Sphere Entertainment Co. (SPHR) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

July 30, 2026

NYSE US Communication Services Entertainment earnings 33 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Good morning. Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Sphere Entertainment Co. Second Quarter 2026 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn the call over to Ari Danes, Investor Relations. Ari, please go ahead.

Ari Danes

executive
#2

Thank you. Good morning, and welcome to Sphere Entertainment's Second Quarter 2026 Earnings Conference Call. Today's call will begin with our Executive Chairman and CEO, Jim Dolan, who will provide an update on our business. Robert Langer, our Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer, will then review our financial results for the period. After our prepared remarks, we'll open up the call for questions. If you do not have a copy of today's earnings release, it is available in the Investors section of our corporate website. Please take note of the following. Today's discussion may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Any such forward-looking statements are not guarantees of future performance or results and involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements. Please refer to the company's filings with the SEC for a discussion of risks and uncertainties. The company disclaims any obligation to update any forward-looking statements that may be discussed during this call. On Pages 4 and 5 of today's earnings release, we provide consolidated statements of operations and a reconciliation of operating income to adjusted operating income, or AOI, a non-GAAP financial measure. And with that, I'll now turn the call over to Jim.

James Dolan

executive
#3

Thank you, Ari, and good morning, everyone. For today's call, I'd like to discuss our progress in 2 important areas of the business, expanding the Sphere venue footprint around the world and developing a diverse slate of original content. In Abu Dhabi, we recently announced Sphere site location on Yas Island. Construction for Sphere is now underway and is expected to be completed by the end of 2029. Here in the U.S., we continue to advance our plans for Sphere at National Harbor. We expect to complete an agreement for third-party financing in the near term. This funding would be in addition to $200 million in state, local and private incentives. The contemplated structure would give us full operational control of the venue day-to-day. This would also allow us to consolidate the venue's financials and retain more of its economics. In addition, we recently filed our detailed site plan with Prince George's County as we work towards securing necessary permits. We continue to believe the venue could be open in under 4 years. We also remain in discussions with a significant number of markets regarding large and small-scale Spheres. At the same time, we continue to focus on developing a diverse slate of original experiences. Last month, we announced a new experience, the Rocky Horror Picture Show at Sphere, which we expect to debut in 2027. Bringing this production to Sphere will expand our content slate to a new genre. It also allows us to extend Sphere Experience showing later into the evening, increasing the utilization of the venue. Meanwhile, the Wizard of Oz at Sphere has now sold nearly 3.6 million tickets for approximately $450 million in ticket sales. We also remain in discussion with IP holders for other potential Sphere experiences. We will keep you updated on our progress. Turning briefly to MSG Networks. Yesterday, we announced the partnership making DAZN our exclusive direct-to-consumer streaming home. We believe both our subscribers and content will benefit from DAZN state-of-the-art platform. We have also continued to reduce the amount of debt at MSG Networks, which was down to $116 million at quarter end. As a reminder, that debt is nonrecourse to Sphere. So in summary, we are advancing plans across key areas of our business as we make headway towards our long-term vision for a global network of Sphere venues. And with that, I'll turn the call over to Robert, who will take you through our financial results.

Robert Langer

executive
#4

Thank you, Jim, and good morning, everyone. For the June quarter, we generated total company revenues of $313.6 million and adjusted operating income of $50.9 million. Our Sphere segment generated revenues of $226.4 million, an increase of nearly 30% compared to the prior year period. This growth was mainly driven by the Sphere experience, primarily reflecting higher virtual revenues for The Wizard of Oz at Sphere. As Jim mentioned, The Wizard of Oz is performing well as it nears its 1-year anniversary. We also continue to work on both The Wizard of Oz 2.0, an enhanced version of the production as well as Postcard from Earth. Turning back to our results for the quarter. We also saw revenue growth in Exosphere advertising, sponsorship and suite license fees and concert residencies. This was partially offset by the impact of fewer brand events held at Sphere year-over-year. Second quarter adjusted operating income for our Sphere segment was $39.9 million as compared to $24.9 million in the prior year quarter. This reflected the increase in revenues, partially offset by higher SG&A expenses and direct operating expenses. The increase in direct operating expenses includes the impact of the Wizard of Oz at Sphere, mainly a result of higher per-show expenses. This was partially offset by lower expenses from brand events and other cost increases. SG&A expenses for the second quarter were $125.6 million, an increase of $29.2 million. This increase includes the impact of mark-to-market adjustments for certain share-based compensation awards, driven by the appreciation in the company's stock price during the quarter. I would also note that we cash settled over half of these awards during the quarter. Therefore, all else being equal, the mark-to-market impact will be lessened in future periods. Turning to MSG Networks. The segment generated $87.3 million in revenues and $11 million in AOI in the second quarter. This compares to $107.1 million in revenues and $36.5 million in AOI in the prior year period. These year-over-year results reflect an approximately 16.5% decrease in subscribers as well as a decrease in advertising revenue. These results also reflect the impact of retroactive adjustments for the 2024-25 season recorded in the prior year second quarter related to amendments for media rights agreements with MSG Sports and certain other professional teams. Turning to our balance sheet. As of June 30, our Sphere business had approximately $534 million of unrestricted cash and cash equivalents, $259 million in converted debt and the $275 million term loan related to Sphere in Las Vegas. At MSG Networks, as of June 30, net debt was approximately $98 million. As Jim mentioned, this included $116 million outstanding on the MSG Networks term loan, which again is debt that is recourse only to MSG Networks. And with that, we'll now open the call for questions.

Operator

operator
#5

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of David Karnovsky with JPMorgan.

David Karnovsky

analyst
#6

Jim, with Wizard of Oz, can you discuss how you see the progression of attendance from launch until now in terms of seasonality and maybe getting past that initial period of demand? And then how does that inform your view of the show from here as you lap the anniversary and look to put enhancements into the experience?

James Dolan

executive
#7

The show is performing very, very well. And it is subject to basically everything in Vegas is the seasonality, and we're in the middle of the summer, which is definitely the low season for it. But it's still doing very, very well. And I anticipate -- we could run Wizard of Oz for a long, long time and do very well with it. But that -- our plans really are to come out with the new version of Wizard of Oz sometime we hope in December. Excuse me, September, not December, and then, of course, the -- in March to add in Rocky Horror Picture Show, which will give us the ability to service families in the daytime and then a more adult audience in the evening. And I think that's going to work very well. But look, I always look at -- if you take a look at the show O in Las Vegas, right, which has been running now for over 30 years. And it doesn't seem like the appetite for that show has really diminished at all. The -- and I think that Wiz could easily go 10 years, playing in other spheres, occasionally playing in Vegas, et cetera. I think there's always going to be an audience for that product. And that's one of the reasons that we picked it was because it's so universally loved and it has tremendous legs and we'll have some fun modifications and additions that we'll make starting for 2.0, including that you're going to go for a ride with a wit and new kinds of flying monkeys. So I think you're going to see that the product remains robust in its demand. And if I could make more Wizard of Oz, I definitely would.

Operator

operator
#8

Your next question comes from the line of Stephen Laszczyk with Goldman Sachs.

Stephen Laszczyk

analyst
#9

Jim, you mentioned Rocky Horror represents a different genre of content for the Sphere. It also gives you the opportunity to show content on a different schedule compared to what you've historically shown was. I was wondering if you could maybe talk a little bit more about this, how investors should think about the role of complementary IP within the broader content strategy as well as the opportunity it could afford you to increase show count over time at the Sphere.

James Dolan

executive
#10

Look, the Rocky Horror picture show, I think, is going to be -- I think it's going to be a smash just take a step to the left. but the -- it's a little like movie theaters in a way in that you -- the content fits the daytime and what time you're showing it, et cetera. But the whole business equation, the strategy here is to create reusable content that goes from Sphere to Sphere, et cetera. And nobody in Abu Dhabi has seen Rocky Horror Picture Show. So I'm wondering how they're going to like that. And the Wiz, the same thing is true of National Harbor, et cetera. So as we continue to build out Spheres, our ability to create and monetize content also increases. And I really would like to get ahead of that as much as we can before the openings of these venues because I just think it will make their results even more robust.

Operator

operator
#11

Your next question comes from the line of Brandon Ross with LightShed.

Brandon Ross

analyst
#12

Jim, regardless of the seasonality and whatever it is that's impacting Oz, I think we can all agree it's been a pretty massive hit and the concert calendar in Vegas is already really full. So with that in mind, can you take a step back and talk about what the growth levers are for the Las Vegas Sphere specifically in 2027 and beyond?

James Dolan

executive
#13

Sure. You're right about concerts, right? As I've said in previous calls, right, we're not shy of demand from artists to come play to Sphere. And we have some great artists coming up, which I'm not going to tell you their names today. But the whole strategy, the business strategy behind the creation of Sphere is utilization of the venue. And that's where the growth -- that's where we look at the growth to come, right? The Madison Square Garden, right, runs approximately 200-and-something events a year. And it is hamstrung by the fact that you have to load in, you have to load out, it's different shows. But of course, the Garden does very well. But when we created Sphere and created the business model around it, it was all about increasing utilization and increasing utilization through our own IP and our own content. So I mean, we're going to continue to pursue that. I don't think that we have refined the model to the point where we've maximized the revenue potential there. And I think we have new products that some of which we haven't talked about and won't talk about at this point that will increase the utilization. And that's where I think the growth will come. So.

Operator

operator
#14

Your next question comes from the line of Matt Condon with Citizens Bank.

Matthew Condon

analyst
#15

Jim, in terms of original content, do you have the capacity to take on additional projects? And has the time to market gotten shorter since the development of the Wizard of Oz? And just relatedly, how many Sphere experiences could we expect to be playing in the venue by the end of 2027?

James Dolan

executive
#16

Okay. That's a good question. The first part of it is really about how quickly we make and how efficiently we make it. And we are definitely getting faster and becoming more efficient. Rocky Horror is a good example. I mean, Wizard of Oz really took 2 years to make and Rocky Hour Picture Show is going to take less than 12 months. And we're getting better at it, particularly when it comes to the use of AI and the production techniques that we developed for Wizard of Oz. So I expect that we'll be able to create more content at a less expensive and more efficient fashion. And that will bode well for, of course, for Vegas, but for the other Spheres. How many will we have by the end of '27? It's just a guess, Matt, but I'd say 3 to 4.

Operator

operator
#17

Your next question comes from the line of Ryan Sigdahl with Craig-Hallum.

Ryan Sigdahl

analyst
#18

Jim, on National Harbor, can you explain why you think the OpCo model is advantageous versus a traditional franchise model? And then second to that, if you have interest in pursuing a similar structure for future Spheres and if there could be situations where you maybe pursue multiple different operating models.

James Dolan

executive
#19

Okay. Well, look, the -- I'll answer part of this. Finger will answer the other part of it. Do we think that National Harbor is the optimal model? I know -- look, it's the model that works for National Harbor. The -- but -- the idea here is to build as many of them right, as quickly as we can, right, because that helps the overall business strategy. Now I'm going to let [ Dick ] talk about what we're thinking about with National Harbor.

Robert Langer

executive
#20

Sure. As Jim mentioned, as we look at the overall expansion strategy, we analyzed several financing structures. We see a number of benefits for what we call a build-to-suit and leaseback structure for National Harbor, similar to a sale leaseback, but it's really build-to-suit because it's new construction. First, the third-party partner that would fund the total construction of the venue. While that third party will own the venue, we will enter into a long-term lease and have day-to-day operational control of the venue, which we think is really important given our business in Las Vegas and leveraging off of our whole management team and operational structure. We'll also fully consolidate the National Harbor results on our financials. And I think most importantly, this type of financing will enable us to retain more of the AOI and also the potential upside in the future. And I think lastly, as Jim mentioned, as we look at other structures, it could be a combination. It could be a franchise strategy, it could be the build-to-suit. It could be a minority equity investment. It could also include debt structures. So we will really look at each one individually and look to maximize our returns.

James Dolan

executive
#21

I think the thing about these structures is that a, we're looking to go fast and build as many as we can. And by utilizing multiple structures, our availability of capital, right, it's not unlimited, but it's quite robust. So that really helps us move the strategy along.

Ryan Sigdahl

analyst
#22

If I may ask one quick follow-up on that. You own Vegas, MSG owns the Garden. They benefited from value appreciation of the real estate of the property. There's a ton of IP in the spheres. I guess, why not self-finance this if you want to operate it and keep control of it?

James Dolan

executive
#23

We're not -- we don't rule that out, right? I think you have to look at each project, right? I mean, look, if we were to build a sphere here in New York, I think the likelihood is we want to own it, maybe in conjunction with MSGE. But the thing is that our goal, as I said before, is to go fast, right, and to build as many as we. you got to take that in mind when you look at the structure, as many as I can build, I'm going to build as the capital is there, right? And the goal is going to be the goal. It's going to be to go fast, right? I really want 5 years from now to be 5, 6 years from now have 5 venues up or more and have another 5 that are under construction. And if we can figure out how to construct them faster, which we are working on all the time, right, we do that, too.

Operator

operator
#24

Your next question comes from the line of Peter Henderson with Bank of America.

Peter Henderson

analyst
#25

First, let me congratulate you on the next championship, Jim. And then on Sphere, can you just provide some color on the progress of expansion discussions? And do you think there's a possibility that there's another expansion announcement coming in 2026? Or is it more likely to be a 2027 event?

James Dolan

executive
#26

I'll answer the second part of it first. Yes, I'm hopeful I think it's very possible we'll have another announcement this year. We're in pretty serious discussions with a couple of different marketplaces, et cetera. And so yes, I think we can get -- I think we would be -- if it's not by the end of this year, certainly by the first quarter, I'll be disappointed if we don't have something -- have another one by looking at my people telling me I have another one to announce by first quarter. So -- but -- and what was the first part of the question?

Peter Henderson

analyst
#27

I was just congratulating on the next championship. I know on the previous call, you were concerned about SGA, you didn't have to worry about him, but.

James Dolan

executive
#28

All right. New York-based analysts, et cetera, I will give you a little soundbite on the Knicks, right? We're going to have the most fun season as fans that we've ever had in my ownership, right, with the Knicks that upcoming. The team is coming back pretty much intact. You know who they are now. You know each one of those personalities. You're going to be with them on every dribble, every basket, every free throw, et cetera. And it should just be a lot of fun. And if it turns out really well, we'll do another parade somewhere in New York.

Peter Henderson

analyst
#29

Awesome looking forward to it.

Operator

operator
#30

Your next question comes from the line of Peter Supino with Wolfe Research.

Peter Supino

analyst
#31

I wondered if you would update us on your capacity. To develop new Spheres and play the various consulting or principal roles that you would play in new Spheres, whether they be franchised or owned. The bottom line is, can you still support the simultaneous development of 5 or 6 Spheres, which I think was your vision in the past? And the second question just relates to National Harbor. Could you sort of take us on a history lesson of how you're thinking about financing National Harbor has evolved. When we started, I think it was likely to be a version of a franchise arrangement, and now it sounds like a principal structure. And I'm wondering what you learned on that journey and what we can extrapolate to the future.

James Dolan

executive
#32

Was there a question in there? [ Dick ], do you want to?

Robert Langer

executive
#33

Yes, no problem. Look, in terms of expansion and the ability to work on 5 to 6 spheres simultaneously, as we said on prior calls, we have the capacity to do that. We have an in-house development and construction team that, as Jim mentioned, is not only working on the current ones we have. In Abu Dhabi, we consult on that build. They're obviously constructing it and building it, but we have a consulting team internal that's working on it because it's such a bespoke venue. Obviously, National Harbor, our team will be building that, and we think they can obviously take on another 2, 3, 4 over the coming 1.5 years. So as Jim mentioned, to have 5 spheres opened in 5-plus years is our goal. And to have other ones in construction at that time, we think we have the capacity to do that. With respect to your question on National Harbor and financing, I think we did answer that before. Look, the sale leaseback structure that we're talking about, we think is the right one for National Harbor. With Abu Dhabi, the franchise model was the right one. Obviously, they are funding and they'll own the entire Sphere in a market that's across the globe from us. We have a great partnership with them, and we'll have franchise fees and royalties associated with it. So as we mentioned, it will be market-by-market. I think domestically, you'll see much more of a probably owned or a sale leaseback with a full operational control. And internationally, it will depend on the market, depending on whether it's in the Middle East is different. We might look at it differently in Asia versus Europe. So we'll take each one. And again, as we mentioned before, from a financing perspective, it's all going to depend upon having the maximum ROI.

James Dolan

executive
#34

Yes. In terms of the capacity to build, right, what's interesting to sort of look at is the difference between National Harbor in Abu Dhabi, right? What we're doing in Abu Dhabi is that the -- it's basically our design, right? And we're overseeing helping oversee the construction process, but there is a general contractor there, as there are general contractors all around the world, right? So our ability in terms of accessing that part of the build, right, we're relying on the whole construction marketplace, which, I mean, I think it's robust. I mean it's fine. We should -- if we had 3 or 4 Spheres under construction, I would anticipate we have different general contractors, right, different local contractors, et cetera, and we'd be matching. Our -- the choke point for us, right, going from Vegas to other Spheres has been the design work, right, and the whole pipeline of going from materials to construction to labor, et cetera. And that's what we've been working on actually consistently since we opened up Sphere. So we settled down the model pretty well to things like a tech stack, right? It's the same tech stack in Abu Dhabi as it is in National Harbor as it was in Vegas, and it will be similar -- the same tech stack. So once you know how to do it, right, and you've got the design for it, right, et cetera, you can go faster. And that's where we're focused on.

Peter Supino

analyst
#35

I think it's worth revisiting the question on National Harbor. There's a consensus among investors or at least a view that the strategy at National Harbor initially was to bring in an equity partner and that today, the strategy focuses on bringing in debt financing and owning all of the equity. Is that perception among investors inaccurate?

James Dolan

executive
#36

Look, the Yes. I mean I think that if you're looking at a cookie-cutter approach, right, to how we fund these things, I'm telling you that we're not going to use a cookie-cutter approach, right? We're going to look at each project. I mean, I love the idea of having local investors, right? They add to the overall think tank of each one of those projects, right? And if you can find one that's strategic for you, right, I mean, like for instance, in National Harbor, right, they're not an investor, but we're right by the convention center and the hotel casino complex, et cetera, and that's strategic. So getting strategic investors helps, too. We're focused on getting as many of these started and built. And we're not -- we are by no means tied wed to just one method of financing. We're going to keep looking at and taking advantage of whatever works best for that particular project in terms of financing. So looking at and say, well, they're only doing it this way. That's definitely not the case. The -- we're going to be as efficient and strategic with our capital as we can be as we always have been as a company.

Operator

operator
#37

Your next question comes from the line of David Joyce with Seaport.

David Joyce

analyst
#38

You had nice growth in the sponsorship signage and Exosphere related revenue line. What were some drivers there? And could you give us your thoughts on the momentum and the next few quarters' outlook?

James Dolan

executive
#39

I'm passing that one to my Chief Operating Officer. Jen?

Jennifer Koester

executive
#40

Thanks, Jim. Thanks, David. So as you mentioned before, we did have significant growth in this category this quarter, and we're really seeing the momentum in this side of the business continue. I think in addition to growth opportunity in terms of venue utilization, we also see the Exosphere and sponsorship business as a true growth driver for us in the next few quarters as well as into next year. Some of the things that we continue to drive the growth is we've got big brands coming in spending dollars with us for impactful moments. So large brands like Verizon coming in on the World Cup or a Dolby coming in to do a takeover when they were in Vegas for their multi-day summit. We've got a very strong pipeline of official top partnerships in the works. And what that means is we'll continue to secure more multi-year sponsorship deals. So I think we remain on track in growth for '26, and I think we've got good potential of pipeline deals for '27 to continue to drive growth.

Operator

operator
#41

We have reached the end of the Q&A session. I will now turn the call back to Ari for closing remarks.

Ari Danes

executive
#42

Thank you all for joining us. We look forward to speaking with you on our third quarter earnings call. Have a good day.

Operator

operator
#43

This concludes today's call. Thank you for attending. You may now disconnect.

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