Shakti Pumps (India) Limited (531431) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
May 8, 2023
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Operator
operatorLadies and gentlemen, good day, and welcome to the Shakti Pumps India Limited Q4 and FY '23 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this conference is being recorded. I now hand the conference over to Mr. Rohit Anand from Ernst & Young LLP. Thank you, and over to you, Mr. Anand.
Rohit Anand
attendeeThank you, and good afternoon, everyone. Before we proceed, let me remind you that the discussion may contain forward-looking statements that may involve known or unknown risks, uncertainties and other factors. It must be viewed in conjunction with our business risks that could cause future results, performance or achievements to differ significantly from what is expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements. To take us forward through the financial results and development and to answer your question today, we have the senior management of Shakti Pumps India Limited, represented by Mr. Dinesh Patidar, Managing Director; Mr. Ramesh Patidar, Executive Director Exports; Mr. Dinesh Patel, Chief Financial Officer; and Mr. Ravi Patidar [Audio Gap] by Mr. Dinesh Patidar, followed by the Q&A session. I will now hand over the call to Mr. Patidar. Over to you, sir.
Dinesh Patidar
executiveThank you, Rohit. [Foreign Language] Over to Dinesh.
Dinesh Patel
executiveThank you, sir. Revenue from operations in Q4 FY '23 stood at INR 182.7 crores as against INR 348.6 crores in the corresponding quarter. Revenue from the export business stood at INR 68.9 crore as compared to INR 51.5 crore, registering a strong growth of 34% Y-o-Y. EBITDA for Q4 FY '23 was at INR 10.9 crore and EBITDA margin was at 6%. The company reported a PAT of INR 2.2 crores during Q4 FY '23. During the full year FY '23, we recorded a revenue of INR 967.7 crore as against INR 1,178.5 crores in FY '22. The export business continued its growth journey and surged 27% Y-o-Y to INR 234.8 crore. EBITDA for FY '23 while at INR 66.6 crore, EBITDA margin 86.9% and PAT was INR 24.1 crores. Now I request the moderator to open the floor for question-answer.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] Our first question is from the line of [ Mr. Kaushal Vora ] from Latin Manharlal Securities.
Unknown Analyst
analystSir, I wanted to know more about the KUSUM 3.0. As you said, size is 857,000 pump. So what is the time line for that?
Dinesh Patidar
executive2 years. [Foreign Language].
Unknown Analyst
analyst[Foreign Language].
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language].
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Dinesh Patidar
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Dinesh Patidar
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Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language].
Unknown Analyst
analystSo we can expect by July onwards we can see the KUSUM 3.0 starting?
Dinesh Patidar
executiveSure.
Unknown Analyst
analystOkay. [Foreign Language].
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language].
Ramesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language] Good afternoon. [Foreign Language].
Unknown Analyst
analyst[Foreign Language].
Ramesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language].
Operator
operatorOur next question is from the line of [ Mr. Vishal ] from Svan.
Unknown Analyst
analystSir, I just wanted to know the breakup customer-wise which you give every year.
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language].
Unknown Analyst
analyst[Foreign Language] Basically, customer segment-wise breakup for the year as well as for the quarter. That will be helpful, sir. [Audio Gap] [Foreign Language] Sir, how do you see now going forward [Foreign Language] you will be participating in the tender so how fast you expect this ordering process will start and when will this execution start? So can we easily assume [Foreign Language] majority of the ordering will be in the second half or second quarter [Foreign Language] road map.
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language].
Unknown Analyst
analystOkay, okay. Or sir, in terms of [Foreign Language] Is this understanding right?
Dinesh Patidar
executiveRight, right, right.
Unknown Executive
executive[Foreign Language].
Unknown Analyst
analyst[Foreign Language] you are saying, sir, Q2 FY '24?
Unknown Executive
executiveRight, right. Yes.
Unknown Analyst
analystOkay. Okay. Okay. So in terms of [Foreign Language] in Q1, our performance will be slightly better than Q4, but it will not be significantly better because [Foreign Language].
Dinesh Patidar
executivePerfectly right. Perfectly. [Foreign Language].
Operator
operatorOur next question is from the line of [ Mr. Ankit ] from JHP Securities.
Unknown Analyst
analystSo actually, I wanted to ask in KUSUM Scheme 2, the Shakti Pumps contribution in total execution is getting reduced quarter-on-quarter. So what's the reason behind that? Because in quarter 1, it was 45%. Currently, in quarter 4, it is at 24%. Any reason for that?
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language].
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analyst[Foreign Language].
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language].
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analyst[Foreign Language].
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language].
Operator
operatorOur next question is from the line of Hardik Vyas from Economic Times.
Hardik Vyas
attendee[Foreign Language] So those rates are going to be the same for all the states or both [Foreign Language].
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language].
Hardik Vyas
attendee[Foreign Language].
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language].
Hardik Vyas
attendee[Foreign Language]. We can benefit in out models accordingly [Foreign Language].
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language].
Hardik Vyas
attendee[Foreign Language].
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language].
Hardik Vyas
attendee[Foreign Language].
Dinesh Patidar
executiveIn pricing, pricing. [Foreign Language].
Hardik Vyas
attendee[Foreign Language].
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language].
Hardik Vyas
attendee[Foreign Language].
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language].
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executive[Foreign Language].
Hardik Vyas
attendee[Foreign Language].
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executive[Foreign Language].
Hardik Vyas
attendee[Foreign Language].
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executive[Foreign Language].
Hardik Vyas
attendee[Foreign Language].
Unknown Executive
executive[Foreign Language]. 30%.
Dinesh Patidar
executive30% of the export sale.
Hardik Vyas
attendee[Foreign Language].
Unknown Executive
executive[Foreign Language].
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language].
Operator
operatorOur next question is from the line of [ Mr. Nitin ] from KIFS Trade Capital Private Limited.
Unknown Analyst
analystWith reference to the current 2-year order of 8.6 like pump, what's the market share strategy which you are planning? Because some of the states may be aggressive, in some states, you might decide based on [Audio Gap] So if you can share some thoughts you're getting major market share in that.
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language].
Unknown Analyst
analyst[Foreign Language]. Can we expect something on mid double digit?
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language].
Operator
operatorOur next question is from the line of Forum Makim from Equitree Capital.
Forum Makim
analystCongratulations on being qualified for 21 states. [Foreign Language].
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language].
Forum Makim
analyst[Foreign Language].
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language].
Forum Makim
analystRight. [Foreign Language].
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language].
Forum Makim
analyst[Foreign Language].
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language].
Forum Makim
analyst[Foreign Language].
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language].
Forum Makim
analyst[Foreign Language].
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language].
Forum Makim
analystRight, right. [Foreign Language].
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language].
Forum Makim
analyst[Foreign Language].
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language].
Forum Makim
analystRight, sir. Just 2 more questions. [Foreign Language].
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language].
Forum Makim
analyst[Foreign Language].
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language].
Operator
operatorOur next question is from the line of Dipesh Sancheti from Manya Finance.
Dipesh Sancheti
analystSir, first thing, though, what is our capacity? [Foreign Language] in India as well as Uganda?
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language].
Dipesh Sancheti
analyst[Foreign Language].
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language].
Dipesh Sancheti
analyst[Foreign Language].
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language].
Dipesh Sancheti
analyst[Foreign Language] and our company generally does, had a market share of 30% to 35%. So can we do INR 8,000 crores in the next 2 years?
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language].
Dipesh Sancheti
analyst[Foreign Language].
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language].
Dipesh Sancheti
analystBecause this entire order [Foreign Language].
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language].
Dipesh Sancheti
analystSir, just to understand, sir, [Foreign Language].
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language].
Dipesh Sancheti
analystAnd what is the current order book, sir [Foreign Language].
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language].
Dipesh Sancheti
analyst[Foreign Language] will we maintain the same debt [Foreign Language] we will ramp up because we will need more capacity utilization?
Unknown Executive
executive[Foreign Language].
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executive[Foreign Language].
Unknown Executive
executive[Foreign Language].
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language].
Dipesh Sancheti
analyst[Foreign Language] I completely understand that the loan is not big enough, but [Foreign Language].
Unknown Executive
executive[Foreign Language].
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language].
Dipesh Sancheti
analyst[Foreign Language]. How does the payment happen?
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language].
Dipesh Sancheti
analyst[Foreign Language].
Dinesh Patidar
executiveYes, yes, definitely sir.
Operator
operatorOur next question is from the line of Rikesh Parikh from Rockstud Capital LLP.
Rikesh Parikh
analyst[Foreign Language].
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language].
Rikesh Parikh
analyst[Foreign Language]. Secondly, [Foreign Language] other than us [Foreign Language].
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language].
Rikesh Parikh
analyst[Foreign Language].
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language].
Rikesh Parikh
analystNothing as of now, okay. Sir, third [Foreign Language].
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language].
Rikesh Parikh
analystOkay. [Foreign Language].
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language].
Rikesh Parikh
analyst[Foreign Language].
Dinesh Patidar
executiveYes. [Foreign Language].
Rikesh Parikh
analystOkay. [Foreign Language].
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language].
Rikesh Parikh
analyst[Foreign Language].
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language].
Operator
operatorOur next question is from the line of Balasubramanian from Arihant Capital Markets Limited.
Balasubramanian A
analystSir, just wanted confirmation on the payment cycle that you mentioned. 90% of the payment is received in 30 days or 90 days [Foreign Language]?
Dinesh Patidar
executiveSure, sure. [Foreign Language] 90% within 30 days [Foreign Language] 10% within 90 days.
Balasubramanian A
analystOkay. And advance [Foreign Language] from the farmer and the government?
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language].
Operator
operatorDue to time constrains, that was the last question of our question-and-answer session. I would now like to hand the conference over to Mr. Dinesh Patidar for closing comments.
Dinesh Patidar
executiveThank you. [Foreign Language] Thank you.
Operator
operatorThank you. On behalf of Shakti Pumps India Limited, that concludes this conference. Thank you for joining us, and you may now disconnect your lines.
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