Strata Critical Medical, Inc. (SRTA) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

May 18, 2023

NASDAQ US Health Care Health Care Providers and Services conference_presentation 34 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#1

Everyone. Moving along here. Our next presenters are the folks with Blade Urban Air Mobility and their CEO, Rob Wiesenthal. I know Rob has a quick video that he wants to show before we get into Q&A. So role it. [Presentation]

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#2

Very nice.

Robert Wiesenthal

executive
#3

Pretty cool, right?

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#4

Pretty cool. So you're gearing up for a busy summer or what?

Robert Wiesenthal

executive
#5

Yes, it's -- looking forward to a great Memorial Day weekend, both in our leisure routes in New York airport. South of France, we have Cannes Film Festival this week and Memorial Day weekend, we have the Monaco Grand Prix, which is probably the biggest day for helicopter flight. And so in Europe -- yes, so there's a lot going on over there next week for sure.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#6

Yes. Busy start to the spring summer period, I guess, right?

Robert Wiesenthal

executive
#7

Hoping for a good weather.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#8

Exactly. Look, I think it's always good when I have folks from Blade up here. Its just -- maybe just to start it off, like a very quick overview of the business because I think a lot of people out there just view Blade as kind of a personal chopper service to wherever they want to go, but it's more than that. So maybe just take a couple of minutes and kind of go through the some of the different business lines that you have.

Robert Wiesenthal

executive
#9

Sure. Yes, so when we started the company in 2014. IT actually was to build the entire ecosystem, and that was going to be required for Electric Vertical Aircraft where you may call eVTOL in the future. Yes, we knew that, at that point, it was a long way off. It's obviously much closer now. And that really required 3 pillars: Infrastructure with the big cities. So these are like proprietary terminals, almost like FBOs that don't sell fuel where you can aggregate passengers. You can do luggage checks and you can kind of turn helicopters, which means loading and head setting people and like getting their helicopters on or off so you can get some real volume. A technology stack that goes from cockpit to the customer. So it's everything from the pilot computing weight and bound, so they can get a new mission in 15 minutes. And working with our logistics people on an operator dashboard, so we use the right tail numbers to maximize profits and minimize dead legs on than a consumer-facing app, right? And then you couple that with our -- about 350,000 users. We've probably flew up close to 400,000 people pre-COVID across all of these Canada, U.S., Europe and India, and these routes. So that is that ecosystem. And we're -- the objective is to do this on an asset-light basis, so we could have an asset swap to EVA when it's ready. But along the way we had so much expertise in logistics that we found huge opportunities in the medical business, and we quickly became the largest air transporter of human organs in the United States -- their Blade MediMobility division. And that same helicopter that people are flying on during the day, is the helicopter use at night. So the operators enjoy a lot more amortization of their fixed cost in terms of the cost of the helicopter, the hangers, insurance, maintenance people, and so they're making more money, we can get better deals, a lot more access, and then we've lowered the cost for customers and saving lives every day with a hospital. So instead of what, say, Langone Medical Center would do in New York where they used to take ambulance across Manhattan for an hour and then go to Teterboro, and get on a G4 to go to Billy. We can actually fly from when going and end up with Philadelphia -- hospital, skipping a bunch of miles, [indiscernible] is giving a jet and that really can reduce the price from, say, $50,000, $60,000 to about $4,000. When you have a trip like that. Now we're doing much longer-haul trips because of perfusion technology where organs live outside the body much longer. So we've even done trips in jets to Alaska now. So the business -- growth has been exponential. I think last quarter, about 111% year-over-year quarter growth for the Medical business. We're now 50-50 roughly on the revenue side, medical versus passenger. So it's a nice fit.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#10

Yes. At its old capital light, right?

Robert Wiesenthal

executive
#11

All capital light.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#12

You don't own the assets.

Robert Wiesenthal

executive
#13

We do not own any aircraft or maintain them or fly them. There's enough work with getting that ecosystem right, taking care of the passengers, taking care of the hospitals, getting the customer experience right, the digital side, the marketing -- that's what we're good at.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#14

You basically run your lounges, right?

Robert Wiesenthal

executive
#15

Well its -- a little -- we do run our ladder, but It's definitely a lot more of that.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#16

No, but the true like owner-operator model would be the lounges, right?

Robert Wiesenthal

executive
#17

Well, no, we don't own those -- those you build them out. We don't know Yes. So yes, we -- those are all -- sometimes they're free because we have a lot of landings and people want us at their Hellopeter airport, and sometimes it's a minimal cost for a lease. But it's helpful to the Helloports in the airports because we're taking care of our own passengers. So a lot of the services that they would normally do, we do. But you have to understand that when it comes to Non commercial aviation, what they call GA, general aviation, where we kind of fit in the in between Part 135 category where we're aggregating people, but we're not going through airport terminals. So we have to do a lot of this stuff ourselves in terms of assembling passengers and security and baggage assessment. They're used to like corporate executives who just show up and get on a private jet or their own helicopter. It's very different when you have people flying on a by the seat basis, multiple flags when we're flying every 20 minutes, 15 minutes from New York to the airport 12 hours a day, 6 days a week. So the volume is really big.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#18

Okay. Got it. On the earnings call, I think one number really stood out to me -- and that was -- I think it was a 46% increase in first-time Blade airport customers. Did you market a lot to get them -- is it just -- it was to return to travel?

Robert Wiesenthal

executive
#19

A lot of return to travel, a lot of marketing, and we are up nearly a 100% in the first quarter, both -- it's really been driven by passenger seats, both new and repeat flyers and pricing. So it's $195 or $95 as much as you want with an airport pass-through , so we literally be Uber Black without an airport UberX within Airport Pass. But since we introduced fare classes and add-ons like cars on the other ones to give that MediMobility that seamlessness, our average price is about $245 in last week, I think we were at $281. So there's definitely a lot of range of the kind of people who are flying us. And in terms of the new passenger count, it's definitely not a lack of returning passengers, it's growth. That's just the new passengers and the growth is overshadowing the return passengers.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#20

Interesting. For Blade airport flyers, what's -- what are the demographics there, age, income?

Robert Wiesenthal

executive
#21

Well, it's -- I can tell you -- yes, I'll tell you, it's -- we're 60% business. And it's kind of a 40% leisure. We're about 30% international right now and international is really growing.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#22

In terms of people going to international flights?

Robert Wiesenthal

executive
#23

Yes, really growing fast. We have a terrific partnership with JetBlue, where if you fly coast to coast, fly Blade for free -- that started a couple of weeks ago yes. And then we also -- if you're Mosaic Plus, you have free 4 flights you're Mosaic, you have 2 free flights, you get TrueBlue , you get discounts. This is actually first is people writing things down a lot of TrueBlue. Make sure you get your lights and your discounts.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#24

I did not know.

Robert Wiesenthal

executive
#25

Yes. Well, they actually bought a flight bank. So this is not a promotion where we're...

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#26

You are not giving...

Robert Wiesenthal

executive
#27

So they really love the product and the seamlessness and it's a great way to differentiate themselves versus other airlines. And I think you're going to see more of that.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#28

Yes. I was going to say what are the -- there have to be a lot of other opportunities like that?

Robert Wiesenthal

executive
#29

Yes. And I think you'll see a lot of that in Europe, probably to start where the code sharing has been done historically, where you're bundling airline seats with the helicopter transfers. And then I think you'll comply see that more in international to New York and then hopefully other domestic carriers continue forward.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#30

Got it. Do you have a general sense of what your typical income cohort is?

Robert Wiesenthal

executive
#31

It really -- look, it really ranges because you have the who they realize it's kind of like a great experience because I'm going to the airport. I'm not only getting there quickly, but in New York, I'm seeing the Statue of Liberty, Ellis Island, the Brooklyn Bridge, and candidate, I'm saying a Barclays Center 2. So you have those kind of one-and-done because, frankly, at the price of ANUBA Black, it's not that expensive. So we can go pretty low down the spectrum -- it was $75,000, $85,000 a year, and then we go all the way up because we also will do charters and things like that. But also on the business side, I think we're starting to crack big corporate, but generally right now, it's smaller company, it's more individual businessman -- and because...

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#32

That was going to be my question because I'm I don't think Bank of America has a [indiscernible] ?

Robert Wiesenthal

executive
#33

Yes. The funny thing is the best way to do it, I found and when I was CFO of Sony, my big analogy, I'll make it quick, was we had to use Blackberry through security. And our members telling people kept saying, "I got to use an iPhone, I'm on an iPhone, people start buying their own iPhones and eventually had to tell the Head of IT. You know what? I can't deal with this anymore, let them use iPhones. We're seeing the same thing, especially around Hudson Yards, where 50,000 people live, work and recreate Manhattan and is across the street from BLADE Lounge West, where you have people basically saying, "Look, I bought my own airport pass, it's $95. You're spending $220 on a car service. This is the way I'm doing it, they like Ok, fine. And so you definitely -- I think, ground up from the people as opposed to mandating at the top is definitely it's worked much better for us. And that will just take time.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#34

Yes. Probably I have a few cards I can give you then.

Robert Wiesenthal

executive
#35

Exactly.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#36

I guess I would assume, outside of -- in your kind of pure leisure business, the income demographic is pretty high I've been -- I live on Rhode Island. I think I hear about deals you can get on Hanton's rentals these days heading into summer. I know your booking curve is probably super short, but have you given any thought to what like what the potential implications are on your business based on just what we hear from the real estate market?

Robert Wiesenthal

executive
#37

Yes. Well, I think that there's definitely a secular change in the way people go to leisure markets. So in other words, my generation, say, with the Nantucket, Hampton's , they had rented house from Memorial Day to Labor Day, and then a decade later, became, let's just take June, July or August. And now it's been chopped up because of Airbnb. So I think these houses are just being rented differently. And I think the -- landlords haven't yet gotten a memo, so to speak, that this is probably the way it's going. And frankly, that's good for us because as opposed to owners, the renters may have less income to fly back and forth every weekend, and they want to make it special, so they go out and they fly Blade with their C-Plane or a helicopter. And then also when they're going to Europe or anywhere else, they use our airport product. So that's good as well. So I don't really see any issue of this kind of change in the rental market because it's not people not going or renting their houses, they're just renting those house differently.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#38

I can't imagine traffic is going to be any better this summer than last summer?

Robert Wiesenthal

executive
#39

Yes. It's even in the city, I mean, post-pandemic the traffic between everything because of all these restaurants sheds and construction that got restarted after COVID. For airport, we're turning 2-hour drives into 5 million flights. So that -- the value prop is really there for the flyer.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#40

What is it from the West side Helipad to East Hampton?

Robert Wiesenthal

executive
#41

East Hampton time?

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#42

Yes.

Robert Wiesenthal

executive
#43

[indiscernible] a type of helicopter C-Plane can be as little as 30 minutes. And you can have we fly to Montauk as well. That could be -- we've known a lot of times, and we track traffic very carefully where doubler weekends where they had 5, 6 hour drives. Yes. So it definitely -- when you add that up and you think about how much people are spending for their weekends or the spend for their house, over the course of the summer, you literally create an entire their weekend of waking hours by flying. And that's obviously the one of the only things we can't buy is time. So it's been a very profitable product for a very, very long time, and it's close to 100% market share as you can I think we actually are now this summer on a by the seat basis, we'll be at 100% market share for that region. But the real growth we see is on the medical side and on Europe, which is really -- we took 3 companies, we put them under a comminent brand. They didn't have any marketing. They had no technology. There was no consistent customer experience. We built lounge and can, Nice, Monaco, really feel good about that. It will be -- RedBird Capital took a 5% stake in us. They own AC Milan, we'll be doing Monaco to Milan, a lot more events -- because our Monaco heliport is literally inside the streets of the track of the Monaco Grand Prix. So we do a lot with Formula One. I'm on the Board of TripAdvisor, which is a Liberty owned company. So I'm looking forward to doing a lot more events. We do Courchevel this year. Any place where there's a use case where a lot of people are going at the same place at the same time and the infrastructure was to build to surge capacity is a great way to showcase our product, and we do it with sponsorship. So we have a lot of brands, different verticals for everything from spirits to close technology and people to participate in events for us. But I think overall, like the growth is strong. Medical is very strong. And it's a great Symbiosis, as I mentioned, between both those in terms of logistics team, but also the aircraft, getting more hours on the aircraft.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#44

Last question on the airport, airport side. But with 30% of your airport customers going on to international flights, I would assume I think that's probably JFK number.

Robert Wiesenthal

executive
#45

And Newark to, yes.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#46

Right -- in Newark, do you think there's more brand awareness for the Blade product in the U.S. or in Europe?

Robert Wiesenthal

executive
#47

Well, I think -- well, there's definitely more in the U.S., but it -- we were shocked that when we went to Europe that people immediately knew about Blade. And I think that's been the power of the airport product because if you think of New York as a capital of the United States or epicenter in the United States, people are coming from all over the world into New York, and they were using the airport product to get back and forth in the airports that are aware of Blade for that. And now they're seeing Blade in Europe. And now we're moving people who are comfortable in the U.S. with Blade as opposed to -- We know 6 on the helicopter companies that they own in the name of or airline companies. So we definitely have built that business moving a lot more people, I'm expecting this summer from the U.S., but also I think the brand has resonated very well in Europe because of me a being in the port business for so long.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#48

Maybe changing gears a little bit to kind of the EVA opportunity. You clearly have the real estate with your helipads. How far away is this technology from reality?

Robert Wiesenthal

executive
#49

Well, the thesis always was for us we're going to build a great and profitable business with conventional aircraft today, both on the medical side and on the passenger side. And when EVA arrives early, your NPV is higher. EVA arrives later, we're going to be that much bigger, right? And the big reason why this is important to us is at the great unlock for exponential growth in the passenger side is more landing zones. And the only way we get more landing zones is with quiet aircraft. That's why you'll see in New York City, all the Blade terminals are on the water in the Hudson River on the East River on Wall Street on the southern tip of Manhattan, it's always on the water even in Europe because of noise, generally. If we had one landing zone south of Central Park in North of 43rd Street, that could be bigger than the entire New York business itself because you're not only going to the airport from Midtown, but you have interconnectivity between Wall Street, Midtown, Midtown East Side, at West Side, East side.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#50

So I'm not getting that helipad at Brighton Park anytime so not.

Robert Wiesenthal

executive
#51

So -- not -- they'll be listen, I think that's so -- back to your question -- we've always been very conservative. We were -- I think when we went public saying kind of '25, I think we're about '26 right now, 2026, when you're first going to start seeing them. But also understand that in the beginning, shares, you're not going to have maybe the number of seats that you want, the matter of weight that I would want. So we need a portfolio of different types of aircraft. And so you're going to see this kind of cohabitation phase of helicopters and EVA kind of living together. And I think what's really interesting to us, and we're grateful forward to a certain extent, is that the EVA manufacturers who used to want the build the entire stack, be a service like Blade, have a brand, have a technology -- I think they may say, "You know what, let's just build these aircraft -- right now". We can worry about that later. So I think that our operators will be the biggest customers by far in the industry. So that's why we have such a great relationship with all of them. And while we're not weighing around for them, obviously, with this growing medical business and our passive business, it's -- there's a lot of money behind it and the issue is really a certification issue. It's not a technology issue. These things are flying every day.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#52

Okay. Yes I've seen a lot of the videos from the OEMs. What's your anticipated time line in terms of certification? When do you think that -- is that the '26 ?...

Robert Wiesenthal

executive
#53

That's '26.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#54

Okay. So when does it become a '26 certification how long until commercial reality?

Robert Wiesenthal

executive
#55

I think you'll start seeing them in fleet potentially '26, I mean, '27 would be probably an outside time. What I mean in 'fleet is -- which is great for us because if you think about it, it's a branded type of propulsion and brand-new type of aerodynamics. There are going to be some people who say, you know what, am I going to get on this thing, right?

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#56

[indiscernible] the helicopter let someone else trying.

Robert Wiesenthal

executive
#57

But if there's anybody who's going to get on one, right, it's going to be someone that's been on a helicopter first, and we've got hundreds of thousands of those people. So as opposed to an OEM that doesn't have a brand that has never flown people before. We're probably in a better situation. So it's going to be an introduction. In the beginning, there'll be kind of early adopters who are thrilled to fly, pay any price, and then you'll see it become more mainstream over time. But it's definitely -- look, it's huge upside option value in the company, but it's nothing that we rely on to our numbers work right now.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#58

Of course. Yes. And when I think about the -- just the future of EVA, right, figure '26 certification, '27 commercially viable, probably prove it out at your helipads first? And then is that when we start to see -- okay. Maybe we can move into more dense markets with this.

Robert Wiesenthal

executive
#59

Exactly -- so it's -- when people can see that it is safe, see that it's quiet, And it's zero emissions. That's when the local legislators and the public get behind it and in order to be Citi 2.0, you have to have an urban mobility strategy. So if you talk to people that routine of transportation, if you talk to any kind of city planner they'll just tell you like, look, you look even sees Manhattan as an example. It's my home town, fine. A couple of hundred years ago, we had just houses there than we had to build vertically, right, to put people in offices and in homes and apartments. And the same thing is going happen in transportation . We're starting on the ground where infrastructure has been there for ages and really hasn't been updated. We have some subways underneath. I took the second half, your subway years to get done, still not done yet. And we are that middle layer between the jets in the sky and the cars on the ground, that middle layer will be a transportation corridor with electric vertical aircraft. I don't think in especially in the early years, this is not going to eliminate congestion. It's going to put companies on the map, make it easier to do business. Clearly, like in India, with Blade now, you can visit 4 companies in a day or 2, Mumbai, Shirdi, Pune -- we used to before Blade in India, like you can be in India for 5 days to visit all these cities because of the traffic and how difficult to skip by air. So I think cities realize that if they want to improve productivity and make it an easy place to do business, you need that. But this is not like -- we never envisioned the Jetsons future. This is not like going or hitting a button. And for $4, you get your own aircraft. This is going to be a shared aircraft, just like we do right now that our port on a consistent basis, various routes, portable pricing, relatively competitive with grams. But it's going to be more additive and accretive as opposed to everyone. It's not a flying card.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#60

Right. Do you envision sourcing your operators and pilots in EVA, the same way you source helicopters?

Robert Wiesenthal

executive
#61

Yes. If you take a look at the certification path is really it's kind of -- it's -- most of these aircraft are Part Fixed-wing, part rotorcraft in terms of technology, right? They can take off and land vertically like a helicopter, but they can go forward like a plane, a lot of them do have -- so I think what we can do is offer our operators ours in terms of how many hours that we could fly so they can finance against basically what we can do for them. So which happens right now with Textron from Bell and Airbus, we'll get calls ever was saying, okay, so one say I wants to buy this helicopter, how many hours do you think you can do it on the Blade program because like they want to how much they can on them. And so we're going to become part of the financing solution, not as owners or debt holders. But as people who that can show a history of being on our platform and how many hours that they've done. And most of we have about 29 key operators now. There are a lot of operators who solely work with Blade at this point. Nobody else because it just -- they get to reduce their costs. They have lower marketing costs. They don't have to worry about customer service. It's a credit card dispute. We deal with it, it's weather recovery, we deal with it. so they could focus on what they do best, which is flying and maintaining aircraft.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#62

Got it. Interesting. Last topic with 8 or so minutes, 8 or 10 minutes left here, MediMobility. Obviously, there's been a great story for you -- why do you think you've been so successful in gaining share?

Robert Wiesenthal

executive
#63

This really -- it's been a mom-and-pop business when we go into hospitals, partially in the early days, people would have a posted note with the name of an ambulance company and a jet company and we really came in, in certain areas, not in all areas, but professionalized it, when I say all are not all hospitals is really good programs. And we provided this end-to-end solutions. So we have lights and sirens SUVs. They can move Organ that you saw in that video -- run by third parties also. We have our helicopters now jets also, they are doing longer distance because of perfusion. And we manage chain of custody. We have a technology platform for them, and we are there and we're reliant. And I think when you do the hospital contracts, you can imagine, is that kind of that never underestimate the power of incumbency. It's kind of like the -- there's some contracts like in schools or hospitals or things that have been on for a long time for everything for I don't know, from like food to cleaning and eventually, I don't want to say people get lazy, but they get -- take it for granted. And so we go to the procurement parts of these companies, talk about how much money we can save them and how we can transplant surgeons and heads of transplant centers say like how we can really improve outcomes. And when we started, we became #1 in New York, and we saw the guys at Trinity, and we saw what we could build together and our ability to source the aircraft and leverage our helicopters. This business has grown 5x from when we brought up of $20 million in revenues to over $100 million run rate based on Q1 and you're talking about 15 points or more of margin, high-teens margin. So just...

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#64

Better margin than the airport business, right?

Robert Wiesenthal

executive
#65

Yes. yes, better than the airport business, not as good as leisure, but it definitely -- this is -- it's only getting bigger. The definition of an organ that is suitable for transplant and a patient who is suitable for being a recipient, that aperture has improved in addition to organs living longer out of the body because of perfusion devices that we actually put on the planes. So we can fly an organ literally that we've done it to Alaska in the past couple of months.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#66

[indiscernible] have for that type of?

Robert Wiesenthal

executive
#67

Well, generally, they're shorter distances -- they'll be kind of like [indiscernible] 800s things like that. And then we have to go out of our core network for something longer. We obviously can do that. But this is also where like our people on the ground, we're still use hailing people in the ground game and the helicopters getting lot of value to make sure they're safe on a tarmac like we need people to actually put these reperfusion devices onboard the aircraft may know what type of device how to load an aircraft safely and things like that. So it really fits in well. And I think investors are finally saying like, there is no other way to play this part of medical. We don't get paid by the insurance companies. It's not like EMS at all. The hospitals pay us net 30 or 60, the terms depend. But it's we're not like we're collecting from -- so all the kind of real shrapnel that you've seen in this industry really difficult for them. We don't have in the already built business. It is just -- it's blue skies for us had to admit -- now we take the job really seriously, and we kind of earn stripes every day. Right now, about mid-20s market share, and I can absolutely see that double in a short while.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#68

I was going to ask, do you see any -- with your success? Have there been any sort of new entrants lately?

Robert Wiesenthal

executive
#69

No, I think we do a good job getting contracts from hospitals. We've seen some acquisitions. There could be some of them on the horizon, but you have to really balance your ability to get contracts on your own versus buying a company that has existing contracts. And most of them are long term. But it's also interesting that we've now been -- have a lot of analysts and funds, investors who are really focusing on this part of the business like exciting for us.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#70

Great. Lastly, on this, are there any regulatory issues in the medical side of things that investors should be aware of?

Robert Wiesenthal

executive
#71

No. I mean, it's really -- I mean, I would say that all the wins are formalized like that, anything that can be done to improve outcomes and lower the cost to hospitals and patients the support is really there. So it's just been great. And then when you think about the first use cases for EVA -- once we get out of line of sight regulations for drones, we're doing a lot more movements of organs without doctors. You normally fly a doctor with an organ. So it's a great use case for drones and it will be a great use case for EVA as well. So that is definitely part of our EVA road map.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#72

Okay. Great. With a minute or 2 left, any questions from the audience? Great. Any kind of last thoughts you would like to leave in investors' minds?

Robert Wiesenthal

executive
#73

Yes. I mean I think -- look, I think that we're coming off a heavy investor -- investment period, but we've made a lot of acquisitions. And I think that -- if you take a look at our path to profitability, our LTM EBITDA was about negative 20. If you take the acquisition we just did in Europe, we're just kind of single-digit millions. You get to 20, if you even take medical is growing 100% organically and they're doing -- we do 15% to 20% margins, you slow that down you'll get another $10 million of EBITDA. So now we're in single-digit EBITDA levels now on the negative side. And then that's before any increase in airport profitability, which I'm really counting on as we reduce marketing costs and enjoy the kind of growth we're having and showing the pricing power. So I feel I think investors really need to focus on that, see that profitability within eyesight for sure. And then also, is clearly that people meet them every day, I had no idea we had a medical business. it's literally half of our revenues and just...

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#74

That's why I started this off us a little about.

Robert Wiesenthal

executive
#75

No. Really, it is terrific. And we appreciate your support and then also letting us explain the 2 big pillars of the company.

Unknown Analyst

analyst
#76

Perfect. Great. Thank you very much.

Robert Wiesenthal

executive
#77

Thank you. Appreciate it.

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