Scholar Rock Holding Corporation (SRRK) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

May 23, 2024

NASDAQ US Health Care Biotechnology conference_presentation 37 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Ashwani Verma

analyst
#1

Good day, everybody. My name is Ash Verma. Welcome to UBS Virtual Obesity Therapeutics Day. I'm a biotech analyst at UBS. And with us, our next company for the Obesity Day is Scholar Rock. And so with us, we have Jay Backstrom, who is the CEO; and Mo Qatanani, who is the Chief Scientific Officer. Hi, guys. Can you hear me okay?

Jay Backstrom

executive
#2

Yes. Good morning.

Mo Qatanani

executive
#3

Good morning.

Ashwani Verma

analyst
#4

Excellent. So thanks for taking the time. Really exciting to hear about the story and how the environment has been on the obesity market. I saw that you announced the initiation of this Phase II EMBRAZE trial yesterday. So I know a lot of people paying attention to the space and broadly your pipeline overall. So maybe it might be helpful just to orient the audience a little bit, if you can give a little bit of a high-level overview of apitegromab and sort of the rationale for how you're targeting obesity and why it makes sense from an anti-myostatin therapy's perspective?

Jay Backstrom

executive
#5

Yes. Sure, happy to do that. So I'm Jay Backstrom, for those who are listening in, the CEO of the company. I took over as the CEO back in October of 2022, and we've really made enormous progress over the course of the time that I've been here. To start, I mean, Scholar Rock was really founded on the understanding of how to selectively target the TGF-beta superfamily of growth factors. So selectivity for us is really important because it's a very complicated biology and the historic approaches you would get off-target effects and unwanted toxicity such as bleeding. So we've been very focused on selectivity. To that end, that's where apitegromab comes in. Apitegromab is highly selective, targets what's referred to as the latent or precursor form of the growth factor. It's important to understand that the myostatin, which is what we're blocking, it has one primary function, and that's to regulate skeletal muscle. So if you block it, you release the intracellular mechanisms, you get more muscle. So it's a very clean target. You hit it, you get more muscle. So we selectively target that. And as a result, what we've seen in our early indication with apitegromab is, in spinal muscular atrophy, we've seen functional improvement in this motor neuron neuromuscular disorders. So we've got really good proof of concept and principle and clinical data to say that we can enhance muscle and improve function. So that's kind of the framework to start. If we look about the obesity field, which is you're following at everybody, you can't -- it's everywhere, all the time, right? It's just such a large market and such interest. And it's because, quite honestly, the current therapy is the GLP-1 receptor agonist and versions of that are so highly effective in losing weight. They're highly effective. But what has emerged is, within that weight loss, there's a loss of lean muscle mass. And the whole goal of managing weight loss or the treating of obesity is to improve outcomes. And so lean muscle plays such a critical role that it's an obvious place to go if you have a drug that can target myostatin that regulates muscle and can increase muscle mass, to then consider how that could be used to enhance, if you will, the profile of the current therapies who are -- we're seeing more and more the obvious loss of lean muscle mass. So that was the concept, right? We start with a selective target. We hit myostatin and only myostatin. And what our program has done is that we've taken apitegromab to the proof-of-concept study that you just described, the EMBRAZE trial. Apitegromab, to be clear, is our SMA program. So we are going to push that forward. We're going to talk more, I believe, on the call about our next generation, if you will, SRK-439, anti-myostatin for obesity. But we took advantage of that apitegromab in clinic to allow us to do a proof-of-concept study to demonstrate, and that's the trial's goal, that can we preserve lean muscle mass in the setting of standard of care, so either tirzepatide or semaglutide, so that everybody gets that, plus apitegromab, can we demonstrate that we can preserve lean muscle? That's the goal. And we do it very selectively. So we show that, then I think we have the answer that we would like, that we can run -- we're running now. We'll have data, assuming we -- it depends on the enrollment, there's a lot of interest in the trial, so it's going to probably roll quickly. But we've indicated that we'll have data about this time next year. And that's right around the time where Mo and his team will get the SRK-439 into the clinic through the IND. So it's kind of dual track. We'll run the study. We'll get insight, but it's 439 that we'll really be doubling down on as we get that into clinic for the cardiometabolic obesity space.

Ashwani Verma

analyst
#6

Great. That's, yes, excellent start. So I think, yes, maybe it might be helpful just to try to understand what are the advantages that you have with 439 compared to apitegromab. And I guess, so you're doing this trial with apitegromab right now and you can naturally transition to 439. Is there some additional steps that you might have to take to sort of justify that the profile carries from one molecule to the other, sort of like how you're thinking about that?

Jay Backstrom

executive
#7

Yes. So 2 things. I'll let Mo give the differences between apitegromab and why we were looking forward to getting SRK-439 into clinic. I would say that mechanistically, targeting myostatin very selectively in its pro form or latent form, that's the consistent theme between apitegromab and 439. So mechanistically, that's what we're really assessing, right? We'll have to do the IND-enabling work to get 439 into clinic. But Mo, do you want to just describe sort of what we're thinking about with 439 and?

Mo Qatanani

executive
#8

Yes. I mean, as Jay mentioned, mechanistically, they're more selective. All our antibodies are selective, which is really critical. We do target the latent form or the precursor. So we lock it into inactive form, so it never really sees the receptor or initiates any signaling, both of them. Now the difference with 439 is that, with 439 from the get-go, it was designed for this specific patient population, the obese patient population. And what you need there is, and what we thought, a higher affinity antibody that will give you efficacy at lower doses to enable subcutaneous dosing out of the gates, from the get-go. So the profile for 439 is higher affinity, efficacy in the relevant models at lower doses and we're seeing that with doses as low as 0.3 mg per kg, to enable subcutaneous development of the molecule. And so far, this is what we've seen with SRK-439.

Jay Backstrom

executive
#9

Yes. To be clear, apitegromab is an IV presentation. It's monthly dosing. Currently, if you look at the Versanis' Lilly program, it's an IV administration, right? And to be clear, I think that -- the Scholar Rock team has been thinking about cardiometabolic and using myostatin as a target probably since 2019, so well before I joined. But that's the reason why we were able to move so quickly into 439 and getting it towards the IND. But it's designed to be able to be subcutaneous, low volume, that would really fit sort of a population we're trying to treat here.

Ashwani Verma

analyst
#10

That's helpful. Great. Thanks for that. I guess I mean just mechanistically, like the myostatin, anti-myostatin program that are out there, I mean I cover by, even as I was talking to you about -- I mean how do you think about like what is the competitive advantage that you have, maybe, versus some of the competitors in the field, either Biohaven or Versanis, like in terms of the way that the molecule is binding, and what sort of mechanistic differentiation you're bringing to the table?

Jay Backstrom

executive
#11

Yes, I'm happy to. It's really interesting, right? If you -- we're going to actually see if we can actually project the slide, Ash. Do you think that will come through or no?

Ashwani Verma

analyst
#12

I believe so. Should work.

Jay Backstrom

executive
#13

Yes. So we're going to set one up because I think a picture paints a thousand, whatever. If you take a look at the whole signaling pathway with myostatin, it signals through -- here we go. This is a really good presentation. We use this quite a bit. So if you take a look at what the schematic is showing, is at the very bottom of the slide is the ActRIIb receptor, it's represented as ActRIIA/B. But basically that's the receptor, right? And if you kind of track up to the schematic on the left where it says apitegromab SRK-439, that is the pro and latent form of myostatin, which then, if there's proteolytic cleavage, it's open, you form the active growth factor myostatin, and then it signals through the receptor. So that's the myostatin pathway. The pathway to the far right is the activin pathway. So similar -- we're not targeting activin, but to show you that the ActRIIB receptor is the receptor for both activin as well as myostatin. But in addition, what's shown in the middle is GDF11, it's another growth factor. This is a very complicated and complex set of biology. Activin is expressed in lots of tissues. And so if you perturb activin, you are at risk for having unwanted toxicities. Where myostatin, if you block it, you get increased muscle and less fat, that's it. There are clear animals that have the genetic defect. There are double muscled animals, right? As an example. There's human mutations where there's just more evidence of muscle mass. But you don't have any unexpected or untoward effects because myostatin is that pure of what it does for the body. It regulates muscle growth. So I start off by saying Scholar Rock was founded on selectivity. That's because the lack of selectivity has plagued the field for decades. And it's the reason why not many TGF-beta targeted programs have made it to the commercial state, right? So it's been very difficult. If you go back up into this slide. So this is -- I'll give you a walk-through of kind of what's happening in the space. So the current Lilly- Versanis Program, which is bimagrumab, is targeting the receptor at the bottom. So that's a monoclonal antibody of the receptor, so it blocks that. If you click up, myostatin and Activin A, they're growth factors. There are monoclonal antibodies directed to myostatin and Activin A, right? So you can target the growth factor themselves, but these are the mature forms, but you can target that. And then if you click up one more slide on the left, that's where we're coming. We don't even let myostatin get formed. It doesn't even get activated. So we completely block it at the beginning. So that's -- those are kind of the main strategies. So ligand traps would be similar to the bottom. I call out bimagrumab because it's been really the lead and there's been a lot of talk around it. But that's its target, it's that receptor. And if you look at some of the other forms, for example, the Adnectin, which is T-alpha. T-alpha is not a monoclonal antibody, so it's not blocking the antibody specifically. It's an Adnectin -- I think the best way I could characterize it, it's a bit like a sponge, so that when myostatin is activated, it can then bind to it, so it will catch it. Whether it does or doesn't signal through the activin receptor, I can't say, but it definitely has overlap between GDF11, which is another growth factor. And there are some unwanted toxicities associated with all of these approaches. I think what's really important to keep in mind is if we think about the use in the setting of treatment of obesity, it's an extraordinary large exposure. There's so many -- we think over half of Americans will meet that definition by 2030. So you've got a very large population. And this really, as we heard from one of our experts yesterday, Dr. Ania Jastreboff on our -- we hosted an investor call, as an expert in the field, she sees this as lifelong care. This is chronic care. You're going to need to treat for a long time to get to the patient outcomes that you want. So I say all that because if you're starting to perturb the biology that's associated with these signaling pathways, you may not see it in a single healthy volunteer study. You may not even see it in a 6-month approach. But over time, these things will begin to manifest. And so what we're seeing, if you take a look at the profile that we've generated from apitegromab, which is our SMA, spinal muscular atrophy, we've got over 4 years of care for patients on that trial. We've seen none of these events on the right, none of these events, right? It's because myostatin is such a pure target and our strategy is so selective that my phrase is almost by design -- not almost by, it's by design that we're not seeing these things, because of the selection of the target and how we hit it. So it's our view of how to -- where the field is going and what the need is, benefit-risk has to be top of mind. It's all about benefit-risk. And so there's a lot of discussion around the right strategies, and that's because we're generating data. Right now, there's a lot of proof-of-concept studies going, a lot of data being generated and data will help inform us going down the road, right? But from a starting point, from the data that we've generated with spinal muscular atrophy, where we see, we are the first company to demonstrate functional improvement in any clinical study by trying to target myostatin. That was the TOPAZ data, first to do that. So we feel very good about the efficacy side of the equation. But frankly, the safety side is almost irrefutable, to be honest. I mean this is biology that happens when you perturb it. So we feel -- that's why we're excited, we're starting the EMBRAZE trial, we're really looking forward to generating those data. But importantly, really looking forward for Mo and his team to help get SRK-439 into clinic. It's starting to emerge, frankly, from our perspective, as almost a best-in-class profile. But of course, we'll need to generate data to support that. But the nonclinical data looks really, really good.

Ashwani Verma

analyst
#14

Yes. That's great. All right. So I guess, I mean, one thing that I wanted to ask like, for 439, I mean so we're seeing some animal data, I believe, that can show and preserve lean muscle mass. I guess what would be like a dose translation in humans and sort of what are your thoughts on that? Anything that you can comment on specifically on what type of dose would be -- I know you mentioned that you have like its efficacy at lower doses because of the high affinity, but just curious what your model suggests in terms of translating from animal to humans.

Mo Qatanani

executive
#15

Yes. I mean, we're building these models as we speak now. We're really encouraged by the efficacy we see in mice. As I mentioned, it's an efficacy with doses as low as 0.3 mg per kg. We've done some [indiscernible] studies as well that actually lines up with some of the findings that we see in the mice. And based on our experience with apitegromab, I mean we've done that years ago and we built these models, the profile that we're driving towards is efficacy with low doses to enable low volumes and low frequency. So the target would be once monthly or so. And so far, things have been lining up. Again, we're still building the model, but so far from the data that we've seen, it looks like SRK-439 will be hitting that target profile.

Jay Backstrom

executive
#16

We just shared yesterday for the first time, so we've -- this is now in the public domain of, again, some of the -- most team is just doing some really incredible kind of series of studies to further give us insight on what we hope to see with 439 to guide us into clinic. And again, one of the questions that really is out there is, are we going to get enough efficacy if we don't engage sort of the activin pathway? Is myostatin sufficient? And then, I just showed you why we believe that avoiding hitting other ligands in this growth factor family is good because of the safety issues. But what Mo did within our nonclinical models is -- I'll let you walk through this data.

Mo Qatanani

executive
#17

Yes. I mean we used the diet-induced obesity model, which is a standard in the field that everybody uses, including GLPs, in their approval. And we did a head-to-head study with SRK-439 or the murine equivalent of bimagrumab, in this case, in gray. And as we've seen every time, when you treat these animals with semaglutide, you do see a significant reduction in lean mass. So this graph actually is a quantitative NMR, looking at percent change in lean mass from start to finish of the study. And as you can see in purple, pretty significant reduction in lean mass when you treat them with semaglutide, as expected, that has been seen in humans as well. Now if you add SRK-439 on top of semaglutide, you see this reversal or preservation of lean mass with doses again starting at 0.3 mg per kg and then maximum at 1 mg per kg, between 1 mg per kg and 3 mg per kg, which is what we've seen in other studies as well. Now if you compare that to the anti-activin receptor antibody, that's the murine bimagrumab, we chose the dose of 20 mg per kg for that antibody, because it's the only dose that was published in a diet-induced obesity. And you can see that you only see preservation at this highest dose 20 mg per kg, but really nothing below that dose compared to our SRK-439 where almost 1 mg per kg is the equivalent of the 20 mg per kg in bimagrumab. So really selectivity is going to get us safety. And we're not losing efficacy by being selective in this case as compared to the receptor -- or antibody against the receptor. So it's more and more data to tell us that the profile of SRK-439 is the best fit for this patient population. Again, this is a chronic disease. These patients have, a lot of times, a lot of different comorbidities. So safety is going to be key, of course, while having efficacy.

Ashwani Verma

analyst
#18

Okay. That's great. I mean I guess in terms of -- we've seen like some data from Biohaven in healthy volunteers, like for SRK-439, like what's your sort of expectation on fat loss and lean mass changes? Like what would ideal good data look like that can position you competitively?

Mo Qatanani

executive
#19

I mean from a healthy volunteers perspective? I mean what we can comment on is, let's look at the challenge. What is the challenge? The challenge is not losing weight. I don't know if you heard Dr. Jastreboff yesterday, and she is the lead -- she actually ran GLP-1 studies of tirzepatide. The challenge is not about how much weight we can drive to lose, right? That has been solved. We're losing now 24%, 25% of body weight, and sometimes it's too much. The challenge is the quality of that weight, when you're losing that much, 30% to 40% of that weight loss is lean mass. That's the challenge. And it's going to be a challenge long term. So how do we fix that challenge? And this is where a safe therapy like an anti-myostatin comes in to preserve that lean mass so that, over the long term, you have a better metabolic profile. And we've seen that, at least in animal models where when we preserve -- that's in the Keystone poster we published, when you preserve lean mass with SRK-439 on top of semaglutide, you actually have additional reduction in blood glucose. So we're thinking about the healthy weight management over a long period of time, long term, with this therapy.

Jay Backstrom

executive
#20

Yes. And maybe to go back to your question, right, because we're trying to do kind of cross-program comparisons where it's not always clear exactly how things were done to generate the data. But I would say, kind of taking a step back, blocking myostatin should result in an increase in lean muscle mass. So it's the question of you'll be getting more efficacy by one strategy versus the other, but in general, there's a range that you can expect to achieve. And so that is fundamentally the principle around adding it to a GLP-1 receptor agonist, try to preserve that lean muscle. What Mo said is that it really is intriguing to us here, and the reason why we were interested in this since 2019, is Jeff Flier sits on our Board, he's a renowned expert in this space. Muscle plays such a critical role in metabolism. It just does in basal metabolic rate, glucose uptake, insulin sensitivity. And so what Mo's team is generating is data that further supports that when we enhance that muscle mass, we're getting the metabolic expectation, which means that improvement in glucose. There's crosstalk between muscle and fat. So to your question, we would expect to see some additive effects and further fat reduction because of that interplay between muscle and fat, but we'll need to see the data. And this is what I think the next year we'll generate. We'll see some of that data from our apitegromab proof-of-concept study because we've got DEXA scans as the primary endpoint. So we'll be able to take a look at that. We've also built in exploratory. We didn't select patients where we would absolutely see this effect, but we built in exploratory endpoints to look at hemoglobin A1c, for example, because we do believe -- if you think about regulatory approval, hemoglobin A1c is an accepted regulatory endpoint. So if you can show that you can hit that and improve that, that would really be a good thing. So that's our thinking. I think we'll see it. The metabolic profile should be enhanced. Preserving lean muscle should help reduce falls and fractures. There are certain subsets of patients that are going to be vulnerable to that. And frankly, we heard yesterday, which is really, really interesting, of all the programs done to date with the fabulous weight reduction that's been seen across the programs, there's not systematic collection of DEXA scans in these studies. There are sub-studies, there's subset. We're not seeing the magnitude of effect nor is there a determined effort to understand, are you really seeing signs and symptoms of muscle weakness. And what we heard from Dr. Jastreboff yesterday is, she's dealing with middle-aged men who lose weight, who now complain of losing strength. So this is going to find its way more and more in the space. We believe we have a very elegant solution to this. Obviously, there's a lot of interest in trying to target it. But I think at the end of the day, our theme yesterday was Muscle Matters, it really does. It really does. And I think it's just for lots of reasons.

Ashwani Verma

analyst
#21

So yes, I think that I definitely agree with you there. I guess like in terms of lean muscle mass and the level of benefit that we are seeing with some of the competitors, and given that, yes, where you are right now in terms of clinical development, right, like the expectations or like what good outcome looks like may change over the, let's say, next 5 years, right? So it's kind of like a moving target that you're trying to solve for -- from how I understand it. I mean, by the time that you get to the market, like what's sort of your expectation on like lean muscle gain? Like what type of benefit or level of efficacy on that would be good? I mean I think like Versanis has shown like 3.6%, if I remember that Phase II data currently. And do you think that the -- as the competitive landscape is evolving, can that bar shift up? And ultimately, like what level would you think you might have to get to?

Jay Backstrom

executive
#22

Yes. That's a really, really good question, right? I mean I think -- so if we fast forward 5 years, I'll give you my view. This is a forward-looking statement for everybody in the audience, it's just my view. We're going to see that there will be strategies to really offset the loss in lean muscle mass, whether that is a combination approach or whether that is someone who's trying to combine targeted for myostatin and/or an activin receptor plus a GLP-1. That development, I think, is going to go. The field is going in that direction. So that's where the field is going. And I think if you take a look at that, I like our position because I don't think that means we're behind. I think we're going to just be right in that wave of demonstrating how important it is. We spent a lot of time yesterday, and again, this is -- you can't influence the way FDA thinks about primary endpoints. The field can, the data can and I think that more and more is coming forward, what we heard yesterday from Dr. Jastreboff, is that 5% weight loss is like it's a 2007 idea around weight loss. We're talking about improving health outcomes. And so there's other measures and parameters that we might be able to see that demonstrate benefit. But in the today and now, we're going to generate data, and Mo is showing it repeatedly, where I think we can show that we can enhance the metabolic profile, and that's an approvable endpoint. And we can do that in combination -- so my phrase, we can enhance the profile of existing therapies. The other thing that was very, very interesting yesterday -- it's fun to put these events on because we start to think more broadly than our day-to-day, right, deliver, execute, we're starting to get a chance to really look a little more broadly. But regardless of the form of weight loss, you lose lean muscle mass. You lose it, whether it's diet, you lose it clearly with bariatric surgery. That's the longest longitudinal data, and of course, we're losing with therapy. So we need to think about this in general, if this is maintained chronic treatment. So my point, 5 years from now, I'm believing you're going to see this as an element in the treatment landscape. Whether there will be enhanced, better way to preserve the lean muscle mass remains to be seen. I think from our strategy, but we need to have data to show it, just intuitively, if we're blocking the growth factor before it even has a chance to circulate, that suggests that you should have a potential efficacy advantage that is now circulating and you're trying to catch it. It's like shutting the water off before it drips. It would seem like that would be a more elegant and potentially more effective solution. And with Mo's team and their engineering, you saw how the lowest dose we're getting effect will be very interesting for us. So I think we're kind of right there. We're entering the field, I think, at a good time. But it will evolve over time, but I'm glad we're in it. I think we have a nice solution.

Ashwani Verma

analyst
#23

Yes, that's great. So I guess just talking about like the tolerability overall, I mean the sort of the approach overall, where it's going. I mean so there's like a decent amount of like side effect profile with some of the GLP-1s. I mean do you believe the combination of myostatin inhibitor with GLP-1 would exacerbate? I mean I know you have like a more specific molecule. So just are you getting the -- any kind of like an incremental toxicity in the long run that might...

Jay Backstrom

executive
#24

No. That's the thing. That's why I was kind of pointing out, I think, from -- I always think about safety and tolerability and toxicity. Frankly, it starts initially with what you're trying to block, right? What is the implication to blocking any given target, right? Any receptor, any ligand, if you block it, what does that mean? What's the biology -- the body's response to that blocking? And we're starting with a very, very pure regulated muscle, that's it, block it, you get more muscle. So that's really important. And if you take a look, as you were describing, I think the GLP-1 receptor agonist have their own profile. Our data that we've generated from spinal muscular atrophy, we got 4 years of data. We've seen no serious events related to the drug. There is nothing that would suggest any of these effects that are more likely related to perturbing the other signaling pathways because myostatin doesn't do that. And it's really clean. It is really very clean, right? And you're going to see -- we're going to show side-by-side comparative data when we report at our Phase III trial. We have reports -- these are children that we studied in our TOPAZ trial without a comparator, but it's viral illnesses, things you would expect children to get living through seasonal allergy or seasons. But nothing like this at all. We've had no bleeding. That's plagued the field. Telangiectasia, as you know, it's been reported with one of the approved therapies, which targeting using a ligand trap. So I think from your question, and this is what really I thought about, if we had such a GLP-1 receptor agonist that we wanted to use as broadly as possible, I wouldn't want to combine it with an agent that would add to its toxic profile. I would not want to do that. And that's where I think when you look at this, the trade-off, I don't think we're trading off. We are coming in very clean on the safety side. We should have no additional liability, if you will, or toxicities added. And in fact, that's one of the things that I'm looking forward to with the EMBRAZE trial, right? I said so we started that study for those that didn't see it. It's a randomized study between either semaglutide or tirzepatide. We're agnostic to it. We think we can work on either. And then it will be a 24-week endpoint where we'll randomize to receiving apitegromab or placebo. So it's a very clean study, 24 weeks DEXA scan answers the question do we preserve lean muscle, yes or no. Very clear, right? But also we'll be able to show side-by-side safety of the tirzepatide plus apitegromab or semaglutide plus apitegromab. And from our SMA data, it suggests to me that we won't see any additional toxicities that you don't expect other than what you see for the GLP-1s. It's not clear to me what we'll see with these other strategies, except to say that I think there's more potential issues by hitting these other pathways than just hitting myostatin alone.

Ashwani Verma

analyst
#25

Yes. So while we were just talking, I think that, that was helpful, just I got another question from an investor. Basically, I guess, yes, this is sort of like getting to what you can comment on the competitor data. So I'll give it a try. So like do you believe that this -- is there any safety issues seen in the DIO mice with the bimagrumab or is this like just not seen preclinically? I guess I can sort of has a read across to your program, but just curious if you can share any thoughts on that.

Jay Backstrom

executive
#26

Well, from -- go ahead.

Mo Qatanani

executive
#27

Yes. I mean the DIO models, these are geared towards efficacy. And we haven't looked with the bimagrumab. With the bimagrumab, and this is published data, you do see the dramatic reduction in FSH and reproductive hormones preclinically as well as in the clinic. This is a clear effect of heading Activins. I mean, Activins were discovered based on their ability to enhance FSH secretion. And when you inhibit Activins, like when you're targeting the receptor, you actually reduce FSH. So you have an impact on reproductive hormones. And that's why there's a lot of restrictions in the clinical trials. With bimagrumab also in the clinic, I mean, we don't have to talk about mouse studies, if you look at the list of AEs, which comes from the nonselective targeting the receptor, they do see a high rate of GI problems like diarrhea. And if you're thinking about -- [indiscernible] on GLP-1s and their GI issues, so adding that on top, I think, is not going to be advantageous.

Ashwani Verma

analyst
#28

Okay. All right. That's great. I mean just a couple of questions to just close out here. So yes, I think I was mentioning to you, like for Biohaven and you have the sort of like the same mechanism. And the way that I think Biohaven has sort of framed it is that it's a big endeavor to take on like the obesity market for a small biotech company, like especially I think the amount of capital that this may require over the next several years. So the way that Biohaven has sort of talked about it is that they are potentially looking for partners with big pharma to advance the program before committing any significant amount of capital to work. So just curious from your perspective, like how do you think that, yes, I know the focus of Scholar Rock has been primarily on SMA, what got you excited? And do you think that this -- the intensive capital requirement that you have for getting involved in obesity, do you think that your sort of go-alone strategy is the right approach for you? Or do you think that a potential partnership at some point of time might be necessary?

Jay Backstrom

executive
#29

Yes. So we've been pretty clear right from the beginning. I mean I think given the size and scale of this market, this is definitely an area that we would benefit from a partner. No question about it. I think it's really interesting, right? So we had a very successful financing last fall, on the basis of us entering into the space and the data that Mo had generated, because this really looks like an elegant solution to what will be, I think, even a greater emerging problem the more we understand it and study it. But yesterday, we hosted an investor event, and I made it very clear about how we think about value creation as a company, right? So let's -- we have apitegromab in SMA, we have SRK-439 in cardiometabolic or obesity, right? The spinal muscular atrophy market, this is like the right entry for us to be our first commercial product. It's an established market, right? We've got identified patients. We have centers of excellence. We've engaged beautifully with the Cure SMA community. The patient advocacy group wants more therapy. It's something that's within the scale and reach of us to be our first commercial product. By contrast, SRK-439, it's a beautiful product. We can drive it to IND. We could generate proof-of-concept studies as a company our size. But along that journey, to really maximize the potential for patients and the value created for the company, I agree, a strategic partnership would be optimal for this program. And we're continuing to generate data that shines the light on why we believe this would be a partnered asset that a company would want. But yes, absolutely. But in the meantime, team is executing, right? I think we're delivering on what we said. We'll get that proof of concept done. We'll drive to IND. Those are value inflection points for the company, right? We can create that value. And along the way, as we generate interesting data, it's a beautiful ecosystem that we're in, right? You start to shine a light on a program and you tend to generate more and more interest. So we believe we have the program to generate interest in, and we'll continue to do that.

Ashwani Verma

analyst
#30

Great. Excellent. Those are all the questions that I had. So thank you -- thank you so much for taking the time. Thanks for participating in our Obesity Day. So good luck with the program and looking forward to speaking with you soon again.

Jay Backstrom

executive
#31

All right. Thank you. It was a pleasure to join this morning. So thank you very much.

Mo Qatanani

executive
#32

Thank you very much.

Ashwani Verma

analyst
#33

Yes. Jay, Mo, take care. Have a good one. Bye.

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