Silence Therapeutics plc (SLN) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

September 16, 2026

NASDAQ US Health Care Biotechnology conference_presentation 34 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Unknown Speaker

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#1

Thank you, everyone, and thanks for joining us at the Morgan Stanley Global Healthcare Conference. I'm Mike Goltz, one of the biotech analysts here. It's my pleasure to introduce Steven Romano, head of R&D from Silence Therapeutics. Just as a quick reminder, the format for today is a fireside chat, but if anyone in the audience has a question, please raise your hand to make sure we address it in our discussion. But before we get started, I just need to read a quick disclosure. For important disclosures, please see the Morgan Stanley Research Disclosure website at www.morganstanley.com/researchdisclosures. If you have any questions, please reach out to your Morgan Stanley sales representative. And with that, Steve, thanks for joining us today. And maybe to kick things off, I'll just hand it over to you to make some introductory comments, and then we can go into the Q&A.

Steven Romano

executive
#2

Thank you, Mike. It's nice to be here. So, just maybe a few words on Silence. So we are a global biopharmaceutical company, clinical stage, that focuses on the development of small interfering RNA compounds. And we've been fortunate. We have what we refer to as our Gold platform, which means GalNac oligonucleotide delivery platform, and we target the liver using GalNac as the ligand. But we have a range of technologies that we apply to our compounds. That's for us with the IP we have, a very robust IP library. And that includes the sequences, the manner in which we choose our sequences, the chemical or chemistry modifications that we apply to our sequences to ensure that they're durable, potent, and safe, as well as IP around the linkers that we use to attach our sequences to the GalNac and direct it to the hepatocytes. So the bottom line is we've been successful over the last few years. We've really transferred, shifting from a research company into a clinical stage company, and we've had three products in the market. Our lead compound now that we're really focused on, obviously, is Divesiran.

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#3

Great. Thanks for that introduction, Steve. And maybe we can focus on the lead program, Divesiran, in development for polycythemia vera. You recently shared some very promising Phase 2 data, but before we dig into some of that, maybe you can just give us a brief background on the disease, what patients experience, and what.

Steven Romano

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#4

What the unmet need is? Yes, sure. So, polycythemia vera is a rare myeloproliferative neoplasm. It's associated in almost all patients with a JAK mutation. It's a driver mutation. And it leads to an overproduction of red blood cells. You can also have an overproduction of other blood cell lines. The issue is that when you have an overproduction of RBCs, red blood cells, your hematocrit, which is the portion of your blood, the volume of your blood that is associated with the RBCs, grows and it causes viscosity of the blood, and that can induce thromboembolic events and other severe cardiovascular outcomes. So in these patients, what you try to do is to reduce the hematocrit and retain hematocrit below 45%, which is considered a more safe range for these patients. And there was a very nice study that was done and published in The New England Journal of Medicine back in 2012 or so, 2013, that demonstrated that even if you maintain patients in the range of 46% to 50%, the former have four times elevation of cardiovascular death and cardiovascular events such as thromboembolism and bleeding. So that is the target of treatment, maintaining these patients below 45%. Most of these patients are older patients, although we see patients as young as their 30s. About 85% of the patients are over 40, and a good portion of the patients present older than 60. And we typically divide the population into high-risk or low-risk. The high-risk population is based on being over 60 because that places you at a higher risk just based on age, or any age patient that also has had a history of a thromboembolism. So we really aim our treatment at reducing the likelihood of having thromboembolisms or other cardiovascular events. And we do that by giving them phlebotomies, which is really the first-line treatment, which is simply removing blood from the patient with some regularity. That can work, but actually can complicate their symptomatic presentation and the burden of the symptoms, because these patients tend to be iron-deficient even at baseline, because their bone marrows are chewing up iron to create and make the RBCs, overproduce RBCs, and you add to that by removing blood in order to help them. So you're complicating their iron-deficient status and contributing to the symptom burden. So if we can do anything to reduce the need for phlebotomy, that would be tremendous. And by the way, I just want to add one more point about that is only about 75% to 80%, no more than 25% or 30% of patients maintain their hematocrit below 45% on a regular basis. So there's a huge issue here and a gap in treatment that we think Divesiran may be able to serve.

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#5

Yes, makes sense. I guess, how should we think about the market opportunity there and where you might fit into the current market? I know there's other agents out there.

Steven Romano

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#6

There as well? Yes, it's a good question. So, bottom line is there are a number of other different therapies out there besides phlebotomy. We often use cytoreductive agents such as hydroxyurea. There are newer compounds like the pegylated interferons like Besremi, or for instance the JAK compounds, which are used second or third line, but they are available for patients as well. And then very recently, the first hepcidin-directed therapy, which is a mimetic, was approved. And I think that's very exciting. The opportunity for us is probably in the range of $1 billion to $2 billion for our compound. The space, I think, is going to be growing with the entry of a new class of medicines that is largely well-tolerated, safe, but very effective. And then what's really interesting, and I'll just reflect on this for a moment, is the label for Ruspertide, which is the mimetic, actually has an indication that's quite broad. So it's for erythrocytosis, even though we all are studying patients that are phlebotomy-dependent and meet certain criteria to get involved in the trials. The indication that was given to them is actually very encouraging because we think this is a great pathway to exploit for helping patients to manage their condition much better. And I think that's a good indication of potential size of the market even expanding.

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#7

Makes a lot of sense. Maybe you can talk about your mechanism of action, you know, kind of how it relates to Ruspertide.

Steven Romano

executive
#8

Yes. So, Ruspertide, we're all targeting, or these new class of medicines are targeting the hepcidin pathway. So, hepcidin is the major modulator of iron in the body. These patients often have low levels of hepcidin. So what our compound does is target TMPRSS6. TMPRSS6 is a negative regulator of the hepcidin pathway. So if you block TMPRSS6, you elevate hepcidin. Hepcidin will reduce the amount of iron that's available for the bone marrow. So it essentially restricts iron to the bone marrow and therefore will starve the bone marrow of iron that's necessary, and therefore you see a nice drop in hematocrit. The mimetic that was just approved is actually an exogenously administered hormone, and that is a peptide, a synthetic peptide, and that is given on a weekly basis by injection. The way our compound works is to increase the endogenous production of hepcidin. So it's targeting the same pathway but in a different manner.

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#9

What are the advantages of getting endogenous hepcidin versus exogenous?

Steven Romano

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#10

Well, I think it's a couple items. First of all, with the technology we have, siRNAs are very durable. So you can give them very infrequently. But the reason why that's important is it means that they are elevating hepcidin, so the biomarker that we're targeting, they're elevating hepcidin in a durable fashion. So you have a consistent elevation of hepcidin, a smooth increase and maintenance of hepcidin levels that clearly is associated with the benefit of the drug versus giving an exogenously administered hormone, which does work, obviously, but has to be given on a regular basis.

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#11

Understood. Maybe now we can, with that background, maybe we shift into some of the data you shared. Phase 2 results from your SanRaco study. We thought they were best-in-class, but maybe you can highlight your thoughts on the data and high level some of the key takeaways there.

Steven Romano

executive
#12

Yes. So I think the results really were terrific. We were very satisfied with that. We got a response rate of close to 90%, so about 88%. And that compared with a placebo response of about 19%, so the placebo-adjusted response was just under 70%. That's a very robust effect. And actually, that is looking at patients, the response criteria was patients who were able to maintain a hematocrit below 45% throughout the period from week 18 to 36, so it was a 36-week study. Patients adjust to their assigned treatment in the first 18 weeks, drug or placebo, and then from 18 weeks to 36 weeks, you evaluate the response. So that 90% response refers to, or nearly 90% response, refers to the percent of patients that were able to maintain their hematocrit below 45% without the need for a phlebotomy. Very, very robust. The interesting thing about this trial is that we looked at two different dose strategies on the active drug. So besides placebo, which a third of the patients received, two-thirds received the drug. But they received the drug at either Q6-week intervals, which was essentially replicating or confirming one of the dose arms that we had in our Phase 1, or they received it at a Q12-week interval. And all patients received 6 mgs per kg, which was the dose we decided was most reasonable to bring forward into Phase 3. So what we did show was that either Q6 weeks or Q12 weeks was actually very effective, similarly so, in achieving that very high level. So very excited about that. And we'll move forward with that 12, you know, every 12-week arm into our Phase 3 program.

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#13

You just put that dosing interval into perspective, Q12 weeks, you mentioned durability versus kind of what maybe is the competitors out there.

Steven Romano

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#14

Yes, so the hepcidin mimetic, of course, is given on a weekly basis, and that's injected subcutaneously. The ASO, which is being developed, [ salibursin ], is given on a monthly basis. That's very typical of the requirements for an antisense oligonucleotide. They tend to be a bit less potent and durable, but [ salibursin ] has already sort of shared their Phase 2 data in a once-a-month injection, a Q4-week injection. Ours, of course, is a Q12-week injection, again, sub-Q. There are compounds behind us, for instance, DISC has a monoclonal antibody that's targeting the same pathway, targeting TMPRSS6, and they are looking, I believe, at both Q2 and Q4-week, and we just heard something about their Q2-week data, and perhaps we'll hear about their Q4 and we can take it at ASH. So we are really sitting in a very enviable position where we have a durable compound that confidently suppresses hematocrit to below 45% and can be given on a quarterly basis, which by the way fits kind of nicely into the way these patients are managed because these patients are seen on a regular basis because in order to maintain, you have to keep a close eye on these patients. So a quarterly dosing strategy would really fit into kind of the routine dosing strategy, manner in which these patients are treated.

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#15

Yes, makes sense. Maybe just back to the Phase 2 data you shared and maybe talk a little bit about the placebo response, what you saw there, and sort of how it compares to your expectations.

Steven Romano

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#16

Yes, so when we powered the study, when we were starting the Phase 2 study, we assumed about a 20% placebo response rate, but we didn't really have a lot to hang our hats on, and we didn't have the Ruspertide Phase 3 data yet, but we also suggested that we would have a very robust effect above that, somewhere in the 40% to 50% range. So I think we were very good at our expectations. This placebo came in around 19%. The effect was higher than we had initially anticipated, but you always plan for a comfortable margin to be sure that the trial is powered appropriately for a good positive outcome. So that was really what we did. Now, Ruspertide showed about a 77% response rate and about a 33% placebo response rate, but naturally that was in a larger population. So when you move from smaller populations, we had 48 patients in our Phase 2 to 200 patients studied, for instance, and I think they enrolled closer to 300. It's not surprising that you get more variability, but they still showed a robust effect. That 44% placebo-adjusted rate obviously was robust and the drug is now approved. Again, we have a close to, you know, a close to 70% placebo-adjusted effect, 69%. So we hope that carries through into Phase 3.

Unknown Speaker

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#17

Makes sense. I know this is a top-line release, but maybe you could just talk about some of the secondary endpoints, kind of hematocrit control, iron.

Steven Romano

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#18

Markers, PROs, things like that, just kind of what you're seeing there. Yes, well, we expect to, we've submitted an abstract to ASH, so hopefully we'll get that accepted, perhaps an oral, which would be great, and we'll be able to go into the details of all the indices of iron indices as well as all the blood indices also show the curves for hemoglobin and hematocrit. We didn't share that in the top-line results, but as anticipated, very similar to what we saw in Phase 1, you see a relatively rapid reduction in hematocrit in the first two to three weeks even, and then that persists in a durable fashion. You see the same thing with hemoglobin, as you would expect. And with hepcidin, which is the biomarker of import, you see an elevation of that hepcidin with a general maintenance of that as well. So all that laboratory, you know, effect that we saw in the Phase 1 that sort of parallels the effectiveness on the clinical side, we're seeing that mirrored in Phase 2. So you'll see more of that. Other secondary outcome measures, as you mentioned, are evaluating symptoms, and we did include a symptom score that's typically used in this disease state and other similar myeloproliferative conditions. And we also have the PROMIS, which is specifically evaluating fatigue. So we'll have that data. We haven't shared any of that, but we'll share that data. Another secondary outcome measure was the rate because in the U.S., the FDA is agreed to a response criteria, as I mentioned. But in the EMA in Europe, they really want to look at a reduction in the rate of phlebotomy. So we showed a very effective and statistically significant effect on that as well, but we'll share all that information in full at the meeting, including the symptom management.

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#19

Great. And maybe you can comment just on what you saw for the safety profile. Yeah. You know, maybe provide a little color on anemia, thrombocytopenia. Yeah. Site reactions.

Steven Romano

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#20

The profile of the drug was very similar to what we saw in Phase 1. We had an independent safety review committee that reviewed the data on a regular basis from the Phase 1 study as well as in the Phase 2. And by the way, the protocol was a combined Phase 1, Phase 2, so we have that view of the safety throughout both of those programs. Yes, you do see an elevation of platelets. This is very typical of restriction of iron to the bone marrow. You get a sort of bias towards the production or a higher production of the megakaryocyte line, which is a platelet line. So you do see an elevation of platelets. It happens relatively quickly over the first few weeks, but then it plateaus. And we saw an increase in the 30% percentage range, not different from the Phase 1, and I think very similar to the profile that you saw with Ruspertide. So again, that same mechanism, very predictably inducing a reactive thrombocytosis. We're not seeing patients' platelet counts go to dangerously high levels, and keep in mind that many of these patients, based on their disease state, will have elevated platelets when they come in. So I think it was simply demonstrating that the drug's mechanism is very similar to what we've seen and produces a similar effect. Naturally, many of these patients have indices in the anemic range when they enter the study because they're heavily phlebotomized and some patients come in with relatively that are generally, obviously all below 45%, but some of them are quite much below that, so you have to be cautious about that. But we only had two adverse events reported as anemia, and these are well-honed investigators, they're hematologists, they understand the condition, and they only reported two that they considered to be clinically significant. We'll review all the data and the laboratory data in time as well. But generally speaking, the tolerability was very good. The concerns around injection that you have with any compound that you inject subcutaneously or intramuscularly, in this case sub-Q. We saw actually very few injection site reactions, actually much fewer than we saw in Phase 1. So I think we feel very confident about the tolerability of the drug. But generally safe and tolerated as it was in Phase 1 with no new safety issues or signals.

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#21

This is a top-line sort of release, but any feedback or you shared the data with some physicians and what kind of feedback.

Steven Romano

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#22

Yes, well naturally we with some of our experts that are advising us, and these are folks that are very familiar with the entire portfolio of products available in development. But yes, we got very encouraging feedback. So, yes, we're very excited. I think people do believe it's potentially a best-in-class compound based on the efficacy we're seeing. I was cautious as a drug developer. You have to wait till you confirm those results in a Phase 3, this is Phase 2, but I think everything's pointing in the direction of having a very, I think, valuable profile for patients and for physicians who manage these patients.

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#23

Understood. I guess maybe just back to Ruspertide and kind of when you think about comparing your data to theirs, I know it's, you know, sort of Phase 2 to a Phase 3, so there's, you know, you've got to be cautious there, but just, you know, key points of differentiation that you think have come out so far you approved.

Steven Romano

executive
#24

Yes, again, I want to be very careful. They have an effective product that's been approved, so that's great, since the first hepcidin-directed that's approved that makes it a little easier for us, for instance, because we know that a drug targeting this mechanism, with this mechanism targeting this pathway, is likely to move in the same direction. And we're very confident also because the types of patients that they enrolled are very, very similar to the patients we enrolled in Phase 1 and Phase 2. So we feel very confident about that. I think obviously that one of the distinctions is convenience, and now convenience is not going to carry the day, efficacy is going to carry the day, but convenience is important because convenience actually can translate into greater compliance in the marketplace. So when you need to have an injection on a weekly basis or any more frequently than we have, there's an opportunity, unfortunately, to miss doses and obviously the control of your symptoms and your condition is going to be affected. I'm really affected by that. With a durable compound, with a mechanism like ours, if confirmed in Phase 3, that's a real advantage. I think the value proposition is not around the infrequent dosing, but the fact that you can confidently, with infrequent dosing, maintain a hematocrit below 45%. And as I mentioned earlier, that's the goal of these patients, their hematocrit below 45% to reduce the likelihood of cardiovascular outcomes.

Unknown Speaker

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#25

I also just wanted to ask about your response definition versus theirs. They used a little bit more of a stringent approach.

Steven Romano

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#26

Or less, sorry, I mixed it up. Yes, well, we really don't have to because we have such a high response criteria. So I don't think we even have folks on the margin that might have moved into the response criteria arm, I mean the response, positive response arm.

Unknown Speaker

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#27

Or less stringent, sorry, I mixed it up. But have you kind of run that analysis, or what do you think would happen if you did? That's right.

Steven Romano

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#28

So no, I think we did a very clean thing. We just said, look, under 45%, if you hit 45% or above, you're a non-responder. If you drop out of the study for any reason, you're a non-responder. So we had very strict criteria. We're looking at that now, Mike, to decide whether we continue to do that in Phase 3 or whether we consider something more akin to what Ruspertide did, which gives you a little bit more flexibility around the margins, if you will. But I think we're so confident in the effect that we're seeing, I'm not sure that's going to make a difference in the end either way.

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#29

Well, you know, if you can remove any. Do you think it's easier to sort of run the study and run the analysis with your sort of response definition? Could that.

Steven Romano

executive
#30

Burden from the investigator, you know, do they have to calculate? I know it seems like a very simple thing, to be honest with you, but having been on that side of things as well in the past, you know, if you've got two or three or four or half a dozen studies running and you have to think of different criteria for each of your studies, anything you can do to make it easier and more convenient, both for the patient and the physician, I think helps. So it may seem like a lot of work. Seem like a minor thing, as long as it doesn't have a meaningful impact in your outcome measure that you're evaluating.

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#31

I wanted to come back to R&D for Tide a little bit. Want to make too many comments there, but any thoughts on just labeling or pricing and kind of what that means for how you.

Steven Romano

executive
#32

You think about? Yes, well, I think their price that they've, you know, obviously negotiated is very much akin to what we had assumed. So if you look at some of the premium price products in this market, the pegylated interferon like Besremi, or the Jakafi compound, they have wax over $200,000 annual. So we had assumed that they would come out perhaps even at a premium to that, and I think they did come out with a slight premium. So I think that underscores at least the economic, you know, sort of proposition, that in an area where you have an orphan condition, where the need is great to have newer therapies, you're going to have a relatively low bar for access and reimbursement, because this is an orphan condition. So I think we feel confident about that. I think one of the best things about the label, again, is the indication, because we're studying really the same population of patients. And although for purposes of clinical trial and operationalizing your population for clinical trial inclusion, et cetera, you know, you go after phlebotomy-dependent patients, you define it in a particular way just to make sure that you have some, you can make generalizations from that population into a label. I think it's great that in fact the label is for erythrocytosis. So it's not saying for phlebotomy-dependent PV patients. It's for erythrocytosis. And that allows an intervention with that drug and hopefully drugs to follow like ours, at really any point in the treatment, you know, sort of algorithm, which is great. So, you know, if you have an elevated hematocrit that you need to control, then hepcidin-directed therapies should be, you know, top of the line based on safety and efficacy.

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#33

Yep. That makes sense. And you mentioned some of the competitors recently too so I guess one maybe we can start with DISC and they just shared some data so kind of your thoughts there and maybe how it compares.

Steven Romano

executive
#34

Yes, so I mean, there are different ways and different mechanisms you can utilize to address this issue. So the monoclonal antibodies are targeting TMPRSS6 as well. That is a very reasonable mechanism to apply to that specific target. I think the issues with and monoclonal antibodies are, can you get to a reasonable timeframe? They demonstrated Q2 weeks and they have Q4 week in their trial, so we'll see. I think it's not likely even with, you know, sort of the ways that you can engineer antibodies and introduce certain mutations to extend their half-life, that you're not likely to get much further than that. So, but, you know, that's a reasonable approach. I think the important thing here is, yes, this is getting to be a very interesting area. Interested in it, but I think the most important thing for us is really to look forward. We're a first-in-class siRNA. The only thing between us and hepcidin, excuse me, the hepcidin mimetic that was approved is [ sotatercept ], and that's an [ AC ]. And I do believe that the siRNA is a more potent mechanism, and based on their Phase 2 data, and I'm always very careful about cross-study comparisons, but based on their Phase 2 data, and they didn't have placebo, so it's hard to sort of just the effect they'll see in a placebo-controlled Phase 3 study, but the efficacy doesn't look to be as good as Ruspertide or as potent as Ruspertide, and clearly our data is very good as well. So I think we need to focus on getting to the market as quickly as possible, and shortening the timeframe essentially behind the completion of a Phase 3, behind [ salibursin ].

Unknown Speaker

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#35

And so I want to get your thoughts on next steps from here. I think you're planning a Phase 3 study and maybe have an end of Phase 2 also planned. Maybe just talk about, you know, that meeting and what the focus is. Is there any like specific question you'd kind of need feedback on to figure out what the design will be or just kind of maybe help us.

Steven Romano

executive
#36

Yes, now fortunately we've. We've had some nice interactions with the agency in preparation for finalizing the Phase 2 study design, and that was all with the anticipating that that would be a supportive trial for the complete submission, so that assuming a single Phase 3, which we believe is obviously the path forward, we've resolved a lot of issues around the definition of the population, the response criteria, et cetera. Obviously we have to tinker with that and confirm it all, but going in I think we feel pretty confident and we just have to secure that agreement. But I think one of the bigger issues is if you look at the effect size of our drug from both Phase 1 and Phase 2, you do not need a very large study to confirm that effect. There's no question, if you're just looking at the primary outcome measure of response and ability to maintain a hematocrit below 45% without the need for phlebotomy, we could do that with a relatively small study. So the question is, how large should our study be? If we want to target some of the subjective responses, always a little trickier, they have greater variance in scoring and responses, you have to build that into your power assumption. One of the other things we have to consider, so that will manage because we've got the Phase 2 data, we'll extrapolate from that Phase 2 data and consider the power assumptions for those important secondary outcome measures in the Phase 3 study. But what we don't know yet is what is the minimum requirement for safety exposure, because if we can do a study less than 250, and I say 250 because that's what Ruspertide set out to do. They over-enrolled to closer to 300. That's what [ salibursin ] is doing. Our assumption is perhaps that's because you need to reach a minimum requirement even for an orphan condition of exposure. So I think that is going to be an important question because that affects the cost of the Phase 3 program, the timing to get it complete, et cetera. So, if we can reduce that Phase 3 study requirement, still meet the objectives both from a regulatory standpoint but from a labeling and commercial standpoint, that would be very, very helpful. So, that I think is one of the bigger issues. The other thing is with any drug in a relatively new class of medicine. You have to just agree on the safety parameters and how you're going to capture that. There's learnings, I'm sure the FDA will apply to us from having just reviewed Ruspertide data in detail, so we'll get that feedback, but we feel pretty confident. The other thing, and I should have mentioned this earlier, is we are moving from a weight-based dosing to a flat dosing. We do have preliminary agreement on how to get there with the agency and we generated some bioavailability data. We're moving to a higher concentration product that will reduce the need for multiple injections down to two for Phase 3 and beyond, and which is great given that they're injecting infrequently, but we also have to prepare for launch. At launch we want to have a PFS, a pre-filled syringe. So having that flat dosing allows us to obviously develop the pre-filled syringe and have that in preparation for the time that we launch the product. So we have to get agreement on those points.

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#37

Yes, got you. I know focus is more on kind of getting the Phase 3 sort of design locked in and started, but I guess like longer term, you know, commercially, is this something you might decide to launch on your own?

Steven Romano

executive
#38

Or sort of what, well, we have a lot of thinking to do with regards to that. So right now, we certainly can go ahead with the development. We've got the funding, of course, that we brought in, over $201 million following the results of the Phase 2, so we can fund the study through to top-line results. But, you know, we're not a commercial company right now. And obviously we'd consider a real investment of potential opportunities based on the economics.

Unknown Speaker

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#39

Yep, understood. Maybe you want to touch on some of your pipeline assets. I know the focus is more Divesiran, but there's quite a number there. So if you want to just give a quick preview.

Steven Romano

executive
#40

No, thank you. So we are a pipeline company, and we have several products in the pipeline. We are having returned to us from AZ 312. AZ 312 is an ANGPTL3 compound. So it's targeting a non-LDL receptor dependent means of reducing LDL. LDL and other atherogenic lipid components. So that has completed Phase 1 with AZ. The decision to return it was not the data. The data looked great. And in fact, AZ has been presenting that data at lipid and cardiovascular meetings since mid-summer. But strategically, they decided not to move that into Phase 2. Come back to us. That's an interesting compound. We also have a GPR-146, which is a novel compound, first-in-class, that is also targeting a non-LDL receptor-dependent means of reducing the production of very low-density lipid proteins (VLDL). So there is an opportunity potentially even to consider those in combination. There is some preclinical data that's been completed by an academic site in Europe that demonstrated sort of the synergy between the two. And that could be a very interesting area for us, moving away from, because our focus really is in rare and orphan conditions, given the size of our company, I would be very reasonable to consider either of those for a condition such as homozygous FH. The other compound we have is an Inhibin compound. So this is a very interesting class of medicines, the genetic and genetic data support a reduction in cardiovascular risk factors in these patients. It's currently, you know, in the clinic. Wave has a compound in the clinic. Arrowhead has a compound in the clinic. And, I think the issue here is determining in what population is it best suited. I don't think it's going to be utilized purely in the management of obesity that we have for weight loss per se are very potent, but they do have issues. There's Achilles' heel, like for instance, with the incretins. You lose a lot of weight, but a good portion of that weight loss is actually lean muscle mass. And Inhibin actually can redistribute, or I should say change the body composition so you reduce fat in the places that are most dangerous, visceral fat, hepatic fat, and you retain skeletal muscle, so you retain lean muscle. So whether it's going to be used in a combination with incretins, whether it's to use to minimize weight regain in patients that go off the GLP-1 class, whether it's used in a group of obese patients at metabolic risk. So that is a complicated space that needs to be figured out. We're not likely to bring that product into full development. Those are large studies. But we did just generate preclinical data in a proof-of-concept murine model, mouse model, that showed a very competitive profile to the same data sets that are produced by Arrowhead. So that compound is, both of those compounds GPR-146 and Inhibin can actually reach IND by end of next year if we prioritize those for investment going forward.

Unknown Speaker

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#41

Complement Factor B program?

Steven Romano

executive
#42

Yes, Complement Factor, yes. So we have a compound that has a very competitive program. It is Phase 1 ready, but again, it's going to be part of the portfolio we now have to reprioritize, or I should say prioritize, now that we've got funding to get us through to the top-line results of Phase 3. Look at the cost of that study will determine where we want to really spend our money with regards to, you know, prioritizing some of these compounds. It could be through collaborations. It could be on our own.

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#43

Yep.

Steven Romano

executive
#44

The other thing I want to say is we're also focused on extrahepatic.

Unknown Speaker

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#45

Yep.

Steven Romano

executive
#46

So we have a substantial effort targeting, you know, other cell and tissue types besides hepatocytes, and we've had some very good preclinical sort of, you know, work ongoing, and we haven't shared all that data, but we're also entering certain collaborations that could expand that effort as well.

Unknown Speaker

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#47

In time probably in the new year we'll be able to talk more about that. Got you and maybe we got one minute left yes maybe I'll squeeze one more question in here just you know CEO search just kind of updates their thinking on that.

Steven Romano

executive
#48

Yes, so absolutely, I mean, we have been looking for a CEO. I think we got a little bit too close to the Phase 2 data and the funding requirements. So I think now we're in a much better position. We've got the funding for the Phase 3 program, our lead compound, and obviously we've got great results. So I think that will attract a number of candidates that will really help us and hopefully have a CEO in place by end of year. That's our chairman and our organization's intent.

Unknown Speaker

unknown
#49

Thank you, Mike. Thank you. Okay, great. So we're out of time. Why don't we end it there? Steve, thanks so much. Appreciate it.

Steven Romano

executive
#50

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