Superloop Limited (SLC) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
August 19, 2026
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Operator
operatorThank you for standing by, and welcome to the Superloop Limited FY '26 Results Call. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to hand the conference over to Mr. Paul Tyler, Chief Executive Officer. Please go ahead.
Paul Tyler
executiveAnd welcome to Superloop's FY '26 Results Briefing. I'm Paul Tyler, I'm the CEO of Superloop, and I'm joined here by Dean Tognella, our CFO. Today marks a significant milestone for us, the closeout of our 3-year Double Down strategy. The results we're about to walk you through book in 3 years of what we think is strong execution. They demonstrate significant growth in revenue, profit and cash generation, and each of the targets we set ourselves in June '23 have been met and in most cases, beaten materially. If we start on Slide 3, there's quite a bit to get through this morning. We'll start with our FY '26 performance highlights and move to our Group priorities before Dean will take you through some of our financial performance in a bit more detail. From there, I will cover our outlook and what it means as we move into our next 3-year plan, SuperCharge29, which we launched at our recent Investor Day. There'll be time for Q&A at the end. So if we start on Slide 5, let me go over the 5 themes that best capture FY '26. Three years ago, we launched our Double Down strategy with the goal to double our revenue and drive sustainable profits. I'm pleased to say it has delivered what it was designed to do, and Superloop is now an established, scaled, profitable and cash-generative business. In FY '26, our growth was broad-based. Consumer gained share through stronger brand awareness, differentiated products and record new connections. Wholesale benefited from continued growth of Challenger brands using our aggregation and white label platforms, while business exited the year with improving momentum and a strong list of key new customers. At the same time, we built Smart Communities into a larger growth platform. The Lynham and Frontier acquisitions, new developer wins and the launch of Neoloop have expanded both the current footprint and the contracted pipeline, increasing visibility over future high-margin recurring earnings. Strong gross profit, coupled with disciplined working capital management drove high cash conversion and a significant increase in free cash flow. And lastly, operating leverage was clearly evident with growth translating into higher margins and improved profitability. If we move to Slide 6. The numbers on this slide reflect the key drivers I just covered. We added some 205,000 net new customers during the year to finish at a total of 935,000 customers across the Group, with growth coming from all 3 segments. These customer numbers drove reported revenue up 21.6% against the PCP. Turning to our earnings; revenue growth flowed through to the bottom line in 2 ways. Firstly, increased contributions from higher-margin wholesale and Smart Communities revenue helped lift Group gross margin by 64 basis points. And second, our operating model supported significantly more volume without a proportionate increase in cost. The result was an underlying EBITDA of $123 million, which is up 33% against the PCP. Earnings grew at around 1.5x the rate of revenue growth. This reflects the operating leverage we've built into the business. The quality of those earnings is equally evident in the cash result. Gross operating cash flow of $123 million represented 101% conversion of underlying EBITDA and free cash flow grew by 50%. That gives us real capacity to invest in organic growth, pursue disciplined M&A and have financial flexibility for future capital management. And it flowed all the way through to the bottom line with an NPAT of $17.5 million, a material improvement on FY '25. We move to Slide 7. When we launched the Double Down strategy 3 years ago, we set 4 clear targets: a revenue run rate at the end of FY '26 above $700 million, an underlying EBITDA margin in the mid- to high teens, a positive NPATA and a positive NPAT. We're very pleased to achieve all of these targets. For FY '26 specifically, the underlying EBITDA outcome of $123 million finished above our upgraded guidance range. CapEx of $37.9 million was around $900,000 above the range provided, reflecting the slightly higher CapEx in June on the Lynham fiber builds. Becoming a profitable cash-generating business is no small achievement given where this business was only a few years ago, and it gives us real confidence as we move forward into the next chapter. Move to Slide 8. All 3 segments grew revenue this year, but the drivers were a bit different in each case. And that diversification is important. Starting with consumer, NBN introduced its [ speed to sell ] in September '25, and a number of competitors responded with new offers and increasing pricing aggression. That created a more competitive market, but it also created opportunity, and we were well-positioned to capture it. We responded quickly and used the moment to accelerate our market share gains. In wholesale, growth came from the continued expansion of the Challenger brand that we enable. As they grow, we grow with them. And in business, after several years of industry-wide price erosion, pricing has now stabilized somewhat and our momentum has returned, particularly in the second half. The clearest measure of that combined performance is market share, where our Group NBN share has increased to around 8.5%. We move forward to Slide 9. The operating leverage in our business is visible in this slide. Our results have benefited from an improving mix as higher-margin wholesale and Smart Communities revenue became a larger part of the Group. We have a cost base that does not grow in line with volume increases, and we are now realizing returns from the investments we have made in our network, our integrated digital stack and our single operating model. More recently, AI has enabled further savings and improved the customer experience, and that is now setting Superloop apart in a crowded market. The 3-year NPAT trend on the right here shows how far the business has come. We have moved from a loss-making business to marginally profitable in '25 to a positive $17.5 million NPAT in '26. And that progression matters. These results confirm that our growth is now consistently converting into profit, and we expect that dynamic to continue. On Slide 10, underpinning our momentum is our sustained customer growth and FY '26 was our strongest year yet, 205,000 net new customers, taking the Group to 935,000 customers in total. Every segment contributed and the growth was overwhelmingly organic. Consumer growth was driven by stronger brand awareness and the strength of our high-speed proposition, lifting our consumer NBN market share to 5.2%. Business customer growth came from small business connectivity and rising activations across Smart Communities. And wholesale had an exceptional second half, enabled by strong marketing and offers from our key partners. And one point worth clarifying is Smart Communities customers whose retail service provider is a Superloop company are reported in the Consumer segment. In June, we added approximately 13,000 customers into the Consumer segment from the Lynham acquisition. Moving to Consumer on Slide 11. As you can see from the graphs on the right-hand side of the page, over the last 3 years, our Consumer segment has been winning in the market. And the last year was no different with Consumer revenue up 27%, driven largely by volume growth. We added a record 116,000 net new customers, the first time we have ever added more than 100,000 customers in a single year. Consumer GP grew 26% year-on-year and pleasingly, despite the increased competition, held comfortably above our long-term gross margin target. Superloop remains a leader in the high-speed plans, which improved both the quality of our customer base and the revenue per customer. If we move to Slide 12 and Business; our business momentum continued to build through FY '26. Pleasingly, after working hard to build our brand, our products and our channels in the business market, revenue was up 8.2%. The second half was actually up 12% on the PCP, showing that momentum is accelerating. We're seeing good growth in traditional business products and Smart Communities is now adding strongly to the Business segment. Business GP grew to nearly $49 million at an improving margin quality. The Business segment had a number of significant wins in the year, including National Storage and Adrad. These 2 wins will see Superloop provide network and security solutions to more than 300 sites across Australia and are great examples of our growing credibility in this market. Next, the Wholesale segment on Slide 13; the Wholesale segment continues to scale profitably as we enable the Challenger brands. Revenue increased 19% with growth across many of our existing wholesale partners. Wholesale GP increased to $67 million, with gross margin increasing to 69.2%. Wholesale customer growth was heavily weighted to the second half, which saw an increase of some 59,000 customers. This result was supported by strong marketing from key wholesale partners and underscores our position as the Enabler of Choice for Challenger telcos. Slide 14, this slide shows that our Smart Communities progress hasn't happened by accident. It's the result of a series of deliberate steps taken over many years. It began in purpose-built student accommodation, where we improved the operating model and grew to become the #1 provider in that market. VostroNet then took us into residential fiber to the premises, while Uecomm strengthened the underlying network, adding more than 2,000 kilometers of metro fiber. Frontier Networks extended us into retirement and lifestyle communities, diversifying the portfolio further. And this year, Lynham gave us a significant step-up in both our existing base and our contracted pipeline. In June, we launched Neoloop, our open access wholesale FTT platform, which brings our FTT assets together under a single brand for retail service providers. On Slide 15, that deliberate expansion has created a scaled Smart Communities footprint with attractive operating metrics and a substantial contracted pipeline for further growth. As previously mentioned, we now have 190,000 contracted lots. Of these, 90,000 are built today and 65,000 are active. FTTP lots within Neoloop are expected to generate an ARPU of around $65, supporting GMs of 70% to 75%. Our FY '26 ambition is to grow contracted lots to over 0.25 million. And we are targeting an IRR on capital deployed of more than 25%. The economics of Smart Communities are compelling, provides an essential Internet service through fiber assets with a practical economic life of more than 25 years, generates recurring annuity style cash flows and incorporates CPI-linked pricing mechanisms. Smart Communities is a difficult business to get established here as shown by our multiyear journey, and hence, we see it as having a deep moat. Let me touch on some of the key developments that shape the Smart Communities portfolio in FY '26 in Slide 16. We completed the Lynham acquisition on May 29, for a cash consideration of $165 million, which added 56,000 contracted lots to our Smart Communities footprint. We expect around $11 million of EBITDA contribution in FY '27 on a pre-synergy basis. And by the end of FY '27, we expect to achieve run rate synergies of a further $2 million. Alongside that acquisition, we secured important new development developer wins, including GemLife and Icon Group, strengthening our position within residential and lifestyle communities. We also continue to lead in the Tertiary Accommodation Wi-Fi market with large contract wins, including Centurion and Erben, demonstrating our leading position in that market. I'll now move on to Group priorities. And on Slide 18, I'll start with a high-level overview of how we deliver our strategy before touching on our operating model, our brand and our marketing and how we are transforming the customer experience. Let's start on Slide 19. Having successfully completed Double Down, we now move into SuperCharge29, our strategy for the next 3 years. Our delivery framework is built around a reinforcing cycle; deliver market-leading growth, convert that growth into cash, reinvest that cash to improve earnings and ultimately increase shareholder value. The priorities shown here map directly to that framework. It allows us to invest for growth, including into Smart Communities, shifting our earnings mix towards higher-margin annuity-style infrastructure revenues. The FY '26 results demonstrate that we can deliver against this framework. If we move to Slide 20, we are and have been deploying AI at scale across a number of our customer journeys. This is helping our teams manage growth while improving the customer experience. Our customer service agents now manage some 63% of all customer interactions. During FY '26, Teddy & Mo avoided approximately 400,000 calls, while Refreshify & Exray supported more than 500,000 fault resolution interactions with the majority resolved without any human assistance. Processify is improving activation and operations. 75% of orders are activated on the same day and fewer than 10% of digital orders require any manual steps. These internally developed tools also support our teams across onboarding, activation, service assurance and fault finding. On Slide 21, you can see how our AI intelligence layer sits between our foundation layer and the products and services we deliver across consumer, business and wholesale. Our architecture is not tied to a single AI model or provider, giving us the flexibility to use the best available technology while keeping interactions governed, structured and controlled. The benefit is that we can develop capabilities once and deploy them across the Group, supporting scale, speed to market and profitable growth. On Slide 22, you can see that our network remains a critical part of our foundation and part of the reason we have a structural cost advantage. We now own more than 2,500 kilometers of strategically located CBD and metro fiber in Australia as well as some 100,000 route kilometers of fiber across the globe. Together, this infrastructure gives us the scale and reach to support growth. And the more traffic we carry on our own network, the better our returns. Turning to Slide 23 and brand; our investment in the Superloop brand is building awareness and supporting continued market share growth. Brand awareness increased to 34% in FY '26. That increased awareness is driving traffic with combined website and app traffic up from 58%. And pleasingly, that growth in digital traffic is translating into customer orders and market share. And on Slide 24, we say acquiring new customers is important, but retaining them is just as critical. And that's why we've continued to invest in the experience we deliver through our network, our products and our digital tools. Superloop has now been awarded the fastest fixed network 3 times in a row while features such as Refreshify, Teddy and Speed Boost provide customers with a more intuitive and responsive experience. Our network products and service experience is strengthening advocacy, loyalty, word of mouth and referrals. And this is reflected in product review ratings across our brands, which are amongst the strongest in the industry. And with that, I'll now hand over to Dean to take you through some of the financial performance for the year in a little more detail.
Dean Tognella
executiveThanks, Paul. Moving to Slide 26; as mentioned earlier, FY '26 was the last year of our Double Down strategy. Our results show another year of strong growth in which we demonstrated the quality of our earnings and the cash flow generation that comes from the scale that we have achieved. Reported revenue increased 21.6% to $664 million. As Paul has covered, all 3 segments have delivered impressive revenue growth. I want to call out the accelerating momentum we are now seeing in business as evident in the second half revenue growth. Reported gross profit increased $45.1 million with the Group gross margin up 64 basis points. Operating expenses increased $18.6 million, including a $7.4 million increase in marketing investments. This investment in marketing really has delivered as evident in the consumer net adds of 116,000 and a step-up in our brand awareness. Despite that additional investment, operating expense growth was below revenue growth. As a result, underlying EBITDA increased 33% to $122.7 million, above the top end of our upgraded range. That EBITDA growth flows through to the bottom line. NPATA increased 34.2% to $37.9 million. NPAT rose to $17.5 million and reported EPS increased to $0.034. The result was also backed by excellent cash generation with free cash flow increasing 50% to $84.4 million. Moving to Slide 27; looking at our gross profit growth. Consumer added $26.2 million with a gross margin percentage of 27.2%. The Consumer segment added a record 116,000 net new customers while also showing financial discipline around cost to acquire. Business added $6.4 million of gross profit with gross margin up 2.6 percentage points to 43.1%, helped by a better revenue mix with increased contributions from Smart Communities and secure connectivity. Wholesale had a strong result, adding $12.6 million of gross profit. Put together, Group gross margin moved up 64 basis points to 35.3%. The margin quality improved even as we drove record Group customer growth of over $200,000. Moving to Slide 28. Looking at costs, operating expenses grew at a slower rate than revenue. As a result, our OpEx to revenue ratio improved from 14.4% to 13.5%. While we expect to achieve further efficiencies, we expect this graph on the right to stabilize. As mentioned earlier, the $7.4 million in marketing reflects our ambition to increase brand awareness and has enabled record net new customer growth within the Consumer segment. In FY '26, our employees expenses increased $3.4 million, resulting from salary increases and added capability in areas such as AI, security and compliance. The modest increase in employee costs over the last 2 financial years has been made possible by the AI initiatives that Paul covered earlier. There was a $7.9 million increase in other operating expenses, which included technology investment, increased insurance costs and additional variable costs such as bank fees and doubtful debts. In summary, our operating model is enabling the leverage we are targeting. Moving to Slide 29; CapEx for the year was $37.9 million, excluding IRU. Looking at the graph on the right, CapEx as a percentage of revenue increased slightly from 5.2% to 5.7%, including an investment of $7.6 million in Smart Communities, Fiber-to-the-Premise builds. Even with that increased growth investments, the business remains relatively capital-light for our telecommunications business. In the year, we invested $9.5 million in digital and AI with examples including Teddy & Mo. These digital and AI investments improve the experience for customers and partners, automate more activity across the business and support further operating leverage as we scale. A further $15.8 million was invested in shared network upgrades and capacity. Our network quality, reliability and speed are very important to our success. Lastly, we spent $10.8 million on customer fiber builds and equipment. Moving to Slide 30; cash generation was a standout feature of this year's result. Gross operating cash flow increased 40%, representing 101% conversion of underlying EBITDA. Free cash flow grew 50% to $84.4 million, giving us greater capacity for future growth. We also completed our refinancing in October 2025, establishing a new $300 million 4-year bilateral facility. This strengthens our funding position and provides us with further capability to fund accretive M&A. We ended the year with net debt of $128 million, a net leverage ratio of 1.3x and interest cover of 15.5x, well inside our covenant thresholds. Moving to Slide 31; bringing the last 2 slides together, our stronger earnings and cash generation provides the capacity to fund growth while retaining financial flexibility. Our capital management approach is to grow cash flow from the core business, invest in high-return organic growth and consider accretive M&A where it meets our financial return thresholds. As cash generation continues to increase, we will consider capital management options such as buyback or dividend. We will maintain balance sheet strength as we execute our SuperCharge29 strategy with a target net leverage ratio below 2.5x. We finished FY '26 at 1.3x, providing meaningful headroom. I'll now hand back to Paul.
Paul Tyler
executiveThanks, Dean. So on Slide 34, at our Investor Day in June, we launched SuperCharge29, and we set out the growth ambitions we are targeting through to FY '29. Those ambitions are for Group revenue of more than $1 billion, Group underlying EBITDA of over $200 million and a reported 3-year EPS CAGR of more than 30%. Our FY '26 results provide a strong starting point for that next phase. We enter SuperCharge29 with momentum across each of our segments, a proven operating model and strong earnings growth and cash generation. Delivery will be driven by the 5 strategy pillars shown here: leading consumer broadband growth, establishing a new standard for customer experience in the market, AI-enabled operating leverage, scaling Smart Communities and ensuring that all growth is profitable. Whilst these ambitions are stretching, our FY '26 performance demonstrates our ability to execute. We enter SuperCharge29 with confidence in the opportunity ahead. With that, I'll thank you for your time and continued support, and we'll now open the floor for any questions.
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Siraj Ahmed from Citi.
Siraj Ahmed
analystJust had 3 questions. I guess, first one, just in terms of -- I know it's only 5 weeks right into FY '27. You had -- you're coming off a very strong FY '26. Just keen to understand how subs growth is tracking so far, especially in terms of churn from the strong growth you had in '26. Do you want to ask the second and third right now or just pause?
Paul Tyler
executiveLook, let me answer that one quickly. Look, it's very early in the year to be giving a trading update. Obviously, we only have 1 month completed. But trading conditions continue well. So we had a great momentum in the second half, and that momentum has continued into the first half. Of course, July is always a little bit of a messy month with all the price changes and stuff that comes through. So it's way too early to be calling a trend at this stage. But trading continues strongly.
Siraj Ahmed
analystGot it. Okay. And so it's churn from the '26 earlier initial 6 months, et cetera, that's still stable, right?
Paul Tyler
executiveYou can't really draw much of a trend in July. There's a lot of moving parts in July, but it's tracking to expectation.
Siraj Ahmed
analystSure. Second one, just a 2-part question on consumer. It does look like consumer ARPU and gross margin was a bit softer in the second half, even if I adjust for Lightning being included. So can you just talk through the drivers for this and how we should think about FY '27? Because I think there's a credit card surcharge coming or removal coming through as well. So just the ARPU and gross margin in the second half.
Paul Tyler
executiveI'll let Dean talk about the credit card surcharge. Obviously, it's going to impact everyone. But the slight softening of GM quality in '26 is a champagne problem. The reality is our growth was really strong, particularly in the second half, and that meant a higher proportion of our new customers or our total customers were operating within the promo period. So the impact of that is temporarily dilutive on gross margin. But it's a result of really strong growth. But do you want to talk about the outlook with the credit cards?
Dean Tognella
executiveYes. The whole industry faces that challenge. We had previously charged a fee for credit cards and pass that on to our customers. But from October onwards, we cannot do that. That has a reasonably small impact in terms of the numbers for the next year, but we are -- the whole industry has to follow.
Siraj Ahmed
analystSure, Dean. So just clarifying, do you reckon consumer gross margins remain stable next year because you have this higher proportion of discounting coming off in the surcharge as a headwind. Should we just assume flattish gross margins?
Dean Tognella
executiveYes. Yes. That's sort of what will happen. So you've seen a slight reduction in consumer margin in this half, primarily driven by a greater percentage of our customers being on promos. As they come off promo in the first half, that will give us an advantage in terms of GM expansion on consumer for those.
Siraj Ahmed
analystGot it. And last one, you sort of mentioned this, but just on EBITDA margins, you're already at 19% in the second half. I think you mentioned that the leverage next year will be more flattish, but anything -- any reason why FY '27 should be below the 19% that you delivered the second half?
Dean Tognella
executiveNo, the ambition that we set in SuperCharge29 was to achieve 20%. I think we've demonstrated consistently we've been able to grow our EBITDA margin and the intent would be to do the same in FY '27.
Paul Tyler
executiveAnd I guess, much higher top line, of course.
Operator
operatorYour next question comes from Nick Harris from Morgans.
Nick Harris
analystCongratulations on hitting all of those 3-year double-down targets. I just wanted to focus a bit on the Business segment because there's obviously some great improvements in that second half, both the revenue trajectory and the gross margin lifting half-on-half, I think revenue accelerating. But it's hard to unpack it business versus Smart Communities. So can you just help us understand, is that a mix thing, i.e., there's more Smart Communities, which is high margin, high growth or are you actually seeing the business-to-business part improve there? And if yes, can you just give us a little bit of commentary on what's happening there in the outlook?
Paul Tyler
executiveYes. Look, it's both those things, Nick. And at some point in the future, as we've discussed before, we will separate out Smart Communities, but we're not quite there. Yet we've tried to give you as many data points as we can to allow you to model it. But both those things are happening. So Smart Communities, yes, there's a higher number of active sites that are coming through and contributing to the result. But the underlying business sort of classic, secure connectivity is doing exactly what we said it would do. Remember, we've been saying for a while, we thought FY '26 would be the year that we saw the tail end of that price erosion event that was washing through the industry for the last few years, and that's what we're seeing. So to get to that double-digit year-on-year growth in the second half was really encouraging. That's where we hope to as an internal target we set, and we got there. So it's a combination of those 2 things. The non-Smart Communities portion is a combination of obviously, site connectivity and our security portfolio, the security portfolio is also doing quite well in that space. So yes, we think the green shoots we've been talking about for the last, I guess, 12 or 18 months have now turned into more of a mainstream business trend.
Nick Harris
analystThat's great. And maybe just one more. Sorry to ask an accounting question. But I don't know, Dean loves them. So just keen to understand the sort of the D&A profile going forward. Obviously, you acquired Lightning Broadband and you had a little bit -- and there's the [ Exray ] or the IRU last year. So just sort of high level, is it reasonable to take the second half '26 D&A and sort of run with that going forward, which is something like $40 million in the half or should we kind of think that's run rating like above $50 million or something? I'm just hoping maybe you can give us some direction.
Dean Tognella
executiveYes. So the D&A moving forward into FY '27 has another number of factors we'll see an increase. The first one is the full year of the Frontier acquisition and then the second one being the Lynham acquisition as well. So it's a little bit more than just taking the second half and multiplying that by 2. We'll give you some further assistance around guidance in November at D&A and some further clarity around taxation expense as well. But it's more than just second half multiplied by 2, primarily as a result of the 2 acquisitions and slightly higher spend in FY '26 and the full year impact that in terms of D&A in FY '27.
Nick Harris
analystAnd then last one for me, and I'll jump off the Q&A. Just the billings in advance, that jumped quite a lot this year, about 30%. You've got sort of $57 million, I think, flushing through there. Can you just talk about what's driving that and give us maybe some examples so we can understand what's driving that?
Dean Tognella
executiveYes, that just reflects the continued growth of the business. So we bill at different points during the month. So at any point in the month, we roughly have half of the month's billings in advance. So that number will continue to grow as the business continues to grow.
Nick Harris
analystAnd sorry, is that across the Business segment or all the segments as in consumer?
Dean Tognella
executiveIt's predominantly across the Consumer segment. So it's predominantly driven by the growth in our consumer base. And simply as we bill on various -- we don't bill at a certain date each month. We bill at different dates. So typically, about half of our June billings will be what is [indiscernible] billed in advance.
Operator
operatorYour next question comes from the line of Annie Zhu from Barrenjoey.
Annie Zhu
analystMy first question is on the Consumer division. So if we strip out the contribution in net adds from [indiscernible], the last couple of half year periods look pretty consistent in terms of net adds of around 50,000 per half and a little better in the second half, that 54,000. I know it's early in the year, but is there any reason why FY '27 would be different to what's happened in recent periods?
Paul Tyler
executiveAnnie, I can only really repeat what I said before. It's very early to be calling a trend at this stage. We'll try and be consistent with our previous practice of giving guidance more in the November time line. To give you some color, as I said, our trading conditions have continued pretty much consistent with how we saw the second half of FY '26 at this stage, but it's way too early to be calling a full year trend, sorry.
Annie Zhu
analystOkay. And on the Wholesale division, it looks like in the second half, there was a decent step-up in terms of net adds from non-Origin customers. Can you talk a bit about what's driving that Neoloop resonating with your customers quite well?
Dean Tognella
executiveYes. It's Neoloop, but we also have a number of other wholesalers that have a similar sort of product offering to what Origin takes. And they've had some good momentum in the second half as well, which is pleasing to see. So we hopefully -- hope that will continue into this year as well. So we have a number of telco products we provide to wholesalers, and we're still seeing good growth come from those customers.
Annie Zhu
analystOkay. And just last one from me on the Wholesale division as well. Can you give an update on the migration of the subscribers from AGL's network? And is the estimated impact still in line with what you called out earlier this year and that was $4 million gross margin impact? And are there any factors that could cause a better or worse impact from that expectation?
Paul Tyler
executiveSo firstly, we don't have and never have had AGL customers in our subscriber numbers. We had a very different supply arrangement with AGL, which was just selling them backhaul capacity. So the new provider of AGL or the new acquirer of AGL's base have acquired a very different business to the one that we have lost. And yes, you're right that the size of that business we had with AGL was around about that $4 million in gross margin. It's still in our books today. We expect it obviously to come to an end in the not-too-distant future. But at this stage, we're still providing it.
Operator
operatorYour next question comes from James Wilson from Macquarie.
James Wilson
analystJust a couple from me. Are you able to give us an update over the second half, the amount of subscribers that were added in consumer from your Exetel plan versus the remainder of your plan, if possible?
Paul Tyler
executiveWe don't split it out. I think what we can give you some color. Look, we're very happy with the way Exetel One has been panning out. We think it's a great product, and it's definitely resonating in the market. I haven't -- I don't think we've given you a hard number on that. Do we have anything, Dean? We just don't -- we don't.
Dean Tognella
executiveWe don't break out the Exetel brand. But as Paul said, we're really pleased with how it's going. It's sort of -- it was designed to be a different type of plan in the market. And the expectation is that it would have a significantly longer customer lifetime value, which we're seeing as well. So we're pleased with both the volumes and the churn rate we're seeing on that product as well.
James Wilson
analystGreat guys. And could you also just give us a reminder of how those plans look on a gross profit dollars per customer compared to the rest of your book as well as possible?
Paul Tyler
executiveYes. So obviously, Exetel is a lower gross margin percentage than our Superloop product. You can see the retail price of Exetel is only one price that's published on the website. But you can assume it's below our 25% consumer sort of long-term expectation and Superloop obviously a little bit above. And the blended number comes out into the result we've shown here. But on absolute dollars, which was your question, the design for the Exetel product was to maintain a similar sort of customer lifetime value as the Exetel -- as the Superloop product, simply because we expect it to have a lower churn rate based on the product features that are inherent in the design.
James Wilson
analystOkay. So Dean, when you've spoken to sort of flat gross margins in the Consumer business into next year, is that in the expectation that sort of the current run rate of Exetel within the data that you have access to continues?
Paul Tyler
executiveYes, yes. So that's our plan. The primary brand is Superloop. That's where the vast majority of our spend goes in terms of brand and promotion. Exetel operates on quite a small budget, and we expect the same level of sort of ad performance from Exetel One in the next 12 months.
James Wilson
analystGreat. And just one final one for me. Just on the OpEx line in your consumer business and across the business as a whole, you've called out that I think 63% of your customer conversations now involve AI. Can you talk to us maybe about the quantum of cost savings you could expect to realize over the coming years from maybe moving away from sort of a call center model and focusing more on AI?
Paul Tyler
executiveYes, we've tried to give you a sense of that in the number of calls that have been avoided over the last year -- you can [ form our view ] of what's the cost of a call. And OpEx as a percentage of sales trend that we've been tracking over the last couple of years. I think we've gone down from something like 20% a couple of years ago to ending around mid- to mid-13s at this stage now. I think that can go a bit further, but it is certainly flattening out. There is kind of a floor that we will get to with OpEx where we just can't cut any further. And it's more increased cost avoid. We're getting in a world where it's increased cost avoidance rather than taking big chunks of the organization out at this stage. So I think, as I said, net-net, I think we can go a little bit better than our current OpEx as a percentage of sales, but it will flatten out over the next little while.
James Wilson
analystAnd Paul, sorry to push on this, but do you have sort of maybe a sense of what that sustainable run rate longer-term floor might look like as a percentage of sales?
Paul Tyler
executiveI don't. Well, I mean, internally, we have our internal aspirations, but no, it's not a target we're talking to.
Operator
operatorYour next question comes from Liam Robertson from Jarden.
Liam Robertson
analystJust 2 for me. Firstly, on consumer, I'm conscious '27 trading is really early days, but can you talk to us a little bit about PriceLock guarantee, what the uptake has been like there? And then I guess, just as a follow-on, I guess what were you seeing in the market that drove your decision to launch that product?
Paul Tyler
executiveWell, I'll let Dean comment on the take-up. Why did we do it? We have a whole cocktail of different offerings that we put in the market to optimize the consumer portfolio. PriceLock obviously is a proposition which is designed to extend the customer lifetime value. We give up something in short-term ARPU, and we expect it to result in a lower churn profile and a lower -- sorry, a higher contracted life. Early signs are it's doing exactly what we designed it to do. And there's been [ real ] take-up on it, and we don't want it to be across the whole base. So it's quite a targeted proposition. But do you want to comment on take-up?
Dean Tognella
executiveYes, Liam, about 15 months ago, we tried PriceLock on a cohort of customers. And based on those results, we then decided to offer it again this year because we're pleased with the way it worked. It's primarily designed to give the advantage to customers is the certainty around what the costs look like over the next 2 years. So we offered it to both our existing base, and we also offer it to those customers that are joining us. So we're seeing a pleasing percentage of those customers that come on through a promo period decide to take the PriceLock. So we're hopeful that it will have the advantage of reducing churn over the medium term.
Paul Tyler
executiveI might just add, since we launched PriceLock, I know that there has been at least one other RSP who's also launched a PriceLock feature. That's a little bit distinct in that. We ask customers to invest in it. So they actually have to purchase our PriceLock. It's not just a promise that we won't lift prices. It is -- there's an upfront fee. And obviously, then they get a period of stability in their prices. So that combination obviously increases the investment -- the customer investment in the proposition and also we think will increase the loyalty to the program.
Liam Robertson
analystPerfect. Sounds great. And then just secondly on, I guess, Smart Communities, but sort of the interplay with consumer as well. I think we can sort of see in the accounts the intersegment revenue disclosed separately for the first time. Can I just clarify, I'm assuming that reflects, I guess, Smart Communities active lots who have also chosen a Superloop owned retail plan. So I guess if that's the case, my question is, what share of Smart Communities active lots today are already on a Superloop retail plan? And then secondly, like have you got a goal or can you give us a sense of where you think that could get to over time?
Dean Tognella
executiveYes. So to go through that, when we indicated it was 13,000 customers added into the Consumer segment in June. So that represents 13,000 customers that today have a Superloop retail brand, providing the services to them. So that's 13,000 of the Lynham base that we acquired through the acquisition has Superloop as a retail service provider. Today, there's a fraction over 16,500 active services. So you can work out the percentage being 13,000 out of the 16,500. So a reasonably high portion today.
Paul Tyler
executiveBut we've entered into our functional separation undertaking with the ACCC, and we now truly operate our FTTP assets in the loop as an open access wholesaler. So it's available to all RSPs. And obviously, this Superloop-owned RSP portion will shrink as a percentage over time. But that's part of the design of the model.
Liam Robertson
analystOkay. But sorry, can I just clarify then? I mean if it's 13,000 customers, you disclosed $2.4 million, so that's 1 month. I mean that suggests sort of a $180 ARPU. Can you just help me out with what I might be thinking?
Dean Tognella
executiveYes, there's a little bit more in the $2.4 million. So it's not just intercompany, but associated with Neoloop. We decided to do some other intercompany as well between the groups. So we'll give you a bit of help with that one as well to give you what the total elimination value will be in the next 12 months, but you can't just take that month for June and multiply by that 12, you'll end up with too high a number.
Operator
operatorYour next question comes from Will Park from UBS.
William Park
analystCan I just ask -- and my apologies if this was already been asked, just around the wholesale second half margin of 70-odd percent and whether if that's sustainable going forward or whether if there's any sort of room for further improvement from here on?
Paul Tyler
executiveWe offer a range of products in our Wholesale segment, as you know, with different margin profiles. So the net outcome is a mix question. Obviously, the biggest part of our growth in the Wholesale segment has been in our white label and aggregation products, which do carry a higher GM quality. So yes, there's been a progressive improvement of gross margin towards the 70%. I think that's a good number for you to model for the time being. We've always said that 60% was our gross margin target in Wholesale. I accept that that's probably too light now as we look into the future.
William Park
analystAnd then my last question is just around some of the regulatory changes that are being implemented across the industry. Some of your peers are suggesting that that will result in a higher compliance costs. Can you just step through how you're thinking about that and whether if you can kind of absorb that through your initiatives to continue to lower OpEx as a percentage of revenue or whether there are other avenues that you're exploring to effectively pass it on to customers and so forth?
Paul Tyler
executiveNo. Unquestionably, there's a lot of cost that's being driven into the industry and Superloop is no exception there. The compliance costs are increasing, and we have definitely now had to increase our investment in compliance resources and tools and systems. That is what it is, and we make those investments. We have regulatory obligations we have to comply with, and we absolutely intend to comply with those. When I talked about our OpEx as a percentage of sales, I was including those costs in our outlook. We are offsetting those increased costs with rapidly growing top line if we weren't enjoying the top line growth. And yes, that would be a real drag on earnings.
Operator
operatorYour next question comes from the line of Benjamin Jones from JPMorgan.
Benjamin Jones
analystJust a question on costs. It looks like a lot of the leverage that we're seeing is coming through that employee expense bucket, which is obviously very pleasing to see in the context of those AI initiatives. But how should we think about sort of operating leverage in some of those other cost buckets? And can you expect that in marketing and admin other costs as a percentage of revenue, do you expect them to maintain a similar level or potentially step down from here?
Paul Tyler
executiveSo let me touch on the marketing question and maybe, Dean, you could comment on the rest of the P&L. The marketing, we obviously have capacity to invest a lot more in marketing, but there's the continual challenge of hitting the market expectations on EBITDA contribution. But also I think the metapoint on marketing is on returns. So we're very happy with the IRR we get on our marketing investment where it is at the moment. You can expect that our marketing investment will increase in FY '27, but not in proportion -- not in direct proportion to the increase in the top line. We want to keep our return on our marketing investment in the zone where we currently are and increasing marketing investment by too much, we'd see that return start to decline. There's a diminishing returns, obviously, you'd expect from too much investment. So net-net, yes, marketing investment will go up on an absolute basis. As a percentage of revenue, it won't go up.
Dean Tognella
executiveYes. Look, I think the way I look at it is over the last 2 years, we've added a really significant number of new customers. This year alone, we added 200,000. And what we've been able to do is really leverage the investments we've made in our IT stack and our platforms and more recently through AI. So by doing that, we're avoiding the volume type increases that would come in our labor costs, so additional heads going into our call centers. So what we've been able to do is take those sort of savings and redeploy them into areas that Paul has previously mentioned, things like security, AI, compliance, that's where we're putting our additional heads. So from a perspective of the last 2 years, I'm pleased with the absolute level of employee expense growth being quite modest. But within that number, we're certainly changing the mix of our employee base, which is really important because that sets us up for the future. So we've broken the linear relationship between customers and more resources, particularly in our call centers. There'll be some further leverage as we scale further. We'll see more operating leverage come out of Smart Communities because we have, in essence, a fairly fixed cost base that can enable and support somewhere between 16,000 and 20,000 new builds each year, and that will then drive EBITDA improvements as well. So there's more to be done. There's more operating leverage available for us, but we're really pleased with what we've achieved to-date.
Benjamin Jones
analystThat's great detail. Just on the CapEx side of things, I obviously appreciate that we should be sort of waiting for guidance in November. But I mean, how should we think about how much of this CapEx we've seen in '26 is recurring? I get that there was a replacement in the Smart Communities build. But think about that $9.5 million in digital and AI, I mean, should we be thinking about that as one-off or potentially stepping down or how do we think about how much of that is recurring?
Dean Tognella
executiveYes. In the Investor Day that we did in early June, we sort of broke the CapEx up into 2 pieces. We called it BAU CapEx, which we sort of indicated would be between 4.25% and 4.75% of our Group revenue. And then we said we had a sort of second category, which is really associated with Smart Communities, and we indicated that would be around $22 million in FY '27, including $4 million of integration CapEx. So the way I would look at it is we sort of a BAU CapEx, and we've given you the percentages of revenue. And then we've got CapEx that we're putting into Smart Communities we've indicated we're targeting more than 25% IRR on that capital deployed for Smart Communities. So they are the 2 buckets. In terms of within the BAU CapEx, you'll increasingly see more of our CapEx directed towards digital and AI. We will make further investments in FY '27 regarding that. And there'll be sort of routine CapEx required for capacity and expansion growth. I think in the pack, we've indicated we have sufficient installed capacity out there at the NBN points of interconnect for 1.3 million subs. So you'll see the awards, the awards we're getting around speed. We offer a great value product, but it's a really high-quality product, and we need to make sure we continue to invest in increasing the capacity on our network as well.
Operator
operatorWith that, we conclude the question-and-answer session. I will now hand back to Mr. Tyler for closing remarks.
Paul Tyler
executiveWell, thanks, everyone, for your time. And I think we made all the points around our comfort with FY '26. It was a great year for Superloop and how we're positioned for the ambitious targets we've set out for SuperCharge29. So thanks for your time and look forward to the journey. Thank you.
Operator
operatorThank you. That does conclude our conference for today. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.
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