Saudi Aramco Base Oil Company - Luberef (2223) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
November 3, 2025
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Saleh Alghamdi
executiveHello, everyone. I'm Saleh Alghamdi from the Investor Relations Department at Luberef. It is my pleasure to welcome you in today's audio webcast, where we will be discussing our performance for the third quarter of the year 2025. I'm also pleased to be joined today by our Chief Executive Officer, Mr. Samer Al-Hokail; and our Chief Financial Officer, Mr. Saud Kamakhi. Our session will begin with a presentation highlighting Luberef's Q3 2025 performance, followed by a Q&A session. Please note, this webcast is being recorded for future reference. Before we dive into the presentation, I would like to draw your attention to our cautionary statements. During today's presentation, we may make forward-looking statements that refer to estimates, plans and expectations. Actual results and outcomes may differ materially due to factors stated in this slide. With that out of the way, I will now hand over the call to our CEO, Mr. Samer Al-Hokail.
Samer Adbulaziz Al-Hokail
executiveThank you, Saleh and good day, everyone. Welcome to Luberef's Third Quarter 2025 Earnings Call and thank you for joining us. In Q3, our unwavering commitment to safety and operational excellence have led to an exceptional performance results. We have achieved a total of 41.1 million safe man hours without a lost time injury, maintained a 0 total recordable incident rate, TRIR, reached a year-to-date mechanical availability of 98.9% and we maintained a 0.93 million standard cubic feet of greenhouse gas emissions, underscoring our focus on efficient performance. During the quarter, we expanded our customer base through a new ultra-low sulfur diesel sales agreement with Saudi Aramco. This initiative aimed to enhance our byproduct crack margins and to manage market volatility while maintaining operational resilience. We strengthened our partnership with Bahri chemicals and shipping company through a new contract for shipments, a step that will further optimize our logistics and deliver meaningful reductions in our freight costs. This collaboration reinforces Luberef's competitive position in the industry, enhances cost stability and ensures our sustained operational excellence. Building on the successes achieved in HVGO this year, we are now working to extend this optimization approach further by scaling up and evaluating other intermediate streams. Luberef has launched the Group III base oil slating program, marking another important step in expanding our range of products. This program is underway, aiming to secure commercial readiness for producing Group III. This initiative represents a key milestone in our ambition to diversify our portfolio, increase market presence and align with the evolving needs of customers. The Group III+ technical study has entered a crucial stage, marking a step forward in our broader efforts to diversify our products. It is undergoing a pilot configuration to verify product quality. The results of these tests are expected in the fourth quarter. If the results are aligned with our long-term growth strategy, we will carry the project to the next phase. The Growth II expansion project continues to progress with overall completion reaching 60%. Despite some procurement delays that extended into this quarter, our focused recovery plan measures have pushed the procurement phase to an advanced stage. During Q4, both procurement and construction activities are planned to accelerate, pushing the project completion rate to approximately 70% to 75% by year-end. We continue to work to mitigate delays and add resources to complete the project as early as possible in 2026. Further details and confirmations will be shared in the 2025 annual call. Our capital allocation continues to support the Growth II project. Though spending was lower than planned due to an ongoing procurement delays, as of September 2025, total CapEx reached SAR 138 million. We expect spending to increase as procurement progress and construction activities intensify in the upcoming quarters. As we look ahead, we are fully prepared for the upcoming scheduled turnaround, which represents a pivotal step in upholding and strengthening our operational excellence. This turnaround will include a series of planned maintenance activities and strategic construction work under the Growth II project aimed at reinforcing our operational reliability and safety records. In the first 9 months of this year, our base oil crack margins reached SAR 1,884 per metric ton, reflecting a significant increase of 9% compared to the same period in 2024 and exceeding the historical 10-year average by 5%. Building on our strong operational foundation and a focus on efficiency, we continue to enhance our market position and deliver sustainable growth. Our commitment to strategic initiatives, asset optimization and new opportunities is laying the groundwork for accelerated expansion and long-term value creation. With that, I will hand over to our CFO, Saud Kamakhi, to walk you through the financial performance of the company.
Saud Kamakhi
executiveThank you, Mr. Samer. It's a pleasure to welcome everyone and I'm pleased to walk you through our Q3 2025 financial results and share our outlook for the remainder of the fiscal year. We sustained a strong financial performance, supported by higher crack margins despite a decline in base oil sales. Although our net income in the first half of 2025 was below last year's record level, performance improved notably in the third quarter with net income rising 14% quarter-on-quarter. Our continued operational improvements and business execution have narrowed the gap significantly, reducing the year-over-year difference to just 2%. During this period, our free cash flow declined by around 43% compared to the same period last year. This reduction was driven by working capital changes as well as increase in our growth CapEx. Additionally, spending across sustaining turnaround and Growth II project has risen relative to last year, reflecting our continued commitment to long-term operational excellence and expansion. Although our cash conversion rate softened during the period, our financial resilience remains robust, supported by an EBITDA of SAR 968 million, free cash flow of SAR 604 million and a healthy cash balance of around SAR 1.2 billion. Combined with our exceptionally low gearing ratio, this highlights our strong liquidity position and ability to fund growth while maintaining financial stability. When we look at our performance over the first 9 months of 2025, our net income recorded a 2% decrease compared to the corresponding period of 2024. This performance was driven by lower byproduct crack margins and a decrease in base oil sales volume despite the increase in base oil crack margins. OpEx decreased slightly during the period, reflecting continued cost discipline, while Zakat expenses rose marginally compared to last year. Turning to our cash position. We began the year with a balance of SAR 1,187 million over the first 9 months. Our operations generated SAR 885 million in cash, highlighting the company's strong underlining ability to convert earnings into liquidity. Our focus on sustainable growth remained solid as we directed SAR 282 million toward capital expenditures aimed at strengthening our assets and expanding our capabilities. At the same time, we reaffirm our commitment to shareholder value to continue distributing dividends, demonstrating our ability to invest for the future while delivering immediate returns. We also recorded total cash outflow of SAR 102 million, mainly related to loan repayments and financing costs. Taking all movements into account, our cash balance at the end of the first 9 months of 2025 stood at SAR 1,170 million, a modest decline of SAR 17 million from the beginning of the year, fully consistent with our strategic spending plans and capital allocation priorities. Moving to the guidance. Our production target remains the same for the rest of the year. However, the CapEx assigned for Growth II has been revised to be from SAR 200 million to SAR 250 million for 2025, reflecting the procurement delays that were previously highlighted by Mr. Samer. Ultimately, in the third quarter of 2025, Luberef continued to demonstrate strong operational momentum, delivering consistent progress in line with our strategic priorities. Through disciplined execution and a clear focus on long-term value, we advanced several key initiatives that are building a solid foundation for sustainable growth and future success. As we're entering the last quarter of 2025, we look back to a year of achievements and we remain confident in our strategic direction that continues to drive our success. The focus is firmly set on positioning Luberef as a recognized leader in the global base oil and specialty lubricants market, guided by disciplined execution and a commitment to long-term value creation. With that, we will move to the Q&A session, which will be moderated by Saleh.
Saleh Alghamdi
executiveThank you, Mr. Saud. [Operator Instructions] Mr. Ildar.
Ildar Khaziev
analystCongratulations on the strong set of numbers. Can I just ask to provide some guidance on the potential impact of the new diesel supply? What kind of impact are we talking about depending on the prevailing diesel cracks globally? And secondly, the same on the new freight agreement with Bahri, what kind of impact are we talking about year-on-year potentially? And when exactly that contract becomes operational and active?
Samer Adbulaziz Al-Hokail
executiveSo Ildar, thanks for the question. This is Samer, the CEO. These are 2 major agreements we've signed, one with Aramco and the other with Bahri and more to come with shipping. On the latter, which is the Bahri, significant reduction in freight operation costs. So this should hit our operating expenses and our operating costs, OpEx significantly, I mean, positively on that. We're talking about double digits on the freight itself, reduction percentages. On the low -- ultra-low sulfur diesel, that's a big thing. It's pretty much a 20-year agreement, supplying around 6,500 barrels per day and subject for availability. This is going to be marketed all over and above what we used to market the diesel of. This is pretty much low sulfur ppm diesel. In the past that was just sent and sold in the normal diesel ppm. So we should get a premium on that area. And I think guidance will be given further in the -- hopefully, Q4.
Saud Kamakhi
executiveSo adding to that, that is important for us to find a different outlet. The major reason to do that also is to support our byproduct margins positively in the future.
Ildar Khaziev
analystAnd do I understand correctly that -- so the amount of diesel volume -- so the diesel volume under this agreement is basically is how much you roughly produce today. With Growth II project completed, you might have actually a higher diesel production volume. So would you expect that additional diesel volume to be also included in this deal or rather not at this point?
Saud Kamakhi
executiveSo up to 6,500 barrels per day, this is Saud -- the new agreement with Aramco. Even supplying all of that in daily basis on that quantities, there are additional production of diesel of the current operation. With the new operation that there is any new diesel addition that still we have different sources to place that diesel later even after the Growth project.
Samer Adbulaziz Al-Hokail
executiveI think, Ildar, spot on. I don't have a number top of my head with the new project. Definitely, asphalt will be increasing in the new project, Growth II, diesel and naphtha will be increasing because we're going Group III, so it's going to be cracked further. So the expectation, the yield of diesel should be less. I'm just putting my chemical engineering hat here on that. So -- but we'll give the guidance on that.
Ildar Khaziev
analystAnd maybe lastly, I think you talked about potential UCO supply contract, to be potentially secured with the Growth II project completion. Is there any change in your expectations for that deal? When should we expect this to happen, if it happens?
Samer Adbulaziz Al-Hokail
executiveAre you referring to the UCO supply agreement that coincides with the Growth project itself to reach the [ 65 ]. That should be coming very, very soon. And we don't anticipate any issues, honestly, on that. It's just more of having the process to work with Aramco but we should be getting it hopefully by Q1 or even earlier. Back -- I just want -- a clarification to others. Back to the sulfur diesel. We used to sell that at a 500 ppm. What we produce is almost 10 ppm or even less than 10 ppm. Imagine the difference on that. So we were able to secure a sale agreement to sell it at 10 ppm pricing. And pretty much you could look at Platts and see the difference between the 500 and the 10 ppm and figure out the math there.
Saleh Alghamdi
executiveWe'll turn next to Mr. Fawad Khan.
Muhammad Khan Qadri
analyst[Foreign Language] I'll just pick up from where we have left on the ultra-low sulfur diesel oil. One of the comments mentioned that the current agreement -- the new agreement does not cover the production of the current plant or the current configuration. Is my understanding correct? So that means the -- under the current production arrangement or setup, the company is producing more than 6,500 barrels per day of ultralow sulfur diesel oil.
Saleh Alghamdi
executiveCan you repeat again? Sorry, can you repeat the part about the configuration production?
Muhammad Khan Qadri
analystSo apparently, the comments mentioned that the new agreement does not cover the -- even the current production of ultra-low sulfur diesel oil from the 2 plants or from the hydrocracker only. So is my understanding correct that the potential to increase or the potential positive impact from this agreement could be higher once we get into the Growth II project.
Samer Adbulaziz Al-Hokail
executiveIt's going to be by volume. So Group II -- first of all, thanks, Fawad, for the question. I'm just trying to maybe better answer, give clarity on that. Currently, what we used to sell, we should be selling at a higher premium given the 6,500 barrels. That's one part, which is the current production on Luberef. Now when Growth II comes, we'll have further guidance. I don't have the exact number or predominant number. But however, it should be more than 6,500 and it's going to be volume game at a higher price. I think this answers your question.
Muhammad Khan Qadri
analystPartly. Let me try to rephrase the question. So the agreement is for 6,500 barrels per day. So the current production is higher than 6,500 barrels per day or it is lower than the current ceiling under the agreement?
Saleh Alghamdi
executiveIf you're referring to the current production, it's a bit more, so it's about 6,500 -- sorry, it's above 6,500 barrels per day. This is just the agreement that was established with Saudi Aramco. So the current contract will exist and any surplus will be sold to other customers, which -- with whom we have other standing agreements.
Muhammad Khan Qadri
analystOkay, sure. And coming to the Growth II project and also tying up with the turnaround. Apparently, the earlier guidance was for the turnaround and the commissioning of the Growth II project to coincide sometime in December. And then you have the new turnaround, which is starting from mid-November. So my question is, would the -- once the Growth II project is about to be commissioned, so we -- should we expect another shutdown of the whole Group II train at the time of the commissioning of the project? Or would it not require any shutdown at that time?
Samer Adbulaziz Al-Hokail
executiveThe -- Fawad, good question as well. And that's the clarity we want to give to the market soon, hopefully, by our guidance in the year-end. Ultimately, we don't want to shut down but rather slow down to able to hook up the Growth II pots and pans and all the above on that. That's the ultimate. And that's what we're working hard during the T&I, in the turnaround to be able to install -- pretty much give some feasibility and flexibility whereby and the second, whatever -- when it ever happens, the shutdown or slowdown becomes less impactful from our production point of view. So that's the thinking now. Times and guidance will be given as things are moving. It's a moving target. We are -- took over some of the activities of the contractor pretty much, descoped some of the activities and we are pretty much becoming in the driver's seat on that to hopefully get this project as soon as possible in 2026.
Muhammad Khan Qadri
analystAnd in terms of the timing, I mean, you are expecting progress of around 12% to 15% in 1 quarter. Would that be a good guidance for future progress or future quarters that means perhaps by end of third quarter or early third quarter, perhaps we should expect the commissioning of this project, are you expecting acceleration in sometime in early 2026.
Samer Adbulaziz Al-Hokail
executiveI think by year-end, we'll have a better clarity to give pretty much good guidance if it's going to be Q1, Q2, Q3 on that. So by end of December, I think that would be the right time for us to provide the right guidance.
Saud Kamakhi
executiveI think the most important thing here is the actionable items and action that the company is taking, as mentioned by Mr. Samer that during the next year T&I, we will do our best to complete as much as we can and also the -- all the procurement acceleration efforts that we are making, all of that will help us [Foreign Language] to accelerate the completion. And this is where we want to focus on until the year-end where we have better guidance on moving forward with the project.
Samer Adbulaziz Al-Hokail
executiveAnd just to be -- to answer and to be frank, I'm very optimistic about this plan that we've revised the plan in terms of the schedule, where we are, procurement activities, material is incoming now, it's in the field, people are very busy, prefabrication and what have you. So a lot is happening for the sake of this project since the last 3 months and big progress that took place. Hopefully, by year-end, we might reach to 70% to 75% completion.
Muhammad Khan Qadri
analystAll right. I do understand there have been some comments regarding the upgrade -- revision in the CapEx for the project. So if you can please remind us what was the upgrade? Earlier, if I understand correctly, the total CapEx guidance was around SAR 750 million for this project? And what's the new guidance now?
Saud Kamakhi
executiveSo the total CapEx for the project amount has not been changed. It's still SAR 750 million. The guidance that has been changed is the amount that is expected to be spent in this year. The guidance was SAR 250 million to SAR 350 million. However, now we have reduced that guidance for the next -- till the end of the year to SAR 200 million to SAR 250 million. However, the cost expectation until completion has not been changed.
Muhammad Khan Qadri
analystThere's no change as to the total cost CapEx for this project as yet?
Saud Kamakhi
executiveWe do not foresee anything as of now.
Saleh Alghamdi
executiveOkay. Next, Mr. Yasser Alnejaimi. [Operator Instructions]
Yasser Alnejaimi
analystI have 3 questions from my side. What were the main factors that drove the strong expansion in base oil crack margin during the Q3? And how sustainable are this level going into Q4 given the market volatility? This is my first question.
Saleh Alghamdi
executiveOkay. Mr. Yasser, thank you for the question. This year and especially from the end of Q2, as a result of the OPEC+ decisions to go back from the cuts that were previously agreed upon 1.5 years back, we observed the pressure on the crude prices in addition to the direct crude derivatives, such as high sulfur fuel oil, which is the price or the index that our base -- sorry, our feedstock is indexed to. At the same time, we observed that the prices of the base oil remained stable. This created an opportunity to us to benefit from a relatively healthy crack margin. Going forward, looking at the forecast of the base oil prices for the next forecast period, which is approximately 9 months to 1 year, the prices are expected generally to remain the same around the Asia region. There are reports of pressure on the Group I and the Group III but Group II in Asia Pacific region expected to remain the same during the forecast period. As for the high sulfur fuel oil, again, which is the index that our feedstock is indexed to, it is expected to receive even -- or to encounter more pressure for the coming period as a result of the OPEC+ decisions.
Yasser Alnejaimi
analystOkay. My second question is regarding the free cash flow. We see that the free cash flow in Q3, that the company still have a strong free cash flow in Q3. Does the management see scope for higher dividend or special payout in this year despite the upcoming maintenance in November and December?
Saud Kamakhi
executiveThank you, Yasser, for this question. I think that goes into 2 parts. First of all, to talk about the free cash flow and the second item is, we'll talk about the dividends. For the dividends, let's start with that. So far, we have the same policy that has been already approved by the Board, where it's related performance linked to our free cash flow of 60% to 80% of our free cash flow. So this has not been changed yet and this is where we are committed back to our shareholders as of now. For the free cash flow we are -- we generated so far around SAR 600 million during the -- this 9 months. And hopefully, that would continue to grow until end of the year.
Yasser Alnejaimi
analystOkay. We see that profitability margin are expanding in Q3, especially in gross and EBITDA, both improving in a sequential basis. Do you expect this trend to continue post [indiscernible] turnaround? Or was peak in this quarter?
Saud Kamakhi
executiveSo in general, we have noticed the improvement in the crack margin during this year. And that was one of the main reasons where we see the profitability in general have been improved quarter-over-quarter and even if we compare it to the comparable to -- of the last year. So that trend is there according to the reports that prices will be stabilized during the next period, especially after the completion. If we are talking about the short term of then 3 months, 6 months, we have not seen any reports suggested otherwise so far. So we don't give prediction in general but we believe that, that trend is ongoing, especially in the short term after the turnaround [indiscernible] completed.
Saleh Alghamdi
executive[Operator Instructions] Mr. Fawad Khan, back to you again.
Muhammad Khan Qadri
analyst[Foreign Language] This is Fawad Khan from Alinma Capital. Just a question on the Jeddah facility. If I understand correctly, the agreement for operation and different arrangements would expire sometime in April next year or June. So if there's any update regarding the renewal of the agreement to continue operating the plant? If not, when should we expect any clarity on that aspect?
Samer Adbulaziz Al-Hokail
executiveThank you for the question. This will have clarity by hopefully Q4, end of Q4. There are some dialogues and negotiation as we speak. But the company will make an announcement soon. [Foreign Language]
Muhammad Khan Qadri
analyst[Foreign Language] One last question from my side regarding the working capital. There was some certain increase in working capital in the second quarter. And apparently in the third quarter, there was no letup as well. So during the fourth quarter, should we expect any change in the current burden of the working capital on the company or it will remain as it is as we have seen in third -- second quarter and third quarter?
Saud Kamakhi
executiveSo this is a very good question, Fawad. As you know, the working capital will be highly impacted with reduce in our inventory and accounts receivable since the sales will be -- all inventory will be turned into production and it will be sold. So especially a part of it, especially we are talking about the [indiscernible]. So we'll see a positive impact possibly at that site. For this quarter, yes, we saw that there are huge improvements in the first 9 months, especially when we are talking about operational activities that turn out ultimately, which impacted positively in our working capital and also the collection that happened during that period, which has also impacted positively. And as we mentioned last time, it has been impacted by settlement of also some invoices that happened while the prices of our payables at that time might have been, priced at the higher level of our feedstock. So with that, we are -- we'll see how it goes, especially with the turnaround that would have an impact in our movement of working capital.
Saleh Alghamdi
executiveAny further questions? No one in the queue. [Operator Instructions] Okay, gentlemen, thank you for your attendance. Due to no additional questions, we will conclude the call. Investor Relations department is present for any follow-up calls following this earning call and thank you again.
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