SBM Offshore N.V. (SBMO) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

November 14, 2024

Euronext Amsterdam NL Energy Energy Equipment and Services trading_statement 27 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for holding, and welcome to the SBM Offshore Third Quarter 2024 Trading Update Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] I would like to hand over the conference to Mr. Charles Alby, Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Charles Alby

executive
#2

Thank you, Sandra, and thank you all for joining us today. This call is being recorded and will be available for replay on the company's website. Today's prepared remarks will be delivered by our CEO, Oivind Tangen, followed by a Q&A session. Before we begin, I would like to point out the disclaimer at the bottom of our press release and remind participants that some of our comments today may include forward-looking statements reflecting SBM Offshore's view of future events. These matters involve risks and uncertainties that could cause our results to materially differ from our forward-looking statements. The risks are included in detail in SBM Offshore's 2023 annual report, which can be found on the company's website. Once again, we will welcome your questions after the conclusion of the prepared remarks. I will now turn the call over to Oivind.

Oivind Tangen

executive
#3

Good morning, and thank you for taking the time to join the SBM Offshore Third Quarter 2024 Trading Update Call. I am Oivind Tangen, CEO of SBM Offshore, and I'm joined today by our CFO, Douglas Wood. SBM Offshore has delivered strong results for the year-to-date period up to the third quarter. As a result of which, we have increased our EBITDA guidance for the year from around USD 1.3 billion to around USD 1.9 billion. The increase in guidance is driven by the completion of the sale of FPSO Prosperity to ExxonMobil Guyana on the 7th of November and the expected sale of FPSO Liza Destiny towards the end of the year. We will continue to operate these 2 units under the operations and maintenance enabling agreement signed last year with ExxonMobil Guyana, demonstrating the success of this innovative partnership as shown by the outstanding performance of the vessels in Guyana. Other important milestones achieved during the last period include the award by TotalEnergies of the FPSO contract for the GranMorgu projects in Suriname, which demonstrates the value of our life cycle offering and the advantaged positioning this can give us in the market. The vessel with an expected production capacity up to 220,000 barrels of oil per day will be delivered in partnership with Technip Energies and will utilize an all-electric drive to help optimize the emission intensity of the FPSO in line with our emission zero goal of delivering more carbon-efficient units. And we have completed the sale of 13.5% in FPSO Sepetiba to China Merchants Financial Leasing. On the execution side, the 4 projects we have under construction are progressing well. To give a short update, FPSO Almirante Tamandaré has safely arrived in Brazil in October, and our project teams are working on the final commissioning activities, preparing for first oil in early 2025. Once in full production, this unit will be the largest producing FPSO in Brazil and is also the first in Brazil with a Sustainability-1 Notation. This certificate recognizes the company's effort in minimizing environmental impacts over the life cycle of the FPSO from the design through construction and operations. The other 2 units will be delivered in 2025. The other 2 units to be delivered in 2025, FPSO Alexandre de Gusmão and FPSO ONE GUYANA are progressing on integration and commissioning activities as planned. As for FPSO Jaguar, the topsides’ fabrication has started in Singapore and the Fast4Ward MPF hulls delivery is expected in the last quarter of 2024. First oil is expected in 2027. On Fast4Ward MPF hulls, the total number ordered to date under the company's Fast4Ward program stands at 9, with 3 Fast4Ward based vessels now in operation, 5 hulls allocated to projects in construction, of which the last one is assigned to the GranMorgu project in Suriname. And we ordered the ninth hull earlier this year to support our tendering activities. We are optimistic about future market developments. And despite the global yard capacity constraints, we have the optionality and line of sight on a series of further Fast4Ward hulls, which position us favorably in the coming years to meet future demand. For the Lease and Operate activities, the fleet uptime stood at 95% at the end of third quarter 2024. Uptime is a bit lower than normal due to temporary shutdowns on 2 units, which have both resumed operations successfully, and we expect to be back in line with historical performance by year-end. Safety and care for our colleagues remain the company's top priorities. Year-to-date, the total recordable injury frequency was at 0.10, below our full year target of a maximum of 0.12. Now moving on to the financials. Year-to-date, the company's directional revenue stood at USD 2.838 billion. This is a 28% increase compared with the same period in 2023 and is driven by an improvement in both the Lease and Operate and the Turnkey segments. Under Lease and Operate, which stood at USD 1.01 billion (sic) [ USD 1.801 billion ] in the third quarter of 2024, the 28% increase mainly reflects the contribution of FPSOs Prosperity and Sepetiba joining the fleet in Q4 2023 and Q1 2024, respectively, a rise in reimbursable activities as well as the improved contribution from the fleet in Angola following the Sonangol transaction. This was partly offset by the lower revenue generated from FPSO Liza Unity following the sale of the unit and for which we now only see a contribution under the operations and maintenance enabling agreement. Directional turnkey revenue also improved to USD 1.036 billion in the third quarter of 2024 from USD 835 million in the same period last year, driven by the FPSO Jaguar award and increased brownfield activities, partly offset by a comparatively lower contribution from the construction portfolio as projects approach completion. Our net debt position stood at USD 7.3 billion at the end of September 2024 compared to USD 6.7 billion at the year-end 2023, reflecting the investments in growth. Most of the debt is related to our projects in operation and the funding of the 4 FPSOs under construction. There is no refinancing risk related to this debt and all project debt becomes nonrecourse in the operating phase. Additionally, the company uses interest rate swaps to substantively hedge interest rate risk. Finally, regarding cash return to shareholders. The EUR 130 million share buyback program is progressing well and was 57% completed on November 13, 2024. This level of cash return would see us distribute a minimum of USD 1.4 billion over the 5 years to come. Based on our existing backlog and the strong market outlook, which should allow us to add additional projects like the latest award for the GranMorgu field development, we fully expect to grow our returns beyond this. To conclude, the company is delivering on its strategy of advancing our core and pioneering more as evidenced by our strong third quarter results by securing new material projects like TotalEnergies contract award for an FPSO as part of the GranMorgu field development project in Suriname, progress on FPSOs under construction according to plan, the successful sale of FPSO Prosperity and the expected sale of FPSO Liza Destiny to ExxonMobil Guyana before year-end 2024, ahead of the end of the maximum lease terms and the increased guidance of directional revenue to above USD 6 billion and directional EBITDA to around USD 1.9 billion. This concludes today's call. Thank you for listening. Operator, we can now open the call for questions.

Operator

operator
#4

We will now take the first question from the line of Luuk Van Beek from Degroof Petercam.

Luuk Van Beek

analyst
#5

I have 2 questions. First of all, on the increase in your guidance, if I compare that to my estimate of the contribution of the 2 FPSOs that you sell, it's a bit more. And you also mentioned in the press release that it is mainly driven by the sale. Can you confirm that there's also an element of better underlying performance in the company that's driving the increase in revenues? And my second question is on the pipeline. Obviously, there are quite some projects that are nearing completion. You have already won 2 new projects. Can you comment on the pipeline that will keep up activity levels in the coming years?

Oivind Tangen

executive
#6

All right. Thank you, Luuk. So let me do the pipeline, and I'll let Douglas talk to the increase in guidance. So I think we've been in every quarter update given our view on the outlook. And I think we -- with our value proposition of our Fast4Ward type FPSOs, we see a strong pipeline and emerging markets like Namibia, we are very pleased, of course, with the award in Suriname and the entry with another top-tier IOC in our client portfolio. We see Brazil being very active. I think you read the same articles as us. So we're looking forward to see how the changes -- announced changes in contract structure in Brazil could also open up for more prospects. So -- and of course, Guyana is still a very lively place. So we see good prospect pipeline in the coming 3 to 5 years for our Fast4Ward value proposition.

Douglas Wood

executive
#7

Okay. Good morning, Luuk. So on the guidance, what's driving the increase in the revenue guidance, there's 3 components. So obviously, the biggest one, as we said, by far is the purchase of the 2 vessels in Guyana by Exxon. Then certainly to reflect the announcement of the GranMorgu project that we just announced today. So that's included, plus there's an element from the completion of the sale of Sepetiba to China Merchant Financial Leasing. I would say one thing to bear in mind is that on GranMorgu, we haven't reached the POC to book margin yet. So that's purely a revenue impact from that. So what's driving really the big driver and more of a driver when it comes to the EBITDA guidance is the purchase by Exxon of the 2 units.

Luuk Van Beek

analyst
#8

And can you comment on the underlying performance?

Douglas Wood

executive
#9

It's broadly in line with what we said last time.

Operator

operator
#10

We will now take the next question from the line of Quirijn Mulder from ING.

Quirijn Mulder

analyst
#11

With regard to your utilization rate of 95%, I have only one question is that's for 2 units, had any impact on your income because it was probably planned, and I suspect it was Guyana, but maybe you can elaborate on that.

Douglas Wood

executive
#12

So it wasn't planned maintenance. So there was an impact. But overall, obviously, not a very material one.

Quirijn Mulder

analyst
#13

Okay. And that's probably the smaller units then?

Douglas Wood

executive
#14

They are -- yes, some of the more mature units.

Operator

operator
#15

We will now take the next question from the line of Jeremy Kincaid, calling for Van Lanschot Kempen.

Jeremy Kincaid

analyst
#16

Congratulations on the deal. First question, just following up on the utilization and the uptime. So is that the reason why your guidance for revenue on the Lease and Operate business was reduced -- or does that also reflect the fact that some vessels obviously moving out of Lease and Operate being sold? If you could quantify those 2 movements, that would be very helpful. And then the next question for me is just on the comment you made around growing shareholder distributions over the next 5 years. I was just interested in your thoughts around how you think about a share buyback against the fact that your share price has performed very strongly recently? And do you have a view as to whether or not you'd front-end load more share buybacks or if you'd potentially wait for a future date depending on the share price? And then just finally, could you provide some commentary on how the accounting of the sale of these 2 vessels will work, in particular, what the gain on sale will be and any tax implications?

Oivind Tangen

executive
#17

I'll let Douglas address your 3 points, Jeremy. Thank you for...

Douglas Wood

executive
#18

So the first one on the Lease and Operate revenue, that is really the big driver there is, as you correctly highlighted, is the fact that Prosperity and Destiny will be leaving the fleet. So there's obviously an impact because we won't get the charter there. The second one on the returns. So we have guided that we would expect to focus on the buyback when it comes to increasing returns. That remains, I would say, the case given -- despite the fact that the share price has increased. Obviously, if you look at some of the analysis that we present around the value of the backlog, that analysis suggests that there is more potential just from the backlog alone, and that's before you include things like growth projects like the one that we've announced today in Suriname. And then can you just repeat your last question again for me?

Jeremy Kincaid

analyst
#19

I was just hoping for a bit of clarity on the accounting of the sale of the 2 FPSOs, in particular, gain on sale and in tax.

Douglas Wood

executive
#20

Yes. So they'll be similar to Unity -- and -- but I don't have a sort of specific comment on the exact numbers, but similar treatment to how it worked on Unity.

Operator

operator
#21

We will now take the next question from the line of Mick Pickup from Barclays.

Mick Pickup

analyst
#22

Sorry if I missed it, I got on a couple of minutes late. Can you just talk about Suriname, please? Obviously, you're going in this with a partner on the construction side in Technip Energies. So what are they bringing to it? Is that modules and access to delivery of those modules? And then secondly, your clients on that project were pretty open earlier this year in saying they just went to the same contractors and asked for copy paste. So can you tell me how much of this is copy paste versus Guyana, obviously, it's electrified and somewhat different. But how was the conversation in signing Suriname relative to what you could bring and they had to take off you?

Oivind Tangen

executive
#23

Mick, good morning. So thank you for your question. So it's a partnership with Technip Energies. They obviously were in that prospect for a long time as the GranMorgu has been a development journey that's been in the making for some while. So we've gone in a partnership that is roughly 50-50 between the 2 companies. And let's call it, our -- the Technip scope is more topside oriented and is ours is a traditional value proposition on the MPF and the integration. So that's roughly where that scope split sits. And as to what Total, what they communicate it's not -- there's no technical similarity as such with Guyana, I think what they comment on maybe principles of development and setting pace, which plays, of course, to the path forward value proposition. And that is that. But for the choices in specification versus emission optimization, that's not -- there's no correlation between that, and that's our Total's philosophy that we adopt in our design. Of course, we always look for deploying technology that we've developed to optimize emission intensity that we have worked on through our emission zero program. So it's -- we like the decision of an all-electric FPSO.

Mick Pickup

analyst
#24

Okay. And who's handling the integration of the topsides on that? Is that you handling that? Obviously, that's a critical phase of -- so you're having the integration technique providing modules and you're doing the whole.

Oivind Tangen

executive
#25

This is a partnership that follows an execution model very much aligned with all our Fast4Ward projects.

Operator

operator
#26

We will now take the next question from the line of Daniel Thomson from BNP Paribas.

Daniel Thomson

analyst
#27

I had 2, please. The first one on performance incentives. I was just wondering, I mean, we've seen some news reports that Exxon is looking to raise the production on some of the Guyana units further above nameplate capacity. Just kind of wondering, does this trigger performance incentives for SBM and relative to the base margin under your O&M agreement there, how significant are these incentives? And then secondly, just on Guyana and the pace of awards there, are you sort of roughly planning for one award to the market in that country every year? Or do you see sort of maybe 2 awards in future given we have competing basins now in Namibia and Suriname. Just wondering what your expectations are there.

Oivind Tangen

executive
#28

All right. So the operating agreements has a variety of performance incentives. And the way we work is in an integrated organization with Exxon, which allows us to optimize the production throughput of the units, which generates improved performance, and we don't comment on the incentives per se, but it's expected that we deliver optimized performance of the units in the underlying contract and it doesn't trigger -- whatever production level is within the operating envelope of the unit and it's captured by existing contracts. It doesn't have any other compensation mechanisms outside of that. So we average -- when we do expectations on returns, they are on that expected performance. What it does do on the side note is excellence in performance always driving good positioning for potential future work. So that's an upside. And to the award pace in Guyana, that is strictly very much outside of our limit. And I think Exxon Guyana and Exxon Corporate will comment on their ambitions there together with their partners. So I have no further comment on that.

Operator

operator
#29

We will now take the next question from the line of Andre Mulder from Kepler Cheuvreux.

Andre Mulder

analyst
#30

A few questions. Initially, you said that the EBITDA increase of the 2 sales will be around USD 500 million. Is that indeed the case? Secondly, can you be a bit more specific on how the split works between Technip and your company on the GranMorgu project. So maybe a rough split in terms of size there. And last one, looking at the development so far in Guyana, the earlier disposals, the fact that they are ordering turnkey units. Have there been already any talks on whether ONE GUYANA will also go earlier than planned?

Douglas Wood

executive
#31

Yes. Okay. Good morning, Andre. So on EBITDA and the increase in the guidance, I would say the delta between the USD 1.3 billion and the USD 1.9 billion is mainly explained by the 2. So in other words, what I'm telling you, it ended up being more than the USD 500 million. On the JV on the GranMorgu, you can look at roughly 50-50. And then regarding earlier purchases, that's going to be down to Exxon and their partners. So we don't have any visibility. I think ONE GUYANA would be -- have to be purchased by middle of 2027 is the thinking. That's the backstop date.

Andre Mulder

analyst
#32

Okay. And a following question on Technip side. You said 50-50. Technip just said that their share will be slightly over EUR 1 billion. That sounds quite low compared to, let's say, a price of around USD 3 billion for such a unit.

Douglas Wood

executive
#33

Yes. If I'm not mistaken, Andre, they said it was above not around. So...

Operator

operator
#34

There are no further questions. I'll hand over back to Oivind Tangen for closing remarks.

Oivind Tangen

executive
#35

Thank you very much for joining the call today and for your SBM and your questions. If you have any further questions, please contact our IR department directly. Thank you very much, and have a great day.

Operator

operator
#36

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes the SBM Offshore conference call. You may now disconnect your lines. Thank you for your participation. C

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