Surf Air Mobility Inc. (SRFM) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary
November 12, 2025
Earnings Call Speaker Segments
Operator
operatorGood evening. My name is Tina, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Surf Air Mobility Third Quarter 2025 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions] I will now pass the call over to Sam Levenson. Please go ahead.
Sam Levenson
attendeeThank you, operator, and good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to Surf Air Mobility's Third Quarter 2025 Earnings Call. I'm joined today by Deanna White, Chief Executive Officer; and Oliver Reeves, Chief Financial Officer. Our earnings release can be found on the SEC EDGAR website and on our Surf Air Mobility Investor Relations page at [email protected]. During this call, we will discuss our outlook and expectations for future performance. These forward-looking statements may be preceded by words such as we expect, we believe, we anticipate or other similar statements. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties and our actual results could differ materially from the views expressed today. Some of those risks have been set forth in our earnings release and in our periodic reports filed with the SEC. During today's call, we will present both GAAP and non-GAAP measures. Additional disclosures regarding non-GAAP measures, including a reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP measures are included in the earnings release we issued today posted on the Surf Air Mobility Investor Relations website and in our filings with the SEC. I'll now turn the call over to Surf Air Mobility's CEO, Deanna White. Deanna?
Deanna White
executiveThank you, Sam, and thank you to everyone who has joined our call today. One year ago, we announced a 4-phase transformation plan to reset the financial and operational trajectory of Surf Air Mobility. Each phase was designed as a building block to execute on our core mission to build the air mobility platform that will transform flying. Our goal is to fly people using technology that generates long-term value for our shareholders. The plan was crafted to first strengthen the financial position of the company, then leverage our many strengths into catalyst for the adoption of software and electrification technology. Our transformation plan is proving to be a reality and not just theory. We are executing and demonstrating improvements in all areas of the business. Financially, operationally and strategically. Financially, over the past year, we have improved our capital structure and deleveraged our balance sheet through a series of debt and equity transactions. During the 12 months ended September 30, 2025, we secured a $50 million credit facility and raised $50 million of additional capital through equity issuances. Furthermore, we reduced our debt by $52 million through paydowns and conversions to equity. Subsequent to the end of the third quarter, we announced a pivotal $100 million strategic financing that will accelerate growth and further strengthen our balance sheet. This financing includes $26 million of new capital to drive development and commercialization of SurfOS. The remaining $74 million structured as a 0 coupon convertible notes will be used to refinance debt, reducing cash interest expense and allowing for further deleveraging of the balance sheet. We will continue to look for opportunities to strengthen our balance sheet and unlock catalysts for our shareholders. Turning to our third quarter results. This quarter marks the seventh consecutive quarter that we have met or exceeded our revenue and adjusted EBITDA guidance. Third quarter revenue of $29.2 million exceeded the company's guidance of $27 million to $28.5 million and rose 6% sequentially versus the second quarter. Adjusted EBITDA loss of $9.9 million was within our guidance range, as the disciplined execution led by our experienced management team once again yielded expected results. With another quarter of improved financial results behind us, we have raised our 2025 revenue guidance to at least $105 million and remain on track for our full year of profitability in our airline operations. Operationally, we have transformed our commuter airlines, consistently producing strong results, which have translated into our second consecutive quarter of profitability in this business. I would like to recognize the achievements of the seasoned aviation team recruited at our systems operations center, which was relocated to Dallas, Texas this past year. This team has created a high functioning operation, grounded in performance metrics that produces safe, reliable and profitable results for the organization. Our operations position us to both become the preferred operator in new markets and to deploy new electrification technology coming to market in the near future. We produced exceptional sales results in our on-demand business for the third quarter, generated an approximate 40% increase in revenue compared to both the second quarter and the same quarter of the prior year. Our on-demand business is executing strongly against our key recalibration initiatives. Third quarter results benefited from a shift in the mix of flying from turboprops to jet aircraft and from domestic to international flights, which resulted in a 14% increase in revenue per flight. At the same time, we reduced expenses of the on-demand team 36% since adopting SurfOS, generating higher revenues for less cost. Additionally, the team implemented profitability enhancements by securing inventory through volume purchase agreements with operators who are also users of SurfOS. Our on-demand business is well positioned for profitable growth. Surf Air Mobility is at the epicenter of the air mobility market, not only as one of the largest commuter airlines in the country, having flown over 300,000 passengers in the past 12 months but also as a result of our relationships with over 400 operators who serve our on-demand operations and who are ideal customers of the SurfOS platform in the future. The Part 135 industry is made up of small businesses with unsophisticated tech stacks and fragmented data. As an operator and broker, we have unique insight into the technology needs of this industry. Our exclusive partnership with Palantir allows us to leverage cutting-edge AI tools and best-in-class data management expertise to build an all-in-one AI-enabled software platform for this industry. During the third quarter, we entered a 5-year agreement with Palantir that expanded our relationship to include exclusivity for products developed for charter brokers and operators. We obtained the ability to team with Palantir on solutions designed for enterprise customers, aircraft manufacturers and the FAA. As part of the recent strategic transaction, we added resources from Palantir to further these efforts. In our SurfOS business, we continue to make substantial progress on driving efficiencies in our own operations by adding incremental functionality and expanding our applications. We have successfully implemented multiple applications within our operations and are already seeing significant improvements in efficiency and profitability. In our scheduled operations, we launched an aircraft and crew scheduling tool in our Northeast and Hawaii networks that required parallel testing and FAA approval. We anticipate that the entire network will be live on this tool by the end of the year. Our SurfOS team also launched additional features within the mobile crew app that increased pre-post flight communications and reporting. Lastly, robust CRM functionality was built into BrokerOS to streamline customer insights and promote sales efficiencies. During 2025, SurfOS has been in a beta test phase with 8 users who have given us valuable insights. We have secured 7 LOIs from brokers and operators, extremely interested in purchasing SurfOS once we commercialize this product. In October, the company hosted a private event at NBAA showcasing SurfOS and conducted 18 product demos for a select group of brokers, operators, aircraft manufacturers and enterprise clients. We are extremely pleased with the progress made in the last year, and expect to exit 2025 with strong momentum as we enter the strategic phases of our transformation plan next year. Strategically, Surf Air Mobility is well positioned to continue optimizing its businesses and begin pursuit of the expansion and acceleration phases of our transformation plan. First, we will commercialize SurfOS and begin full deployment to third parties in 2026. With the recently announced financing, we have secured funding for the continued development and commercialization of SurfOS. SurfOS is AI-driven software powered by Palantir that organizes key stakeholder data into a single platform allowing actionable insights for a business. We intend to launch our 3 flagship SurfOS products in 2026, BrokerOS, OperatorOS and OwnerOS. BrokerOS manages end-to-end sales and sourcing and will empower charter brokers to automate processes. OperatorOS improves efficiency and the utilization of planes, pilots and airport staff. OwnerOS delivers transparency and optimization to private aircraft owners to generate better returns on their aviation assets. These products can be integrated into customized solutions for enterprise clients. We intend to announce our commercialization plan with milestones in the coming months. Second, we are pursuing strategies to showcase new technologies in our airline operations network and in new markets. We currently provide commuter service to approximately 200,000 inter Island flyers annually within the state of Hawaii. The length of these flights ranging from 25 to 75 miles is the perfect testing ground for electrified aircraft coming online in the near future. We are working with aircraft manufacturers in the state of Hawaii to launch a pilot program within our existing network. Additionally, we intend to launch a Part 145 maintenance program to service existing and new technology aircraft and our scouting potential locations within our network to invest. The high functioning system operations center we have built positions Surf Air Mobility to become a preferred operator for companies looking to adopt new aircraft technology in their business models. Billions of dollars are being invested across the aviation industry in the development of new technologies focused on smaller aircraft flying shorter distances. With over a decade of operating both scheduled and on-demand short-haul flights, we have flown millions of passengers, millions of miles and worked with hundreds of operators in this market. This uniquely positions us to deploy these new technologies across a variety of business models and partners. In the meantime, we will continue to add capacity to our network utilizing combustion engine caravans, of which we are taking 4 new deliveries in the first half of 2026. Our work on detailed launch plans continues for new routes we intend to unveil next year. Third, we intend to grow our on-demand business and expand the number of operators in our network through a series of strategic initiatives directed at profitable revenue growth. We will continue our efforts to secure a supply advantage through operator partnerships that provide volume pricing benefits. To achieve our revenue aspirations, we plan to grow our sales team by acquiring seasoned broker talent and books of business. Currently, our on-demand team is working towards the coveted ARGUS broker accreditation, which will equip our operations with 100% operator vetting and strong compliance oversight. Lastly, let me update you on our electrification efforts. We have targeted securing a Supplemental Type Certificate for the electrified powertrain in 2027. As such, we have been working with key organizations within the industry supply chain and are evaluating partnership opportunities where we no longer bear the full cost of development. In addition to being the largest passenger operator of Cessna Grand Caravan, we have an exclusive agreement with Textron Aviation, the manufacturer of this aircraft for us to be the exclusive supplier of electric and hybrid electric powertrains and for Textron Aviation to provide global marketing, sales and distribution for these electrified aircraft. As our progress toward this initiative continues, we look forward to updating you as things unfold. Surf Air Mobility has never been positioned as strongly as we are today, and we fully intend to leverage that strength to drive shareholder value over the coming years. With that, let me now turn the call over to Oliver to cover the recently announced strategic financing and our Q3 results and Q4 outlook in more detail. Oliver?
Oliver Reeves
executiveThank you, Deanna. In my remarks today, I will address the company's third quarter results and outlook for the fourth quarter and full year. But first, let me share details on our continued efforts to strengthen our balance sheet and secure capital for our technology initiatives that we believe will create significant shareholder value. On November 10, 2025, Surf Air Mobility announced a $100 million strategic transaction that will continue to enable us to achieve our transformation plan. This transaction directs $26 million from new equity issuances specifically to the development and commercialization of SurfOS, shifting this initiative from its beta phase into its commercial phase. A new institutional investor and a Surf Air mobility cofounder, together with the related party, each purchased $10 million of this offering, which includes common stock and 2-year warrants exercisable at a purchase price of $3.32 per share. Finally, Palantir was issued $6 million of new common equity as prepayments for software and additional services. This capital will be used to fund the continued development of SurfOS's 3 flagship products, BrokerOS, OperatorOS and OwnerOS and to enable the scaling of our engineering and sales capabilities. The proceeds will also be used to invest in the development of new modules and products to capture a larger share of the growing air mobility software market. In the coming months, we intend to publicly share more information about SurfOS products, the sizable and growing addressable market, our distribution and commercialization strategy and the pricing and business models, which will set revenue expectations for 2026. Concurrently with the equity raise, Surf Air Mobility completed the sale of a $74 million convertible note, yielding net cash proceeds to the company of $65 million. The company will use a portion of these proceeds to pay $51 million under the company's 4-year credit agreement with affiliates of Comvest Partners and $8 million outstanding under the company's secured convertible note with Partners For Growth V, L.P. In aggregate, repayment of these liabilities represent a reduction in cash interest expense of approximately $5.5 million on an annualized basis. Earlier in the quarter, a lender transferred $35 million of the outstanding principal under their convertible note to a third party under terms identical to the original note. The new holder of the note converted the entire balance inclusive of accrued interest into 7.2 million shares of the company's common stock. This resulted in the elimination of a $35 million liability and a reduction of $3.5 million in annualized cash interest expense. Finally, during the quarter, the company elected to pay down $8.2 million of the outstanding principal of the GEM mandatory convertible securities. To summarize, we significantly reduced our liabilities in Q3 and have subsequently provided funding for the continued development and commercialization of SurfOS. As a result of the financing transaction, we now see a path for the company to be debt free. Now let me turn to the results of the third quarter and our outlook for the remainder of the year. As discussed in our earnings release, revenue from the quarter exceeded our guidance and adjusted EBITDA met our guidance. Strong execution of our transformation plan has driven significant improvement in our key operating metrics in both our scheduled service and on-demand operations, yielding significant and sustainable improvements in financial results. Third quarter revenue of $29.2 million exceeded our guidance range of $27 million to $28.5 million and rose 6% sequentially over the second quarter, driven by a 42% increase in on-demand revenue, partially offset by a 4% decrease in scheduled service revenue. On a year-over-year basis, revenue increased 3%, driven by a 40% increase in on-demand revenue, partially offset by a 7% decrease in scheduled service revenue. The drivers of both sequential and year-over-year increases in revenue were primarily related to a shift in the mix to larger aircraft in international flights which resulted in an increase in revenue per departure in our on-demand business and the exiting of unprofitable routes offset by improved operational metrics in our scheduled service operations. Our adjusted EBITDA loss of $9.9 million for the third quarter was within our guidance range of a loss of $10 million to $8.5 million. Compared with the second quarter and the same quarter of the prior year, adjusted EBITDA loss was relatively flat. Adjusted EBITDA loss continues to benefit from improvements in key operating metrics, including on-time departure, on-time arrival and controllable completion factor demonstrating the permanency of our transformation strategies. Our Airline Operations achieved a second consecutive quarter of profitability, defined as positive adjusted EBITDA. Now let's discuss our outlook for the fourth quarter and full year. For the fourth quarter, we expect revenue to be within a range of $25.5 million to $27.5 million and adjusted EBITDA loss to be within a range of $6.5 million to $8 million. These ranges reflect the exit of unprofitable routes and continued efforts to improve profitability. For the full year, we are raising our revenue guidance to at least $105 million, and we are reaffirming our guidance for full year airline operations profitability defined as positive adjusted EBITDA. With that, let me turn the call back over to the operator for Q&A. Operator?
Operator
operator[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Amit Dayal with H.C. Wainright.
Amit Dayal
analystCongrats on all the progress. So with this financing guys, what kind of cash run rate do you have in terms of commercializing SurfOS?
Deanna White
executiveThank you for your interest in being on the call. I'll turn that over -- that question over to Oliver the CFO, to answer.
Oliver Reeves
executiveAs you saw, there were really 2 uses for the financing. One is, obviously, the investment in the SurfOS and we believe that, that will give us a runway of between 18 and 24 months.
Amit Dayal
analystOkay. That's good to hear. So you have some really interesting partnerships with Palantir, with Beta Technologies. Can you talk a little bit about what is happening with those efforts? And especially in the context of Beta Technologies, they just went public, how are you potentially working with that company to commercialize the SurfOS offering?
Deanna White
executiveAmit, I think you -- we announced in the second quarter working with Electra and that we had an Electra aircraft order for their future CTOL, but obviously, there are -- there is a lot of really interesting electrification technology like coming from folks like Beta, Archer, Joby that are coming in the near future. And obviously, we, as a company, are well positioned to be able to partner with all of these folks that are bringing on this new technology. Why is that? It's because we fly in the regional air mobility space with these vehicles because they're shorter haul distances, we'll be able to be perfect testing ground for those. And we're also in our SurfOS product. We are developing the platform in which all of these types of products can play within our platform, whether they're in our network or if they're deployed in other operators' network. They can be within our SurfOS commercial platform and be where our platform is an ecosystem for all of these new products that are coming on online in the very near future.
Amit Dayal
analystApologies if I've got the Beta Technologies thing wrong. And then from a just an operating perspective as you are exiting some of these unprofitable routes, are there opportunities to lower operating costs over the next 12 to 18 months?
Deanna White
executiveAbsolutely, Amit. We are still optimizing our airline operations. We are -- we don't have all the capabilities of SurfOS fully capable in our organization's operations. There are still more benefits to receive once we do have all of those tools in place. And we have the ability to use the optimization. So we can still hit those really great operational metrics that we are today consistently. But in the future, we're using technology, we should be able to do it more efficiency -- with more efficiency and more optimization, which would require, obviously, less resources and less cost in the system. So we do plan and we do see the opportunity for increased levels of profitability and even operational performance in the future.
Amit Dayal
analystUnderstood. I'll take my other questions off-line. And again, congrats on the execution.
Operator
operatorYour next question comes from the line of Austin Moeller with Canaccord Genuity.
Austin Moeller
analystJust my first question here. Are there any features of SurfOS that you plan to make exclusive for your on-demand or scheduled business? Or will all of your beta testers and customers have access to all of the features of the stack?
Deanna White
executiveOur intention is to have all the features available to third parties. We represent a great staging ground and testing ground because we are -- we have a unique ability to meet both because we're both a broker and an operator. We bring insights into what is needed. So when you're working hand-in-hand with the tech team and Palantir to bring insights into the product requirements, we're able to make an amazing state-of-the-art tool that we are using in our own space. And we want that product to be deployed to other folks in the space and bring those people into the commercial platform and the ecosystem that, that software develops for the industry.
Austin Moeller
analystOkay. And on the scheduled business, so revenue was a little lower year-over-year. How many are more routes might you expect to move from the scheduled business before adding some of the new Tier 1 routes? And where geographically are you looking to add the new routes?
Deanna White
executiveSo we have a few more -- a couple more exits in the fourth quarter. That's why our outlook for the fourth quarter revenue dropped a bit. But we -- that will be the end of it and all of the exiting of the unprofitable routes will be complete by the end of this year. Unless, of course, one of those routes tries to hold us in longer before they can get the new carrier in. As far as the announcement of any specifics on the 2026 launch of a new route that's -- we don't want to do that too soon to give away that competitive advantage of exactly where we're going. But the team is busy developing and has a full business plan on exactly how that will have to come to play. And obviously, we're using a lot of really good data that we have on where the demand is, where are people traveling, that we can take them out of their cars and put them into the air using our service. And we have used that to make our decisions and then down select where we're going to go.
Operator
operatorYour next question comes from the line of David Storms with Stonegate.
David Storms
analystI did want to start Oliver, you had a comment in your prepared remarks that you see a path for the company to be debt free. I was just hoping you could speak a little more to maybe some of the variables that you would see impacting that and any sense of a time line there?
Oliver Reeves
executiveWell, as you see, the convertible was designed with features that would allow us to gradually delever our balance sheet, so we feel that over time, this is a much better path for us rather than facing high interest or high cash interest debt and then bullet payments. So we feel pretty good about that across the duration of the convert, which, as you see, has a maturity of October 31, 2028. So as that converts and as we succeed, hopefully before then, we have a great path to becoming debt-free.
David Storms
analystUnderstood. I appreciate that. And then I also did want to circle back to the comment around SurfOS reaching commercialization, hopefully, within the next 18 to 24 months. The logistics around that, would you expect some sort of soft launch in the 12 to 18 month range that would maybe start generating revenue? Or I guess, maybe what are your thoughts around that as we get closer to getting SurfOS on its speed?
Deanna White
executiveYes. So thanks, David. We -- our plans, we have a commercial plan, we'll unveil in the coming months, but we do plan in the first half of 2026 to start generating revenue with that product. And we do -- so we will have revenue guidance that we give out and further discussion of the business model and the commercialization plan for 2026 and beyond, but we are starting commercialization. We're out of the beta phase and we're doing everything. And this recent financing that we got for the strategic transaction we just announced is the catalyst to be able to start full commercialization.
David Storms
analystThat's great. And then one more for me, if I could. Just any commentary around the recent government shutdown. Has that impacted your business model in the first half of Q4 here and I'll turn it over.
Deanna White
executiveYes. So our company's business is impacted in two ways from the government shutdown. I'll speak to the first because it's most on top of people's mind is the traffic reductions that were recently announced by the FAA. None of those traffic reductions targeted us or any of our operations or any of the regional flying, they were more directed at larger hubs and in the major airports. So we did not have any capacity reductions that we continued on operating and carrying our customers without any disruptions. The second area that we are -- can be impacted from is we do participate in the essential air service program. We do routes in the rural areas under that program. That program includes subsidies to the companies who operate those flights. The DOT did during the shutdown period, notify those carriers and say that there would potentially be a suspension of those fundings, that has not happened. But even if it was, we would continue to operate until the government came back up. We want to support all the communities in our essential air service program and we committed to doing that. Right now, the current letter from the DOT talks about a suspension starting November 18, but hopefully, the government can get back in this week and not be affected by that at all. So the 2 areas that we would be -- would have been affected. And so far, we haven't. We've gotten all our EAS subsidies that we have billed and haven't had any flight cancellations.
Operator
operatorI will now hand the call back to Deanna White for further response.
Deanna White
executiveHi, everyone. For the first time during this earnings release, we have launched a new retail investor Q&A forum called [ Say Media ]. So we had a number of investors who submitted questions, and I appreciate everyone who submitted questions to that. We have selected a handful of the top ones that were voted on by the folks to address an answer. So I'll start with the first one. Given the current market skepticism and volatility, what is your plan to gain investor confidence and prove Surf Air can execute its vision better than competitors? So at Surf Air Mobility, we are hyper focused on shareholder value. And we've come a very long way in the last year. Over a year ago, we launched the transformation plan. So that is the plan that we are executing on to make sure that we can gain investor confidence in our company. The plan of the last year, like I have spoke of, has been very effective. We have hit all of our milestones. We have improved and stabilized our operations. We've done a lot of work to stabilize our balance sheet and address our capital structure. And with this recent announcement, we are allocating funds to the higher-growth areas, SurfOS and we have delivered on the development milestones within SurfOS for the last year. You see us proving and performing against that plan as we've achieved our second -- seventh consecutive quarter of meeting or exceeding our guidance. And investors are noticing, in the last 6 months, we've seen 10x the amount of shareholders in our stock, and it's been great to see that many people interested and investing in our company. The second question was, with all the volatility over valuations and pull back from investors in regards to AI, can we expect true and realistic numbers coming from your company? So I'll turn this question over to Sudhin Shahani, our Co-Founder, to address.
Sudhin Shahani
executiveThank you, Deanna. I think as you commented on earlier, we're going to comment on the numbers of the software SurfOS business for 2026 later on and our 2026 year to start commercializing. But I'm going to address a couple of key points around our approach in positioning in the AI space. What we're building a vertical AI product where we're solving specific high-value problems for businesses using domain-specific data in an industry we consider ourself an expert. We're not investing in foundational model, and we have a capital-efficient approach here, building core applications and leveraging data infrastructure for Palantir. And I would make a point that there are clear examples of companies in the space providing business solutions and applying AI with high degrees of profitability in these situations. Our partner Palantir is actually a perfect example of that.
Deanna White
executiveThank you, Sudhin. The next question is very pertinent because we are talking to you from the Hawthorne Airport, where we have our corporate headquarters for this call. There was a recent last week, Archer Aviation announced their acquisition of the Hawthorne airport. Considering the Surf Air corporate headquarters is there, what changes do you expect to emerge from this? Are these plans to work with -- are there plans to work with Archer considering they're also a Palantir partner? Interesting enough, we have been talking and highlighting for our industry the underutilized and underinvested airports that exist throughout the country. There's 50 -- there's 5,000 -- sorry, 5,000 public use airports just like Hawthorne that can be used for the future of aviation through advanced air mobility. So we've been ahead of the curve because we play in this space, and we've been talking about this for a while. Interesting enough, the industry and the investment in the aviation industry is moving from investment in R&D with OEMs that are making these aircraft and starting to move into infrastructure investments. This is bringing a mass -- going to bring a mass investment cycle change because you've got to now go in and make all the investment to have all the infrastructure needed for all these vehicles that are coming in the near future. So it makes sense that a party and a player like Archer Aviation would purchase such a thing from the -- as far as Hawthorne Airport. And as far as partnering with these types of players, we're someone who flies today in those spaces in the shorter haul miles, and we're developing a software platform for that industry. And so we'll likely work with many of these best-in-class next-generation manufacturers to help bring their vehicles into the ecosystem and to our customers. And our last question is what would be the main goal of the company to achieve by Q3 of 2026, so in the next year? We want to continue to deliver execution on our transformation plan. Our transformation plan has 4 phases. We're in the second phase moving into the third phase. We will continue to demonstrate stable permanent operational performance, improving and optimizing our business through the adoption of software and the technologies that we ourselves are developing. The big thing in the next year is going to be our commercial rollout of SurfOS that we have planned. And we have secured the funding for that with the recent strategic transaction that we announced earlier this week. So that concludes our Q&A. Thank you, everyone, for tuning in, listening to us and the continued support of our company and hope to looking forward to talking to you in our next quarter earnings release when we start talking more about '26, and we're able to provide more insight into the commercialization details and the plans we have for 2026.
Operator
operatorThat concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.
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