Shakti Pumps (India) Limited (531431) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
July 22, 2024
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Operator
operatorLadies and gentlemen, good day, and welcome to the Shakti Pumps India Limited Q1 FY '25 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this conference is being recorded. I now hand the conference over to Mr. Rohit Anand from Ernst & Young LLP. Thank you, and over to you, Mr. Rohit Anand.
Rohit Anand
attendeeGood afternoon, everyone. Before we proceed, let me remind you that this discussion may contain forward-looking statements that may involve known or unknown risks, uncertainties and other factors. It must be viewed in conjunction with our business risk that could cause future results, performance or achievements to differ significantly from what is expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements. To take us forward through the financial results and development and to answer your questions today, we have the senior management of Shakti Pumps India Limited, represented by Mr. Dinesh Patidar, Chairman; Mr. Ramesh Patidar, Managing Director; Mr. Dinesh Patel, Chief Financial Officer; and Mr. Ravi Patidar, Company Secretary and Compliance Officer. We will start the call with a brief overview of the past quarter by Mr. Patidar followed by an interactive Q&A session. I will now hand over the call to Mr. Patidar. Over to you, sir.
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patel
executiveThank you, sir. Good afternoon, everyone. During the Q1 FY '25, our revenue was at INR 567.6 crores, which increased from INR 113.1 crore in the same quarter last year, reporting a growth of 4x. Our EBITDA stood at INR 135.9 crore as against INR 7.9 crore in Q1 FY '24. EBITDA margins were at 23.9% in this quarter, as against 7% in Q1 FY '24. The expansion in margin was largely driven by economics of scale and higher execution of orders along with some benefit accrued due to declined raw material prices. Profit after tax stood at INR 92.6 crore compared to INR 1 crore in Q1 FY '24. Rate margin stood at 16.3% as compared to 0.9% in the corresponding quarter of the previous fiscal. The company's long-term credit rating has been upgraded to A+ stable from India Ratings and Research. With our strong balance sheet and the key metrics, we are confident in the timely completion of order book and consolidate our position in the market. With this, I now request the moderator to open the floor for question and answer. Thank you.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] The first question is from the line of Deepak Purswani from Swan Investments.
Deepak Purswani
analystCongratulations on very good set of numbers. Sir, firstly, [Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language]
Deepak Purswani
analyst[Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language]
Deepak Purswani
analyst[Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language]
Deepak Purswani
analyst[Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language]
Deepak Purswani
analystOkay. Sir, [Foreign Language] there are some new players who are also entering in this space. [Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language]
Deepak Purswani
analystOkay. And secondly, sir, on the margin front [Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language]
Deepak Purswani
analyst[Foreign Language]
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions]
Deepak Purswani
analystYes. I'm just continuing the existing question.
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language]
Operator
operatorThe next question is from Aashish Upganlawar from InvesQ.
Aashish Upganlawar
analystSir, on the Ajmer pilot project, any updates on that? And [Foreign Language] how things are looking and [Foreign Language] if it goes through, in the next maybe 1 or 2 years? How things look?
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language]
Aashish Upganlawar
analyst[Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language]
Aashish Upganlawar
analyst[Foreign Language] As of now, whatever you know.
Dinesh Patidar
executiveSame time. [Foreign Language]
Aashish Upganlawar
analystOkay. Okay. [Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language]
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] So the next question is from Harshil Solanki from Equitree Capital.
Harshil Solanki
analyst[Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language]
Harshil Solanki
analyst[Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executiveRight. Right.
Harshil Solanki
analyst[Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language]
Harshil Solanki
analystGot it. Got it. [Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language]
Harshil Solanki
analystOkay. Okay. [Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patel
executive[Foreign Language]
Harshil Solanki
analyst[Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patel
executive[Foreign Language]
Harshil Solanki
analystYes, yes.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions]
Harshil Solanki
analystYes, right after this answer, I'll get back.
Dinesh Patel
executive[Foreign Language]
Operator
operatorSo, sir the next question is from -- the next question is from Avi Agarwal from Arihant Capital Markets Limited.
Avi Agarwal
analyst[Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language]
Avi Agarwal
analyst[Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language]
Avi Agarwal
analyst[Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language]
Operator
operatorThe next question is from [ Parth Mehta ] [indiscernible]. Sorry, the next question is from [indiscernible].
Unknown Analyst
analyst[Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executiveThank you, Rajesh-ji. Thank You.
Unknown Analyst
analyst[Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language]
Unknown Analyst
analyst[Foreign Language] central government, everything is clear.
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language] Everything is very clear. [Foreign Language]
Unknown Analyst
analyst[Foreign Language] situation of all stakeholders.
Dinesh Patidar
executiveRight, sir. Everybody should...
Unknown Analyst
analystVery good. [Foreign Language] CFO can share the number or you have the number. [Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patel
executive[Foreign Language] around 70,000, 80,000-something.
Unknown Analyst
analyst70,000, 80,000. [Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patel
executive[Foreign Language]
Unknown Analyst
analyst[Foreign Language] percentage of revenue would be how much?
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions]
Dinesh Patidar
executive78%.
Unknown Analyst
analyst78%. Okay. Congratulations and all the best.
Operator
operatorThe next question is from Tushar Jain from Sumitomo Mitsui DS Asset Management.
Tushar Jain
analyst[Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language]
Tushar Jain
analyst[Foreign Language] major raw material [Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executiveMajor raw material, solar panel, stainless steel, copper [Foreign Language]. Stainless steel, copper, solar panel.
Tushar Jain
analyst[Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language]
Operator
operatorThe next question is from Ajay Kumar Surya from Niveshaay.
Ajay Surya
analystSir, congratulation on this fantastic number. [Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language]
Ajay Surya
analyst[Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patel
executive[Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language]
Ajay Surya
analyst[Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language]
Ajay Surya
analyst[Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language].
Ajay Surya
analyst[Foreign Language] So going forward, sir, [Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language]
Ajay Surya
analystSir. And sir, [Foreign Language]
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] The next question is from Swati Jhunjhunwala from JM Financial.
Swati Jhunjhunwala
analyst[Foreign Language] submersible pumps versus solar pumps [Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executiveOkay. [Foreign Language]
Swati Jhunjhunwala
analyst[Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language]
Operator
operatorThe next question is from Bharat Shah from Ask Investment Managers Limited. [Operator Instructions] The next question is from [indiscernible].
Unknown Analyst
analyst[Foreign Language] Slide #30 or 31. Slide #30 [Foreign Language].
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patel
executive[Foreign Language]
Unknown Analyst
analyst[Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language]
Unknown Analyst
analyst[Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language]
Unknown Analyst
analystSir, [Foreign Language] market size [Foreign Language] 1,470 billion.
Dinesh Patel
executive[Foreign Language]
Unknown Analyst
analyst[Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language]
Unknown Analyst
analystSir, is the [Foreign Language] replacement cycle [Foreign Language].
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language]
Unknown Analyst
analyst[Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language]
Unknown Analyst
analystOkay. Sir, last question, [Foreign Language] EBITDA margin [Foreign Language] somewhere around [Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patel
executive[Foreign Language]
Operator
operatorThe next question is from Bharat Shah from ASK Investment Managers Limited.
Bharat Shah
analyst[Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patel
executive[Foreign Language] 15% to 16% of margin [Foreign Language] 30% the growth to minimum [Foreign Language] EBITDA margin level [Foreign Language] 15% to 16% growth level [Foreign Language].
Bharat Shah
analyst30% [Foreign Language].
Dinesh Patidar
executiveYear-on-year basis [Foreign Language] Quarter-on-quarter basis [Foreign Language] quarter-on-quarter basis [Foreign Language] INR 500 crores.
Bharat Shah
analyst[Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language]
Bharat Shah
analyst[Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language]
Bharat Shah
analyst[Foreign Language] margin structurally [Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executiveMostly the external factor [Foreign Language] raw material, the prices [Foreign Language] 65% raw material [Foreign Language]
Bharat Shah
analyst[Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language] especially power electronics or motor [Foreign Language]
Operator
operatorThe next question is from Darshil Pandya from Finterest Capital.
Darshil Pandya
analyst[Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executive'27 [Foreign Language]
Darshil Pandya
analyst'27. Okay. And [Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language]
Darshil Pandya
analyst[Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language]
Darshil Pandya
analystSir, [Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language]
Darshil Pandya
analyst[Foreign Language] Question, sir. [Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patel
executive[Foreign Language]
Darshil Pandya
analystOkay. Okay. And, sir...
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language]
Darshil Pandya
analystGot it. Got it. And sir, [Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language]
Darshil Pandya
analystAnd congratulations and all the best for the coming quarters.
Operator
operatorThe next question is from Ketan Athavale from RoboCapital.
Ketan Athavale
analyst[Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language] around 15,000 pumps, revenue around INR 445 crore.
Ketan Athavale
analystOkay. [Foreign Language] Rough figure.
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language]
Operator
operatorThe next question is from CA Garvit Goyal from Invest Analytics Advisory, LLP.
CA Garvit Goyal
analystAm I Audible?
Dinesh Patidar
executive[indiscernible].
CA Garvit Goyal
analystCongrats for a good set of numbers, sir. Just one question on the sustainability of the growth. [Foreign Language]. And secondly, sir, [Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language]
CA Garvit Goyal
analyst[Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language]
CA Garvit Goyal
analystSo sir, total CapEx [Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executiveINR 250 crore [Foreign Language] INR 200 crore support [Foreign Language]
CA Garvit Goyal
analyst[Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language]
CA Garvit Goyal
analyst[Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patel
executive[Foreign Language]
CA Garvit Goyal
analystAnd, sir, [Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patel
executive[Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language]
CA Garvit Goyal
analystAnd just last question, sir, quarter [Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language]
CA Garvit Goyal
analyst[Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language]
Dinesh Patel
executive[Foreign Language] for the next 15 months.
Operator
operatorLadies and gentlemen, due to time constraints, we will take that as a last question. I would now like to hand the conference over to Mr. Dinesh Patidar for closing comments.
Dinesh Patidar
executive[Foreign Language] Thank you very much.
Operator
operatorOn behalf of that, concludes Shakti Pumps India Limited, this conference. Thank you for joining us, and you now disconnect your lines.
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