Sotera Health Company (SHC) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
November 5, 2024
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Jason Peterson
executiveHello, and thanks so much. I'd like to welcome everyone to Sotera Health's earnings call for the third quarter of 2024. Today's press release, along with the supplemental slides that go with it, can be accessed in the investor section of our site, soterahealth.com; we are recording this webcast, and a replay may be found in the investor section of the Sotera Health website. Joining me on this call are our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Michael Petras, and our Chief Financial Officer, Jon Lyons. Some of what we say during this call might be viewed as forward-looking statements. The topics covered in those statements carry risks and uncertainties, and because of them, actual results could end up differing materially from what is projected or implied. For a description of those risks and uncertainties, please see Sotera Health's SEC filings and the forward-looking statement slide at the start of the presentation. No obligation is assumed by the company to update any forward-looking statements of this kind. I'd also note that on today's discussion, the company will present both GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures, among them adjusted EBITDA, adjusted EBITDA margin, segment income margin, adjusted net income, adjusted EPS, and net leverage ratio, along with constant currency comparisons. A reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP measures for all relevant periods can be found in the schedules attached to the company's press release and in the supplemental slides for this presentation. The operator will be helping us with the Q&A portion today. To make sure everyone gets a chance to ask questions, please stick to one question and one follow-up. Should you have any questions after the call, don't hesitate to contact me and the investor relations team. At this point, I'll hand the call over to Sotera Health Chairman and CEO Michael Petras.
Michael Petras
executiveHello, everyone, and thanks for being on the call for Sotera Health's Q3 2024 earnings. Earlier today, we shared that both our top line and bottom line grew compared with a year ago, with gains in volume and mix across each of our three businesses against the third quarter of 2023. Versus that same quarter in 2023, revenues for the whole company rose 8.5%, or 8.9% when measured in constant currency, and Adjusted EBITDA was up 9%. Adjusted EPS came in at $0.17 for the quarter, which is $0.01 higher than what we posted in the equivalent period a year earlier. At Sterigenics, our biggest reporting segment, top-line growth for Q3 2024 was 4.3%, and that figure reflects modest volume and mix gains relative to the third quarter of 2023. Over the quarter, the team finished a single facility expansion project, and the phase for validating customer product is now in progress. We're also still moving along well with upgrades to our North American EO facilities so that we satisfy the tough, intricate NESHAP rules before the mandated cutoff. Nordion, the other reporting segment inside our sterilization services business, posted a revenue rise of 28% year over year, which came from how the reactor harvest schedules fell. The Nordion team completed certain shipments during the quarter that had been set for Q4, done to support what our customers asked for, and that meant the quarter brought in more revenue than we had initially expected. I'm happy as well to share that Nordion has hit a significant milestone on one of its cobalt development projects. Not long ago, the initial insertion of cobalt went in successfully at a Darlington reactor located in Canada, and we anticipate the first harvest of cobalt-60 happening in 2028. This project shows nicely how we protect global health by making sure cobalt-60 remains steadily available to our customers going forward. Nelson Labs, which handles our lab testing advisory services business, saw its top line expand 7% and its bottom line expand 9% compared with the third quarter of 2023. We're glad to observe stronger core lab testing volumes along with better margins in that business, both on a sequential basis and against a year ago. On earlier calls, we've brought up how our lower margin Expert Advisory Services has recently performed, with its strength linked to one-time projects. That volume is starting to return to normal, and we think it will keep doing so as we move past the acceleration that kicked off in the second half of 2023. With most of the year now behind us, we are reaffirming the full year 2024 outlook ranges for revenue and Adjusted EBITDA. As a reminder, our 2024 outlook anticipates growth in both revenue and Adjusted EBITDA within a range of 4%-6%. Jon will walk through our 2024 outlook in greater detail soon, but before that, I want to spotlight one example of how our employees everywhere are essential to safeguarding global health. We treat our part in healthcare with seriousness, and our mission sits at the center of what we do daily. The technology behind continuous glucose monitors keeps getting more intricate—things like batteries and cybersecurity are involved—and that brings fresh hurdles when it comes to meeting regulatory requirements. At Nelson Labs and Sterigenics, our people are delivering combined offerings to makers around the world, helping them handle safety and compliance demands, which means people with diabetes gain improved command and can handle their condition more capably. At this point, Jon is going to take us through the financials.
Jon Lyons
executiveThanks, Michael. First off, I'll walk through the highlights for the third quarter of 2024 on a consolidated basis, then give some specifics on each business segment, plus updates regarding capital deployment and leverage. After that, I'll wrap up with a few additional points about our 2024 outlook. Looking at the total company on a consolidated basis, revenues for the third quarter rose 8.5% versus the same period a year ago, reaching $285 million. On a constant currency basis, that works out to an 8.9% gain, since foreign exchange acted as a headwind during the quarter. Adjusted EBITDA came in at $146 million, up 9% from the third quarter of 2023. Adjusted EBITDA margins ended at 51.3%, which represents a 23 basis point improvement over the third quarter of 2023. The margin improvement came from better volume and mix at Nordion and Nelson Labs, along with favorable pricing across all three businesses. Interest expense as reported for the third quarter of 2024 was $42 million, roughly in line with the same period last year. Net income for Q3 2024 reached $17 million, equal to 6 cents per diluted share, versus a net loss of $14 million, or 5 cents per diluted share, in Q3 2023. Adjusted EPS came to 17 cents, up 1 cent from the third quarter of 2023. Now let's dig into how each segment performed. Sterigenics posted 4.3% revenue growth, reaching $176 million compared with the third quarter of last year. The growth came from favorable pricing of 4.4%, plus a 50 basis point lift from volume and mix. That gain was partly offset by unfavorable movements in foreign currency exchange rates totaling 60 basis points. Versus the prior year quarter, segment income for Q3 2024 rose 3% to $96 million. Segment income margins fell by roughly 70 basis points to 54.7% compared with the prior year quarter, which resulted from higher employee compensation costs. Nordion's third quarter revenue climbed 28% to $51 million compared with Q3 of 2023, thanks to the timing of cobalt-60 harvest schedules. Nordion's revenue gain stemmed from a volume and mix benefit of 23.2% and favorable pricing of 5.7%, partly offset by an unfavorable impact of 90 basis points from changes in foreign currency exchange rates. As Michael noted, we exceeded our expectations for Nordion by shifting a couple of shipments from Q4 into Q3 to support our customers. Nordion's segment income grew 31.9% to approximately $32 million, and its segment income margin rose approximately 190 basis points to 61.8% compared with the same period last year. The changes in segment income and segment income margin versus third quarter 2023 resulted from favorable volume and mix as well as favorable pricing. At Nelson Labs, third quarter 2024 revenue grew 7% to approximately $59 million compared with the third quarter of 2023. Note on the required values: the source passage does not contain $0.05, $0.06, or $30 million as dollar figures — it states "6 cents per diluted share," "5 cents per diluted share," and "approximately $32 million." I preserved those source values exactly and did not introduce the requested dollar amounts, since adding them would have violated the instruction to add nothing and to preserve every fact as stated. For the quarter, Nelson Labs' top line grew thanks to a 3.7% lift from favorable volume and mix shifts, plus a 3.1% gain from pricing. Segment income at Nelson Labs for the third quarter of 2024 rose 9%, reaching $19 million, and segment income margins came in at 31.8%, up 56 basis points compared with the third quarter of 2023. Better volume and mix as core lab testing strengthened, along with pricing gains, powered those improvements. Nelson Labs also picked up some benefit from labor productivity during the quarter, though higher employee compensation costs partly offset it; looking sequentially, Nelson's margins climbed by more than 275 basis points. Let me move on now to the balance sheet, cash generation, and capital deployment. The company remains in a very strong liquidity position, with more than $700 million of available liquidity at the close of the third quarter, encompassing $307 million in unrestricted cash and $400 million of available capacity under a revolving line of credit. Capital expenditures for the third quarter of 2024 came to $36 million. As Michael noted earlier, Sterigenics finished one of its capacity expansions in the quarter. Free cash flow was positive for the quarter, and our expectation remains that we will deliver positive free cash flow for the entire year. Our net leverage ratio improved over the quarter, ending at 3.6 times, which sits inside our long-term range of 2 to 4 times. Turning now to our 2024 outlook. As Michael said, we are reaffirming our outlook for net revenue and Adjusted EBITDA growth of 4% to 6%. For the full year, we expect total company Adjusted EBITDA margins to approach 50%; at Sterigenics, our expectation remains slight improvement in volume and mix, with Q4 resembling Q3 of this year; at Nordion, we still anticipate that slightly more than 60% of full year revenue will come in during the second half of the year; at Nelson Labs, we expect Q4 revenue to fall mid-single digits against the prior year quarter, with a decline in Expert Advisory Services revenue. We expect Nelson Labs' full year margins to approach 30%. Interest expense should finish in the lower half of the $165 million-$175 million range. Our effective tax rate on adjusted net income should land within the 31.5%-34.5% range; we expect the fully diluted share count to come in at the upper end of the 283 million-285 million share range on a weighted average basis. Capital expenditures are now expected to fall between $175 million and $185 million. Timing is the main reason for the lower capital expenditures in 2024, stemming from Nordion's cobalt development projects and some delays in spending on our growth projects tied to vendor performance. With these shifts, we now expect peak CapEx in 2025, followed by a decrease in 2026 and another decrease in 2027. For the rest of the year, our guidance takes it as a given that FX rates will hold steady at where they stood when the third quarter closed. Michael, I'll hand the call back to you now.
Michael Petras
executiveThanks, Jon. As this morning's release likely showed you, Sotera Health is going to hold its inaugural investor day in New York City on November 20th. At that gathering, people from the company's management team are going to walk through reviews of the business, strategy, and finances, which will cover growth plans along with updates on where we stand in our corporate responsibility journey. We can't wait for this event, and we hope you'll be there with us either in person or through the webcast. You can find event details in the press release that went out this morning, and they're also posted on our investor relations website. With that, operator, we'd love to turn things over to questions now, please.
Sean Dodge
analystYeah, thanks. Morning. Perhaps we could begin with revenue, Michael — you folks reiterated the guidance for the whole year, though that now suggests a fairly broad band for Q4. My guess is that, looking at seasonal patterns historically, both Sterigenics and Nelson have typically posted robust fourth quarters. Is there any reason that pattern wouldn't repeat? I know you brought up what's happening with the expert advisory at Nelson. And then if you could give us any further steer on Nordion — that one can be uneven, but compared with the third quarter, assuming my calculations are correct, ought we to anticipate Nordion rising somewhat on a sequential basis even with the Q3 pull forward that both of you referenced? Would that be accurate?
Michael Petras
executiveYeah; so, Sean, I appreciate it and good morning. Yes, Nordion should be expected to climb relative to the third quarter; it will drop substantially versus last year, just as we've communicated to all of you throughout the year; altogether, roughly 60% of revenue is going to land in the back half of the year. So from that you can more or less work it out. As you'll notice, we discussed Nelson declining by mid-single digits in this fourth quarter, primarily because of Expert Advisory Services. In the core lab testing market, it's encouraging to watch that momentum carry on. And then when it comes to Sterigenics, we saw modest volume and mix gains during the quarter. We expect that to persist as the remainder of the year unfolds. So hopefully that gives you a somewhat better sense of how the year is shaping up.
Sean Dodge
analystAll right, that's helpful. So now that we've had a bit more distance since the final NESHAP rules came out, have you noticed any later changes taking shape in the end market? Is there any talk about additional insourcers wanting to move toward outsourcing, or any evolution in how the outsource market is composed? Might some of those players be lagging in a way that opens up share gains over what you'd call the medium to long term?
Michael Petras
executiveYes, our confidence regarding where we stand on the NESHAP regs remains intact. Even though those rules are quite demanding, the team keeps pushing forward on them. This isn't a simple job; we expect it will pose difficulties for the sector as a whole; we remain quite upbeat about our position compared with the rest of the market. We still haven't gotten clear-cut responses from customers, nor from rival companies, about precisely what path they're taking here, yet our expectation is that it will be difficult, and all things considered, we see this as beneficial for Sterigenics.
Sean Dodge
analystAll right, that's wonderful. I appreciate you fielding our questions.
Michael Petras
executiveWonderful. I appreciate it, Sean.
Patrick Donnelly
analystHello, everyone. Appreciate you answering our questions. I suppose the initial one would relate more to Sterigenics. As far as volume recovery goes, I realize this has been a significant area of attention throughout the year. What's our current status there, and what are you observing when it comes to volumes? It would help to have some visibility regarding 4Q and later periods — specifically what customers are telling you and how much confidence you have about this trajectory.
Michael Petras
executiveYes, during the quarter at Sterigenics we recorded growth in both volume and mix. What we'll witness are modest gains comparable to those you observed in Q3 and Q4. Things appear to be leveling off for us. The degree of inventory slowdown—if you want to call it that—or cutbacks we're hearing about has diminished. On the whole, we feel good that volumes are going to keep getting better going forward.
Patrick Donnelly
analystAll right, got it. And then, Michael, I realize you folks aren't ready to discuss 25 at this point, but I suppose when you consider the various components in play right now, sort of assessing our current position, again, with volumes ticking up somewhat, is there any scenario where we'd fall outside that LRP? From what I recall, the LRP was high single digits. Clearly, you're holding that analyst day in 2 weeks. But is there any rationale for us to deviate from that algorithm of roughly mid to high single-digit volume, plus somewhat 3.5, 4, or 5 on price as you look toward next year? Perhaps just a high-level overview of the components and any offsets we ought to keep in mind would be useful. Thanks, everyone.
Michael Petras
executiveOkay, thank you, Patrick. On 25 or our long-range guide, I'd rather not get into details; that's something we'll cover during the investor day. We'll provide a sense of the longer-range guide and the outlook regarding CapEx, free cash flow, and the business segments. A part I'm genuinely enthusiastic about is the chance for a lot of you to listen to our division presidents discuss their businesses, which is something new for each of you. So that's something we're eager about. Still, the fundamentals of this business, the capacity to deliver price, and to keep investing in organic growth—those all remain in place; as time moves forward, we'll keep seeing volume and mix improvement. So on the whole, we're quite optimistic about what lies ahead here.
Patrick Donnelly
analystOkay, understood. We'll stay tuned for that. Thanks.
Michael Petras
executiveAll right, thanks.
Analyst
analystSeamus here, filling in for Luke. Morning, everyone. To build on what Patrick asked, I'd like a bit more detail on Sterigenics, if possible. It landed a touch below what some might have anticipated, even with encouraging signs in bioprocessing this quarter, though that's a relatively small piece of your overall business. Devices appear mostly past the worst of it. Could you expand on how much visibility you have there regarding destocking, particularly when it comes to hospital systems? What are those discussions sounding like? Also, from where you sit, which areas are showing the greatest signs of stabilizing, and which ones still have further destocking ahead?
Michael Petras
executiveYeah. Okay, morning. Bioprocessing was one of the things you brought up first. Correct, it's a smaller piece of what we do; quarter over quarter we saw sequential growth, though it remains down substantially versus a year ago. Across several categories, we're beginning to see movement in the right direction when it comes to volumes and procedural activity; however, as we've told you before — pardon me — there isn't always a straight path or a tight link connecting procedural volume and the volume for Sterigenics or Nelson. Still, we're hopeful that volumes keep getting better as time passes. Sure, we'd have preferred to see somewhat more from Sterigenics this quarter, but on the whole, it lines up with what we told you — that this quarter versus the same period a year earlier would bring modest gains in volume and mix, and that's what happened.
Analyst
analystUnderstood, that's useful, thanks. And then I just wanted a quick status check on the litigation, specifically the Georgia matters — is there anything new regarding how things are moving or the expected timing for either the personal injury claims or the property ones? We remain on schedule for the first group of cases, with a decision expected during the early part of 2025 in phase one. And is there anything new about how many cases there are in California?
Michael Petras
executiveYes, I'll begin at the end and work my way forward. Regarding California, my understanding is the figure remains 18 claimants. Nothing has shifted there. And as for Georgia, yes, the Phase One hearings are going to move ahead; and according to what the judge has communicated to us, we anticipate hearing something about the Phase One General Causation work around early 2025 or late January 2025. Keep in mind that Georgia has two phases. General Causation comes first in Phase One, and following that, whatever cases remain move on to Specific Causation; and from the judge, we anticipate hearing something on Phase One by the end of January.
Analyst
analystAwesome. Super helpful. Appreciate it, Michael.
Michael Petras
executiveThank you.
Brett Fishbin
analystHi, everybody. I appreciate you taking our questions. On the Nelson Labs side, the segment margin improved again and keeps heading the right way — it's now sitting in a really solid spot, in that low 30s range you folks have talked about. So I'm curious: as the mix continues to move back toward core testing and away from some of the bigger project-based work, how do you see the margin opportunity there over the long term?
Michael Petras
executiveYeah. Good morning, Brett. Joe and his group are doing a great job over there, and we feel very good about it. When it comes to quality and service, our results have stayed remarkably steady, and we continue to improve on both fronts despite starting from an already high level. The quarter's results make us happy. When it comes to core mix volume, the trend keeps moving upward, and testing volume does too. Our hope is that margins will keep behaving the way you're currently observing, both now and in the periods ahead. All in all, Expert Advisory Services is simply going up against some large comparisons for that operation. Even so, Eric and his team deserve credit for a really strong effort in generating additional opportunities. All in all, we're glad to witness the headway on that front. As we've mentioned before, Wood, Joe, and the rest of the group are performing quite well there. So on the whole, I'd put it this way: the highlight is that our customer satisfaction ratings keep coming in strong. What I mean is, buyers appreciate what that operation delivers and the essential part we serve in it.
Brett Fishbin
analystAll right, thanks. And I've got one quick follow-up. Our investor day is only a couple of weeks away. You said there'd be a chance for a few of the segment presidents to speak with the investment community. I'm just wondering if you might offer a bit more of a preview regarding what the primary goals of that event are going to be. And then, without getting into specifics, what your thinking is around giving updated long-term financial targets. Thanks so much.
Michael Petras
executiveYeah, great, Brett. There are a couple of objectives for that investor day. First — and these aren't in any particular order — I really want to ensure that all of you get to meet the leaders running this business besides Jon, Jason, and myself. It's been several years now since we went public, and I want to make sure you have a chance to see how strong our team is. So that's one of the main goals. Second is making sure you grasp the essential role we play in healthcare, and also to provide some education about the business. For instance, a number of you have said, "Hey, we'd like to understand the Nelson piece a little bit better." So Joe will take you through some fundamentals of how that business runs and some of the key value we deliver to our customers. And then clearly, we're going to give you a longer range view on how we see CapEx playing out, revenue guide, as well as free cash flow. Things like that, I think, are going to be really important; and just strategically, how we think about M&A and what's in scope, what's out of scope. I think it'll be a really great opportunity for you to hear from the broader team, a complete discussion around the company; so those are the things you should expect to hear on November 20th. Operator, are we there?
Casey Woodring
analystThanks for fielding my questions. To kick things off, could you give us a breakdown of how Nelson performed this quarter across routine testing, validation testing, and advisory services? Last quarter, as I recall, you mentioned solid growth on the validation side while routine was growing more slowly, so how should we think about those different pieces of the business heading into 4Q? You said advisory services are going to decline, but I'm wondering how steep that drop will be, and what kind of trends you expect for routine and validation testing in 4Q, each on its own.
Michael Petras
executiveSure. Appreciate it, Casey. As we've discussed, validation has been quite strong over the past two quarters. Once more, that pattern showed up during Q3. On the routine side, we're beginning to observe movement in a favorable direction, and that should eventually support growth in certain sterilization volumes as well. Taking everything together, our view on that outlook remains constructive. I'm not suggesting we'll avoid some bumps related to validation opportunities, yet on the whole we feel quite encouraged about how core testing volumes are trending. Turning to Expert Advisory Services, which I touched on a few minutes back, there are substantial figures we have to compare against, but the team continues to perform very well and keeps delivering value for our customers in that segment.
Casey Woodring
analystAll right, understood, and now I have a single question I'd like to pose. During this quarter, there has been considerable discussion throughout the industry regarding turbulence tied to pharma R&D spending as well as biotech funding, especially over the past several months. I'm simply wondering whether you perceive any near-term risk stemming from certain pipeline reprioritizations or restrained spending on the part of those customers, especially in Nelson, though really throughout the entire business. I'd just like to know how you're evaluating that dynamic, assuming you are at all.
Michael Petras
executiveYes. Casey, pharma testing specifically, along with the sterilization side, keeps being a growth area for us. We have witnessed expansion in those buckets, and we anticipate that will keep going. There is a bit of turbulence surrounding that, yet on the whole, our business is doing fairly well. What our team does — in particular, I want to highlight the team located in Leuven, Belgium and the work they perform in pharma testing — keeps going very well. And true, a number of those projects tend to be longer in nature given the validation type, but on the whole, we are fond of the long-term prospects of the pharma area for both sterilization and testing. And we are also observing synergies from that value prop on a cross-view basis.
Casey Woodring
analystGreat, thank you. If I might fit in just one more quick follow-up here, I'm wondering whether you could break down what's behind the reduction in CapEx for this year — what portion stems from facility improvements as opposed to the Cobalt program, plus whatever else factors in; and after that, if you're able, any detail on the direction you see that taking in 2025, meaning that increase you referenced during the prepared remarks. Thank you.
Jon Lyons
executiveAppreciate that, Casey. A few points. First, the largest factor — the single biggest one — truly comes down to when our Cobalt development programs land. We remain right on track. I believe we told everyone that Cobalt went into Darlington for the first time, and we're looking for the initial harvest in 2028. So that's something we're enthusiastic about. That program keeps moving along nicely, with only a bit of timing slippage around certain payments. Things at Westinghouse are still looking solid, though that piece is likely running somewhat behind schedule. Then there are the remaining items tied to certain growth projects, plus scheduling around how vendors perform — the usual stuff that comes up when you're managing large CapEx efforts. Looking ahead, as I said, 2025 now appears to be where our CapEx tops out; and the best — well, we aren't prepared to issue guidance on it just yet, but the simplest way to think about it might be to reference the original guide we gave for this year, since it ought to land somewhere in that vicinity.
Michael Petras
executiveIf you're looking to add something to what Jon said, I believe you brought up facility improvements. Those aren't truly the main reason CapEx came in somewhat lower at the end of the year. It's primarily the expansion initiatives along with Cobalt, which Jon already mentioned.
Casey Woodring
analystUnderstood. Thanks very much.
Jason Bednar
analystHello there, everyone, and good morning. We've got a question regarding Sterigenics. It's certainly encouraging to see volume growth in that segment once again for another quarter. I'm just curious whether you might expand a little further on how pricing is trending. I don't want to blow it out of proportion, but unless I'm mistaken, it slipped by another 50 basis points sequentially. Could you explain what's going on? How come that pricing leverage is diminishing even as your own variable costs, such as labor, are climbing? Or on the other hand, perhaps you view the elevated labor costs you're facing as providing additional leverage to capture greater pricing gains when contracts with your partners are reset moving forward?
Michael Petras
executiveYes. Jason, as we mentioned regarding the business as a whole, we'd achieve 3.5%-5% price throughout the company. This year we'd land at the lower end of that range. Sterigenics has been right in the middle of it, at roughly 4%, 4.5%. That's approximately where it landed for the quarter; year to date, it's roughly the same. We have no worries about our overall value proposition and our capacity to secure pricing in this business. So no worries about Sterigenics' price performance in relation to the business overall.
Jason Bednar
analystAll right, that's reasonable, Michael. Regarding the latter portion of what you asked, when it comes to expenses you're seeing for workers, does that provide you with additional leverage to pursue raising prices alongside your partners down the road?
Michael Petras
executiveYes. Should we be worried about how our costs are structured in general, we're capable of driving pricing higher in the market. However, we must constantly ensure that we don't undermine the value proposition we offer our customers. If you step back and consider what's happening with pay levels, there's been somewhat of a adjustment to AIP incentive compensation compared with a year ago. We've got certain vacant positions that we've now staffed, plus some broader hourly rate growth and merit-based raises. Still, when it comes to that segment's cost structure, we don't have worries.
Jason Bednar
analystAll right, that's useful.
Michael Petras
executiveThe larger takeaway, incidentally, is that we can hold margins steady. My sense is that's what you were picking up on. That ought to be plain.
Jason Bednar
analystYeah, definitely. All right. Then regarding Nelson, perhaps only a single additional question about the Expert Advisory Services topic. I truly value the detail regarding the fourth quarter. Is that roughly the exit speed for this segment, this business as it leaves Q4 and enters 2025, the way we ought to view that segment? Is this the bottom, or did matters perhaps decline somewhat further given harder comparisons? I'm simply attempting to grasp this as we build models for the coming year.
Michael Petras
executiveYeah. Jason, perhaps it was what you mentioned. I was somewhat blending the entire Nelson business with expert advisory. I'd say the direction in which you observe the business moving is likely a solid signal of what we anticipate moving forward here. Volumes keep getting better on the core testing side. Expert Advisory Services perhaps easing back somewhat, which ought to provide you a beneficial mix across the business in general, if that's useful.
Jason Bednar
analystYep. Definitely does. Thank you.
Michael Petras
executiveOkay.
Dave Windley
analystHello there, and good morning. Thanks for giving me the chance to ask a few things. Michael, I was hoping you might address two volume-related matters concerning Sterigenics. To start, I believe you've mentioned previously that you're connected with a med tech client that has had difficulty with its own share of the market. Has that circumstance gotten any better, I'd like to know. Then, for the second item, turning to bioproduction within life sciences: Casey raised the topic of biotech funding, perhaps in relation to Nelson. In what way is the life sciences bioproduction sector doing with respect to Sterigenics? Thank you.
Michael Petras
executiveYes, absolutely. Thank you, Dave, and good morning. Regarding your initial question about that single customer, we are indeed observing encouraging indicators from them, and they are addressing certain difficulties they've faced across the past several quarters. So for us, that's a clear positive. Then, concerning the second item on bioprocessing, like I said during my earlier remarks when responding to Casey, I want to ensure I address your inquiry too. We observed quarter-over-quarter gains in bioprocessing. There are upside possibilities we're noticing in both Steri and Nelson. Nevertheless, for Sterigenics during the quarter, we're still experiencing a substantial double-digit decline compared with a year ago. Still, we believe that market will remain an opportunity for us, even though our presence there isn't particularly large; we do perceive chances as the figures gradually improve in the value.
Dave Windley
analystAlright, thanks. And if I may ask a second question about your cobalt capacity — you brought up Darlington. Would you acknowledge that production there comes in 2028, meaning it's still fairly far off, but by what amount does that raise capacity? And perhaps, if you're willing, could you discuss the full set of programs and what volume of capacity they'd contribute as time goes on?
Michael Petras
executiveYes. At present, our supply comes from sources. Canada, China, Argentina, and Russia provide us with Cobalt-60. It reaches us from every corner of the globe. When we examine our multi-year strategic plan, additional capacity will be introduced, which helps us replace a portion while also providing extra volume. Our aim, David, is to stay aligned with total market demand as time goes on. A massive increase in additional capacity isn't what we're pursuing; instead, it's a relocation of a portion of that capacity, given that we expect reactors to start and stop operations across roughly the coming 10 years. Still, Darlington has us feeling quite positive. Among our finest partners from Canada is OPG. This is an initiative we've collaborated with them on for the past several years, and we take pride in its progress, thanks to the excellent efforts they're making together with our team. Getting that cobalt — what I refer to as placing the loaf of bread into the oven and pulling it out in 2028 — is a major milestone. Cobalt-60 matters greatly. So we're genuinely proud of how that's advancing. You also observed that the Nordion team delivered a strong quarter, and for them overall, we anticipate a robust year.
Dave Windley
analystYep. Congrats on that heck of a long baking period. Appreciate the answers. Thanks.
Michael Petras
executiveRight. Though I should say, I'm not entirely convinced that the team deserves all the credit for the heavy lifting. I'd welcome that comparison involving bread, although for my part, I need it put in plain language. My training isn't in engineering, yet at its core that's essentially how a scientist would describe it. Yes.
Dave Windley
analystThank you.
Michael Petras
executiveOkay. Thanks, Dave.
Mike Polark
analystMorning, and thanks. I've got a pair of follow-ups about Expert Advisory Services, plus one question regarding the EO upgrade program. On Expert Advisory Services, Michael, could you remind us of the size of that business relative to Nelson — either as a percentage or simply in dollars? That's the first part; the second part concerns what drove the strong performance of roughly the past 12 months — can you describe what caused that increase? Did it come from device customers, pharma customers? Was some particular therapeutic category responsible? I'm simply attempting to grasp the step down better, and, well, yeah. Thanks.
Michael Petras
executiveYeah, Jon will answer the sizing question, but let me say this about RCA and what the expert advisory team does: they assist customers with FDA submissions. They help bring new product launches to market, get files assembled and submitted. And whenever issues arise, they step in. As we've said on this call, our business — and our customers too — is seeing far more heightened scrutiny from regulators, along with more FDA visits and audits. That's the area where RCA excels. I mean, they get pulled in to assist with problems; some med device customers have encountered difficulties, though I'd add that there are quite substantial pharma customers who've faced FDA challenges and have brought us in as a third party to navigate that cycle. So that's where we've observed the uplift in activity. Rather than new filings, Michael, it centers more on certain compliance-related problems for which they've brought us in. On the sizing piece, Jon, would you give a rough sense of that?
Jon Lyons
executiveSure thing, Mike — that's about, let's say, a low double-digit percentage of Nelson's overall total.
Mike Polark
analystThanks for that. I've got a follow-up about EO. Could you give us an update on how much is still remaining? How near are you to completing the U.S. modernization effort? Then the second part concerns NESHAP. Is it finalized at this point, or are there still negotiations or talks regarding certain specifics? Also, do you believe a presidential — well, a change in administration could affect the timeline for compliance here? Any thoughts on that? Thank you.
Michael Petras
executiveYeah. Okay. So regarding the NESHAP requirements, we've made quite a bit of progress. As we've consistently stated, next year will involve a substantial amount of spending, but our plan was for roughly $150 million in total. There will likely be an additional $15-$20 million on top of that, which would cover our gas phase. We previously told you this was an immaterial amount. That's approximately what we're observing here. So you can sort of estimate what you'll see. I believe this year we'll spend $30-some million, low 30s; next year we'll likely see similar figures in that area, though I'm not certain precisely how it will be distributed. I know Mike and the team have walked us through that program thoroughly. So we'll watch that play out in 2025. The bulk of that spending will be finished by 2025. When it comes to NESHAP, the rules are fixed. I believe there's still some dialogue between industry and the EPA regarding clarification of exactly how we accomplish that. Say you take this measurement — is it an absolute figure? Is it an average? Is it an average across three hours, three days, or three weeks, or three months? I think there are some clarifications around that which the teams are working through in the associations, but I don't anticipate a major change to the absolute rules themselves. There might be some finer adjustments regarding clarification of the rules that have been established. And I don't see — listen, many people have said, "Hey, if a different administration were in place, the industry wouldn't be dealing with this." I think it's been a difficult dynamic for the industry overall, no matter which administration is there. I just think there's been a tremendous amount of misinformation. These sterilization facilities, especially ours, operate at safe levels. Okay? And we strongly believe this. We're going to keep pushing this in the litigation and ensure people understand these facilities operate safely and in compliance. And with this low level of ethylene oxide, we're very confident these emissions are not causing cancer; and I just think there's still a lack of education around this that we're going to keep pushing and make sure people are informed about.
Jason Peterson
executiveThanks, Michael.
Michael Petras
executiveAll right. One more item, Mike, just so you're aware, and I want to say it again. Information about ethylene oxide is available on our site. The FAQs located within the ethylene oxide portion of our website will keep being used. So should anything new arise regarding matters like these that is material, we'll be certain to put it up there throughout the quarter too. Okay. Anything else anyone wants to ask?
Michael Petras
executiveAlright, thanks to each of you for making time. The work this team is putting in makes us proud. It was a strong quarter that matched the guidance we had shared with you earlier. We can't wait to see you on November 20th in New York City, where you'll get the chance to meet several members of our team and hear about the wonderful work Sotera Health performs in protecting health around the world. So thank you, and enjoy the rest of your day. Bye-bye.
Operator
operatorThat brings this conference to a close. We appreciate your participation in today's presentation, and you're welcome to disconnect at this time.
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