Shakti Pumps (India) Limited (531431) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

October 28, 2024

BSE Limited IN Industrials Machinery earnings 61 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Ladies and gentlemen, good day, and welcome to the Q2 and H1 '25 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this conference is being recorded. I now hand the conference over to Mr. Rohit Anand from Ernst & Young LLP. Thank you, and over to you, Mr. Rohit Anand.

Rohit Anand

attendee
#2

Good afternoon, everyone. Before we proceed, let me remind you that the discussion may contain forward-looking statements that may involve known or unknown risks, uncertainties and other factors. It must be viewed in conjunction with our business risk that could cause future results performance or achievements to differ significantly from what is expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements. To take us forward through the financial results and development and to answer your questions today, we have the senior management of Shakti Pumps India Limited represented by Mr. Dinesh Patidar, Chairman; Mr. Ramesh Patidar, Managing Director; Mr. Dinesh Patel, Chief Financial Officer; and Mr. Ravi Patidar, CS and Compliance Officer. We will start the call with a brief overview of the past quarter by Mr. Dinesh Patidar followed by a Q&A session. I will now hand over the call to Mr. Patidar. Over to you, sir.

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#3

Thank you, Rohit. [Foreign Language] Over to Dinesh Patel.

Dinesh Patel

executive
#4

Thank you, sir. Good afternoon, everyone. We delivered a remarkable performance during the quarter 2 and first half of financial year 2025. We reported a revenue from operations of INR 634.6 crores in Q2 FY '25, which was at INR 152.8 crores in Q2 FY '24, a growth of 315% year-on-year basis. EBITDA increased to INR 148.7 crores this quarter as compared to INR 15.2 crores in the corresponding quarter of previous year. EBITDA margin expanded significantly to 23.4% from 10% in Q2 FY '24. This expansion was largely due to higher execution of orders and realization of economies of scale. PAT of Q2 FY '25 stood at INR 101.4 crores with a PAT margin of 16% as compared to INR 5.9 crores at a PAT margin of 3.8% in Q2 FY '24. Earnings per share for the quarter was at INR 50.6 as compared to INR 3.2 per share Q2 FY '24. In H1 FY '25, the company recorded revenue amounting to INR 1,202.2 crores, which represents a substantial 3.5x increase from INR 265.8 crores in H1 FY '24. EBITDA also witnessed a significant rise to INR 284.6 crores, translating to an EBITDA margin of 23.7% as compared to INR 23.1 crores and an EBITDA margin of 8.7% in H1 FY '24. PAT for FY '25 stood at INR 194.1 crores with a PAT margin of 16.1% as compared to INR 6.9 crores and a PAT margin of 2.6% in H1 FY '24. EPS for H1 FY '25 was INR 96.9 per share as compared to INR 3.7 per share in corresponding period of last year. The company's long-term credit rating remained at A+ stable from India Rating and Research. With our strong balance sheet and the key metrics, we are confident in the timely completion of order book and consolidate our position in the market. With this, I now request the moderator to open the floor for question-and-answer. Thank you.

Operator

operator
#5

[Operator Instructions] The first question is from the line of [ Ashish Soni ] from [ Family Office ].

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#6

Sir, what about margin sustainability? Last quarter, you said margin can improve, but is it peak right now? What's your sense on the margin?

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#7

[Foreign Language]

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#8

Okay. [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#9

[Foreign Language]

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#10

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#11

[Foreign Language]

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#12

[Foreign Language] That's the question.

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#13

[Foreign Language]

Operator

operator
#14

The next question is from the line of Ankit Jain from IIFL.

Ankit Jain

analyst
#15

Congratulations [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#16

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patel

executive
#17

[Foreign Language]

Ankit Jain

analyst
#18

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patel

executive
#19

[Foreign Language]

Ankit Jain

analyst
#20

Also, [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patel

executive
#21

Last quarter [Foreign Language]

Ankit Jain

analyst
#22

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#23

Already [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patel

executive
#24

[Foreign Language]

Ankit Jain

analyst
#25

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#26

[Foreign Language]

Ankit Jain

analyst
#27

And sir, Ajmer [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#28

[Foreign Language]

Ankit Jain

analyst
#29

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#30

12 months [Foreign Language]

Ankit Jain

analyst
#31

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patel

executive
#32

Overall order book [Foreign Language]

Operator

operator
#33

[Operator Instructions] The next question is from the line of [ Vivek Gautam ] from GS Investment.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#34

Congratulations on excellent number yet again by you, sir. [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#35

Vivek, [Foreign Language]

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#36

[Foreign Language] both for solar pumps and in the time to come or both for solar pumps and the solar power in general for India [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#37

[Foreign Language]

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#38

Sir, [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#39

[Foreign Language]

Operator

operator
#40

The next question is from the line of Deepak Purswani from Swan Investments.

Deepak Purswani

analyst
#41

Congratulation on a great set of numbers. [Foreign Language] So hence, do you want to revise the guidance, one? And [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#42

[Foreign Language]

Deepak Purswani

analyst
#43

Super, sir. [Foreign Language] and you are seeing good growth. Is this understanding right?

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#44

Yeah. [Foreign Language]

Deepak Purswani

analyst
#45

Great, sir. [Foreign Language] Can you throw some light on that?

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#46

[Foreign Language]

Ramesh Patidar

executive
#47

[Foreign Language]

Deepak Purswani

analyst
#48

Okay. Okay, sir. [Foreign Language]

Ramesh Patidar

executive
#49

[Foreign Language]

Deepak Purswani

analyst
#50

Sure. Sir, [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patel

executive
#51

[Foreign Language]

Operator

operator
#52

[Operator Instructions] The next question is from the line of Ajaykumar Surya, Niveshaay.

Ajay Surya

analyst
#53

Congratulations [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#54

Okay, Ajay, [Foreign Language]

Ajay Surya

analyst
#55

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#56

[Foreign Language]

Ajay Surya

analyst
#57

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#58

Ajay Kumar, [Foreign Language]

Ajay Surya

analyst
#59

So sir, just a final understanding [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#60

Ajay, [Foreign Language]

Ajay Surya

analyst
#61

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#62

Ajay, [Foreign Language]

Ajay Surya

analyst
#63

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#64

[Foreign Language]

Ajay Surya

analyst
#65

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#66

[Foreign Language]

Operator

operator
#67

The next question is from the line of Venkatesh Akula Wells Fargo.

Venkatesh Akula

analyst
#68

First of all, congratulations for the stellar results. And I've gone through the investor presentation, and I see a decrease in the cash flow from operations maybe due to the change in the working capital. Like what impact would it have on the ongoing operations?

Dinesh Patel

executive
#69

Can you repeat your question? Actually, I'm not getting what you want to say.

Venkatesh Akula

analyst
#70

Yes. Just asking about the cash flow from operations. I see like there is a reduction in the cash flow generated. I mean, there is a decrease in the working capital compared to the previous year. So will there be any impact for the execution of orders or upcoming orders?

Dinesh Patel

executive
#71

No, no. There is not any impact. We have sufficient working capital facility available from our multiple banking partners. So that is not a constraint. And recently also, there is INR 1,000 crore outstanding in our debtors book, but still we are executing very well in our pending order book.

Venkatesh Akula

analyst
#72

So is it like any new chances of adding any new debt, sir, from banks?

Dinesh Patel

executive
#73

No, no, no, nothing. We have sufficient sanction limits. We can use that.

Operator

operator
#74

So the next question is from the line of [ Jainam ] from Saltoro Investment.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#75

Congratulations [Foreign Language] So really want to thank for that. And I wanted to get an understanding of Shakti EV business. I think our factory started recently, I think, in the month of September. So if you could throw some light and what is the vision of management in terms of where can we see the EV business going in the next 2 to 3 years?

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#76

Yes. [Foreign Language]

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#77

Sir, what kind of revenues [Foreign Language] If you could provide some --throw some light on that, that would be great.

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#78

Definitely. [Foreign Language]

Operator

operator
#79

The next question is from the line of Harshil Solanki from Equitree Capital.

Harshil Solanki

analyst
#80

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patel

executive
#81

[Foreign Language]

Harshil Solanki

analyst
#82

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patel

executive
#83

[Foreign Language] So there are too many factors. [Foreign Language] So there is not any external debt we have taken from anyone.

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#84

[Foreign Language]

Harshil Solanki

analyst
#85

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patel

executive
#86

[Foreign Language]

Harshil Solanki

analyst
#87

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patel

executive
#88

[Foreign Language]

Harshil Solanki

analyst
#89

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patel

executive
#90

[Foreign Language]

Operator

operator
#91

The next question is from the line of Ankur Kumar from Alpha Capital.

Ankur Kumar

analyst
#92

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#93

[Foreign Language]

Ankur Kumar

analyst
#94

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#95

[Foreign Language]

Ankur Kumar

analyst
#96

[Foreign Language] or is it like longer?

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#97

12 months.

Operator

operator
#98

The next question is from the line of [ Ayush Agarwal ] from MAPL Value Investing Fund.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#99

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#100

Ayush, [Foreign Language]

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#101

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#102

[Foreign Language]

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#103

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#104

[Foreign Language]

Operator

operator
#105

The next question is from the line of [ Harshit Saini ] from [ Summer Wealth Advisors ].

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#106

My name is Harshit Saini from [ Summer Wealth Advisors]. First of all, congratulation on the wonderful results. Sir, considering the current growth, INR 3,000 crores is the least that we will do in financial year '26 considering 30% growth rate. But what if our revenue is more than INR 3,000 crores, can we add capacity to more than INR 3,000 crores spend required?

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#107

Yes, yes. [Foreign Language]

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#108

Okay, sir. Aso, in the last continue call, 30% growth was the guidance. Was it a CAGR growth rate?

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#109

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patel

executive
#110

[Foreign Language]

Operator

operator
#111

The next question is from the line CA Garvit Goyal from Nvest Analytics Advisory LLP.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#112

Congratulations for a good set of numbers [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#113

[Foreign Language]

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#114

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#115

[Foreign Language]

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#116

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patel

executive
#117

INR 5,000 crores.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#118

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patel

executive
#119

Total revenue. [Foreign Language]

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#120

[Foreign Language] Like I missed that. Can you please explain again like how the recovery is happening now for that particular amount?

Dinesh Patel

executive
#121

[Foreign Language]

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#122

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patel

executive
#123

[Foreign Language]

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#124

And lastly, sir, [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patel

executive
#125

[Foreign Language]

Operator

operator
#126

The next question is from the line of Pranav Shrimal from PINC Wealth Advisory.

Pranav Shrimal

analyst
#127

[Foreign Language] we can expand the capacity to INR 3,000 crores [Foreign Language]?

Dinesh Patel

executive
#128

[Foreign Language]

Pranav Shrimal

analyst
#129

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patel

executive
#130

[Foreign Language]

Pranav Shrimal

analyst
#131

[Foreign Language] can we reach around INR4,000 crores -- INR4,500 crores, INR 5,000 crores [Foreign Language]?

Dinesh Patel

executive
#132

[Foreign Language]

Pranav Shrimal

analyst
#133

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#134

[Foreign Language]

Ravi Patidar

executive
#135

[Foreign Language]

Pranav Shrimal

analyst
#136

Got it. Got it, sir. And lastly, sir, [Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patel

executive
#137

[Foreign Language]

Operator

operator
#138

The next question is from the line of [ Hardik Patel ], an individual investor.

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#139

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patel

executive
#140

[Foreign Language]

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#141

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#142

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Unknown Attendee

attendee
#143

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Dinesh Patidar

executive
#144

[Foreign Language]

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#145

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Dinesh Patidar

executive
#146

[Foreign Language]

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#147

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#148

[Foreign Language]

Unknown Attendee

attendee
#149

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#150

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patel

executive
#151

[Foreign Language]

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#152

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Operator

operator
#153

Ladies and gentlemen, due to time constraint, we will take this as the last question. I would now like to hand the conference over to Mr. Dinesh Patidar for closing comments.

Dinesh Patidar

executive
#154

Thank you very much, [Foreign Language]

Operator

operator
#155

On behalf of Shakti Pumps India Limited, that concludes this conference. Thank you for joining us, and you may now disconnect your lines.

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