SANUWAVE Health, Inc. (SNWV) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

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Thank you, Leslie. So welcome to the second quarter 2026 earnings call. Our form 10Q was filed with the SEC last night, along with our earnings release and our updated presentation was made available on our website in the investor section. Please refer to that during the presentation. Joining me on the call is Peter Sorensen, our CFO, and after the presentation, we will open the call to Q&A. Let me begin with the forward-looking statements and other disclosures. This call may contain forward-looking statements, such as statements relating to future financial results, production expectations, plans for future business development activities, and expectations regarding the impact of changes in reimbursement levels and tariff rates. Investors are cautioned that any such forward-looking statements are not guarantees of future performance and involve risks and uncertainties, many of which are beyond the company's ability to control. Description of these risks and uncertainties and other factors that could affect our financial results included in our SEC filings. Actual results may differ materially from those projected in the forward looking statements. Company undertakes no obligation to update any forward-looking statement. Certain percentages discussed in this call are calculated from the underlying whole-dollar amounts and therefore may not recalculate from the rounded numbers used for disclosure purposes. As a reminder, our discussion today will include non-GAAP numbers. Reconciliations between our GAAP and non-GAAP results can be found in our recently filed 10-Q for the period ended June 30th, 2026. Okay, so as we discussed in several of our recent press releases, Q2 actually started out fairly strong and applicator sales remained so during the whole quarter, setting a new all-time record for both unit volumes up 13% sequentially from our previous record in Q1 and 27% year-on-year and for applicator revenues of 8% sequentially from Q1 and surpassing the previous record from Q3 2025. These were 13% year over year. We know that the release looks like it should be 14%. That's the whole number rounding issue that we mentioned. The divergence on price predominantly can shift to a reseller model and the company selling applicators at wholesale prices. Overall, during the quarter, applicator sales went largely to plan and on model. We take this to be a good sign about customer confidence in the Ultramus product, especially in such a difficult market in which so many wound care providers have gone BK or closed their doors. As a result of CMS changes to skin-soap reimbursement and clawbacks of reimbursement associated with that modality. As we've said in the past, neither the wounds nor the patients have gone away. And so as the number of practitioner entities drop, we continue to see significant consolidation in the space. This has all been much as we expected. Where Q2 meaningfully diverged from plan and expectation was on the system sales side. As the number of Ultramis customers, some of them quite large, of closed-up shop in recent quarters. This has created an unprecedented market for used Ultramis devices, which wound up having profound cannibalization effects on our business during the quarter. I mean, I suppose if one were inclined to see good news here, it would be that at least people are buying them. Obviously, the bad news is that they weren't buying them from us. So many have asked about whether and to what extent we can size the impact that this had on the quarter. The honest answer to this is it's pretty difficult. Because while we've seen a number of these transactions directly, either through the sales process or as new users reach out to us, us, there's simply no way to know what percentage of the overall trend we're capturing. So our best guess is that used systems accounted for 40 to 60 system sales in the quarter, but But just to be really clear here, it's difficult to be precise. And this is our best estimate. Customers buying applicators through resellers who are unable to check a serial number against the original purchasers list would not necessarily be visible as having bought a used system. Obviously, the same is true for existing customers who simply added another system. This also makes active systems a little tricky to calculate just now and creates the potential to undercount somewhat. But based on our ordered within the last six months, less those we know have closed their doors, even if it was fewer than six months ago methodology, our count for active systems at the end of Q2 was 1,411, up 29 from the 1,382 at the end of Q1. WoundShare has been quite a market over the last 12 months. The announcement of the pricing drop for skin subs to $127 a square centimeter took a $14 billion space and gave it something on the order of a 95% haircut. Reported CMS billing for 2026 thus far who fares this out. Clawbacks on past payments have s***** huge amounts of money out of the space and this has put quite a few practitioners out of business as many were users of both Ultramist and Allograft, so this has had a profound effect on the health of our customer base. Their use systems coming up for sale stand testament to this. Hopes that 2027 might see a skin sub reimbursement pricing rise were not met when CMS provided early guidance on this topic. We did get some positive news from the calendar year 2027 Hospital Outpatient Prospective Payment System proposed rule, released July 2nd, which proposes to increase reimbursement for Ultramist by 14% for 2027 when used in the hospital outpatient setting. A place of service that includes a number of our customers, has been an increasing focus for us. Then on July 14th, CMS calendar year 2027, physician fee schedule, who proposed rule was released and obviously this is not as good. 97.610 was nominated as a mispriced code and changes to reimbursement suggested. If, and I really want to emphasize that this is still a proposed and not final rule. This rule were to go into effect, our read is that reimbursement for Ultramist would drop from its present $397 average to approximately $316 in 2027, with further reductions to follow in 2028. We disagree with a number of the assumptions CMS is using to arrive at these figures, and while getting into particulars is not appropriate in this venue, suffice it to say that both we and a great number of Ultramist users, both professional and academic, plan to participate in this comment period. Honestly, it's been gratifying to get such a significant amount an inpouring of support and will make the most of it. Having a product that your users truly love and believe in and that is changing and saving patient lives and that provides profound savings to the overall system is a good place from which to start. I mean, just to take an example, diabetic foot ulcers are the number one cause of lower extremity amputations, in the US every year. With 130,000 such amputations and an estimated lifetime cost of over 600K per patient emerging from each, the cost to the system from ultramystic to minimus, relative to the potential for savings, which are enormous, its role in underserved rural markets has been particularly large as well. So while some of the costs Well, Sanywave wholeheartedly supports CMS's goal of accurate data-driven payment. Our goal in this comment period will be to ensure that the data that drives this decision is in fact both accurate and complete, and that it represents full practitioner costs and the systemic benefits of providing treatment under 97.610, which of course is the intent of these rules and of this system. The comment period runs through September 14th, and we expect the final rule to be announced in or around the first week of November. I mean, we wouldn't be the first company to get such a proposed rule overturned or reassessed, and we're going to try very, very hard to be the next one. We believe that there is a strong case to be made. In the meantime, we continue the longer term push into indications like burn, hospital-acquired pressure injury, post-acute, hospital inpatient, hospital outpatient, pediatric, and long-term care facilities, both to expand the reach of our product. because such users tend to be sticky, long-term customers with high usage rates. These groups take longer to win over, but the groundwork we've laid over the last nine to 12 months is starting to bear some fruit here, and we're optimistic about continuing to make progress. With that, I'll now turn you over to Peter Sorensen, our CFO, who can walk you through the rest of our financials.

Thank you, Morgan. Revenue for the second quarter came in at $9.7 million, a decrease of 3% versus 10.1 million in the prior year quarter. Speaking directly to this decrease, the softness was concentrated in capital or system sales, while the recurring core applicator business held up well. Alternative applicator revenue grew 13% year-over-year. year with applicator unit volume up 27% year over year, reflecting continued strong demand across our active install base. Before turning to the financials in more detail, a brief update on the sales tax matter we discussed on prior calls and in our filings. We have now finalized voluntary disclosure agreements with a number of applicable states and have begun remitting the amounts due under them. through the remaining states, the VDA process continues to do what is intended to do, limiting the look-back period and abating penalties in many jurisdictions. In several cases, final settlements have come in below the amounts we had previously accrued. Continue to push this to completion with a third party tax advisors and expect to finalize the remaining agreements as responses come in. With that, let's take a closer look at the financial results for the quarter revenue for the 3 months and the June 30th, 2026 totaled 9.7Million dollars, a decrease of 3% compared to 10.1Million dollars for the same period of 2025. the year over year decrease was driven by low revenue. lower Ultraman system revenue, which declined approximately 34% to $2.3 million from $3.4 million, reflecting weaker capital sales amid financial pressure across the industry and increased availability of new systems in the market. This was partially by continued growth in consumables, ultramas applicator revenue, the recurring core of the business grew approximately 13% year over year. On a reported basis, our consumables, parts and accessories line, which is primarily applicators, but also includes parts and other miscellaneous items, increased approximately 12% to $7.3 million from $6.5 million. Growth margin as a percentage of revenue for the three months ended June 30, 2026 with 76.2%, a decrease of approximately 183 basis points year-over-year from 78.1%. The The decline was driven primarily by a shift in revenue mix toward consumables and away from higher margin system sales, together with lower average selling prices resulting from a higher mix of reseller or wholesale pricing. Operating loss for three months ended June 30th, 2026, totaled $0.3 million, a swing of approximately 1.7 million compared to operating income of $1.4 million in the same period last year. That swing reflects roughly $0.4 million of lower gross margin and roughly $1.3 million of higher operating expenses. OPX for the quarter were $7.7 million compared to $6.4 million in the prior year quarter, an increase of approximately $1.3 million. By category, G&A expense increased approximately $.5 million, sales and marketing increased approximately $.2 million, R&D increased approximately $.4 million as we continue to invest in product development, and depreciation and amortization increased approximately $0.1 million. Approximately 0.4 of that $1.3 million increase, roughly a third, was non-cash stock-based compensation spread across G&A, sales and marketing, and R&D. Within G&A, higher personnel costs, higher legal and professional fees, and higher bad debt expense together more than accounted for the increase. We were partially offset by an approximately $0.9 million favorable year-over-year swing in state and local sales tax, so the prior year sales tax charge gave way to a net benefit this quarter from the resolution of our VDAs at amounts below previously accrued balances. Setting that sales tax benefit aside, the underlying increase in operating expense reflects our continued investment in headcount, R&D, commercial capabilities. Despite these increases, we remain focused on discipline cost management and expect operating leverage to improve as revenue scales. Net loss for the three months ended June 30, 2026, was $0.7 million, compared to net income of $0.6 million for the same period in 2025. Year-over-year change was driven primarily by the swing in operating results I just described. Below the operating line, total operating their expense actually improved to $0.4 million from $0.9 million. Interest expense fell approximately $1.4 million year-over-year following our September 2025 refinancing with J.P. Morgan, partially offset by the recurrence of a $1 million non-cash gain on the change in fair value derivative liabilities recognized in the prior year quarter. EBITDA for the three months ended June 30th, 2026 was positive $0.1 million. Adjusted EBITDA was positive $1.2 million compared to $3.2 million in the same period last year. Year-over-year decline reflects the lower operating results, including our continued investments in headcount R&D and commercial expansion. Total current assets amounted to $23.2 million as of June 30th, 2026 versus $24.6 million as of December 31st, 2025. Cash and cash equivalents totaled $9.4 million as of June 30th, 2026. During the first half of the year, we made $2.9 million in scheduled principal payments on our term loan and remained in compliance with all covenants under a JP Morgan credit agreement. To summarize, the second quarter was a more challenging one on the top line with capital sales pressured by the industry environment. At the same time, the recurring core of our business continued to grow, our balance sheet liquidity remained sound, and we stayed disciplined on costs. We're grateful for the continued trust and support of our stakeholders. As we move through the balance of 2026, we remain focused on operational discipline, of Ultramus and positioning Sanway for sustained profitable growth. With that, I'll turn the call back over to Morgan.

Thanks, Peter. So, with regard to guidance, We're going to adopt a cautious stance here and therefore owing both to own the market conditions, including the Medicare reimbursement developments discussed previously. SanuAvis is withdrawing its previously issued fiscal year 2026 revenue guidance, which no longer be relied upon. The company will not provide quarterly or annual guidance. until there is greater clarity on these topics and expects to reassess this after CMS publishes its final rule, which is anticipated in the fourth quarter of 2026. So as ever, I want to express my gratitude to the Saniwave team for all the hard work and the commitment and the trust. especially who have been so engaged and supportive. Thanks to all of you. And so that's it for prepared remarks. Leslie, can we please open it up to questions?.

Thank you. If you would like to ask a question, please press star 1 on your telephone keypad now. To leave the queue at any time, press star 2. Once again, that is star 1 to ask a question. We will pause for a moment to allow everyone a chance to join the queue. Our first question comes from Sean Westrope with Deep Cell Capital. Your line is now open.

Hey Morgan, how are you? Morning, Shawn. Morning. I just wanted to ask on the kind of the breakdown. on your customer side versus kind of like the for profit, your kind of like your mobile wound care versus hospital and kind of like other like non, I guess, for profit seeking businesses? What's kind of the breakdown between those two groups?.

looking for an exact number. Yes, I mean, so, yes, I understand the impulse. One of the reasons that we have been sort of hesitant to provide that number with any real clarity. Is. is that it's sort of a fuzzier topic than one might expect at first pass. Like we just, we have a lot of customers whose models models are hybrid. And so, you know, who have kind of in, you know, who have brick and mortar facilities, who have mobile, some of which are, you know, are combinations of HOPD and mobile and like, you know, or, so it's a, the delineation is not as sharp as you might expect. And so it's sort of difficult to, it's difficult to sort of size with any precision. The, I mean, the upshot is, yes, we have obviously, you know, historically, there's been a lot of, we've done a lot of work in mobile. That tends to be the, yes. That tends to be one of the larger use case, or has historically been one of the larger use cases for Ultramist. As we go forward with groups like Keologics and a number of our hospital customers, the complexion of that changes somewhat. Yes. these customers tend to be slower to ramp up, but kind of, you know, have that sort of super tanker momentum once they get going. Yes.

Great. That makes sense. That makes sense. Thanks for that. If I could just ask one follow-up. You mentioned the kind of the numbers on the CMS reimbursement a little on what you think what you guys think on the proposed side. I think it was like 397 down to 316. Can you just give us a little more color on how you're getting to the 316 number? And that would be helpful.