Solar A/S (SOLARB) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

August 13, 2026

CPSE DK Industrials Trading Companies and Distributors earnings 28 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Solar A/S Q2 Report 2026 Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, CEO, Jens Andersen. Please go ahead.

Jens Andersen

executive
#2

Thank you. Welcome to you all to our second Q conference call. Please go to the first slide. Let me provide a brief update on our key strategic priorities and the progress we have made during the period. Starting with Norway. We successfully completed the integration of Sonepar Norge in the second quarter of 2026. The integration has proceeded according to plan and represents an important milestone for the whole Solar Group. Our focus is now on realizing the operational benefits from the combination, strengthening our market position and ensuring that customers and employees continue to experience a seamless transition. Turning to Kumla. The logistics center has now been commissionized and is fully operational. More broadly, Kumla marks the completion of a significant investment cycle over our logistics network in the core business. That has taken some years and we have heavily invested and expanded and modernized our automation of our warehouses facilities across our Nordic markets. With these projects now largely completed, we have established a modern and scalable logistics platform that supports both future growth and hopefully also improved customer service. As we move forward, the focus shifts from construction and implementation to capturing the benefits through higher productivity, greater efficiency and stronger return on the huge investments we have made. On the digital side, we have initiated the rollout of a new customer-facing platform. The platform has successfully been launched in our smallest entity and that is on the Faroe Islands just to experience all things equal. And we have so far seen a valuable experience and the feedback we got from the customers has been very promising. We are also progressing the next phase of integration, including the implementation of a new search engine on the existing platform. These initiatives are aimed at improving the customer experience, increase our digital engagement, which are already high and making it easier for customers to do business with Solar. Finally, a few comments on what we see in the market at the moment. We are seeing early signs of improvement in installation activities, which is encouraging. However, market conditions remain soft across much of the industry and visible on timing of a broader recovery remains a little bit unclear and limited. The main expectation continues to be MAG45, where activity levels remain relatively robust. At the same time, trade continues to show positive momentum, supported by several large-scale projects opportunities across the region. Overall, while we remain cautious about the near-term market outlook, we continue to execute on strategic initiatives within our control. Last but not least, I will tell we have now strengthened our operational platform, advanced our digital capabilities and completed several important investments that position us very well in the market and the coming years. I will now give the word to Michael for some financial highlights and our guidance. Please, Michael?

Michael Jeppesen

executive
#3

Thank you, Jens. Please turn to Page #5. If we take one step back and look at the period we've been, in 2024, we were in an upward trend that gradually moved us into positive territory and this continued into Q1 2025, which you can show in the figure -- which you can see in the figure, where we hit plus 6.5% in organic growth. The remaining part of 2025 was headwind with minus 6.1% in Q4. This gradually turned in Q1 with minus 4.2%, partly due to the harsh winter condition, which mainly was an issue in Norway and Denmark. The turning point was the start of March and this has continued throughout Q2 as expected, which now delivered strong organic growth of 6.1% when adjusted for a number of working days. This resulted in a revenue of DKK 3.4 billion versus DKK 3 billion the previous year. Now please notice that the acquisition of Sonepar in Norway added almost DKK 200 million in revenue in the quarter. If you look at the growth, we saw positive growth in all main segments and in all main markets. Installation, particularly Sweden and Poland, delivered strong growth with the latter delivering strong double-digit growth. Within the industry, Denmark was the only one who was below last year. So if we take a closer look at this, infrastructure remains challenged, whereas as expected, MRO OEM were more stagnant. We still believe that over time, infrastructure will improve. But currently, the main part of the investments are within high voltage, which to a very large extent, is direct business between the grid owner and the manufacturer of cables. As we gradually move on, we will also benefit from the huge investments that are coming through. In Norway, we also saw a stagnant development with infrastructure and Marine & Offshore. MAG45, as Jens said returned to growth, actually slightly earlier than we initially expected. And we can see that the order pipeline continues to increase, which gives us confidence that the growth will continue throughout H2. Now please turn to Page #6. Now an EBITDA of DKK 85 million -- DKK 84 million, sorry, Q2 was in line with our expectation. Integration and restructuring costs amounted to DKK 38 million, which was also as expected. So if we compare the underlying EBITDA, it's DKK 122 million, which is slightly above what we saw last year. If you look at the figure, you can see that COGS had a decrease of 1.2% on the margin compared to last year, and this is despite the cyclic inventory gains of approximately DKK 20 million. Of the 1.2%, approximately 25% can be explained by increasing cost to freight due to the increasing fuel cost and we have not been able, as expected, to pass this fully on to the market. The drop we see is spread across market segments and subsegments. It is our assessment, therefore, that there is a fierce competition in the market, but we also see a minor negative effect from the mix with more low-margin customers, particularly also within projects coming through. Cost initiatives the last couple of years, of course, combined with the growth has ensured that staff costs actually had a positive impact on the margin. As in previous quarters, we can see that loss on trade receivables remains well under control. Now please turn to Page 7. We take a short look at H1. Then underlying EBITDA of DKK 212 million, we came out slightly below last year at DKK 243 million. A substantial part of this can be explained by the harsh winter conditions we saw in Q1, where particularly in Norway and Denmark were very hard hit. The loss of gross margin was also on the half year substantial as we announced when we gave our guidance despite these additional cyclic inventory gains that we've seen here in Q2. Now despite the headwind we saw in Q1, we managed to catch up in Q2, enabled us to deliver a total organic growth of 0.8%. However, we've not been able quite to catch up with the earnings that we lost in Q1, meaning that if you look at H2, we remain slightly below the midrange of our guidance as regards earnings. Now please turn to Page #8. Now operating activities came out with minus DKK 267 million. If we take a closer look at it, we can see that there is an increase in inventory, meaning that we have not normalized inventory. Now this is, as announced due to the fact that we did additional purchases in Q2 in order to counter the price increases that we saw. We decided to accelerate this further compared to our initial expectations. We see the benefit from this that we have been able to now raise our expectations from DKK 20 million to DKK 40 million in cyclic inventory gains. We, of course, expect the inventory to normalize during H2. If we look at the receivables, we also see an increase and it's simply due to a very strong June compared to March. Short on the investing activities, we spent DKK 79 million, of which the DKK 39 million is PPE. Of this, the main part, DKK 26 million relates to Kumla, meaning that there remains between DKK 20 million to DKK 25 million, and then we are done with the investments in Kumla. Now please turn to Page #9. If you look at the net working capital, we also see a trend shift, and it started to increase here in Q4. We think this is temporary. We ended on 17.7% versus 15.1% last year. The inventory being a main part of the explanation, which is approximately DKK 250 million higher. And again, bear in mind, this is not a coincidence. It is based on a decision that we have made in order to counter the price increases. If you look at the gearing consequence of this, combined with the investment is that we now see an increase to 5.1%. This is still within our covenants, but of course, it's outside our range. This was expected and the drivers being net working capital, which will normalize over the year than the H2 and similar investments. We expect investments to come down substantially here in H2 now to a normal level, and thereby, the game will start to reduce from now on. Please turn to Page #10. Now normally, we deal with macroeconomic uncertainty, but the environment we're operating in now also contains geopolitical uncertainty, and we've not really seen any relief of this during 2026. In our most likely scenario, meaning the midrange, we still expect all our markets to post stagnant growth with installation being slightly more positive and industry slightly more negative, MAG being excluded from this. So our outlook reflects a continued decline in gross margin, mainly driven by the pressure of sale prices. So despite the cycling inventory gains, which we have increased now to DKK 40 million, we do not expect this to wear off. We expect the development we saw in Q2 to continue, meaning that the gains are offset by the competition within the market. We reconfirm our revenue guidance between DKK 12.9 billion and DKK 13.4 billion, which is equal to an organic growth in the range of approximately minus 1.5% to plus 3.5%. And also our EBITDA, we reconfirm to a range of DKK 400 million to DKK 480 million and still approximately DKK 75 million in restructuring and integration costs. As said before, this is a transition year mainly in Norway. And since we're now in all material aspects are done with the integration, we'll gradually doing it to start to see the benefits of the acquisition that we did in Norway, where we expect that it will strengthen the margin for the group going forward. Thank you.

Jens Andersen

executive
#4

Thank you, Michael. So now it's time for questions. So please, if you have any.

Operator

operator
#5

[Operator Instructions] We will now take the first question from the line of Kristian Tornøe from SEB.

Kristian Tornøe Johansen

analyst
#6

Yes. A couple of questions from me. So it seems that your key headache here is the gross margin and this price pressure you referred to. However, I cannot help thinking that now that you are showing decent growth and continued gross margin pressure that you might contribute to this price pressure yourself. Is there an element of that, that you are accepting lower prices to gain volumes?

Jens Andersen

executive
#7

I think it's a fair point that we are part of the problem, but hopefully also a part of the solution. In other aspects, we also have a lot of projects going on at the moment. And that, of course, also put a pressure on the margin. But meanwhile, also that the freight costs are really a heavy burden, I think that goes for all in our industry at the moment. So -- but it's a fair point that we are part of the problem, at least for a moment.

Kristian Tornøe Johansen

analyst
#8

And you said you're also part of the solution. So how will you get the gross margin up? And maybe firstly, am I correct in interpreting your guidance that you don't expect the gross margin to improve in the second half of the year? And then longer term, how should we expect that you can improve this?

Michael Jeppesen

executive
#9

So short term, we don't expect any substantial improvement on the margin. And what we can see is also that the price increases that we see from the suppliers, it takes some time to put them into the market. I think if we compare to the situation in 2022, where we also had substantial gains on our inventory, the situation were different. There was simply a shortage then and a high demand that drove up the price increases. What we see is the driver of the price increases here is cost, it's energy basically. And at the same time, the demand is much softer. So there seems to be -- and at least what we've seen so far is that people, including us, tend to sell out what we have on the shelves at the old prices that we bought to basically. And first, when you kind of run out of it, then you start to increase prices. This is also why these gains kind of end up in the market to a large extent. So I would say I would still expect a gradually improvement of the margin, but don't expect any miracles, not short term at least.

Kristian Tornøe Johansen

analyst
#10

Fair enough. And then just some clarification. So the DKK 38 million in nonrecurring items in the quarter, they all sit in the non-allocated segment. Is that correct?

Michael Jeppesen

executive
#11

Yes, fully correct. It's a lot of the segment note.

Jens Andersen

executive
#12

Yes.

Kristian Tornøe Johansen

analyst
#13

So if I take DKK 38 million out of that segment, you are at DKK 215 million. Is that the real underlying number? Is that -- I mean, what we should then work with going forward?

Michael Jeppesen

executive
#14

To some, it's a bit more tricky than that because -- you have all the costs from Sonepar coming in. And the integration didn't happen overnight. It's a gradual process where we are reducing the number of people in total, not just Sonepar, also Solar people goes without saying. So -- and here, we're talking about people who are in other lines in the segment reporting, people at the central warehouse, for instance, who closed down the central warehouse in [ Halmstad ], but these people were reported as handling costs, but they are out now and they've been that since I think the cleanup was finalized in June. So it's not completely true as such. You have to wait until you get to H2 actually, basically.

Jens Andersen

executive
#15

Yes, you have the full year effect.

Michael Jeppesen

executive
#16

Then you start to see a more correct picture of the running rate.

Kristian Tornøe Johansen

analyst
#17

But just to clarify, so what you're alluding to, that's the synergies essentially the savings. Will they also impact – will they impact the nonallocated segment? Or will they be...

Michael Jeppesen

executive
#18

To some extent, because you also have overhead that has been reduced that were in Sonepar. It's clear when you add 2 companies together, merge them, you don't need 2 of everything, which also goes for the overhead cost. So they are also impacted by it.

Kristian Tornøe Johansen

analyst
#19

Fair enough. And then just the initiative on this customer-facing platform. You've launched in the Faroe Islands, which is obviously a fairly small market. So when you sort of go to the next phase and roll this out in larger markets, should we expect that to sort of drive elevated cost again? Or maybe just help me, I mean, put perspective on the cost of that.

Michael Jeppesen

executive
#20

I think it's more a question of bringing us on par or above where our competitors are. It holds some clear advantages compared to where are today, but I think it's difficult to put an exact figure on it, what we benefit from it. It gives us some opportunities, but it will be early days. And regardless, you will not see any impact this year that...

Jens Andersen

executive
#21

Not at all, no.

Michael Jeppesen

executive
#22

If we might have some more data, we can disclose when it come up next year. But right now, it's simply too early days. And we cannot use the Faroe Islands you clearly pointed out, it's a very small area. But there are some good impact from it, but the figures is simply too small for that we dare use them as a basis. So we need more transparency before we can share anything with you.

Kristian Tornøe Johansen

analyst
#23

Fair enough. I was equally thinking sort of implementation costs. So should you roll this out in say, the Danish market, should we expect a quarter or 2 with elevated cost as a consequence?

Michael Jeppesen

executive
#24

No.

Jens Andersen

executive
#25

No. We already have taken a part of it. So I don't expect that.

Kristian Tornøe Johansen

analyst
#26

Fair enough. So obviously, what I'm with several questions trying to get at is that Q3 should be a fairly clean sheet and going forward.

Jens Andersen

executive
#27

Close to. Q4 should be.

Michael Jeppesen

executive
#28

Q4 should be. Q3, we still have a minor cleanup activities in Norway and also we need to clean up the old central warehouse. So that's -- but it's...

Jens Andersen

executive
#29

But within a few months, it's done.

Michael Jeppesen

executive
#30

Yes.

Kristian Tornøe Johansen

analyst
#31

All right. Sounds good. And then just my last question here goes to your net working capital and financial gearing. Where do you expect that to go at the end of the year?

Michael Jeppesen

executive
#32

If we do a 10,000 foot -- we take a 10,000-foot look at this. We have like -- I think it's DKK 2.3 billion in debt right now. We expect inventory to normalize that you bring in at least DKK 250 million. You'll have a seasonal effect between DKK 300 million to DKK 400 million, say, for the sake of a rationale DKK 350 million. The P&L will bring in, but there's some money as well. But there's also going to be some investment still. It's not like it's going to be 0. So that's going to bring in, I don't know, DKK 100 million, DKK 150 million, I would say-ish. That will bring the debt down to around DKK 1.6 billion, which equals like, I think, 3.5, something like that.

Jens Andersen

executive
#33

So we're still a little bit above.

Michael Jeppesen

executive
#34

Still slightly above. But I think -- I mean, this is a very high-level guesstimate based on what we have disclosed and what you know if you've been looking at Solar sometimes, you'll end up around 3.5, I think it's a fair guess.

Kristian Tornøe Johansen

analyst
#35

That makes sense. And I guess that also means that in terms of you to start sort of increasing the payout to shareholders, we probably need to wait another year.

Michael Jeppesen

executive
#36

I think that will be -- it's a Board decision, and this will be based, of course, not only on the historic development, but also on the expectations for 2027. So it's way too early to make any clear assessments. But of course, you will not see payout ratios of what you saw in '22, '23 and '24, but let's see.

Operator

operator
#37

I would now like to hand over to Dennis Callesen for any written questions.

Dennis Callesen

executive
#38

We have received 2 written questions so far. The first one goes, you're maintaining the EBITDA guidance of DKK 400 million to DKK 480 million despite EBITDA of only DKK 143 million in H1. What specifically gives you confidence that the underlying business can deliver the significant step-up in EBITDA in H2? And how much of that improvement is volume-driven versus margin driven?

Michael Jeppesen

executive
#39

Yes. Again, if you do a 10,000-foot calculation from 10,000-foot distance, you can see, yes, it's true we ended DKK 143 million. But first half were affected by one-off of DKK 69 million. We had very harsh winter condition that costed us between DKK 20 million to DKK 30 million, meaning that the underlying performance was like DKK 240-ish million, not taking into consideration the ramp down in costs of Sonepar. So we leave that out. Now if you take DKK 143 million and you add DKK 240 million to that, that brings you in the DK 380-ish million, right? That's still a way to go. Then you know there is seasonality in the costs. And staff costs, mainly the main driver being holiday -- provision for holiday basically maybe a bit too simple, but when people take leave in H2, we release the money from the provision for holiday, whereas when they have -- when they are on leave in H1, it's a lot -- to a large extent, it's holidays, which means it's paid by Solar. Traditional, this brings in DKK 40 million to DKK 50 million. That's the delta. So if you add these figures together, you actually end up around DKK 425 million to DKK 440 million. It is all other things equal, I know the world never is that. But that gives you an idea about why we feel fairly comfortable that this is within reach, I would say.

Dennis Callesen

executive
#40

Second question. Q2 showed a 6.1% adjusted organic growth which is a significant improvement from Q1. How much of this reflects a general improvement in underlying demand and how much is simply a recovery from the weak winter conditions?

Jens Andersen

executive
#41

I would say the weak weather conditions hit us very hard in the first half year. And I don't believe that we will see that we will catch that up. We have to understand that then people at least should do overtime, and they don't, at least not in the Nordics. So I think it's postponed more or less forever or it's in front of us. So we need to catch up in other ways. And then what we see, as Michael also stated, that we saw a pretty okay catch-up from -- or pick up in March. And so far, we have seen the same pattern. So don't expect that what we left in the first Q that we will get that for free because I think simply we are pushing that in front of us, so to say if you understand what I mean.

Dennis Callesen

executive
#42

No further written questions. Okay.

Jens Andersen

executive
#43

Then I think we will say have a nice day to you all, and thanks for listening in. And if there's any other questions, you're always free to call one of us. So bye-bye.

Operator

operator
#44

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.

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