Sotera Health Company (SHC) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

November 4, 2025

NASDAQ US Health Care Life Sciences Tools and Services earnings 34 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Jason Peterson

executive
#1

Hello, everyone, and thanks for joining. It's a pleasure to welcome you to Sotera Health's earnings call for the third quarter of 2025. Our press release from today, along with the supplemental slides, can be accessed in the Investors area of our site, soterahealth.com; this webcast is currently being taped, and a replay will be made accessible through the Investors portion of the Sotera Health website. Joining me on this call are our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Michael Petras, as well as our Chief Financial Officer, Jon Lyons. At points during this call, certain remarks we make might be classified as forward-looking statements. The subjects covered by these statements carry risks and uncertainties that may lead actual outcomes to differ materially from what was projected or implied. For a description of such risks and uncertainties, please consult Sotera Health's SEC filings and the forward-looking statement slide appearing at the start of the presentation. No obligation is taken on by the company to revise any of these forward-looking statements. Be aware that in today's discussion, the company will present both GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures, among them adjusted EBITDA, adjusted EBITDA margin, tax rate applicable to net income, adjusted net income, adjusted EPS, net debt and net leverage ratio, alongside constant currency comparisons. Schedules accompanying the company's press release and the supplemental slides for this presentation contain a reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP measures for all relevant periods. Assisting with today's Q&A portion of the call will be the operator. To ensure everyone gets a chance to ask questions, kindly stick to 1 question and 1 follow-up. Should you have any questions once the call concludes, don't hesitate to contact me or anyone on the Investor Relations team. At this point I'll call — hand things over to Sotera Health Chairman and CEO, Michael Petras.

Michael Petras

executive
#2

Hello, everyone, and thanks for being with us this morning. It's my pleasure to share that Sotera Health has posted yet another outstanding quarter, defined by robust revenue gains, adjusted EBITDA climbing by double digits, roughly 150 basis points of margin improvement, and an adjusted EPS figure that came in $0.09 higher than what we recorded in Q3 of 2024. Company-wide revenues rose 9.1% during the quarter, and adjusted EBITDA was up 12.2%. Sterigenics had another impressive quarter, posting top line growth of 9.8% versus the third quarter of 2024, fueled by steady results from our key medical device clients. At Nordion, revenues grew 22.4%, mainly due to how reactor harvest schedules lined up relative to Q3 of 2024. That revenue came in above what we had anticipated, since some customer deliveries that had been planned for Q4 ended up happening during Q3. Nelson Labs turned in third quarter revenue that fell slightly short of our forecast, yet growth in core lab testing along with operational enhancements lifted segment income and expanded margins. That represents the fifth straight quarter of margin expansion on a year-over-year basis at Nelson Labs, which speaks to how focused we are on execution. Beyond our solid quarterly results, we also bolstered our balance sheet by retiring $75 million in debt, which brought down our interest expense by about $13 million on an annual basis. Jon will go into further detail on that in a moment. With our strong results so far this year and the visibility we have for the rest of 2025, we are keeping our revenue guidance unchanged while lifting our adjusted EBITDA guidance. I've said it every quarter — Sotera Health plays an essential part in health care around the world. I'm happy to report that Nordion has just obtained a 25-year renewal of its Class 1B operating license — the lengthiest Class Ib license the Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission has ever issued. That achievement speaks to the strong, trusted relationship we have with the CNSC, along with their confidence in Nordion's safety culture and operational excellence. Thanks to this renewed license, Nordion will keep securing the worldwide supply of Cobalt-60 that underpins vital sterilization processes — among them those carried out by Sterigenics — and makes possible life-saving radiotherapeutic treatments for brain tumors and early-stage breast cancer. This accomplishment strengthens our mission of Safeguarding Global Health by guaranteeing a dependable supply of critical Cobalt-60 for our customers, the health care system, and patients for many decades ahead. At this point, I'll hand things over to Jon, who will take us through the financial details.

Jon Lyons

executive
#3

Thanks, Michael. I'll begin by walking through our consolidated results for the third quarter of 2025, and then I'll break down how each business segment performed. Looking at the consolidated picture, Q3 revenues rose 9.1%, reaching $311 million, which works out to 8% on a constant currency basis when measured against the third quarter of 2024. Adjusted EBITDA climbed 12.2% to $164 million, or 11.2% on a constant currency basis, versus the third quarter of 2024. Adjusted EBITDA margins came in at 52.7%, which is 147 basis points higher than the prior year, thanks to better margins at both Sterigenics and Nelson Labs. Interest expense in the third quarter totaled $39 million, roughly $2.4 million better than the same period a year ago. Net income for Q3 2025 was $48 million, or $0.17 per diluted share, compared with net income of $17 million, or $0.06 per diluted share, in Q3 2024. Adjusted EPS came to $0.26, up $0.09 from the third quarter of 2024. Close to $0.04 of that gain was attributable to adjusted EBITDA growth, under $0.01 came from reduced interest expense, and the balance is tied to a lower tax rate; now let's dig into how our segments performed. Sterigenics kept up its strong showing in the third quarter, posting 9.8% revenue growth to $193 million, or 8.4% on a constant currency basis, against Q3 2024. That revenue growth came from favorable volume mix of roughly 4.6%, pricing gains of 3.8%, and a 140 basis point boost from foreign currency exchange. Segment income rose 11.6% to $107 million, or 10.2% on a constant currency basis, with margins up 90 basis points year-over-year at 55.6%, lifted by strong top line growth and partly held back by inflation. Nordion's third quarter revenue grew 22.4% to $63 million, or 23.6% on a constant currency basis, compared with Q3 of 2024. Nordion's revenue gain came from a volume and mix benefit of 18.9% plus favorable pricing of 4.7%, partly offset by an unfavorable 120 basis point impact from changes in foreign currency exchange rates. Nordion segment income rose 19.9% to approximately $38 million, or 21.2% on a constant currency basis, against Q3 of 2024. That segment income growth was fueled by increased volume and mix along with customer pricing. Segment income margin was 60.6%, a decrease of roughly 130 basis points, caused by product mix. On a year-to-date basis, Nordion segment income margins are up more than 70 basis points. Nelson Labs posted third quarter 2025 revenue of $56 million, a 5% decline from the same period a year earlier. Favorable contributions from pricing of 2.7%, foreign exchange of 1.4%, and core lab testing growth were offset by the decline in Expert Advisory Services. Nelson Labs' third quarter 2025 segment income increased 1.9% to $19 million, or flat on a constant currency basis, with margins expanding 229 basis points year-over-year to 34.1%. The improvement in segment income and margin came from volume and mix improvements, lab optimization, and favorable pricing. Now let's discuss our balance sheet, how we're generating cash, and what we're doing with our capital. So far this year, our operations have brought in $184 million in positive cash flow, and we spent $87 million on capital expenditures. Our liquidity remains very robust. When the third quarter closed, we had access to more than $890 million, which breaks down into just under $300 million in unrestricted cash plus roughly $600 million of borrowing room under a revolving credit line. We're still moving toward our longer-term net leverage goal of 2 to 3x. At the close of the quarter, our net leverage ratio had improved to 3.3x, compared with 3.7x at the finish of 2024 and 4.2x as of Q3 2023. As Michael noted, during this quarter we made strategic moves aimed at bolstering our balance sheet and bringing down interest costs. To start, ongoing growth in adjusted EBITDA along with cash generation allowed us to hit our contractual net leverage target, which set off a 25 basis point cut to the interest rate on our term loan; after that, in September, we repriced that term loan to shave off another 50 basis points and paid back $75 million on the facility. We anticipate these actions will produce roughly $13 million in yearly interest savings. I'd now like to move on to our outlook for the full year 2025. We're keeping our full year constant currency revenue growth guidance at 4.5% to 6%, and we expect revenue growth to come in close to the middle of that range. Thanks to ongoing gains from volume growth and operational improvements, we're lifting our constant currency adjusted EBITDA growth outlook to 6.75% to 7.75%, which is higher than the earlier range of 6% to 7.5%. Foreign currency should add about 25 basis points to both revenue and adjusted EBITDA growth, whereas the previous outlook assumed no impact. At the total company level, price for 2025 should still land near the midpoint of the 3% to 4% range we've stated as our long-term target. When it comes to Sterigenics, we still anticipate 2025 constant currency revenue growth in the mid- to high single digits. For Nordion, we've increased our full year 2025 constant currency revenue growth outlook and now anticipate mid- to high single-digit growth. On top of that, I'm happy to share that for 2025, no revenue risk remains tied to Cobalt-60; as for Nelson Labs, we now anticipate full year 2025 constant currency revenues to fall mid-single digits, since the effect of Expert Advisory Services outweighed the ongoing growth in core lab testing and better pricing. We expect segment income margin to end the full year in the low to mid-30s percent range. Now for other guidance items. Because of the balance sheet initiatives I described earlier, we're narrowing our interest expense range to $154 million to $158 million, an improvement over our prior outlook of $155 million to $165 million. On our adjusted net income, we expect an effective tax rate between 29% and 31%, which is better than the earlier range of 31.5% to 33.5%. Our lower tax rate on adjusted net income is a result of implementing new accounting rules tied to U.S. tax law modifications that took effect in July. Adjusted EPS is now projected between $0.81 and $0.86, which is up from the earlier guidance of $0.75 to $0.82. That $0.05 gain over the midpoint of the previous EPS range comes from $0.02 attributable to additional EBITDA generation and lower interest expense, while the remainder stems from the beneficial change in tax rate. Our fully diluted share count should stay between 286 million and 287 million shares. Capital expenditures are now anticipated to land between $125 million and $135 million, down from our earlier forecast of $170 million to $180 million, due to project timing and further cost savings. Even though the pace of spending has moved, our projection for cumulative capital expenditures across 2025 through 2027 has not changed. Additionally, we remain on course to meet the $500 million to $600 million cumulative free cash flow commitment we made at our 2024 Investor Day; we still anticipate that the net leverage ratio at the end of 2025 will show improvement over 2024. Lastly, as always, our outlook factors in no M&A activity. I'll hand the call back to Michael now.

Michael Petras

executive
#4

Jon, thanks. We're quite pleased with the quarter's results. Next, I want to bring everyone up to speed on the ethylene oxide, EO, personal injury claims in Cobb County, Georgia. This update is lengthy and goes into a lot of detail, but the key takeaway is this: although the matter remains pending in Cobb County and more work lies ahead, we believe the recent Phase I and Phase II decisions are consistent with the stance we've maintained from the beginning — once science is given a complete, fair and proper hearing, the evidence refutes the allegations the plaintiffs are making in these matters. As a reminder, the Cobb County Court put in place phase proceedings for 8 bellwether cases selected by the plaintiffs Council. The first phase was about general causation. The plaintiffs were instructed by the court that they needed to show that EO emissions from our Atlanta facility can cause the diseases they claim. In November 2024, the court excluded 2 of the 3 general causation experts put forward by the plaintiff, yet it allowed the third expert under a "new standard" that the court devised for these cases — a standard that did not require the plaintiffs to establish the exposure levels at which EO becomes harmful to humans. Both sides filed appeals. On Friday, October 31, the Georgia Court of Appeals rejected the trial court's "new standard" and vacated the trial court's Phase 1 orders. Consistent with the position we've taken, the Court of Appeals directed the trial court to use the proper standard — one that demands causation experts reliably determine the exposure levels at which EO turns harmful. The Court of Appeals further instructed the trial court to weigh whether plaintiffs can establish general causation through epidemiologic evidence and the background risk of the diseases in question, all of which arise in the general population absent any exposure to emissions. During the pendency of the Phase I appeals, 3 of the bellwether cases proceeded to Phase II, which concerned specific causation. There, plaintiffs were required to offer admissible expert testimony showing that the plans received doses of EO from the Atlanta facility sufficient to cause their diseases. The trial court on October 17 excluded each of the three causation experts put forward by the plaintiffs, and then dismissed all three cases because no reliable, admissible proof of specific causation had been offered. Claims for nuisance were also dismissed by the court, which observed that the plaintiffs offered nothing showing the Atlanta facility ran afoul of EPA, Georgia EPD or Cobb County requirements. Although only the 3 bellwether cases fall under the Phase II orders, our view is that the substantive reasoning behind these rulings matters just as much to the personal injury claims that remain. The Cobb County court will resolve that in due course, and the Georgia appellate courts if necessary. As we stand up for the safe and necessary work Sterigenics does, the science will remain at the forefront. You can find this statement, the trial court's Phase I and Phase II orders, and a ruling from the Georgia Court of Appeals on our website. With that, operator, let's begin the question-and-answer portion.

Patrick Donnelly

analyst
#5

Perhaps only one question regarding the volume rebound — it's great to watch that keep going. Are there particular segments where you're observing disproportionately strong improvement? I believe during the prior quarter, you mentioned MedTech and bioproduction somewhat. Could you share what you're noticing in those areas, plus what the outlook for the volume path looks like starting now?

Michael Petras

executive
#6

Patrick, Michael here. We're observing fairly steady results throughout Sterigenics and throughout numerous — nearly every category, bioprocessing, MedTech at large. On the whole, we're witnessing solid volume recovery, and we anticipate that continuing moving forward.

Patrick Donnelly

analyst
#7

All right, sounds good. Then I just have a brief follow-up, hopefully about the newest on the litigation. Maybe a fast one, regarding where a few of those other matters stand; and once more, if it seems like we can keep getting these kinds of updates, but we would really like to hear the most recent on the litigation overall and what your sense is there?

Michael Petras

executive
#8

Yeah. Patrick, Illinois is finishing up. There's an April 2025 settlement that we reached, and it has been finished and shut. The one from July 25th is moving along nicely. That leaves just 1 case still open in Illinois. Regarding Georgia, I already provided a long update on that. As for New Mexico, at present there are no personal injury claims, and only the 1 suit filed by the AG over public nuisance remains, with trial scheduled for July 2026. Then for California, we were told not long ago that the initial trials should happen in January and April of 2027.

Casey Woodring

analyst
#9

Jaden here, filling in for Casey. To start with Sterigenics, I just wanted to ask whether you're building in any assumption around budget flush during 4Q, and since you reaffirmed the full-year revenue outlook following your 3Q, could you speak to how conservative your '25 guidance is and what the puts and takes are behind it?

Michael Petras

executive
#10

Sorry, could you say that question about Sterigenics again? I wasn't certain I caught the first part.

Analyst

analyst
#11

Question from an unidentified analyst: I wanted to ask whether you have included any assumption about a budget flush happening in the fourth quarter.

Michael Petras

executive
#12

When you mention a budget flush, do you mean the government shutdown? Is that the thing you're pointing to with those words?

Analyst

analyst
#13

When you mention MedTech customers, do you mean those in MedTech or in bioprocessing?

Michael Petras

executive
#14

A budget flush isn't something we anticipate — no. Looking ahead, we have confidence in the guidance and outlook we're providing here for the remainder of the year. I wouldn't call it aggressive, and I wouldn't call it conservative. We simply feel confident about where it stands compared with 1 quarter ago.

Analyst

analyst
#15

Okay, I understand. Now, as a follow-up, regarding that government shutdown you brought up: are you noticing any effects on the RCA business, or anywhere else in your portfolio?

Michael Petras

executive
#16

When we examine it — keep in mind, there are no direct government sales within the business. There is a bit of an indirect effect, though it is quite minimal. It is not a material impact. We do experience a small amount of it in Expert Advisory Services, due to certain delays occurring and the activity there. But on the whole, we don't perceive a material impact on the company, and direct sales to the government are not something we have.

Luke Sergott

analyst
#17

I’ve got two items for you. The first concerns the Expert Advisory business. Things appear to have deteriorated further in this area. Is that simply tied to insufficient FDA funding, fewer inspections, and the government shutdown? My second question relates to the implied step down in 4Q EBITDA margin. I’d like to understand what’s driving that. My guess is that it’s likely not Nordion volumes, but I wanted to check whether anything else is at play.

Michael Petras

executive
#18

Yes, I’d say Expert Advisory Services within that RCA business is experiencing some effects from the FDA’s reduced activity. So that is definitely having an impact. It turned out worse than we had anticipated; however, on the whole, it has significantly affected the company’s top line. The impact is roughly 10 points. Jon, is it approximately a 10-point effect?

Jon Lyons

executive
#19

Yes.

Michael Petras

executive
#20

There's a 10-point effect on the top line, but on the whole, core lab testing is getting better, which is exactly what we'd hoped for and expect to keep seeing. Jon, would you also like to take the margin question that Luke raised?

Jon Lyons

executive
#21

Yeah. Luke, when we turn to how margins shape up in Q4, our expectation is that Nelson comes down somewhat relative to where things stand at this Q3 high point. Within Q3, there's an advantage from certain costs that were quite low. Beyond that, Steri has been performing very strongly for us. A modest pullback there is possible, though it isn't anything to worry about, and for Sterigenics, margins across the year should stay steady, perhaps with a small increase over the year.

Dave Windley

analyst
#22

Perhaps I could build on what was said about Nelson and ask this — Michael, is the flip side of this the core lab testing and the improvement we're seeing there? So, when I think about how things balance out, if Expert Advisory is experiencing that headwind and is essentially at the mercy of whatever the government decides regarding funding an FDA, how does the remaining portion of the business appear? And what level of demand exists there?

Michael Petras

executive
#23

Yes. Thank you, David. On the whole, I would say core lab testing is performing quite well. We would prefer to keep witnessing stronger growth. The routine volumes, along with certain flow volumes, are increasing much as we observe with sterilization volumes. Validation has been somewhat uneven. Still, we have several areas, especially involving some of the newer regulations, certain requirements around extractable leachable testing and bioprocessing components and that sort of thing, that are all performing well. So on the whole, we are observing decent growth within the lab testing core. We would prefer it to be stronger. Even so, on the whole, it is heading in the proper direction; and at the most basic level, we continue to see Embedded Labs expansion. The connection to the Sterigenics component and the volumes involved there are plainly producing an effect that is positive.

Dave Windley

analyst
#24

Understood. Then, stepping back somewhat and considering the broader issue regarding the sequential movement in quarter four. As Luke pointed out, there is some margin decline, Jon, which you covered. The top-line expansion your guidance points to also retreats slightly. Therefore, I was curious whether you might discuss the cadence, the timing, items that during the year showed up in Q3 that you perhaps expected would arrive in Q4, that sort of thing relative to — what is the even path that threads through a stronger third quarter and a weaker fourth quarter?

Michael Petras

executive
#25

Yes. Thank you, David. What I would simply say is, we discussed the Nelson remarks and what we are observing within Expert Advisory Services. Thus the other major element we mentioned during the prior quarter, and are now returning to, involves Nordion, the unevenness at Nordion; we stated it would decline considerably compared with the previous year, in quarter four, and that is what you are alluding to. That is the component; we — so a share of it, as we noted in our remarks here, moved forward into Q3 because customers asked, yet on the whole, we continue to anticipate it will fall considerably relative to last year, entirely because of timing. Nevertheless, on the whole, if you consider the full year for Nordion, it will in fact exceed what we had projected, as we likewise mentioned here today. So I believe that represents the remaining element.

Brett Fishbin

analyst
#26

I just had a quick question regarding Nordion. I saw the really robust top-line expansion this quarter, above 22%. But I believe you mentioned there was a bit of margin pressure coming from the mix — and I was just wondering, what kind of mix shift at Nordion was driving some of that margin compression? And will that continue going forward?

Michael Petras

executive
#27

Brett, Michael speaking; so if you take a look at the business, it's hard to discuss margin pressure in Nordion when you consider the margins we delivered in that business. What we're pointing to is product sales, and in particular production of radiators equipment sales. That carries a lower margin, and we experienced some growth there during the quarter. We'll see that intermittently from time to time, but we don't view that as a material impact over the long term. The margin rates remain very strong in that business, as you're aware.

Brett Fishbin

analyst
#28

That's a reasonable observation. Then, regarding Sterigenics, seeing a second quarter with significantly better trends for that segment was genuinely encouraging. I'm simply wondering how you view the general durability of, say, growth in the mid- to high single-digit range, or high single-digit growth, as we look toward 2026; and perhaps, in a way of offering guidance, whether there are any important moving parts you'd highlight for the coming year, apart from possibly tougher comparisons.

Michael Petras

executive
#29

Yeah. Great. Look, the Sterigenics team is something we take pride in; their execution has been very strong; we've stated that our long-range guide for that business would be mid-single digits to high single digits; we're reaffirming that; and I'd simply add that, on the whole, guidance will come when we provide it at the start of next year; but on the whole, when we consider the long-range commitments we set out during the Investor Day last November, we continue to feel quite confident about that; so we're in a good position. We'll discuss '26 once we're there.

Jason Bednar

analyst
#30

Jason, nice work on this quarter. I'd like to begin with Sterigenics pricing, which slowed just a touch. Sure, we're only discussing tens of basis points sequentially. Still, my sense is that over recent quarters you've been running 50 to 60 basis points lower versus the prior year. On top of that, this strikes me as the weakest pricing benefit in no less than a few years. Obviously it remains solid, stronger than plenty of other health care verticals. That said, at what point do you expect this pricing contribution to level off? Do we need to slide to a lower level, and then perhaps the follow-up would be — I believe you've mentioned before that given the investments being made in your facilities, bigger pricing opportunities exist at Sterigenics; could that mean something of a turnaround as we consider Sterigenics pricing ahead?

Michael Petras

executive
#31

Yeah. Thank you, Jason. Back in November of last year, we discussed company-wide price at 3% to 4%. We indicated Sterigenics would sit at the top end of that band, and essentially that's where they're landing. We expect that to carry on. No worries on our side regarding it. It's 3.8%, 3.94%. That's precisely in that vicinity. That's what we're seeing. Calling it with that much precision isn't possible. However, we're also examining certain NESHAP possibilities, and those, we'd say, might layer on top of that down the road as that program is deployed and the regulations become established in the marketplace. So that would sit above that run rate.

Jason Bednar

analyst
#32

All right. Then, perhaps regarding — to build on what was just mentioned, Michael, you brought up that opportunity across time. Is that largely something for after 2026 — I'm not seeking guidance for 2026 — but is that remark about the period following 2026, given that your NESHAP compliance remains — still several quarters away. And separately, I'm grateful for all the information you provided regarding the litigation update, particularly the extensive detail about Georgia. I — we will receive the specifics once the Q gets filed, but could you bring us up to speed on how many cases exist in California. I believe we didn't hear that, apart from merely the beginning of the — a few of those case dates?

Michael Petras

executive
#33

Yes. My apologies, your second part was pulling my attention away. Jason, what was the first portion of your question once more?

Jon Lyons

executive
#34

After 2026.

Michael Petras

executive
#35

Oh, on the NESHAP, after 2026 — sorry, I stumbled a bit there. What I'd say is that we're collaborating with our customers to figure out the right approach for pricing in the capital improvements we've made at our facilities, and that will ramp up gradually. Right, the NESHAP schedule has slipped somewhat. So we'll coordinate with our customers on that. But over time, you'll see steady gains from that incremental price. Again, as you mentioned, we'd rather not reach 2026, but we'll provide proper guidance on this for '26 and '27 and '28 as we examine that pricing and NESHAP. Regarding California, there are 83 personal injury claims.

Mike Polark

analyst
#36

Nelson, when I work through the numbers for the fourth quarter, it looks roughly flat compared with a year earlier on a constant currency basis. Clearly, the comparison becomes less demanding as we move past this headwind in advisory services. What I want to ask concerns 2026 — I'm not requesting formal guidance — but now that this significant advisory services headwind is included, is it fair, based on what you observe in routine testing, to anticipate that Nelson will get back to growth in 2026?

Michael Petras

executive
#37

Yes. Yes. That follows logically, Mike. We aren't providing guidance for 2026, but your approach to thinking about it is correct.

Mike Polark

analyst
#38

Regarding Sterigenics, my next question — during the prior quarter, following that obvious step-up you reported and a solid figure posted by a rival, the conversation centered on how orders were being placed before tariffs took effect. So what I want to know is, once 3 to 6 months had passed, can you now gauge more accurately whether during Q2 or Q3 there might have been some additional ordering pulled ahead by MedTech clients repositioning their supply chains prior to Trump tariffs.

Michael Petras

executive
#39

Correct; we — like I've said previously, our team runs a fairly stringent set of commercial reviews alongside purchasing reviews. What we observe is extremely limited fallout from all of that. I'd say — the sole cause I'm even bringing this up is that a handful of our sites exist. Looking backward, a few stat fees arrived involving urgent customer requests, yet none of it was significant. Considering the entire size of the operation — roughly $300 million in revenue each quarter throughout the whole company, or $190-some million within Sterigenics — we cannot identify anything meaningful.

Michael Petras

executive
#40

Okay, thanks. Once again we delivered outstanding performance this quarter, with strong top-line growth, wider margins, and a stronger financial position, correct? We are designed for durability and growth that lasts. Because our expertise-driven revenue stream is steady and repeatable, we can serve clients operating in heavily regulated sectors and produce dependable outcomes across different economic conditions; we'd like to express our gratitude to both our customers and our investors for the trust and partnership you keep giving us. We value that support, and we're eager to talk with you once more in the next quarter, and take care. Thanks.

Operator

operator
#41

That brings us to the end of this call. We appreciate everyone joining the presentation today. You're free to leave the line now.

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