Savaria Corporation (SIS) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
May 11, 2023
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Operator
operatorGood afternoon, good evening. My name is Razia. I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to Savaria Corporation's Q1 2023 Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] This call may contain forward-looking statements, which are subject to the disclosure statement contained in Savaria's most recent press release issued on May 10, 2023, with respect to its Q1 2023 results. Thank you. Mr. Sebastien Bourassa, you may begin your conference.
Sébastien Bourassa
executiveThank you, Raz. So basically, this morning, I have the honor to lead the call because Mr. Marcel is absent for personal reason. But he wants to know that he's always available by a call or e-mail if you have any questions and he is doing very good. And he was proud of this Q1, so that's why he started to let his team lead the call. So it was a very good first quarter, historically, which is our strongest quarter for Savaria. So I would like to thank all the employee for their hard work, and we think it was a solid execution because we have a very good organic growth in the accessibility and the patient care. Positively, our backlog remain at a historic level, which is a very good news because it's still, again, that we are in a fantastic industry, and that will be good for the remaining of the year. So very happy about that. As Marcel said in his press release, we continue to build on our plan for the $1 billion and $1 billion is the target that we want to achieve by 2025. And so we continue to elaborate on this plan to make sure we'll be able to execute. Some key highlights in the Accessibility. Mexico ramp-up continue to happen. Right now we have 45 employees. We have 4 different assembly lines, and we are doing some shipments of some units straight to the U.S.A. So this is very important. Supply chain, I hope we don't have too many questions on that today because for us, we consider it is relatively stable. It's a perfect, once in a while there's going to be issue, but overall, it is good and give us the opportunity to achieve our plan. I think [indiscernible] keep this segment for me this morning, but you want to highlight the patient care.
Charles Rimbert
executiveYes. Thanks, Seb. For sure, our Patient Care segment delivered record results in Q1, including an EBITDA margin at top 20% for the quarter. And again, that was a first for the segment. As you might imagine, the team is very proud of their performance as they should be. Well, we don't want to get ahead of ourselves, and it's just one quarter. It goes to show what's possible. And what we're seeing -- and this is really a continuation of what we saw last year, is evidence of the tremendous synergies being unlocked through the integration of Span and Handicare. And in particular, as it relates to Q1, sales were especially strong, up 13% organically versus last year. This was driven by a number of factors, including continued strength and new build activities, cross-selling initiatives and good spending by certain strategic partners. In turn, the higher sales volume allowed for a better fixed cost absorption, which contributed to the record margins experienced in Q1. In addition, we benefited from a good product mix and the realization of some higher-margin projects. And finally, the pricing initiatives that were put in place last year are having a meaningful impact on profitability. So to conclude, it's always nice to start the year with a solid Q1, and we feel good about the backlog exiting the quarter, so there's a certain level of optimism for the remainder of the year as well. With that, I'll pass it over to Steve for the financial review.
Stephen Reitknecht
executiveThanks, Nick, and good morning, everyone. I'm going to begin with some remarks regarding our Q1 2023 consolidated financial metrics. For the quarter, the corporation generated revenue of $211.6 million, up $28.1 million or 15.3% compared to Q1 2022. The increase was driven by strong organic growth of 13.5%, originating from all segments. In addition, the corporation experienced foreign exchange tailwinds of 1.8% in the quarter, combining for 15.3% growth overall. Gross profit and gross margin stood at $72 million and 34%, respectively, compared to $58.5 million and 31.9% in Q1 2022. The increase in gross profit of $13.5 million was mainly driven by higher revenues and increased gross margins and to a lesser extent, favorable foreign exchange rates used in the conversion of the results of subsidiaries. The increase in gross margin versus last year was mainly attributable to greater profitability coming from the Patient Care segment due to better cost absorption and favorable product mix, partially offset by continued inflationary pressures resulting in material and labor cost increases, especially in Europe. Adjusted EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA margin finished at $31.2 million and 14.7%, respectively, compared to $24.4 million and 13.3% in Q1 2022. The improvement in profitability is mainly explained by the gross margin increase as well as the decrease in selling and admin expenses as a percentage of revenue. And now I'm going to move on to our segment results. Revenue from our Accessibility segment was $151.4 million in Q1 2023, an increase of $21 million or 16.1% compared to the same period in 2022. The increase in revenue was mainly attributable to organic growth of 14.4%. Foreign currency had a further positive impact of 1.7% for the quarter as the U.S. dollar and euro both strengthened versus the Canadian dollar. Our revenue growth was fueled by both the residential and commercial sectors as well in price and volume increases, and we continue to build our backlog. At March 31, 2023, our Accessibility backlog was approximately 8% higher than Q4 2022 last quarter. Adjusted EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA margin stood at $23.4 million and 15.5% respectively, compared to $20.5 million and 15.7% for Q1 2022. The increase in adjusted EBITDA was mainly driven by higher sales volumes, while the slight decrease in adjusted EBITDA margin was mainly due to continued inflationary pressures causing higher material and labor costs, especially in Europe, partially offset by better cost absorption from the increased revenues. Revenue from our Patient Care segment was $48.8 million for the quarter, an increase of $7.2 million or 17.2% when compared to Q1 2022. Revenue growth includes organic growth of 13.2%, which was driven in large part by new contracts signed with health care facilities, cross-selling synergies with Handicare and pricing optimization, as Nick alluded to earlier. For the quarter, foreign currency provided a 4% tailwind. Adjusted EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA margin stood at $9.8 million and 20.1% respectively, compared to $5.3 million and 12.8% for the same period in 2022. The increase in both metrics was primarily due to the increase in revenues and improvements in gross margins, mainly explained by better cost absorption and product mix, pricing initiatives and synergies with Handicare. Revenue generated from the Adapted Vehicle segment was $11.4 million, a decrease of $0.1 million or 0.8% when compared to Q1 2022. The slight decrease in revenue was mainly related to a negative foreign exchange impact of 4.5%, which was partially offset by positive organic growth of 3.7%. Adjusted EBITDA and adjusted EBITDA margin, both before head office costs, finished at $0.6 million and 5.4%, respectively, compared to $0.6 million and 4.9% for Q1 2022. For the quarter, net finance costs were $7 million compared to $1.4 million in Q1 2022. Interest on long-term debt increased by $3 million when compared to Q1 2022 due to higher market interest rates. Net finance costs were also impacted by a net foreign currency loss of -- excuse me, $1.3 million compared to a net gain of $0.7 million in 2022, most of which was unrealized in nature. Also, the corporation incurred a gain on the ineffective portion of changes in fair value of net investment hedges of $0.8 million in 2022, which was not repeated in Q1 2023. Net earnings were $6 million or $0.09 per diluted share for the quarter compared to $5.3 million or $0.08 per diluted share -- diluted share, excuse me, in Q1 2022. Adjusted net earnings was $8.4 million or $0.13 per diluted share compared to $6.8 million or $0.10 per diluted share in Q1 2022. This reflects an increase of 24% or $0.03 on a diluted share basis. Turning now to capital resources and liquidity. Savaria generated cash flows from operating activities of $16 million for the quarter compared to $13 million in Q1 2022. The increase is mainly due to the higher profit generated by the corporation in the quarter, partially offset by higher income taxes paid versus Q1 last year. In the quarter, the company made a net investment of $2.1 million in working capital versus $2.7 million in Q1 2022. Cash generated from investing activities was $7.7 million for Q1 2023 compared to cash used of $4.8 million in Q1 2022. In 2023, net cash from the Norway divestment totaled $12.4 million, while the corporation disbursed $1.4 million for the acquisition of Ultron in 2022. Conversely, disbursements of $4.5 million for fixed and intangible assets were made in Q1 2023 compared to $3.6 million in Q1 2022. Cash used in financing activities was $6.3 million for the quarter compared to $27.2 million in 2022. Q1 2023, the revolver balance increased by $8.5 million, which we can largely see reflected in the quarter ending cash balance. As of March 31, 2023, Savaria had a net debt position of $358.9 million and was in compliance with all of its covenants. On a trailing 12-month adjusted EBITDA basis, Savaria's net debt to adjusted EBITDA ratio was approximately 2.8x. This represents approximately a 0.24 decrease versus Q4 2022. And this reduction helps us to achieve our 2023 reduction leverage target of 0.5x. Savaria has funds available of approximately $135 million to support working capital investments and growth opportunities. Looking forward, for 2023, Savaria expects to generate revenue, which will be approximately 8% to 10% higher than 2022 when normalizing for the impact of the Norwegian auto division divestments with adjusted EBITDA margins of approximately 16%. In addition, as previously noted, for 2023, we are targeting a reduction in our leverage ratio of 0.5x. And this outlook is based primarily on continued strong organic growth coming from the Accessibility in Patient Care segments, supported by high backlog levels, cross-selling synergies and strong demand as well as continued successful integration of Handicare and progress towards achieving the next strategic phase of synergies in line with management's plan. And with that, this completes my prepared remarks, and I'll turn the call over to you, Razia, to open it up for questions, please.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] We're now going to proceed with our first question, and the questions come from the line of Derek Lessard from TD Securities.
Derek Lessard
analystCongratulations on a really good quarter. Maybe I just wanted to, Nick, to start with you and really dig down into that 20% Patient Care margin performance and some of the drivers behind that? And how you guys are thinking about the sustainability of that margin? And I guess, how does that all tie into your 16% consolidated margin guidance for the year?
Charles Rimbert
executiveDerek, again, as I mentioned in the opening remarks, we're very happy with the results, right? I think 20% was a new level for that segment. At the same time, we do realize that it was just one quarter, right? So we want to kind of be cautious about moving forward, but it does show it's possible, right? Bringing the teams together and they've been doing a fantastic job. In terms of the margins, in particular, what we're seeing is anytime you get above $40 million in the quarter in terms of sales and then especially when you get about $45 million in sales, then that fixed cost absorption really kicks in. So there's a lot of leverage in that business as a sales increase. So that's probably one of the biggest contributing factors there to the margin that you saw there in the first quarter. The second, I would say, big impact is the pricing initiatives, right? Something that we talked about a lot last year. There is a little bit of a delay sometimes in terms of when those kick in. And so what you're seeing here in Q1 is really kind of the full impact -- meaningful impact of those price initiatives that we have been talking about for the past several quarters. So I would say that's kind of the big drivers of the margin improvement. One, just the strong sales performance and the pricing initiatives.
Derek Lessard
analystAnd just maybe on the Handicare synergies, can you just help us understand where they're coming from, both on the revenue margin side and where you think maybe that there's even more opportunity to extract more?
Charles Rimbert
executiveThere's some big synergies that we're seeing, and this is where I think there's more to come, is going to be on the cross-selling, right? So really from the commercial perspective, the team is really coming together. The sales force integration is something that it is a key project for us. I guess as we ended last year and going into this year. So it's something that we're looking at with Canada and also in the U.S. to realigning the sales forces. So they're working efficiently, working together, and we're also bidding on the whole room. So that's something that's a little bit different than what we saw before and now is going to some of this, and we're bidding on the entirety of it, right? So whether it's the bed frame, the mattress, the sealing lift, the sling power portion of it, the case goods, so that's actually what we're quite excited about is as we're looking forward to the various tenders that are coming up and it's going to kind of recall sales over the next several quarters, if not years, is that we're really one of the few one-stop shop player similar to what we say in Accessibility being the one-stop shop for our dealers, it's a similar concept playing out there within Patient Care and that we're one of the few players that can provide the entire room. So that's, I would say, one of the biggest synergies that you're seeing within, I guess, between Span and Handicare. And it's something that we're just starting to step into them. So it's something to look forward to over the next several quarters, over the years. So that's what I would say is one of the biggest synergies that we're seeing is on the commercial side.
Derek Lessard
analystAnd maybe a few for some housekeeping for me for Steve. On the working capital, just wondering how you're thinking about it for the rest of 2023, I guess, given the inflationary pressure in Europe, and are you expecting those inventories to grow as you cycle through the higher cost and mix some other, I guess, inventory plans as you expand the Mexican plant.
Stephen Reitknecht
executiveYes. Derek, good to talk to you. It's -- we're actually not expecting to see inventory climb for the rest of the year. In the quarter, we had a net investment in working capital in working capital, about $2.7 million. To be frank, I'm a little bit disappointed in that. I was hoping to see a reduction versus Q4. We are planning on seeing a reduction. So for the rest of the year, regardless of Mexico and everything happening in Europe, we are expecting to see working capital levels remain tight. We're not expecting any investment to answer your question.
Derek Lessard
analystAnd then maybe one final one for me before I review the fund depreciation. The -- there was an increase of about $1 million on the amortization of intangibles. How should we be thinking about that?
Stephen Reitknecht
executiveSure. And it can be a little bit lumpy. I mean, obviously, we did see a large jump up in the intangible amortization for the Handicare deal. But also a big part of intangible amortization as a lot of the R&D spending that we have, which can be lumpy. So we saw the increase in Q1 of about, as you said, $1 million from Q4. But if we look at Q3 last year or Q2 last year, it's -- the increase is much less. So I think if you want to think about that going forward, I would say there's going to be some up and downs just with regards to timing of R&D project amortization, but nothing to imply a higher run rate, Derek.
Operator
operatorWe are now going to proceed with our next question, and the questions come from the line of Michael Glen from Raymond James.
Michael Glen
analystOkay. So -- just circling into the Accessibility segment and you're talking about within patient care, you're talking about the benefits that you're starting to see from those pricing initiatives? And I know that there's some pricing initiatives you've taken in accessibility too. Like when do you think we'll start to see those start to roll through in the margin? And what type of -- should we think -- how should we think about the margin benefit as those pricing initiatives start to work through the backlog?
Stephen Reitknecht
executiveThank you. So basically, for certain high backlog goes a bit about the price we set the price increase that we do. So we will expect from the second quarter to see a bit of better margins in terms of excess it. But yes, we are very lucky that our backlog has given us the approach to have a good first quarter. And I think we have been able also to fill some of the acquisition that we added about labor, in factory or installation that has helped us to generate some more output. So that's about the answer for this question.
Michael Glen
analystNow for -- so for accessibility, would you -- do you think that 1Q would represent then the low point for the year and will work better from this point forward?
Stephen Reitknecht
executiveGood question. Thanks for that, Michael. I mean, we do have price increases coming into effect -- the 2023 price increases that came into effect this year haven't quite worked their way through the backlog yet as far as Q1 is concerned. So we will see the impact coming through the remainder of the year. What we're seeing right now in some of that organic growth is the price increase versus last year. So a similar timing last year's price increase came into effect at the beginning of the year, takes a quarter to work its way through. So we started to see that in Q2, but we're still seeing that now versus Q1 2022. With regards to the remainder of the year, when we look at our price increases and how much we put into effect, we obviously are trying to improve margins, but we also need to keep in mind cost increases that we're seeing across our business. So it's one to improve margins, but also to make sure that we level off or negate any negative impacts from vendor cost increases or other cost increases across the business. So yes, our plan is that the margins will keep increasing from here, but we have to keep in mind that there are cost increases happening, ongoing throughout the business throughout the remaining quarters of the year as well.
Michael Glen
analystAnd then just in terms of -- I know you guys have spoken in the past about targeting becoming a top 3 player in North America in that stairlift business. Are you able to provide an indication or translate that into what that would mean from a revenue perspective for your top line?
Stephen Reitknecht
executiveI think right now, we have delivered some guidance of 8% to 10% of organic growth. And if we look at the size of business that we are right now, I will consider that we are in the top 3 difficulty worldwide in terms of manufacturer of other different products. We are the only company in the world that can offer a stair lift, a porch lift, an inclined lift, a normal home lift and then also some Patient Care products. So I think we are quiet the best companies of our product offering to grow size also.
Charles Rimbert
executiveMaybe Michael there, you think about stair lift in North America, in particular, I think there is more room to grow. So we think about that 18%, you might think that maybe there will be outsized growth within stair lift in North America because there's a lot more of a runway there for us. So that's maybe how to frame that.
Michael Glen
analystAnd one additional one. Any guidance on the interest expense for the year where that would come in?
Stephen Reitknecht
executiveA lot of our debt is variable rate right now. So I mean it would be nice to know exactly where the interest rate is going to be in the next couple of quarters. But for forecasting purposes, I would expect that for Q2, Q3 and Q4, that we're going to see similar interest expense in line with Q1.
Operator
operatorWe are going to proceed with our next question. The questions come from the line of Nick Agostino from Laurentian Bank Securities.
Nick Agostino
analystSo I guess my first question is just a comment that I saw in your press release where you guys talked about seeing growth beyond 2025. Can you just maybe give some color as to why that comment was added?
Sébastien Bourassa
executiveI think Nick, first. I think we are just trying to reiterate that the $1 billion plan is our mission on this way. I think in any way in the company know that we're making steps or investments towards that. So I think Marcel just want to reiterate that again, we are always focusing on that trying to improve, if something isn't working per the plan, we [ function it ]. And yes, 2025 is coming soon, but we did some investments in [indiscernible]. We're thinking that it will be good for the next 5 to 10 years. I think it's just a general comment to reiterate that in a nice industry and we are thinking about the future and then just on the short term.
Nick Agostino
analystOkay. So we shouldn't read too much into that comment?
Sébastien Bourassa
executiveYes. It's more general comments.
Nick Agostino
analystAnd then my other question for Nick, first, just given the fact that you put 20% up on the patient care margin in the quarter. I recognize it's not necessarily going to be a sticky number. But can you just remind us what you're looking for patient care margins for the full year? And does this particular number in Q1 maybe push your thoughts a little bit higher for the full year?
Charles Rimbert
executiveI think we're a little bit early to push our thoughts for the full year. So I don't want to stray too much from what we've talked about in terms of guidance. We talked about 16% margins across the business. I don't think we give guidance by segment. So we'll kind of stick to that. I mean I think patient care delivered a very good Q1. So very happy, right? I mean it's better to be above than symbol, right? So we're not doing ourselves out as a whole as we go into the year. But I wouldn't want to read too much into it and think that it sets the bar for the rest of the quarter, I think we want to be cautious about that. And maybe after another quarter or 2 of good performance, maybe that will be more indicative of the trend. Right now, we're just very happy with the performance. And -- but again, we're sticking to our guidance, if you will, for the remainder of the year. We're not looking to change that just yet.
Nick Agostino
analystAnd just on that same question, maybe Steve, you can weigh in on this. But obviously, Q1 off to a strong start. So congrats on that. And we know that it's seasonally the weakest quarter. Just given where Q1 has landed, given what you're seeing as of May, can you maybe -- should we maybe -- when you look at the full year guidance of 8% to 10%, are you guys more comfortable towards the higher end of that range, just given the quarter and where we are as of May?
Stephen Reitknecht
executiveYes. Thanks for the question. With regards to full year guidance, I mean, we're still staying at 8% to 10% in growth and EBITDA margins. I mean, yes, Q1 was a great quarter, but we're just trying not to get to much to ourselves for the full year. We still have 3 quarters to go. It was a strong start, which we're happy about and really proud of the teams for delivering. But -- but again, we're taking 1 quarter at a time. So for now, we're staying put.
Operator
operatorWe are now going to take our next question. And the questions come from the line of Zachary Evershed from National Bank Financial.
Zachary Evershed
analystYou've stated -- I'm going to try not to beat a dead horse here, but it is what it is. You stated previously that a big component of Patient Care at Handicare is project-based. So with the material profitability improvement keying off fixed cost absorption, should we really be worrying about that falling off sharply in the coming quarters?
Sébastien Bourassa
executiveHello, Zach. No, I don't think -- we're not worried about falling off a cliff in terms of margins. We feel very good about the performance. And as I mentioned, when you get above that $40 million, $45 million, you really see that there's a leverage in that business. There's still a lot that we're working on in terms of tenders that we're looking at other projects that we'll look to deliver throughout the remainder of the year. So no, I don't think there's an expectation that it's going to fall off the cliff in terms of margins. So no, I wouldn't model that in. I think we're very confident about -- when we started the year, as we exited 2022, we did mention that we felt that we got to a bot level within patient care. And so we're seeing that new level. And it might fluctuate a little bit, but no, I wouldn't anticipate dropping back to that 10% margin that you saw historically. I think that business has changed dramatically over the past couple of years. And no, we're very confident going forward. So we're not anticipating getting sort of huge drop off in margin there.
Charles Rimbert
executiveAnd just to add on that, maybe, Nick, no, Zach, thing is always [indiscernible] because they do well work on something, also just that there are 2 factory also [indiscernible] or they have good layout, they have a booster production of [indiscernible]. So all this it has given the right support also for the sales to be able to save and to do some good cross selling. So I think there's a lot of effort that has been done in the background by the team that should be positive for the next few years, right?
Zachary Evershed
analystThat's helpful. And then touching on the timing of accessibility price hikes again. With annual price increases, do you expect Q2 margins to represent a high watermark this year if cost inflation continues?
Stephen Reitknecht
executiveGood question, Zach. Yes, it's going to be -- it's likely going to be similar timing to what we saw last year with regards to price increases coming into effect. We're obviously managing vendor cost increases at the same time. So I mean, in theory, to your point, yes, it makes sense that Q2 should be higher margins than what we're seeing in Q1.
Zachary Evershed
analystAnd given what you're seeing so far in terms of vendor cost increases versus what you've announced to your dealers, how do you feel about the comparison with the 19.1% last year in Q2?
Stephen Reitknecht
executiveSo we are still seeing vendor cost increases across the business. We're not seeing it to the impact that we saw last year, but it's still something that we are seeing across the business, both in Europe and in North America. -- just not -- again, as I said, not as strong as what we saw last year. So we'll see how Q2 pans out. But that's about the level of guidance that we'll provide.
Zachary Evershed
analystAnd just one last one, broader. With the 2023 budget, including a multi-generation home renovation tax credit, are you targeting any incremental demand there?
Stephen Reitknecht
executiveYes, I'm assuming you're talking about Canada specifically, I mean -- so tax credits do come and go with accessibility, some of our -- with accessibility projects, specifically on our legacy products. These are projects that take quite a bit of time to from initial specking of the job to actual sales. So we may see some uplift from tax credits, such as this or tax policy changes that we might see in the future as well. But overall, we don't see that having a massive impact on our business, no.
Operator
operatorWe are now going to proceed with our next question. And the questions come from the line of Frederic Tremblay from Desjardins Capital Markets.
Frederic Tremblay
analystNick, on the patient care tenders, which you mentioned a few times. Just wondering if you could provide some background on how your, I guess, current pipeline of opportunities compare in size versus what you've seen historically? And assuming that the pipeline is now larger than previously, would you attribute that to patient cares stronger focus on being a one-stop shop? Or is it market growth driven or both? So just any thoughts on that would be helpful.
Charles Rimbert
executiveHello, Fred, it seems like [indiscernible]. So on the patient care side, the tender activity that we're seeing, a lot of it is new build activity. So that's been a big driver of that business. We're seeing -- especially if you think about here in Canada, there's a lack of beds. I think talked about in past calls or conferences that we've been a part of. So no, there's definitely a lot of newbuild activity that's out there. And that's driving a lot of that business. We've been successful bidding on that business. And the fact that now that we have the, I guess, the Span team and the Handicare team together, we're able to bid on the entirety of project and some people are looking for one supplier where possible as long as the guy can meet the various requirements of the bids. So we are seeing a combination of strong just tendering out there. And at the same time, our success rate has been very good. So you combine that together, and that's why we feel quite optimistic about that business. And in the U.S. as well, we are seeing some new build activity. I think the VA is probably a good segment there for us. At the same time, we've had some -- as I mentioned in the opening comments, some strategic partners of ours and you increased their spend. So that also is a boom for that business. So I would say, overall, we're confident about where we are, where the backlog is still quite healthy. So overall, things are quite positive that within Patient Care.
Frederic Tremblay
analystMoving to accessibility and stair lifts, more specifically, I was just wondering if you had any comments on the progression of your business in Stair lifts in North America? And maybe an update on intentions to add production of a new Stair lift model from Handicare in Brampton?
Stephen Reitknecht
executiveYes. So basically, we have a sales team, working in North America between the Handicare and Savaria, they have merged together. Now all our [indiscernible]. I think our dealers are very happy that we're able to offer the Handicare product manufacturer in North America to have better lead-time. So right now, the single to the free curve is already over a year and it is in production. Right now, a lead time is better than ever. It's like 8 days. So that's the very point to generate some sales. And the second model [indiscernible], and this is something that we have started to install a machine in Toronto. And by the end of the second quarter, we should start to see some output. So that means that by the end of the second quarter, both [indiscernible] Handicare will be manufactured in Toronto. So that would be a good benefit to help us to generate some additional sales. So quite happy with the direction we're going in that.
Frederic Tremblay
analystAnd last one for me, maybe for Steve, on head office costs. Just for modeling purposes, I noticed that the $2.6 million in the quarter there included some more one-off professional fees. What would be your sort of normalized and office costs if we exclude one-off roughly moving forward?
Stephen Reitknecht
executiveYes. So to answer the question, it's about $0.5 million that went through in the quarter, there was one-off professional fees that we won't be seeing on an ongoing basis.
Operator
operatorWe are now going to move to our next question. And the questions come from the line of Julian Hung from Stifel.
Julian Hung
analystThis is Julian subbing in for Justin this morning. My first question is regarding the backlog. So with backlog increasing, how does your backlog compare to peers? And are you still remaining ahead of the curve in terms of delivery times?
Stephen Reitknecht
executiveI think peers, I think we are in the Accessibility we're company public. So it's a bit hard to measure with the other guys. But again, we are very lucky to have this backlog. And then we are working hard. It's been by miracle. I think sayings working hard. The business is very good in North America, better in the medical vertical platform. So that's looking in the right direction for the year. Does that answer your question?
Julian Hung
analystYes, answered it, pretty helpful. My second question is with global tensions on the rise, has there -- have you seen any impact on operations in China? And does it shift the business overall strategy moving forward?
Sébastien Bourassa
executiveVery good question. So basically I was in China 3 weeks ago, okay. And I had a chance to visit our team [indiscernible]. I didn't have the chance to visit the second factory in [indiscernible]. But I would say we're [indiscernible] have a very good team in China, is the same people for the last 5 years and even not very nice, but I have asked them to come work on a Sunday. And all people came, all the 120 people. So we have a very good team dedicated. But yes, we have opened a new factory last year in Mexico to be able to balance over time of supply chain to make sure we can develop some additional capacity for North America. So right now, I think we are quite active. We have 17 factories across the world. We're quite diversified. So I think it's been [indiscernible].
Julian Hung
analystAnd just one last question for me. So I see the net debt to EBITDA has been going down over the last couple of quarters. Do you have maybe a medium target for where you want the number to go? And what's your comfort level for a potential acquisition?
Stephen Reitknecht
executiveSo answering this question, I mean, we're comfortable. Yes, we have been seeing a decrease. I mean we're happy with the Q1 decrease. We need to keep in mind that part of that came from the Norway cash infused from the Norway divestment, but still happy with the decrease, and we will deliver at least half a turn this year as well. So that will allow us to finish the year at about 2.5x. I mean, we're comfortable in that range, 2x to 2.5x for sure. With regards to your question around at what levels will we start looking at other acquisitions? I think that well, definitely tuck-in acquisitions are still -- can be still on the go right now. If something comes up, that's of the right size and it makes sense for us to execute. We will look at it now, and we're not necessarily waiting for a certain net debt level. But at the same time, to echo previous comments that we've made on previous calls, have sound a little bit like a broken record here, but we are confident in the opportunity that the Handicare synergies and the continued integration with Handicare and the legacy Savaria business will provide to us. So we're not eager to bite off any large new -- any large new acquisitions at this time, and we think there's plenty of runway still in front of us.
Operator
operatorWe have no further questions at this time. I would like now to hand back the call for closing remarks.
Sébastien Bourassa
executiveWell, Razia, thank you very much. And again, we thank all our analysts that follow-up Savaria. You are very important for the company. We are happy with the first quarter. So I guess we will go back to work. So thank you very much. And we'll see you in August for the result of the Q2. Thank you.
Operator
operatorLadies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect your lines.
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