SmartCentres Real Estate Investment Trust (SRUUN) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
August 7, 2026
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Operator
operatorGood day, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the SmartCentres REIT Q2 2026 Conference Call. I would like to introduce Mr. Peter Slan. Please go ahead.
Peter Slan
executiveThank you, operator, and good morning, everyone. Welcome to SmartCentres' Second Quarter 2026 Results Call. I'm Peter Slan, Chief Financial Officer. And as in prior quarters, I'm joined on today's call by Mitch Goldhar, Executive Chair and CEO; and by Rudy Gobin, our Chief Portfolio and Asset Management Officer. We'll begin today's call with some comments from Mitch. Rudy will then provide some operational highlights, and I will review our financial results. We will then be pleased to take your questions. Just before I turn the call over to Mitch, I would like to refer you specifically to the cautionary language about forward-looking information, which can be found at the front of our MD&A. This also applies to comments that any of the speakers make today. Mitch, over to you.
Mitchell Goldhar
executiveThank you, Peter. Good morning, and welcome, everyone. I will be brief so we can get to your questions. Q2 was very solid in all categories. Here are a few examples. The SmartCentres portfolio delivered on same-property NOI growth at 2.6% for the quarter or 4.4% ex Anchors. Occupancy grew to 98.1% for in-place and committed deals. Rental lists were up 12%, excluding anchors on lease extensions. Leases have been executed at higher rents in 4 of the 6 ex Toys locations, 3 of which we completed by the quarter end and 1 shortly thereafter. And 86% of 2026 maturing leases were executed by the end of Q2. Our 200,000 square foot flagship Canadian Tire store in Leeside/Rosevale is on track and near completion with turnover expected in the next few months. All in all, the portfolio continues to show its strength. This includes commitments by many of our major retailers to expand their store count in our existing portfolio as well as in our retail expansion program. In that regard, we will continue to stay on strategy expanding our retail portfolio around our major retailers' growth needs like Walmart, Loblaws and Costco. This expansion program continues to move forward step by step with specific projects and details to be made available in the months ahead. Stay tuned. At the corporate level, we continue to carefully manage our balance sheet, debt and related metrics. We've also taken steps to insulate ourselves from potential interest rate increases with 88% of our debt being at fixed rates. And with that, I will pass the call over to Rudy for some more operational highlights. Rudy?
Rudy Gobin
executiveThanks, Mitch, and good morning, everyone. Q2 gained further ground from the likes of grocers, TJX banners, pharmacy, dollar stores, banks and more, leading to the signing of nearly 0.25 million square feet of leases in the quarter. Occupancy returned to above 98% with 4 of the 6 ex Toys boxes locations being leased. And as Mitch mentioned, operationally, the portfolio is strong, absorbing some of the best retailers in the country, replacing low rent-paying toys locations. And if you recall, typically visited twice to 3 times a year by customers compared with weekly visits for food and pharmacy and dollar stores, which will not only provide a much stronger covenant, but will also drive higher rents for the vacated units. The higher customer traffic will also drive higher sales for all other tenants within the centers, which then drives higher future rents on renewals and further same-property NOI growth. The ripple effect is immediate and impacts the entire property for years to come. This resiliency is also reflected in the 86% of the 2026 lease maturities already completed by Q2 with a rental lift of 6.6% all in or 12% ex anchors. Turning to cash flow. Cash collection remained strong at 99% in the quarter. And lastly, our Toronto and Montreal Premiu Premium Outlets remain at 99%, actually closer to 100% leased and continue to excel in driving traffic with improving tenant sales and advantage rent. And our premium outlook remains ranked in the top 3 in sales in this country. And land expansion for near 100,000 square feet is now scheduled to start construction in Q4 with average rents in the triple digits. Overall, we see continuation of all of this momentum into the second half of the year. Thank you, and I'll now turn it over to Peter. Peter?
Peter Slan
executiveThanks, Rudy. As you've seen in our release, the FFO this quarter was unchanged from the comparable period last year at $0.58 per unit. FFO with adjustments, which excludes the townhome profits, transactional gains and losses and the term swap, was $0.54 per unit compared to $0.55 for the same period in 2025. The year-over-year decrease was primarily driven by higher interest expense and administrative expenses to the [indiscernible] incentive plan, partially offset by growth in [indiscernible]. We again maintained our distribution during the quarter at an annualized rate of $1.85 per unit. The payout ratio to AFFO remained stable at 90.5% for the rolling 12 months ended June 30, 2026. Adjusted debt to adjusted EBITDA was 9.8x, unchanged in the previous quarter. The weighted average term to maturity, including debt on equity accounted investments, was 2.9 years. From a liquidity perspective, we remain very comfortable with our current liquidity position. We recently extended our corporate revolver for an additional 2 years to 2031. As of June 30, 2026, we have approximately $715 million in both cash on hand and undrawn credit facilities but excludes any accordion features. Including the accordion, we have $965 million. During the quarter, we also recorded a fair value loss on our investment properties portfolio of $196.2 million. This adjustment was mainly attributable to the deferral of development activities for certain properties under development, offset by some modest discount rate changes in our income-producing portfolio. With the recent fix use price, we unwound the remaining total return swap during the quarter and repaid the associated TRS debt. As a result, Q2 will be the last quarter that we report a TRS adjustment to our FFO other than for comparable periods. We realized a modest gain on the online transaction. And looking back over the 4 years since we initiated the swap, it generated a meaningful return to the REIT. As in previous quarters, we have updated our MD&A disclosure, focusing on those development projects which are currently under construction. As you will see on Page 17, there were 9 projects under construction at the end of Q2 and an increase of 1% from last quarter. The Vaughan Northwest townhomes were completed and removed from list, and 2 additional projects were added. One is a self-storage project in Edmonton, and the other is a 65-unit rental apartment project in the [ Art Walk ] block in the Vaughan Metropolitan Center. And with that, we would be pleased to take your questions. Operator?
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] The first question is from Lorne Kalmar from Desjardins Capital Markets.
Lorne Kalmar
analystJust wondering, you mentioned starting some new development. Obviously, like there's going to be a kick off here on the retail side in a more meaningful way. How high are you comfortable taking developments as a percentage of asset value? Hello?
Unknown Executive
executiveYes, sorry. [indiscernible] question. No, we're at 12%. And the development that we're referring to is low rise, like single story, with a great parking for the most part. So we -- it's not difficult to manage because the rents commitment on these developments within like over a year from commencement of construction. So we're comfortable with where things are, might fluctuate up and down just because some quarters and some years, we might be developing a little bit more. But as I said, we think within a year, the rents kick in. So it's not like density where it will be in debt for years and years before we see the income.
Lorne Kalmar
analystFair enough. Just confirming, you said you guys are at 12% of development -- of 12% of asset value right now?
Mitchell Goldhar
executiveYes, that's right, 12.5% or so.
Lorne Kalmar
analystOkay. Perfect. And then this one is a little bit ticky tacky, but just noticed tenant receivables have climbed up quite sort of modestly quarter-over-quarter, but now you're kind of at levels you were at in December of 2020. ECL provision is still below. But just wondering if you could give us an idea of behind that, if there's anything really to read into there?
Rudy Gobin
executiveIt's Rudy. No, that's just seasonal with normal expenses we are incurring on the property. ECL was not, as you mentioned, was not unusual for the quarter. So nothing unusual in that category. And the extent that the ECL that we booked in the first quarter have not been -- sorry, not the ECL, the receivables in the quarter, offset by the ECL, we have not adjusted that yet. So you're seeing both grow. At some point, when we remove it, the receivables will disappear and the ECL will disappear.
Peter Slan
executiveLorne, I would just add -- it's Peter. I would just add that collections remain very, very high. And so nothing from an aging perspective on those receivables to be worried about.
Rudy Gobin
executiveAnd in fact, we were -- in the last, I don't know, 3, 4, 5 quarters, we were at 99%. We were over 99% in Q2 from our collections from our tenants' perspective.
Lorne Kalmar
analystYes. Okay. So it should slowly start to trend down then?
Rudy Gobin
executiveYes. Yes.
Operator
operatorThe question is from Mario Saric from Scotia Capital.
Mario Saric
analystJust on the capital allocation side. With the wind up of the TRS swap, does that change how you think about allocating capital? The units are still trading at about a 20% discount, give or take, to your IFRS fair value. Just curious in terms of how it changes anything, if at all?
Mitchell Goldhar
executiveFrom the point of view of buying back units, we don't have [indiscernible]. That's for sure.
Mario Saric
analystYes. Okay.
Mitchell Goldhar
executiveIt's public. I buy units fairly often. We're not suggesting it's not a good price. But at the moment, we really does not have any plans to buy back stock, yes.
Mario Saric
analystOkay. And then just conversely, with respect to the balance sheet and asset sales. Can you give us an update in terms of your conviction level and getting something done on the disposition side in '26? And whether kind of that $200 million to $300 million disposition pipeline over the next 2 to 3 years is still intact?
Mitchell Goldhar
executiveVery much so, I mean, things, I'd say, they move all over the place. 1 week to the next, the more [indiscernible] are slowly competing on that front. I mean not so much that the economy is pumping or anything. It's just that I think people are just scaling a little bit. They have more visibility on period for goodwill, and that some people are back in the market. Some sectors are starting to get in the mood. So we are talking to [indiscernible], but nothing at the moment worthy of announcing, but we are very much committed to that level of positions.
Mario Saric
analystOkay. And then just switching over to operations. You've done a really good job of retenanting or releasing for the Toys"R"Us, I think it was an expected 25% higher net rent as well. Can you just maybe give us a sense of the cadence of getting the other -- the remaining 2 leased up.
Mitchell Goldhar
executiveWe have interest in both, some very interesting -- strong interest in one of them, real upgrade and improvement. And the other one, good interest in. So we're pretty optimistic about that. Any other?
Peter Slan
executiveYes. No, I would just say the uses that we're looking at will be, again, as I mentioned for the first quarter, better covenants, higher tropic generation, higher traffic for all the other tenants in the shopping center as well. So I think it will be very much a big step-up from the traffic that the toys generated on-site.
Mario Saric
analystGot it. And is the expected rent commencement on the 4 that have been leased, is it still potentially in Q4 '26? Or is that more of a '27 event? And do you think that the other 2 could be reproduced in 2027 as well?
Rudy Gobin
executiveThe 2 that are under negotiation will probably be very likely be 2027 rent commencements.
Peter Slan
executiveFor [indiscernible] the summer in Q4 and maybe 1 call that may push into the early year depending on renovation to the space. But that's really soon.
Operator
operatorThe next question is from Sam Damiani from TD Securities. .
Sam Damiani
analystJust on the fair value loss taken on the land, was that a reflection of any ongoing discussions on dispositions of any parcels? Or is that just as you guys made independent of any...
Mitchell Goldhar
executiveNo, no. It wasn't based on a negotiation. It was just based on appropriate our feeling at this point that a variety of reasons that those were not reflecting accurately the value at this time. So no, it's not -- those were not based on a negotiation.. .
Sam Damiani
analystOkay. And the fair value loss was -- I'm sure it was reflective of a number of parcels. But was the bulk of it concentrated in just maybe 2 parcels? Really, how concentrated was that total provision in Q2?
Mitchell Goldhar
executiveYes. I mean, it's -- no, it's from probably in the past, where we had focused our attention for potential high rise. And so it's sort of across half a dozen properties or more, whereby we are imminently going to do the high-rise developmentWe think it's like -- yes, we just don't think it's imminent. So I thought it was prudent to make the adjustment, but it's not 2 properties.
Sam Damiani
analystOkay. Is there -- do you see any green shoots in the market -- action market for residential [indiscernible]?
Mitchell Goldhar
executiveSay one more time. Sorry?
Sam Damiani
analystYes, I was just asking, with the big 4 transaction market for residential land, are you seeing any signs of it potentially improving in the near term?
Mitchell Goldhar
executiveIt's really, at the moment, I'd say we're at the sort of moment of truth. Sometimes it will be clearer in the next a little bit like -- but there have been transactions. And so whereas a year ago, there were no transactions. So there are transactions. And the question is, I guess, does it gain momentum, and that sort of, I guess, depends on some of the macro economic issues and how people feel. But there's still a lot of people out there in the business both privately and institutionally that have the capacity to buy and to think long term -- medium, long term. So some of them are buying, not many, but at least there's some, and we're sort of waiting and watching to see if it picks up. So it will be interesting in the next 6 months will probably tell the tail or certainly clarify. But it feels like there'll be some transactions. If you ask me, intuitively, I think there's going to be -- start to be some transactions in the next year.
Sam Damiani
analystOkay. Great. And last one for me, just Mitch, your comments at the annual meeting about getting up to sort of a cadence of 3 shopping center deliveries or need under construction and annual. How would you see the buildup to that piece in FY 2027?
Mitchell Goldhar
executiveYes. I think that's still the case. I mean things are moving along with respect to the new retail sites, developments around various anchors in new markets across the country. And I think that, that would be a fair number to use as a placeholder for now, maybe arguably on the conservative side. But getting started is there's always lots of obstacles to getting started. But I think in terms of what we're planning, if things go smoothly, I think that's fairly [indiscernible] them.
Operator
operatorThe next question is from Pammi Bir from RBC Capital Markets.
Pammi Bir
analystI just wanted to come back to the TPO expansion. What can you maybe share in terms of where we see is -- at this stage? I'm just curious, are you seeing any demand from tenants that are necessarily -- type tenants just given that there's really not been much new supply out there?
Mitchell Goldhar
executiveWell, first of all, Simon does the leasing. And by the way, they are really, really good at those centers. So they really make us look at -- and this is obviously a bit about Wonder Child outlet center. So the leasing is going very well, but it's a different type of leasing program than normal. Rudy, you want to give some additional colors?
Rudy Gobin
executiveSure. As I mentioned just a few minutes ago, the rents are in the triple digits. And you know the tenants that are in the [indiscernible] and the sort of the value of the center. What we found was some tenants that are in center, the very strong tenants are asking to get bigger and move into the expansion area. And some other tenants are also looking to fill other spaces. So net-net, we're about 50% leased and plan to be over that by the time we hit the construction commencement in Q4 of this year. So things are going well. And you remember, there's a parking deck that we're building with over 1,200 spots in that parking deck. It will displace some of the surface parking. But net-net, it's going to be, I think, 600 or 700 new parking spots with the new GLA that's coming on street.
Mitchell Goldhar
executiveI wanted to add, though, that they don't try to pre-lease at all. That's what I mean by it's different, like they do want to stage at least. The interest is very strong. So hence why we're expanding. And the big rents there, I mean, the tenants do huge volumes and may -- are doing -- are very successful there, although the rents are pretty high relative to rents in retail, but it's just -- it's own thing. So everyone is pretty happy with TPL.
Pammi Bir
analystAny change to that? I think you previously cited a target of north of 8%. Any upside to that based on what you've done today? Or what they've done today.
Mitchell Goldhar
executiveYes, we're above 8%, but we always try and be conservative with our -- such things. So yes, we're pretty comfortable with above 8% for now.
Pammi Bir
analystOkay. Just last one for me. Coming back to the development write-downs. I think we've seen these targets now for a couple of years in a row. You get a comfort that the valuations that you're using now are more reasonable or that they've bottomed out. .
Mitchell Goldhar
executiveWell, that's a good question. First of all, I guess part of the write-down goes towards the value, but some of it may be partly attributable to what we think, we might be able to develop in terms of the amount of density. But in terms of value for [indiscernible], I'd say, again -- I don't want to jinx the market. But I would say that it does feel like it's bottomed out. I'd say it's a little bit better than it was a year ago. So I guess, by definition, it's [indiscernible] starting to improve. So yes, in terms of what -- but what one might pay for density, [indiscernible].
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] The next question is from Dean Wilkinson, CIBC World Markets.
Dean Wilkinson
analystJust going back to the TRS and your comments around that. And first, I think we all thank you for unwinding that. Should we read into that, that your preference for, say, the next dollar or dollars spent would be advancing the current development pipeline then debt than buying back units? And in fact, that is the correct order, what would cause you to maybe change your view on sort of where you're going to put the next incremental dollars?
Mitchell Goldhar
executiveI mean, that's more of a discussion, I think, a longer discussion. But we see the development as being accretive. I mean we're not -- this is not like speculative development. We're going into each one of the new developments with an acre tenant, so with a lease pre-leased substantial portion of the square footage. So there's a year of construction for this type of thing. And we're in debt for that year, but then we're collecting rent for the next 20, 30 years, and it's accretive. So we see that as being a very use of our balance sheet. Having said that, of course, simultaneously, we would keep an eye on our debt levels. And if we were to made any major transactions of a disposition variety or whatever that would go towards lowering debt. But in de facto, it would go -- some that might go back into the development program, all while keeping an eye on various metrics. So like when we lower debt, it just gives us room to do ever that we think is in the best interest of the unitholders always subject to debt [indiscernible]. So kind of they're intricately weave together those things. But development is a great opportunity for us because that is something within our expertise and relationships and Intel. So it's accretive. We want to make the most of that. That's really the ultimate driver of significant material growth. It's not raising rents and praying for lower interest rates and whatever else we can do on the margins, like this is a robust kind of growth that we're talking about. So that is, of course, a priority, yes.
Dean Wilkinson
analystYes. Okay. You've been consistent on that for decades. So I didn't expect that to change.
Operator
operatorThere are no further questions in the queue.
Mitchell Goldhar
executiveOkay. Well, thank you for participating in our Q2 call. Please feel free to reach out to any of us if you have any further questions. Have a great rest of your day and weekend. Thanks.
Operator
operatorLadies and gentlemen, this concludes SmartCentres REIT Q2 2026 Conference Call. Thank you for your participation, and have a nice day.
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