Shakti Pumps (India) Limited (531431) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

January 29, 2024

BSE Limited IN Industrials Machinery earnings 53 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Ladies and gentlemen, good day, and welcome to the Shakti Pumps (India) Limited Q3 and 9M FY '24 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] I now hand the conference over to Mr. Rohit Anand from Ernst & Young LLP. Thank you, and over to you, sir.

Rohit Anand

attendee
#2

Good afternoon, everyone. Before we proceed, let me remind you that the discussion may contain forward-looking statements that may involve known or unknown risks, uncertainties and other factors. It must be viewed in conjunction with our business risks that could cause future result performance or achievements to differ significantly from what is expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements. To take us forward through the financial results and development, to answer -- and to answer your questions today, we have the senior management of Shakti Pumps (India) Limited, represented by Mr. Dinesh Patidar, Chairman; Mr. Ramesh Patidar, Managing Director; Mr. Dinesh Patel, Chief Financial Officer; and Mr. Ravi Patidar, CS and Compliance Officer. We will start the call with a brief overview of the past quarter by Mr. Patidar, followed by a Q&A session. I will now hand the call to Mr. Patidar. Over to you, sir.

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#3

Thank you, Rohit. [Foreign Language] Thank you. Dinesh?

Dinesh Patel

executive
#4

Thank you, sir. Good afternoon, everyone. Recorded revenue from operations of INR 495.6 crores in Q3 FY '24, our highest-ever revenue in a quarter, up by 57.7% Y-o-Y from INR 314.2 crores in Q3 FY '23. Our export business registered revenue of INR 62.2 crores. We have also reported our highest-ever number in terms of profitability. EBITDA for the quarter stood at INR 71 crores as against INR 21.9 crores in Q3 FY '23, increased by 224.2% Y-o-Y. EBITDA margin was at 14.3%, expanded significantly by 735 bps from 7% in the corresponding quarter of last year. PAT for the quarter stood at INR 45.2 crores, recording a robust growth of 301% Y-o-Y from INR 11.2 crores and PAT margin at 9.1%, up by 554 bps from 3.6% in Q3 FY '23. For 9 months FY '24, revenue from operations stood at INR 761.5 crores. EBITDA recorded a robust growth of 69%, reaching to INR 94 crores from INR 55.7 crores in the same period of previous fiscal. EBITDA margin is 12.4% in 9 months FY '24, expanded by 527 bps from 7.1% in 9 months FY '23. PAT for the 9 months FY '24 stood at INR 52 crores as against INR 21.9 crores in 9 months FY '23. PAT margin in 9 months FY '24 was at 6.8%, expanded by 405 bps from 2.8% in 9 months FY '23. With this, now I request the moderator to open the floor for question and answer. Thank you.

Operator

operator
#5

[Operator Instructions] The first question is from the line of Vikram from Niveshaay Investment Advisors.

Vikram Sharma

analyst
#6

Congratulations for a good set of numbers. So sir, I wanted to inquire on how we are managing volatility in raw material prices. So solar module prices has corrected a lot in last 3, 4 months. So is our higher margin of 14% is due to solar module prices? Or what is main reason behind significant margin improvement?

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#7

[Foreign Language]

Vikram Sharma

analyst
#8

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#9

[Foreign Language]

Vikram Sharma

analyst
#10

Okay. [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#11

[Foreign Language]

Vikram Sharma

analyst
#12

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Dinesh Patidar

executive
#13

[Foreign Language]

Operator

operator
#14

The next question is from the line of [ Vishal ] from Svan Investments.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#15

Congratulations for a great set of numbers. [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#16

[Foreign Language]

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#17

Okay. Okay. [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#18

[Foreign Language]

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#19

Okay. Okay, sir. [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#20

[Foreign Language]

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#21

Great, sir. Great. [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#22

[Foreign Language]

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#23

Okay. [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#24

[Foreign Language]

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#25

Okay. [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#26

[Foreign Language]

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#27

Okay. Okay. [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#28

[Foreign Language]

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#29

Okay, okay, okay. [Foreign Language] gross margin [Foreign Language] Has mix been a problem?

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#30

[Foreign Language]

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#31

Okay. Okay. So, Sir, [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#32

[Foreign Language]

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#33

[Foreign Language]

Operator

operator
#34

Sir, I'm sorry to interrupt. May I request that you return to the question queue for follow-up questions as there are several participants waiting for their turn?

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#35

Okay, okay, fine. Fine.

Operator

operator
#36

The next question is from the line of Dhruv Bajaj from Smart Sync Investment Advisory Services.

Dhruv Bajaj

analyst
#37

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#38

Yes. [Foreign Language]

Dhruv Bajaj

analyst
#39

Got it, sir. That's helpful, sir. [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#40

[Foreign Language]

Dhruv Bajaj

analyst
#41

Okay, sir. [Foreign Language]

Operator

operator
#42

Sir, may I request that you return to the question queue, sir, for follow-up questions as there are several participants waiting, sir? The next question is from the line of Harshil Solanki from Equitree Capital.

Harshil Solanki

analyst
#43

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#44

[Foreign Language]

Harshil Solanki

analyst
#45

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#46

[Foreign Language]

Harshil Solanki

analyst
#47

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#48

Yes, yes. Definitely. [Foreign Language]

Harshil Solanki

analyst
#49

Okay, sir. [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#50

[Foreign Language]

Harshil Solanki

analyst
#51

Last question, sir. [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#52

[Foreign Language]

Ramesh Patidar

executive
#53

[Foreign Language]

Harshil Solanki

analyst
#54

[Foreign Language]

Ramesh Patidar

executive
#55

[Foreign Language]

Harshil Solanki

analyst
#56

[Foreign Language]

Ramesh Patidar

executive
#57

[Foreign Language]

Operator

operator
#58

The next question is from the line of [ Ronak ] from RoboCapital.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#59

Hello?

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#60

[Foreign Language]

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#61

Firstly, congratulations for the good results. [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#62

[Foreign Language]

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#63

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#64

[Foreign Language]

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#65

[Foreign Language] That is all from my side.

Operator

operator
#66

The next question is from the line of Hardik Vyas from ET NOW.

Hardik Vyas

attendee
#67

Congratulations, sir. [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#68

[Foreign Language]

Hardik Vyas

attendee
#69

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#70

[Foreign Language]

Hardik Vyas

attendee
#71

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#72

Right, right. [Foreign Language]

Hardik Vyas

attendee
#73

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#74

[Foreign Language]

Hardik Vyas

attendee
#75

Right. [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#76

[Foreign Language]

Hardik Vyas

attendee
#77

Okay. [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#78

[Foreign Language]

Hardik Vyas

attendee
#79

Right, sir. [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#80

[Foreign Language]

Hardik Vyas

attendee
#81

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#82

[Foreign Language]

Hardik Vyas

attendee
#83

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#84

[Foreign Language]

Hardik Vyas

attendee
#85

[Foreign Language] Sir, last question. [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#86

[Foreign Language]

Hardik Vyas

attendee
#87

December quarter?

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#88

[Foreign Language]

Hardik Vyas

attendee
#89

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#90

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patel

executive
#91

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#92

[Foreign Language]

Hardik Vyas

attendee
#93

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#94

[Foreign Language]

Hardik Vyas

attendee
#95

[Foreign Language] That's all from my side.

Operator

operator
#96

The next question is from the line of Kush Tandon from Ananta Capital.

Kush Tandon

analyst
#97

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#98

[Foreign Language]

Kush Tandon

analyst
#99

Okay. [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#100

[Foreign Language]

Kush Tandon

analyst
#101

Okay, sir. And our margin guidance, sir, 12% on the lower side given that we can do INR 550 crores, INR 600 crore quarterly revenue. So sir, you are being conservative just like that, or [Foreign Language].

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#102

[Foreign Language]

Kush Tandon

analyst
#103

Okay. [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#104

[Foreign Language]

Operator

operator
#105

The next question is from the line of [ Ankur Kumar ] from Alpha Capital.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#106

Congrats on a very good set of numbers. [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#107

[Foreign Language]

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#108

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#109

Right. [Foreign Language]

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#110

Got it, sir. [Foreign Language] Next year will be like 25% growth over this number?

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#111

Right.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#112

Got it, sir. [Foreign Language] Can you comment on that?

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#113

[Foreign Language]

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#114

Got it, sir. [Foreign Language] Good number, sir.

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#115

Good number. Good number, yes.

Operator

operator
#116

The next question is from the line of Gauri from Old Bridge Capital Management.

Gauri Anand

analyst
#117

Yes. And sir, congratulations -- many congratulations to you for this excellent performance. [Foreign Language] order execution capacity is [ INR 2,400 ] enabling resolution for that INR 200 crore QIP, which is when you talk about execution, [Foreign Language] this year, INR 1,250 crores revenue, [Foreign Language] let's say, about anywhere between INR 1,600 crores to INR 1,700 crores [Foreign Language]. What I'm asking is that you gave us a guidance on the order book. But actually, the execution is annual, right? So you still have that much capacity and you don't have to necessarily expand. Can you help me understand this?

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#118

Yes, yes, yes. I understand. Madam Gauri, madam, I understand very good. [Foreign Language]

Gauri Anand

analyst
#119

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#120

[Foreign Language]

Gauri Anand

analyst
#121

[Foreign Language] Like what is the sense on working capital, sir? [Foreign Language] you will be able to get money in time? Or what is -- how is the contract really structured?

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#122

[Foreign Language]

Gauri Anand

analyst
#123

[Foreign Language] 90% of the payment [Foreign Language] profit component [ mandate is ] 10% [Foreign Language].

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#124

[Foreign Language]

Gauri Anand

analyst
#125

Okay. Any other [Foreign Language] mandate [Foreign Language].

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#126

[Foreign Language]

Gauri Anand

analyst
#127

Okay. Okay, sir. And you don't expect a slippage here? I mean, whatever is the 120 days kind of a cycle, you don't expect this to elongate. Is that right? [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#128

[Foreign Language]

Operator

operator
#129

The next question is from the line of Yashi Lohia from The MicroCap Minute.

Yashi Lohia

analyst
#130

Congratulations, sir. [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#131

[Foreign Language]

Yashi Lohia

analyst
#132

Right, sir. [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#133

[Foreign Language]

Yashi Lohia

analyst
#134

Right, sir. [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#135

[Foreign Language]

Yashi Lohia

analyst
#136

Okay. [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#137

[Foreign Language]

Yashi Lohia

analyst
#138

All right, sir. [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#139

[Foreign Language]

Operator

operator
#140

The next question is from the line of [ Vivek Gautam ] from [ GS Investment ].

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#141

To be honest, I have recently started tracking the company, so not much idea. But sir, the concerns on the sales to Africa regarding the receivables are there for other companies. So how are we planning to tackle that in the Africa and other nations? Is it a World Bank-funded project so that we get payment through LC? And similar queries on the government business, B2G business in India, it's also having some concerns on the receivables. [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#142

[Foreign Language]

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#143

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#144

[Foreign Language]

Operator

operator
#145

The next question is from the line of Rikesh Parikh from Rockstud Capital LLP. [indiscernible] Hello, Mr. Rikesh Parikh?

Rikesh Parikh

analyst
#146

Yes. Congratulations for a good set of numbers. Sir, I just wanted to understand your progress on the EV side wins, any further progress on the order inflow and the investment we are going to do over the next [ 1 ] years?

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#147

[Foreign Language]

Rikesh Parikh

analyst
#148

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#149

[Foreign Language]

Operator

operator
#150

The next question is from the line of [ Rajasekar MS ], an individual investor.

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#151

Congrats on a good set of numbers. I've been following your company for a quite long time. [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#152

[Foreign Language]

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#153

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#154

[Foreign Language]

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#155

[Foreign Language] That's what I would put it across, correct?

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#156

Correct, correct, correct. [Foreign Language]

Operator

operator
#157

Due to time constraint, that was the last question for today. I would now like to hand the conference over to Mr. Dinesh Patidar for closing comments. Over to you, sir.

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#158

[Foreign Language] Thank you. Thank you.

Operator

operator
#159

Thank you. On behalf of Shakti Pumps (India) Limited, that concludes this conference. Thank you for joining us, and you may now disconnect your lines.

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