continued quality of our borrower base and the attractiveness of these projects to the permanent market. to support well-capitalized developers within our footprint. As a result, commercial construction balances increased by $71 million during the quarter. Additionally, total construction commitments increased by $65 million, and the total number of commitments increased by nearly 19% in Q2, providing further evidence of solid customer activity. Looking ahead, our CRE and C&I pipeline activities remain solid and support our expectation for annualized mid-single-digit loan growth for the balance of 2026. Turning to asset quality on page 5, our portfolio continues to perform in line with our expectations, demonstrating our disciplined underwriting approach and ongoing portfolio management efforts. Non-performing assets declined by $9.7 million during the quarter to $40.2 million or 0.5% of total loans plus Oreo. Criticized and classified assets remained stable during the quarter while losses were very low. total just $1 million during Q2, resulting in a modest provision expense of $1.1 million. Given the continued stability of the loan portfolio, the allowance for credit losses remained essentially unchanged at 1.16% of total loans compared to 1.17 at the end of Q1. and I'll turn the program over to Mark. Hey, thanks Dave. Second quarter net interest income increased by $2 million due to an additional day, combined with improvements on both the yield on earning assets, which dropped four basis points with better commercial performance, and the cost of funding, which was down four basis points due to lower interest bearing deposit rates, and also a better funding mix. We expect relative net interest margin stability around the current high 390s level to continue for the next several quarters, and believe we are well positioned should interest rate conditions change. A tailwind from our maturing receipts fixed swaps along with some remaining security fixed rate loan and CD repricing all contribute to stability in the face of heightened loan and deposit pricing competition. Net interest income growth will be supported by improved loan growth. Average loan balances were actually down in the second quarter due to the timing of the growth in the first half, but we expect average balance loan balance growth going forward. Customer deposit growth momentum remains good even in the face of this increased competition, which should contribute to maintaining spreads and at interest margin rates. Next, on non-interest income, we saw an increase of $1.3 million in the second quarter. Increases were broad-based with improvements in really every category. Debit and credit card activity was higher after a seasonally slower first quarter. Investment services is up with better customer activity and market improvements. The gain on sale is the net of a $1.9 million gain on the conversion of Visa Class B2 shares. We offset that for the most part with a $1.7 million loss on a small $34 million bond portfolio repositioning. The bond repositioning has an earn back of about 1.4 years. per quarter to identify interest income for the next several quarters. The other category variance is due to one-time items. We had some partnership income and an unrealized gain on some equities that we own. Our expectations for fees in the second half of 2026 is approximately $14 million per quarter. On to non-expenses, which increased by $2 million in Q2, the largest variance was in salaries and benefits. And within that, salaries were up due to merit increases going into effect in April. And we also had some higher medical costs as deductibles were met during the first part of the year. Occupancy improvement was impacted by higher seasonal snow removal and utility costs in the first quarter. Marketing reflects just the timing of various promotional efforts. Other variances include tax-related contributions, which are offset by a favorable variance in other taxes. We had some higher T&E and employee recognition. along with some recruiting fees. We expect to manage our 2026 non-interest expense year over year to a maximum around 3% increase, which implies a quarterly run rate of around 58 million. For capital, the TCE ratio decreased by 28 basis points this quarter, primarily due to the share repurchases we completed in the second quarter. Again, for the quarter, we repurchased about 1.1 million shares, average price of $44.24, with a total of $47.6 million. Regulatory ratios continue to be very strong with significant excess capital. We are evaluating next steps with respect to our capital management strategy and further buybacks. We're comfortable that even considering additional repurchases that were recently authorized by the Board, we have more than sufficient capital currently and the generation capabilities that will position us well. for the environment and enable us to take advantage of organic or inorganic growth opportunities should they arise. At this time, I'd like to turn the call back over to the operator to provide instructions for asking questions.

Operator

operator
#5

The floor is now open for questions. If you have a question, please press star 1 on your device. We ask that while asking your question, please pick up your phone and turn off speakerphone for enhanced audio quality. Please remember to unmute your device. Please hold while we poll for questions. Your first question comes from the line of Daniel Tomeo with Raymond James. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Thank you. Good afternoon, everybody.

Unknown Speaker

unknown
#6

How's it going? I apologize if you gave this already. But the loan growth guy, did we get a, was it mid single digit again?.

Dave Antolik

executive
#7

looking for the rest of the year. Exactly, Dan, mid single digits.

Unknown Speaker

unknown
#8

Okay, all right, great. And in terms of the deposits, I know you called out it's been strong year to date. still thinking that kind of full year will fund the loan growth? Or are you thinking through the deposit? Yes. Yes.

Dave Antolik

executive
#9

Yes, we fully anticipate, yes, based on pipelines activity we've seen year to date, we'll be able to sell funds through DepositCross.

Unknown Speaker

unknown
#10

Okay, great. And then I appreciate the commentary on the buybacks, but maybe just if you could just put a little more clarity around kind of how you're thinking about that other than, you opportunistic like you know you got the 100 million um re-up there and then you know is that so assuming kind of a stable stock price or stable growth in the stock price, you think that's something that you expect to use on a somewhat regular basis over the next several quarters? You know, Obviously, it's dependent in part on the loan growth that comes through. I get that. But just your thoughts on your intention to use that over the next year, I guess, is the authorization.

Unknown Speaker

unknown
#11

Yes, I mean, it does last for a while. I mean, with the stock price moving higher, I mean, the calculus does change. So we are taking a closer look at that. I think it is something that we'll have opportunity to use over the next year. But again, the dynamics have changed.

Unknown Speaker

unknown
#12

as the prices move higher. So based on like today's price, I mean, do you think that's something you're still interested in utilizing?.

Unknown Speaker

unknown
#13

Probably not to the same degree as we've been. We've been pretty active. last three quarters. So we would consider or look more closely at potentially stepping that back somewhat.

Unknown Speaker

unknown
#14

at current levels. Okay. And if that happens and maybe the stock goes higher and it becomes less attractive, what do you think you would do with the capital at that point, absent kind of looking for other M&A opportunities? Yes.

Unknown Speaker

unknown
#15

Yes, I think we're all we haven't stopped looking for M&A opportunities and other things to do both organically. So we would continue on that as you know, with the 5x that we've made, you know, the improvements to returns, you know, are meaningful. But again, the kind of incremental improvement that we get from the buybacks begins to get a little bit more constrained. So I think that's one of the things as we go into our planning process for the year, that's something that we'll have to look a lot closer at over the next year.

Unknown Speaker

unknown
#16

quarter or so. All right, understood. Well, thanks for the call, guys. Appreciate it. Nice quarter. Okay, thank you.

Operator

operator
#17

Your next call comes from the line of David Bishop with Hovde Group. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

David Bishop

analyst
#18

Yes, good afternoon. Hey, Chris, you mentioned the ability to attract new commercial bankers, and you called out the C&I growth. Just maybe some color on the increase there, how much represented maybe new client penetration versus existing customers getting more aggressive? and utilizing lives and getting more optimistic on lending. Thanks. Yes.

Dave Antolik

executive
#19

Hey, Dave. Dave Antolik. So the majority of the growth was related to utilization rates increasing. But as I mentioned, we've seen the total revolving commitment growth as well, which would represent additional credit extended to existing clients as well as new customers. So it's a good mix. But the growth in CNI was outsized and a little more than what we'd expected from the quarter because of the increased utilization rates. Which was interesting because utilization had dropped a little bit in Q1. came back some in 2Q, pushed a little bit higher. So the math becomes keep the utilization rate, because it's now at a level where it was prior to Q1, keep that consistent, grow the overall customer base, which is the purpose behind hiring these new CNI bankers.

David Bishop

analyst
#20

Got it. Then I'm not sure if I missed it during the preamble, but positioning for potential rate hikes here in terms of the margin. Just curious thoughts on the puts and takes there as we head into the second half of the year. Thanks.

Unknown Speaker

unknown
#21

Yes, I think with respect to our rate sensitivity, we feel like within 20, 30 years, we're going 2550 basis for points early, even a little bit more either way that we're fairly neutrally positioned right now. You know, we still have some tailwinds that I mentioned with the swaps and some of the back book repricing that just support us over the next several quarters. So It's hard to know what the Fed's going to do, but we think that we can hold on the margin for the next several quarters at least, in spite of any rate changes that might happen.

Operator

operator
#22

Great. Thank you. Your next call comes from the line of Kelly Mata with KBW. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Unknown Speaker

unknown
#23

Hi, good afternoon. Maybe sticking on the point of the margin, it was really nice to see deposit costs come down in the quarter, including the rate on CDs. I'm wondering, as you look out from here, is that tailwind kind of leveling off with the of the upcoming maturities coming up and can you provide any spot color on deposit costs or what the incremental cost of new funding is coming in at? Thank you.

Unknown Speaker

unknown
#24

Yes, so I mean you're right, the seat we still got some repricing benefit on the CD book that has, you know, maybe a couple more months to run. So we might see a little bit more benefit in Q3, but after that we're pretty much leveled off and replace it replacing at the same cost because that book is fairly short. We're still highly concentrated. in that six-month timeframe. So that's why we'll start to see some uptick potentially after Q3 in deposit costs as there's still some repricing and some exception pricing being made. So to the extent we can hold on to the good mix that we have,.

Unknown Speaker

unknown
#25

We shouldn't see it move too much going forward. Got it. That's helpful. Maybe one last question from me, just refreshing Durbin. It looks like you're 9.94 billion in assets, very flat quarter over quarter. It seems like given your kind of mid single digit growth outlook on loans, you will potentially run through that. Is that still a good assumption or do you have some levers here that if you don't get a deal, you can plan to navigate on to a run on an organic basis? Thank you.

Unknown Speaker

unknown
#26

I mean, given given the trajectory that you know they've described on loan side, you know, if we're successful with that, you know, we would anticipate across here in the second half. So as long as that comes through, we will go. In the first half of the year, we saw a decrease in loan balances in the first quarter. That sat in cash for the most part at the end of the first quarter. So in the second quarter, even though we had loan growth, we got a right side of the cash balance. So it looked like we were flat. It's really back to the balance sheet actually being probably down under the hood in the first quarter, and it's just kind of bounced back here in the second quarter. But our trajectory should take us over $10 billion in the second half.

Christopher McComish

executive
#27

Got it. Thank you so much. Your next... Kelly is Chris. As we've talked about before, we're talking about a little over $6 million doesn't impact us for, assuming we went over at 1231, it wouldn't impact, half of that would hit in 27, the other full amount of that would hit in 28, and our job is to lead the company through that, and we feel very confident that we can.

Operator

operator
#28

Your next call comes from the line of Daniel Cardenas with Breen Capital. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Daniel Cardenas

analyst
#29

So just kind of following up on Kelly's question with the crossing of the $10 billion threshold and the $6 million gap that would be created there. How long do you think it would take your new hires to kind of fill that gap? Do you think that can kind of happen in 28 or is that going to take a little bit longer?.

Christopher McComish

executive
#30

longer for that to really occur. Well, yes, I mean, the new hires and the growth of the balance sheet is just, you know, just one lever that we would pull. You know, we're not going to take on additional risk from an asset growth to have that overcome. So we're going to remain disciplined. We'll continue to look at, you know, expense saving opportunities that could make up some of that and generating other forms of fee income. You know, if you think about an $8 billion balance sheet on either side of the loan and deposit makeup, it's, you're talking about a base to make up $6 million annualized in net interest income. And so we just feel confident that we're going to be able to pull any number of levers in order to overcome that kind of number. We've made $36 million this quarter. quite consistent with the growth that we're seeing. And so we don't want to do anything that is overly aggressive to make up that number. We believe we can do it through what we've shown over time and that's the effective running of the company. You look at the operating leverage that we have right now, We grew revenue, that interest income, around 5% first six months of the year. Expenses were closer to 1%. That operating leverage is pretty significant, and that can translate to making up those kinds of savings.

Unknown Speaker

unknown
#31

Just to clarify, we had a question come in on the timing of the impact. If we crossed here in the second half, that would start in the second half of 27.

Daniel Cardenas

analyst
#32

Okay. Got it. Perfect. And then just returning to loan growth in the quarter, what was the impact from pay downs and pay offs in the quarter?.

Dave Antolik

executive
#33

Well, we did see that commercial real estate permanent loan bucket decline, as you may You know, the CMBS market is relatively active in the permanent insurance market, but we continue to fund through on our construction loans in support of those same borrowers. So based on what we see from existing commitments and demand in the market, we believe that that kind of pace can be continued but that pressure that headwind from the permanent market is going to continue to be something that we're going to face throughout the balance of the year and certainly in the next year the paydowns were a little bit lighter than typical in in the quarter um So we did get a little bit of a benefit there in terms of the net growth by having slightly lighter, but looking ahead, we don't see that as being a trend.

Daniel Cardenas

analyst
#34

Okay, got it. Perfect. All right. All my other questions have been asked and answered. Thank you, guys.

Operator

operator
#35

Thanks. Thanks, Dan. Your next question comes from the line of Matthew Brees with Stevens Inc. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Matthew Breese

analyst
#36

Hey, good afternoon guys. I'm at I'm at maybe we could just touch on. pipeline, pipeline yields spreads and between C&I and commercial real estate and curious how competitive dynamics are playing out in your markets. It just sounds like elsewhere in kind of the mid-Atlantic things are heating up competition wise. I'm curious what you're experiencing.

Dave Antolik

executive
#37

Yes, if I if I look at just strictly pipeline approved pipeline from first quarter versus second quarter, we're up modestly in both CRE and CNI, more so in the CRE space as a as a recognition of those hirings that we've made. ABL pipeline activity that's headed our way that could help us with incremental growth. Turn to consumer, you know, mortgages, similar to where it was, Q1. And I would expect mortgage activity to look in Q2 similar to how it did in Q1. And then looking at consumer home equity, I would expect Q3 based on pipelines today to show similar growth, maybe a little higher in Q3 than we saw in Q2. So kind of all those things. combined give us that outlook to a guidance of mid single digit total loan growth for Q2, I'm sorry, for the balance of the year. AND HOW ARE YIELDS AND SPREAD HOLDING UP? Yes, YIELDS, THEY'RE HOLDING UP. I MEAN, THERE'S STILL COMPETITIVE PRESSURE. But so far so good. We're disciplined relative to how we price and the market, particularly in the areas where we see the most activity, construction, there's still a reasonable return based on the risk that we take in that book. market's willing to accept that pricing we haven't seen any significant pressure there um We've seen some additional pressure in the deposit book. I mean, you're seeing CD pricing and money market pricing competition become more aggressive, particularly from smaller banks. larger bank brethren aren't as aggressive when it comes to deposit rates, but there the smaller brand competition who tend to be a little pesky when it comes to pricing deposits.

Unknown Speaker

unknown
#38

Yes, maybe to put a finer point on it, I mean, educated guess, are your pipeline yields still better than 650?.

Dave Antolik

executive
#39

No. No. Okay. Overall, like, you know, the new loan rate over the quarter was just over six. I anticipate that the pipeline probably reflects a very similar sort of rate.

Matthew Breese

analyst
#40

got okay Chris I know this comes up every quarter now especially as he kind of towards 10 billion, but how are M&A discussions coming along? You know, our conversation activities mimicking, you know, overall deal volumes that we're seeing in the space, which is pretty slow.

Christopher McComish

executive
#41

Yes, I would say conversation activities haven't slowed down from the standpoint of thinking strategically about partnerships. I think those activities continue to be at a at an acceptable pace and I haven't seen any significant decline in those sorts of things. And so we continue to remain in the market and proactive with potential partners as we do believe it's an opportunity for us down the road.

Matthew Breese

analyst
#42

Are there a number of deals that, you know, since you stepped into the seat that you've passed on and maybe elaborate on, you know, whether or not that that kind of makes you a more selective buyer than we might normally see.

Christopher McComish

executive
#43

Yes, I'm going to I'm not going to go there comparing myself with with others or ourselves with others, but yes there are a number of deals that we've, we've chosen, uh, not to move forward with. It may be, um, you know, we, we think about what, um, is important to our company, cultural fit, um, business mix, the makeup of the company. You know, we know our, you know, so one of the things that we've been working on art over the past few years is continuing to grow and enhance and build that deposit franchise. So some of the targets that we look at may be more of an asset play than a customer deposit play, and that something like that may not be as appealing to us as it would be to somebody else. And then we also, as we've talked about in other quarters, Matt, we think about geographic expansion and those contiguous markets south and east of us and through the state of Ohio are all very attractive to us. So we're not slowing down in the number of conversations and that remains to be seen. remains active. But yes, we've looked at a number of things that we've chosen not to.

Matthew Breese

analyst
#44

Great. I really appreciate that. I'll leave it there. Thank you. Sure thing.

Operator

operator
#45

Your next call comes from the line of Justin Crowley with Piper Sammler. Your line is now open. Please go ahead.

Justin Crowley

analyst
#46

Hey, good afternoon, guys. On the loan growth, you know, in particular, CNI, and, you know, I know you folks have been talking about that as a focus for a while, and, of course, for this quarter, you know, and I know it can be a lumpy area, but can you talk about expectations there going forward, and perhaps just any comments on you know, are there any specialty groups or certain geographies driving that growth?.

Dave Antolik

executive
#47

So Justin, if you look at where we've hired, think about this more geographically than because we're pretty well diversified when it comes to industry but geographically the the majority of the hires were in western Pennsylvania so that's where we're seeing activity we've also made a number of hires in northeast Ohio um where we're seeing some increase to pipeline. We also added one CNI banker in Eastern PA. pretty well diversified both geographically and again looking at industry and concentration there's nothing meaningfully that's moved and nor do we anticipate that so we're relatively opportunistic making sure that we have the right people in place disciplined underwriters and and portfolio managers.

Christopher McComish

executive
#48

One area that Dave touched on earlier was our asset based lending group that is seeing nice activity and pipeline looks solid there as part of the growth equation as we move.

Justin Crowley

analyst
#49

Okay, got it. And then I guess just pivoting a little, just sort of related to the conversation on buybacks. what are sort of your broader thoughts on capital levels where they are um you know certainly still very strong but you know of course down from the peak is there a certain ratio or ratios um where you look at targeting a certain threshold uh what does that thought process look like.

Unknown Speaker

unknown
#50

Yes, and we take a combined sort of bottoms-up approach to try to build at least some levels that, above which we're comfortable at, based on regulatory environment plus our internal capital stress testing that we do to see how much capital we need as a cushion, and then making sure that we have that plus. And we still have, we still think we have some room to reduce that. So the decision really becomes, you know, how do we, how do we manage that better. You know, we did, it was so large that buybacks, I think were made sense for that first round of it. But as we're starting to utilize that more, some other avenues like, you know, different types of asset growth and certainly the M&A piece comes into play. So we have, you know, in terms of some, internal targets, but we still feel like we have space above that to maneuver.

Justin Crowley

analyst
#51

Okay, and I don't know if you're really able to quantify that much further, but do you look at regulatory ratios in terms of staying above a certain level?.

Unknown Speaker

unknown
#52

Yes, I mean that's that's the part of the building blocks. We would start with the regulatory definitions and then add a cushion to that and then build upon that with the what our testing is telling us that we would need to cover an extreme event in the market. And that becomes kind of the floor of the target range for us.

Justin Crowley

analyst
#53

Okay, got it. And then one just quick last one, kind of like a modeling question, but just on expenses, I think you threw out the $58 million number in terms of kind of the right way to think about the base going forward. And so just kind of curious what kind of, I guess, is going to drive that lower base. from where you were in the second quarter, just as we kind of think about the next few periods, modeling ahead.

Unknown Speaker

unknown
#54

Yes, I mean, quarter to quarter, there's always a little bit of lumpiness on the margin. So this particular quarter, there were a couple of things that don't necessarily repeat that were slightly higher. The main drivers are expense. the amount of people that we have and how much we spend. That's been, we anticipate that to be fairly consistent. So, yes. We think, just given the minor lumpiness of expenses, just generally that $58 million level is something we should be able to manage to for at least the rest of this year.

Justin Crowley

analyst
#55

Okay, got it. Great. I will leave it there. Thank you guys so much.

Operator

operator
#56

Thank you. Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the call over to Chief Executive Officer Chris McCommish for closing remarks.

Christopher McComish

executive
#57

Well, thanks everybody for being on the call. I know these are busy days for all of you with the number of earnings announcements, but we certainly appreciate your engagement with our company and your very good questions. Have a great rest of the day and we look forward to talking to you soon. Thanks.

Operator

operator
#58

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