Steel & Tube Holdings Limited (STU) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
February 23, 2025
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Operator
operatorThank you for standing by, and welcome to the Steel & Tube Holdings Limited FY '25 Interim Results Call. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to hand the conference over to Mr. Mark Malpass, CEO. Please go ahead.
Mark Malpass
executiveThank you, and welcome to everyone on the call today. Here with me is Richard Smyth, Steel & Tube's CFO. We're excited to share with you details on a transaction we've announced today, then we'll discuss our 2025 interim results and performance. We have time for questions at the end. For us, strategic growth is about, firstly, going deeper and wider in high-value areas. Secondly, it's about improving our mix of non-commoditized products. And lastly, it's about investing in new products and services that will provide value to our customers. We're in a strong position to leverage our M&A opportunities that are in front of us. We have $17.5 million of cash reserves, no borrowings and a $100 million facility in place at the end of December 2024. Today, we've announced the conditional acquisition of Perry Metal Protection, Perry Grating and Waikato Sand Blasting for $43.5 million, plus a 2- to 3-year earnout of $6 million. The acquisition, including earnout, will be fully funded with a mixture of debt at 70% and equity at 30%. We expect to be earnings accretive from day 1 and settlement is expected in May 2025 once all conditions are met. This is a great addition for our business. It introduces a new high-value service and product offer for our customers. It's less cyclical than other parts of our business. It's highly aligned with our customer base as well as trusted brands with a national reach. The transaction is for Perry Metal Protection, Perry Grating and Waikato Sand Blasting. Perry Metal Protection is New Zealand's largest and leading corrosion protection and treatment expert with a 44% market share in hot dip galvanizing. This is a process that coats metal and zinc to protect it from corrosion and oxidization, creating a durable layer that can last for decades. In other words, substantially extending the life of steel, which is already a highly sustainable and recyclable product. The grating business is primarily used in the industrial and commercial construction sectors, for example, flooring, steel treads, drain covers, trenches and mezzanine flooring. Products are typically fabricated to customer specifications. Waikato Sand Blasting provides high-quality blasting services on a wide range of items, including structural steel, heavy equipment and vehicles. The acquisition price is equal to the previous 3-year average EBITDA multiple of 4.8x, making it an attractive acquisition. Revenue last year was around $36 million and normalized EBITDA was just over $9 million. We estimate an accretive $0.015 earnings per share will be delivered in the first 12 months of ownership. We have good experience integrating new businesses and planning is already underway. We've estimated integration costs of about $800,000 and an initial assessment of the synergy benefits is for at least $1 million EBITDA per annum following integration. Growth is a key part of our strategy and we've successfully invested in a number of new products and services over the past 4 years. We're excited to welcome the Perry Group of businesses to Steel & Tube. We have an experienced team on board. We're confident in the value of the business having completed 6 months due diligence and we have a proven track record in this area. In fact, I was on a call with our team earlier today and they're very excited with the cross-sell opportunities that the business will bring to us. Steel & Tube is obviously a cyclical business and the economic and market conditions during the first 6 months of this financial year were the most challenging we've seen in decades. We have a track record of navigating through these challenging conditions and the strong fundamentals that we've put in place will set us up to deliver material earnings growth when activity returns. Our first half 2025 financial year results are reflective of the recessionary environment that we've been in with lower customer activity impacting our volume and earnings. We've continued to increase our operating leverage with a focus on higher-margin products and cost management and efficiencies. This will drive profitability as the economy recovers. We've maintained tight control over our working capital and inventory levels have further reduced with priority being investment in high-value products and key inventory lines. So, our balance sheet remains strong with net cash of $17.5 million and a $100 million bank facility, providing resilience and opportunity -- optionality for investment in growth. Demand for steel remains at the lowest level since the 1990s, and the cycle bottom has been longer than we anticipated. Pleasingly, this now seems to have bottomed out and we are starting to see early signs of market improvement with improved customer sentiment and demand. Interest rates continue to lower. There has been an upswing in business confidence and inflation pressures are easing. It's worth noting around 4 and every 5 mortgage loans are expected to be re-fixed this year at a lower rate, meaning disposable income should support increased activity in renovations and housing. Our team continues to deliver excellent service to our customers with a focus on maintaining market share, while our sales team is doing a great job responding to the increase in the number of tenders that we're now receiving. We're continuing to prioritize our cash flows and inventory and are well positioned for the economic recovery. Our goal is to build share of sales in growth sectors, so manufacturing, infrastructure, commercial and residential construction. As you can see by the next 2 charts, we have been operating with reduced activity across all of these sectors over the last 6 to 12 months. Manufacturing and commercial construction make up the largest percentage of our sales and sentiment in manufacturing has improved, as you would have all seen last month. However, it does remain subdued. Commercial construction has also contracted and should improve as interest rates reduce and we are already seeing a lift in tenders for reinforcing steel, which is usually the first step in the business process. As has been well traversed, there has been a steep decline in residential construction activity. Alongside this, we have seen corresponding intensity in competition and pricing pressure across the construction sector. It was good to see the building sector was one of the most upbeat in the recent NZIER Business Confidence Survey. However, we're conscious it will take some time for an increase in the pipeline to translate into construction activity. Feedback from residential group homebuilders we work with is that there has been an increase in new home build inquiries since the OCR rates have been lowered and expectations of a housing market pickup during 2025 are mounting. Infrastructure has also been constrained. However, the long-term outlook is positive with a $68 billion government spend over the next 5 years in addition to local and regional projects. There's 149 projects that have been approved for the Fast Track consenting process, many of which will require steel solutions where we have specialist expertise such as roads, bridges, dams, port infrastructure, housing developments and renewable energy projects. We've seen an uptick in the number of tenders over the past 6 months compared to the same period in the prior year with some big projects on the horizon such as Auckland Airport, Dunedin Hospital and Ferry Terminals. We presented this conceptual chart with our last set of results. In our view, we are at or near the bottom of the cycle in our main sectors and positive signs are starting to emerge with lower interest rates, increased government investment in infrastructure and improved business confidence levels of investment. We expect market challenges to reduce in severity this year and we will continue to manage them appropriately. The responses that we have undertaken to date are helping to mitigate the impact on our business. Our dual pathway strategy is delivering value as we continue to strengthen the core and grow high-value products and services. It's also worth representing this graph, which shows the significant improvement in earnings or our operating leverage that flows as volumes increase. We have a large proportion of our costs that are fixed, so our earnings will benefit from volume growth. Our focus is on high-value products and lower costs is also improving net operating leverage, which will magnify our earnings growth when demand does return. You can see in this chart the additional revenue and earnings being delivered from our recent investments. We're seeing a lot of opportunities come forward and we have several still in active review in addition to Perry Metal Protection transaction we announced today. Investing in new products is also part of our growth strategy. And for example, we are launching a new roofing profile in April which will first -- will be the first new profile the market has seen in many years. As New Zealand's only brands approved trade profile product, we expect a high adoption rate from architects for New Zealand's premier home segment. So, with strong cash flows and good cash reserves and no debt, our balance sheet has provided us with the ability to progress opportunities such as Perry Metal Protection. Our priority focus for the second half of the year is to capture revenue and drive profitability in a weaker market while positioning our company to benefit from the expected increase in demand from mid-2025 onwards. We are targeting $7 million in annualized costs out for the financial year 2025. Now this is versus the $5 million we were initially expecting. And we continue to focus on efficiencies and optimizing resources across the business. Managing cash flows and inventory remains key and we are supporting gross margin improvement with a focus on high-value products and services. I'll now hand over to Richard Smyth to talk about our financial results in more detail.
Richard Smyth
executiveThanks, Mark. Lower volumes and revenue were reflective of weaker customer demand across all sectors and products. While margins remain competitive, there has been some compression due to competitive pricing. Normalized earnings were down year-on-year and we reported a net loss after tax of $10.4 million, which included $1.4 million of one-off and non-trading costs. Given the ongoing weak economy, the Board has taken a prudent approach to cash management and no interim dividend has been declared. The key driver of our results is volumes, which, as Mark has already mentioned, is reflective of the current recessionary environment. Revenues declined 25% year-on-year with softer customer demand across a range of sectors due to the challenging macro conditions. Steel & Tube is more heavily weighted towards steel rather than metals, which has been more adversely impacted by the recession. In a lower volume environment, some competitors are actively driving price, which is having a short-term impact on margins. Gross margin dollars per tonne has reduced but remains a priority focus. Improvements will be driven by customer value-add, cross-selling, pricing discipline and cost control as well as a strategic focus on higher-value products and services. We expect to see gross margin improve as economic conditions return to a more normal setting. We have identified further efficiencies and are now targeting $7 million in annualized OpEx savings this year, up $2 million on our previous plan. Initiatives are mostly focused around optimizing our team, tight control over discretionary spending, procurement efficiencies and other savings. The Roadex freight acquisition is performing ahead of expectations and delivering valuable cost efficiencies. The end result is a more efficient and more streamlined company that optimizes the use of all of our resources. Although it's easing, inflation still has a considerable impact on the first 6 months. However, the cost-out program is more than offsetting inflationary pressure. The impact of lower volumes on normalized earnings has been partially offset by higher margins on recent growth investments and cost out. As you can see, the drop in volumes and pricing pressure were the main drivers for the lower earnings result. We have a strong balance sheet, providing support during challenging times and enabling continued investment in growth. Inventory was further reduced. Operating cash flows remained strong and net cash was $17.5 million at period end, representing a $9 million improvement from the 30th of June '24. We have no debt and a $100 million undrawn facility to fund growth and other initiatives. We continue to carefully manage inventory to ensure customer availability while shifting product mix towards higher-value products. Inventory levels have been reduced in line with activity and we were down just under $12 million since June '24. Our finished product prices remain at elevated levels. We continue to carefully manage cash flow with benefits from the decrease in inventory and good cash collections in a softened trading environment. Major cash flows were dividends, CapEx and lease payments. Thank you. I'll now pass you back to Mark.
Mark Malpass
executiveLooking at the second half of the financial year from January to June, while we expect the market to remain challenging for the next few months, pleasingly, we are seeing some positive signs, which we expect to translate into demand growth from mid- to late 2025, which is the first half year of the 2026 financial year. Manufacturing is poised to grow, supported by recovery of both domestic and international markets. Interest rate cuts over the coming year are expected to stimulate commercial and residential construction markets with homeowners benefiting from lower mortgage payments. In terms of infrastructure, there is some shorter-term government-funded projects such as the Dunedin Hospital that are encouraging. Longer term, there is significant need for new infrastructure and maintenance of existing infrastructure. The government's 5-year infrastructure budget of $68 billion, along with initiatives under the Fast-Track Approvals Act will lead to increased project work, although it will take time before the project work begins. There is a large pipeline of work ahead and we are well positioned to capitalize on this. Our dual pathway strategy is now delivering tangible results and this remains the framework for our actions as we continue to strengthen our core and build high-value products and services. We are navigating a challenging difficult trading environment and are well positioned for demand as growth returns. We have maintained market share. We have a loyal customer base and we have quality inventory, meaning that we can provide the products and services we know customers will need when their projects start up again. Steel is one of the most essential and often the only product for many construction needs. The macro trends for our sector remains strong and we have the balance sheet and expertise to support our growth strategy and deliver value for our shareholders. We are well positioned to deliver material earnings growth as activity increases. Thank you for listening. I'll now hand back to the operator to manage questions.
Operator
operatorThank you. [Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from Rohan Koreman-Smit from Forsyth Barr.
Rohan Koreman-Smit
analystI was just wondering if you could talk to, I guess, initial trading for this year. I know it's hard to get a read given it's only a couple of months in and they're full of holidays. But are we kind of still running at the same sort of run rates that you saw at the back end of last year? Or has there been a little bit of a pickup in activity?
Mark Malpass
executiveRohan, I'll take that question. I guess, yes, it's continued to be pretty tough months so far. January was a 13-day month. So in December, 15-day month, January, 13-day month, so very short trading period. So, January was tough. February has been tough to date, although, as I mentioned earlier, we have seen a pickup in activity this month right through the businesses. So reinforcing, as I mentioned on the call, we've had a number of new project inquiries that are stacking up. In fact, we've had to take on another estimator in that area. On the roofing side, we've seen a pickup in daily sales rates through those businesses. Coil and processing, same thing. And distribution, most importantly, we've seen a reasonable tick up in our daily sales trading volumes, which is encouraging and channel checks out there in the market supporting that as well. So, now this is on a fairly low base, Rohan. So -- and again, February is only an 18-day trading month. But I think as we start picking back up into March, April, May, we're expecting to see -- get back into the black and see some positive trading start flowing through, and momentum really start to build from that kind of midyear period. I think in all reality, we'll probably see another couple of OCR rate drops by that time and should be enough to also sort of stimulate some of that resi commercial market.
Rohan Koreman-Smit
analystAnd I guess, competitive response, margins have obviously been squeezed with a bit of pricing pressure out there. I just noticed a few kind of price increase notifications in the market. Can you just, I guess, talk to how your competitors are behaving? And if there's anyone out there who's being a little bit more or slower to react on price than others?
Mark Malpass
executiveLook, it's certainly a mixed bag out there, Rohan. You're probably aware from your own channel checks. There's 1 or 2 that are sort of, shall we say, a little less structured with their pricing behavior, maybe destocking or other things going on there. But we're seeing one of our key players has announced a price increase. We have also -- on our website, you'd see that we're considering a price increase and are likely to move on that later this month. So, there are some grounds for that in the market. So, we're just working through that at the moment. But yes, it really is a mixed bag out there in terms of pricing behavior. We're obviously trying to keep that pricing structure. We've been making really good progress on our margins per tonne up until kind of around that October period when we just started seeing some fairly aggressive behavior in the market. And obviously, you've got to maintain scale, so that flows to our margin impact, which we haven't been able to avoid.
Richard Smyth
executiveAnd then just on inventories, you've taken another $12 million out. I know some of it's just lower input costs, but that's been a key factor in terms of cash management. Can you just talk to where you are in terms of inventory on hand in terms of months sales? And also kind of with the dollar down pressure on inventory cost, is the kind of cost out from working capital kind of complete?
Mark Malpass
executiveYes. I mean we probably have optimized that inventory just about as far as you can go. We've also, as you mentioned, you've seen the benefit of a little bit of price reduction. We've seen a steady reduction in, I guess, U.S. dollar price over the last 6 months. When you translate that into Kiwi, it is obviously with a lower dollar at the moment. It's kind of been relatively flat. But we're seeing an increase in spot prices across most of the finished products that we're purchasing. And so that will start flowing into price, hence, the price pressure that we were talking about earlier and the need to increase prices because you convert that with a low dollar there is pressure on that. So, I think that will influence inventory a little bit as price increases through there. We've obviously got -- from May, we can expect another $6 million inventory from Perry's coming on board. But other than that, we think we've already started buying in anticipation of improved demand. And so that's already starting to flow through our system and has started flowing in, in January, February. But not significant. I mean we're sort of balancing that very carefully. We're still keeping hold of anywhere between 3.5 and 4.5x forward demand, which is -- it obviously varies depending on some of our products that are coming from far away. But generally, we're sort of aiming at about that 4x, and we've been able to maintain that and keep a tight control over inventory.
Rohan Koreman-Smit
analystAnd then maybe kind of 2-part final question just on the acquisition. It's a bit of a different acquisition to the 3 that you called out. It's larger in scale and it's not, I guess, pushing volume through your existing network. But can you talk to, I guess, the similarities in customer sets and the cross-selling opportunities you kind of briefly talked to in your presentation? And then on the second point, you'll be probably $20 million or so, $10 million to $20 million net debt once this completes at the end of the financial year. What's the kind of banking arrangements like given, obviously, the current business is probably going to be reasonably challenging still for the next 6 months in terms of your...
Mark Malpass
executiveYes, sure. Perhaps I'll cover the first question and then hand over to Richard to cover the second part. Yes, look, it's a really good business for us, this one. It's -- if you look at the customer base, you've got about an existing 75% overlap of our customers. So obviously, that other 25% creates a great opportunity for us to be able to sell steel to those customers. And so we're looking forward to that opportunity. And as I mentioned, as a briefing the team about the acquisition this morning, we're excited about that. And there's also opportunities with ourselves where we're currently using the other competitor is Valmont, which have about call it, 33%, 35% of the market. And so we're using them a lot. So that, of course, moves across to Perry's assuming the transaction completes. So, we see opportunities there and also within, as I mentioned, Perry's existing customer base to sell more steel to. So, really nice adjacency for us. We've done quite a lot of due diligence over the last 6 months. In fact, even before the NBIO, we had spent close to 6 months researching the sector and the business and have got ourselves quite comfortable with the business. There's a few conditions that we have to work through over the next 3 months, but very reputable business. The owner is known well to us as a key player in the Waikato sector and we've been working with for a number of years. So, when we've got a nice earnout structure there with a 2-year earnout and an option to extend that to a third year. So, we'll be working closely with the vendors over that 2-year period to try and make sure they're successful with their earnout, but also a great opportunity for us to have a very experienced team of owners on board with working with us to ensure that the business is optimized. So, we feel with the work that we've done and understanding of the sector, we've even been to Europe and visited galvanizers over there just to make sure that we're across changes in the market and what we can expect to see. So, we're kind of -- we feel like we've got an experienced team on board. I personally spent a lot of my life in M&A and the team that we've got on board has got some very good processes in place to ensure that this integration goes well. The key focus for us in the first -- really the first 12 months is all about the team, the staff on board and the customer base. And we've proven with Kiwi it was only a $10 million transaction, but by protecting that customer base and extending it across our platform in terms of cross-selling is just absolutely critical in the first 12, 24 months of any transaction. And then some of the back-end stuff comes along quite quickly, which is easier part of the integration. But really, the key for us is focusing on cross-sell and the people involved and bringing and welcoming that team on board. Hopefully, that answers the first part of your question. I'll just hand over to Richard to talk about the other financing question you had.
Richard Smyth
executiveSo, our facility agreement requires us to get permission from our bank syndicate to draw down for M&A. So, we've reached out to them recently, and we're taking them through this process. They are supportive. So, they've got their own processes, as I'm sure you're aware and they are working through those. We're not seeing any significant stumbling blocks or concerns there. But there is a process that we do need to work through.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] Your next question comes from Cameron Parker from Craigs Investment Partners.
Cameron Parker
analystJust with regards to Perry Metal, the conditional terms for the transaction going ahead. Is it solely based around sort of funds? Or is there another element around customer base and so forth? Can you talk to that?
Mark Malpass
executiveCam, sure. Look, there's a few conditions there. Financing is one of them, but we've also got conditions around environmental baseline reports being established. Obviously, the plants are operating zinc acid. So, it's prudent for us to make sure that we understand the environmental footprint of the sites before acquiring the businesses. And so we're working through a process with some outside consultants, which we're sharing the cost of Perry's on to work through that process to ensure that we have a really good understanding of that and then and other things that come with that. And then another one is really around the leases. Perry Charitable Trust will continue to own 3 of these large galvanizing sites and so working through lease arrangements on those. We've agreed heads of -- terms heads across those. But we've also got a couple of sites that are third-party sites. And so just working through those new leases will be something that we'll be working through. And then there's other sort of smaller conditions that you'd expect in any transaction that we just will work through over the next 3 months. So, we're aiming for completion on towards the end of April. So, we should own the business from early May.
Cameron Parker
analystOkay. Great. And just really the last one is really the green shoots you're starting to see in your pipeline and so forth. Can you remind us how quickly the conversion is from pipeline to work put in place and perhaps just touching on the different areas of those green shoots?
Mark Malpass
executiveSure, sure. Yes, like a reinforcing project can take 6 to 12 months before we actually see steel going out the door. So, there is a bit of a gestation period there on some of the larger project work, so in the infrastructure space or in the kind of large commercial space. But really, what's encouraging or what's certainly given the Board and myself some comfort is that the manufacturing activity is starting to turn and you saw the PMI last month jump up into the expansionary mode, which is the first time in, I think, 23 months. So, we've really been in the doldrums there in the mid-40s to pop up into, I think it's [ 51.2 ] or something like that. That is a really good sign. And we've started seeing it in our numbers this month where that flows straight through our distribution businesses. So, we start seeing manufacturing, a little bit of an uptick in the light commercial space as projects start to flow through. We're seeing some early work on the Auckland Hospital that started flowing -- excuse me, Auckland Airport that started flowing through in January and that sort of started to kick along a little bit. We've got a strategic partnership there with Hawkins. We're seeing some other opportunities, things like the Dunedin Hospital that kicking on earlier. That will take a little bit more time before we start to see the volumes flow through. But there are already large commercial projects and a lot of our partner constructor companies that we work with, we're starting to see some activity. We secured a couple of projects in the reinforcing business this month that are due to start actually things like the Drury South second stage extension that we'll start seeing some reinforcing flow through that in the next month or so. So, some are well advanced, Cam, and some of the 149 fast-track projects are well advanced, but others will take 6 to 12 months. But the key I would want to point to is manufacturing, which even in this environment is about 34% of our sales is really starting to show some signs of life, which is really encouraging.
Operator
operatorThere are no further phone questions at this time. I'll now hand back for any webcast questions.
Unknown Executive
executiveWe've got a couple of online questions. First one, what is the expected rate of return on the latest acquisition?
Mark Malpass
executiveWe've pointed to a sort of backward multiple over the last 3 years on an EBITDA basis that we've called out in the report there, I think about we've noted. We've also called out the at least $1 million of synergies and EBITDA flowing through in the first year. So, the return on the project is strong. I'm not going to quote the NPV IRR numbers, but obviously, we have some very clear criteria before we even enter a gate around any M&A and getting to an NBIO, Non-Binding Indicative Offer, we have clear hurdles around return on funds employed, NPV, IRR and actually both the previous multiple as well as the forward-looking multiple, including synergies and other things. And so this particular acquisition clears all of those hurdles plus some. So, it's -- we believe it's the right time to be buying. We probably wouldn't be able to afford this acquisition in another 3, 5 years' time as the market improves, but it has demonstrated steady performance and you can see the charts that we've included around the prior period EBITDA generation even in a recessionary environment, there's been a little bit of compression to the top line, but it's very little compared to the other players in the industry that have seen quite significant reductions in revenues.
Unknown Executive
executiveSecond question, with regards to M&A, is there the possibility to focus on M&A causes a loss on operations basis?
Mark Malpass
executiveLook, it's a good question. We believe we've got that well covered. We have a team that we established about 18 months ago just to focus purely on M&A -- and that team is led by our previous Distribution General Manager, Marc Hainen. So, he also has a unique set of skills and that he can run businesses as well as acquire them. And so Marc will be working with me to integrate this business and be responsible for capturing the synergies that we've laid out and ensure that the business and the people come on board and that we get those cross-sell opportunities picked up. So, the business will report into me, but I say that M&A team are responsible for the first couple of years to really ensure that we capture synergies, and that's worked very well for us with the 3 businesses we bought to date. We're in a very fortunate situation to have an individual like Marc, who is able to both structure deals as well as execute against them. So, we feel very comfortable that we can manage both the integration of this business under Marc's stewardship and also the ongoing running of it.
Unknown Executive
executiveNext online question. What is the geographic expansion opportunities of the new acquisition?
Mark Malpass
executiveYes. So 4 locations or actually 6 locations, a couple of them are non-galv sites throughout the country. And so we plan to be able to use our distribution network to be able to be, I guess, a cross-dock opportunity for galvanizing. So, this happens already in Tauranga for Perry Metal Protection where they have customer drop-off, pick-up and they're able to deliver out of Hamilton, which is where the galv bath is placed into that tower and also the Hawke's Bay market. So, quite a -- and that's all about distribution delivery times. And one of the things that we're able to bring to the party is with our Roadex truck acquisition, Perry also have some of their own trucks and it will enable a lot more of our facilities to be utilized as drop-off, pick-up zones for galvanizing as we're able to capitalize on our existing fleet and leverage those trucks to be able to transport galvanizing products to customers. So, they have the galvanizing plants are in Auckland, Hamilton, Wellington and Christchurch. And so you can swing a very wide radius from all of those sites. And Perry have demonstrated this is a great quality company with excellent customer relationships and we'll be able to leverage that through our wider distribution network.
Unknown Executive
executiveNo more online questions. I'll hand back to the operator.
Operator
operatorThank you. That does conclude our conference for today. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.
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