Sutro Biopharma, Inc. (STRO) Earnings Call Transcript & Summary

September 9, 2020

NASDAQ US Health Care special 44 min

Earnings Call Speaker Segments

Operator

operator
#1

Good afternoon, and welcome to the Sutro Biopharma conference call to discuss the updated clinical data from its ongoing Phase I trial for STRO-002 that was released after market closed today. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that this call is being recorded at the company's request. Now at this time, I would like to turn the call over to Ed Albini, Chief Financial Officer at Sutro Biopharma. Sir, please go ahead.

Edward Albini

executive
#2

Thank you, operator. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us. With me on the call from Sutro are Bill Newell, Chief Executive Officer; Dr. Arturo Molina, Chief Medical Officer; Dr. Trevor Hallam, Chief Scientific Officer; and Linda Fitzpatrick, Chief People and Communications Officer. Additionally, Dr. Wendel Naumann of the Levine Cancer Institute is also on the call. This afternoon, we issued a press release and 8-K that you can find on our website at sutrobio.com, which includes updated results on safety and antitumor activity from our ongoing Phase I dose escalation study of STRO-002 in ovarian and endometrial cancer, reflecting patient data cutoff as of August 31, 2020. Before we start, I would like to remind you that today's call will include forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements are based on Sutro's expectations and assumptions as of the date of this call. Each of these forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties that could cause Sutro's clinical development programs, future results or performance to differ significantly from those expressed or implied by the forward-looking statements. Please refer to Sutro's filings with the SEC, including our 2019 Form 10-K for information concerning factors that could cause Sutro's actual results to differ from those expressed or implied in the forward-looking statements discussed on this call. Except as required by law, Sutro assumes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements discussed on this call to reflect any change in expectations, even as new information becomes available. With that, I would now like to turn the call over to Bill Newell for some opening remarks, followed by the data presentation by Dr. Arturo Molina and Dr. Wendel Naumann, and then close with a Q&A session.

William Newell

executive
#3

Good afternoon. Today, we are pleased to share our promising updated safety and antitumor activity data for our ongoing Phase I study of STRO-002, our homogeneous folate receptor alpha antibody drug conjugate. As a reminder, STRO-002 consists of an antibody targeting folate receptor alpha to which Sutro has in an optimized site-specific manner attached to a cleavable linker and a novel proprietary hemiasterlin warhead. The drug day antibody ratio of STRO-002 is 4. There continues to be a high unmet need for new therapies to treat ovarian cancer. We believe that folate receptor alpha has been validated as a target while other targets remain exploratory. Folate receptor alpha is overexpressed in approximately 80% of ovarian cancer patients, and there is minimal expression in normal tissues. STRO-002 was discovered and developed using our proprietary XpressCF platform and the core manufacturing of STRO-002 is being conducted at our cGMP manufacturing facility in Northern California. We believe our cGMP manufacturing facility provides a strategic advantage for Sutro as we control a critical aspect of the CMC process for making STRO-002 and our other ADC product candidates. We designed STRO-002 with the goal of widening the therapeutic window with the potential to improve tumor control and to achieve better patient tolerability. The data we present today clearly suggests that optimally designed ADCs can achieve both of these objectives. As a reminder, in this Phase I dose escalation study of STRO-002, we are enrolling patients without knowing their level of folate receptor alpha expression at the time of enrollment. Importantly, the 39 ovarian cancer patients in this phase of our study are very heavily pretreated and had a median of 5 prior lines of therapy. Dr. Naumann will break down those prior lines of therapy momentarily. As you will hear, these patients entered our STRO-002 trial with very advanced disease. Prior studies suggest that patients who have had 5 prior lines of therapy should not expect much in the way of disease control and should not expect a long duration on study. They are also more likely to be susceptible to adverse events because of the toxicities associated with their numerous prior therapies. As you will see in the slides to be presented shortly by Dr. Naumann, at the more therapeutically relevant dose levels of 2.9 mg per kg level or higher, 33 patients were evaluable for RECIST response. 8 patients experienced a partial response, that's 7 more than we previously reported in April of this year. The overall response rate is now 24%, up from 5% in April. The disease control rate is now 60%, up from 40% in April. 13 patients, 38% remain on study with further potential to improve these outcomes. Dr. Naumann will share in more detail that STRO-002 is generally well tolerated. As a reminder, prophylactic treatment with corticosteroid eye drops has not been required to date, even at the higher doses. We report that 87% of adverse events observed are grade 1 or grade 2. We're encouraged by the overall safety profile and believe that patients and their physicians will value STRO-002's differentiated safety profile and anti-tumor activity in a heavily pretreated ovarian cancer patients in contrast to other available treatments. I will now ask Dr. Naumann to lead us through the data we released earlier today.

Wendel Naumann

attendee
#4

Thanks, Bill. So on behalf of my coinvestigators, it is my pleasure to present the data on the Phase I dose escalation study of STRO-002 from the 2020 International Gynecologic Cancer Society meeting. This is a Phase I first-in-human study as STRO-002, an anti-folate antibody drug conjugate in patients with advanced platinum-resistant or refractory epithelial ovarian cancer. The Phase I dose study was designed to determine drug safety, maximum tolerated dose, recommended Phase II dose, pharmacokinetic data and the preliminary efficacy of STRO-002. The trial employed an accelerated lead in for the first 2 dose levels of a single patient, followed by a standard 3 by 3 design for subsequent dose levels after the clinically active 2.9 milligram per kilogram dose. This trial is being conducted at 10 centers through the United States. The enrollment of the dose escalation part of this study is complete. A total of 39 patients with the current platinum-resistant and refractory ovarian cancer or patients who have been treated with at least 2 previous platinum regimens were enrolled. It is important to note that these patients were enrolled without regard to folate level expression in their tumors or the number of previous chemotherapy regimens. Dosing was given by IV infusion every 21 days. The cohort enrolled in this trial included heavily pretreated patients and also patients were included without regard to folate alpha expression. In addition, some of these patients were platinum refractory. A median age of the patients was 61, approximately 60% of patients had an ECOG score of 0 and 40% had an ECOG score of 1. Median number of lines of prior therapy was 5 with a range of 2 to 10. Almost all patients had had prior treatment with taxane. 80% had prior treatment with bevacizumab, 60% with a PARP inhibitor, 20% with an immune checkpoint inhibitor, and 1/3 of these patients had been enrolled in previous clinical trials. Dose escalation was complete through the 6 milligram per kilogram level. STRO-002 was generally well tolerated and mostly associated with mild adverse events. It is important to note that many patients enrolled in this trial had prior taxane-induced neuropathy and many have been treated with more than 1 line of taxane-based therapy. 80% -- 87% of all treatment-emergent adverse events reported are either grade 1 or 2. Observed grade 3 toxicities included fatigue in 10%, neutropenia in 26%, arthralgia in 13%, abdominal pain in 8%, elevated AST in 3%, diarrhea in 3% and peripheral neuropathy in 5%. The grade 4 toxicities noted were neutropenia, febrile neutropenia and GI bleeding in 1 patient each. The 2 DLTs noted were neuropathy at the 6 milligram per kilogram dose level and bone pain at 6.4 milligram per kilogram dose level. Of note, ocular toxicity was minimum. And prophylactic corticosteroid eye drops were not used in this study. Robust anti-tumor activity was noted in the Phase I population. 20 of 33 patients or 60% had some reduction in tumor volume with a RECIST-defined partial response in 8 of 33% or 24% of patients. This is significantly higher than expected in this patient population. Further, disease control rate was 60% at 12 weeks. As noted, 38% of patients remained on study at the time of data analysis. An example is shown of a dramatic response in a poly metastasis where the tumor shrink 74% over a 16-week period of time, and this patient remains on study. The tumor responded the entire cohort demonstrates the long disease control rate in this heavily pretreated population is unenriched for folate alpha expression. 44% of patients were maintained on treatment greater than 16 weeks and 12% for greater than 52 weeks. 8 partial responses have been observed. 2 are confirmed with the second scan and 6 are unconfirmed. Some of these partial responses had emerged after an initial period of ongoing disease regression that did not meet the criteria for partial response. Interestingly, 6 out of 8 or 75% of the partial responses were maintained for greater than 16 weeks, and 5 of these patients remain on study. It is important to remember that this is a heavily pre-treated patient population with platinum-resistant ovarian cancer. RECIST defined responses in patients with platinum-resistant ovarian cancer, even without including platinum refractory patients, are only expected in about 5% of this patient population. Further, it has been our experience that we have seen no responses in patients with 3 more lines of chemotherapy after the development of platinum resistance. High rates of CA-125 reduction have also been observed in the 25 patients with elevated CA-125s at baseline that could be evaluated by the GCIG criteria for response by CA-125. 18 or 72% were noted to decrease through CA-125 by 50% or more. Over half of these CA-125 responses were confirmed or maintained for over 28 days. Although CA-125 response criteria are not currently favored by the FDA, this does correspond with response and stable disease. For the patients, this translates to a clinically meaningful benefit. To summarize, the overall response rate is 24% in its heavily pretreated platinum-resistant and refractory population, disease control rate is 60% in 12 weeks and 44% in 16 weeks. This population was not enriched for folate alpha expression, and 38% of patients remain on study with the potential to improve these response data. Heterogenicity (sic) [ heterogeneity ] of tumor response has been noted with delayed partial responses and disease stabilization in this patient population. A high rate of CA-125 response has also been noted. The safety profile is encouraging. The neutropenia observed is short-lived and reversible. There's no need for prophylactic corticosteroid eye drops or other protective eye maneuvers. 87% of adverse events were grade 1 and 2. And peripheral neuropathy and arthralgias that have been observed at the higher dose levels were managed with dose reductions without apparent compromise of antitumor activity. Lastly, I'd like to thank my co investigators, our study coordinators, Sutro Biopharma and most of all the patients and their families for making this trial possible. Thank you.

Arturo Molina

executive
#5

Thank you, Dr. Naumann for presenting these exciting results of the STRO-002-GM1 dose escalation study. This table summarizes the improved efficacy outcomes such as increased overall response rate and disease control response rate observed as the data has matured with longer follow-up. Overall response rate increased from 5% to 24%. We have observed PRs in 8 out of 33 evaluable patients treated at greater than or equal to 2.9 mg per kg. And unlike other sponsors, we have not excluded patients who progressed or came on study before their first post baseline imaging scan. Disease control rate has improved to 60% with 20 out of 33 patients achieving either a partial response or stable disease at 12 weeks. As Dr. Naumann mentioned, 44% of patients have been on study for greater than 16 weeks and 4 patients or 12%, have been on study for longer than a year. Also as Dr. Naumann discussed, CA-125 responses in patients treated with STRO-002 often produces clinically -- clinical responses and stable disease, which translates to a clinically meaningful benefit for the 7 pre-treated ovarian cancer patient population. Notably, 38% or 13 of the 34 patients treated at greater than or equal to 2.9 mg per kg remain on study with potential to further improve these outcomes. STRO-002 is clinically efficacious at multiple doses, starting at 2.9 mg per kg. The totality of efficacy observed to date compares favorably and is potentially superior to other ADCs in clinical development for ovarian cancer. Those reductions or delays did not appear to result in loss of antitumor activity. Further dose optimization will be explored during dose expansion, and we anticipate that the recommended Phase II dose will be in the 4.3 to 5.2 mg per kg range. Overall, STRO-002 is generally well tolerated and responding patients can stay on treatment for extended periods of time. A dose expansion phase of this trial is planned in patients with less heavily pretreated ovarian cancer in the latter half of 2020. Goals of this study are to better define the response rates, duration of response, PFS and provide enhanced PK and safety data. We're currently evaluating and comparing the performance and reproducibility of 2 folate receptor alpha immunohistochemistry assays. One of these assays will be selected to further characterize the relationship between folate receptor alpha expression levels and efficacy outcomes. An end of Phase I/II meeting with the FDA is planned for next year. Based on regulatory precedents and the encouraging efficacy and safety data reported today, we will explore accelerator approval clinical development strategies. Bill?

William Newell

executive
#6

Thank you, Arturo, and thank you, Dr. Naumann, for sharing these encouraging updated interim Phase I data for STRO-002. We plan to initiate the dose expansion phase of the STRO-002 clinical study before the end of this year. That is our presentation for this afternoon, and we will now turn to questions. Operator, you may please proceed.

Operator

operator
#7

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Boris Peaker with Cowen and Company.

Boris Peaker

analyst
#8

Congratulations on an improving data set.

William Newell

executive
#9

Thank you, Boris.

Boris Peaker

analyst
#10

My first question is when are we going to get the folate receptor alpha expression data? And also in that context, you've mentioned that there are 2 assays being explored to assess that folate receptor alpha levels. Can you comment on what those assays are?

William Newell

executive
#11

Yes, Boris. We'll ask Arturo Molina to answer your question.

Arturo Molina

executive
#12

Yes, we were not permitted to require tissue from our study participants during dose escalations. Even so, we have been able to obtain tissue samples from about 60% of the study participants. This is a small number of samples from which to draw conclusions when compared to other assays that have been developed. We are assessing the reliability and consistency of 2 different folate receptor alpha expression IHC assays. Until we select the appropriate assay, we are not able to evaluate folate receptor of expression in the context of patient response in this small sample size.

Boris Peaker

analyst
#13

Well, can you use the same assay that ImmunoGen is using?

Arturo Molina

executive
#14

That's under consideration.

Boris Peaker

analyst
#15

Got you. And I guess my last question, for the dose expansion trial, just curious, are you also going to include all-comer patients? Or at that point, are you going to establish kind of a minimal threshold for folate alpha expressions, so you could just focus on those patients?

Arturo Molina

executive
#16

These specific questions are under discussion with the FDA as part of our proposed protocol amendment, and we will share this information after we have a final protocol and open the expansion cohorts.

Operator

operator
#17

Our next question comes from Ted Tenthoff with Piper Sandler.

Edward Tenthoff

analyst
#18

Just remind us what the expansion cohorts could look like as you guys enter in on the final dose?

William Newell

executive
#19

Arturo will update you on our current thinking to the extent we can, Ted, at this point. We want to make certain that we in sync with FDA, obviously.

Arturo Molina

executive
#20

Ted, based on clinical development precedents, the next step for expansion cohort is to go into a less heavily pretreated patient population. And once we have an agreement with the FDA, we will share the final protocol schema.

Edward Tenthoff

analyst
#21

Excellent. And I'm sorry, I know you mentioned this but when is your plan to meet with the FDA?

Trevor Hallam

executive
#22

Well, right now, the -- we are submitting a protocol amendment that describes the expansion cohort. Once we get that cleared, we will disclose the details of the protocol. But we want to make sure the FDA agrees with our plan first. And we're on target to get those -- the ovarian cancer expansion cohort started in the latter half of this year.

Operator

operator
#23

Our next question comes from Roger Song with Jefferies.

Jiale Song

analyst
#24

Congrats for the data. And a few questions related to the data. And then maybe the first one is the -- so how many patients have had the deepening response from the stable disease to the partial response? Have you analyzed the data?

William Newell

executive
#25

So I'll ask Arturo to answer that for you.

Arturo Molina

executive
#26

Yes. Just about 3 of those were patients who were -- had regression of disease that had not made it to the 30% and some are newer patients who got a PR after 2 cycles. So one of the confirmed PRs got the initial PR of the 2 cycles, and the others are patients who had ongoing tumor regression, but had not quite made it to the PR yet. And this demonstrates some heterogeneity in the tumor responses, which can be observed. But if you look at the waterfall plot, many patients have regression of tumor, about 60% of them. And some of them are still ongoing. So the potential for some of these to convert into partial responses is still there.

Jiale Song

analyst
#27

Got it. Basically, you're seeing some kind of deepening response from those patients, they're not reaching the PR but they are kind of improving?

Arturo Molina

executive
#28

That is correct.

Jiale Song

analyst
#29

Got it. Okay. And the -- for the -- it seems you're considering like 4.3 to 5.2 kind of a mg per kg, any kind of dose response for your current kind of data set? And what is the response for those kind of dose range?

Arturo Molina

executive
#30

Well, we saw responses and robust evidence of antitumor activity starting at 2.9 mg per kg and higher dose levels. So we believe that this gives us a wide therapeutic window. And also when we look at the patients who have been on treatment for over a year, those are patients who either started at 2.9 or started at 4.3. So we are interested in exploring lower doses that are very efficacious, where we have seen robust anti-tumor activity and where we know that patients can stand treatment for over a year. That will be very important as part of our development program.

Jiale Song

analyst
#31

Yes, certainly. Got it. Okay. Maybe if I may, just a last question. So for those 3 unconfirmed PR, what is the reason for the drop-off?

William Newell

executive
#32

So Roger, the question was for the ones who were unconfirmed PRs?

Jiale Song

analyst
#33

And out of the treatment, what are the reasons for the drop-off?

Arturo Molina

executive
#34

Oh, those that did not -- well, some patients got a PR, and then ultimately, they progress before confirmation. And some of these, again, show after the patients have been on treatment for quite a while. So 1 patient reached the PR after 10 cycles. And was -- just had a continuous low ongoing regression of disease.

Operator

operator
#35

Our next question comes from David Nierengarten with Wedbush Securities.

David Nierengarten

analyst
#36

The -- is there -- I know it's early days, but the -- is there any correlation with the number of prior treatments and either duration of or actual response or duration of response?

William Newell

executive
#37

Thanks, David. Arturo?

Arturo Molina

executive
#38

Yes. With this number of patients, it's pretty hard to correlate, as you see in this patient who is enjoying a dramatic response, that patient have 4 prior regimens. And the patient who has PR up over a year, had, I believe, 8 prior regimens. So right now it's hard for us to tell, but it's something we're very interested in analyzing.

Operator

operator
#39

Our next question comes from Asthika Goonewardene with Truist Securities.

Asthika Goonewardene

analyst
#40

Congrats on the update on what's looking like -- should be out to be a solid data set here. I was wondering if you could tell me a little bit about, so the 60% of patients where you did have biopsies in those patients. Did you get more than one? So could we maybe have a pre-treatment biopsy in a post-treatment biopsy in some of these patients? And then I have a couple of follow-ups.

William Newell

executive
#41

Thanks, Asthika. Arturo will pick that up for you.

Arturo Molina

executive
#42

No. Right now we do not have pre and post-treatment biopsies. ImmunoGen has done that in some of their studies and show that there's concordance with fresh biopsies and archival tissue. What we do know, and that's part of what we are -- the amendment to the protocol is for the expansion cohort, we will ask that every patient provide us either with archival tissue or fresh tissue if archival tissue is not available. And this is consistent with what other sponsors have done when they move on to expansion cohorts.

Asthika Goonewardene

analyst
#43

Got it. Okay. And then on the expansion, would you have news, clinical trial site come online for that as you roll out the expansion phase?

Arturo Molina

executive
#44

Absolutely, as soon as we know the protocol clears, it will be updated in clinicaltrials.gov.

Asthika Goonewardene

analyst
#45

Okay. So I guess, Arturo, would you be able to maybe give us some sort of an idea of how quickly you'd be able to recruit for the expansion phase?

Arturo Molina

executive
#46

I think we are encouraged by the investigator interest to date, and we are expanding to more study sites. And we are looking at sites that might not have competing activities. So if the enrollment in the dose escalation is any reflection or the enthusiasm and enrollment in dose escalation is any reflection of how the expansion cohort will perform, we think that accrual will be robust. But of note is because we are going after a less heavily pretreated patient population, that could impact the enrollment. But we -- once we have that agreement with the FDA meaning that the protocol is submitted and they have comments or they don't have comments, after the 30 days post submission if there's no comments, we will share with everyone what the protocol looks like.

William Newell

executive
#47

We've also been fortunate to have not been severely impacted in our time lines as a result of the pandemic. And I think we'll just have to see how the rest of the country does over the course of the next 3 to 6 months. And see whether or not the pandemic is going to have a greater effect, not only in our clinical trials, but on everybody else's. But despite what has been difficult circumstances for many patients, we were able to keep enrolling patients on the schedule that we had set. So we're cautiously optimistic about the dose expansion phase.

Asthika Goonewardene

analyst
#48

Excellent. And then the last one I have, gents, is -- so just help me understand, what are some of the things you could do to manage maybe with the treatment, maybe the patient management protocols to manage the neutropenia that you're seeing? Or do you think that when you get into a less heavily pretreated population that this is something that's going to be probably pronounced as well?

William Newell

executive
#49

I think it will be a combination of both, and we might ask Dr. Naumann to also comment. But I think in patients who are less heavily pretreated, the tolerability is expected to improve. Some of our patients have been on multiple treatments, including PARP inhibitors. And they come in with evidence of some bone marrow compromise. Definitely, we see some patients with anemia and other evidence of bone marrow compromise. And then if we focus our activity at the 4.3 mg per kg, 5.2 mg per kg, I think what we've seen so far for example, is we definitely see a lot less neutropenia at 4.3. So a combination of dose in prior therapy could -- is part of the -- what impacts the neutropenia. But I might ask Dr. Naumann to comment on his experience and how he has handled the neutropenia that develops. So Wendel?

Wendel Naumann

attendee
#50

Yes, I totally agree. This is not unexpected for any kind of chemotherapy in this heavily pretreated partial population, and I've probably had now 10 of these patients. It's usually just a dose delay issue or a dose reduction issue, and it's because of bone marrow fatigue from prior chemotherapies and/or other treatments.

Operator

operator
#51

Our next question comes from Jim Birchenough with Wells Fargo.

James Birchenough

analyst
#52

Congratulations on the update. Good to see the response rates continuing to go up. I joined a little late, so I apologize if this has been asked. But I guess, number one, just in looking at the smaller group of patients that didn't respond as well to STRO-002. Is there anything that distinguishes those patients beyond being more heavily pretreated, if that was the case? Or anything that you could seize out that might have contributed to a low level of response in those patients?

William Newell

executive
#53

Thanks, Jim. I'll let Arturo tell you what we know and more likely what we don't know.

Arturo Molina

executive
#54

Yes. Again, it's hard to tell but a couple of those patients were patients who were primarily refractory to a platinum regimen, meaning that they progressed during frontline treatment or -- while in frontline treatment or progressed within 3 months after finishing frontline treatment. And those patients tend to do very poorly. And we certainly had several of those patients who had a very short history of ovarian cancer and never responded to anything.

James Birchenough

analyst
#55

And then maybe for -- go ahead. I was just going to ask for Dr. Naumann, and it's probably been asked in terms of positioning of the drug in this treatment of ovarian cancer. But I guess, prospects to use this earlier in the treatment paradigm and what level of data would be required to support earlier use?

Wendel Naumann

attendee
#56

Yes, I think that's a very interesting question. Any time we see a very active drug, particularly 1 that's well tolerated, we -- that may even combine with our other drugs, we would like to see that moved earlier. And I think we've seen with some of the clinical trials where we've used platinum and platinum-sensitive setting as opposed to nonplatinum combinations that survival is actually better. And so we do want to move these drugs up. So I -- that's going to not be my call. But yes, I would certainly like to see this moved up in terms of response rates because after patients become resistant, I mean, it's really not a good situation and response rates are extremely poor. So you want to use your best drugs and chemotherapy just doesn't work in those patients. I mean we give it, but it -- response rates, any response is exceptional.

William Newell

executive
#57

Jim, I was going to say, we're certainly thinking about combination opportunities and expect to talk more about that next year, probably.

Arturo Molina

executive
#58

That's what I was going to say as well. We are having those conversations now with Dr. Naumann and others, and we will come -- we have some tentative proposals that we can share in the future.

James Birchenough

analyst
#59

Congrats again on the data.

William Newell

executive
#60

Thanks.

Arturo Molina

executive
#61

Thanks, Jim.

Operator

operator
#62

Our next question comes from Reni Benjamin with JMP Securities.

Reni Benjamin

analyst
#63

Let me add my congratulations on the data as well. I guess maybe just starting off, can you talk a little bit about the patient discontinuation rate? And maybe just characterize the dose interruptions. Were patients reduced to the next lower dose? Or were they actually able to just kind of rest and then continue on the same dose going forward?

Arturo Molina

executive
#64

It's -- this is Arturo. It's a combination of both, but for neutropenia, since that resolves on its own, often the patient stays in the same dose. For neuropathy, we have employed a dose reduction, sometimes with a slight delay as well as standard of care therapies for neuropathy. Many of the patients who have entered our study have neuropathy already, as Dr. Naumann noted and are already on medications for treatment of neuropathy. For the dose escalation, we have allowed patients to come in with grade 2 neuropathy. For dose expansion, part of our protocol amendment is to only allow grade 1 or 0 and not grade 2.

Reni Benjamin

analyst
#65

Got it. And when we -- normally, when we think about the dose escalation study, I think about -- by the end of the study, selecting a dose, right, to move forward with. And in this case, we have a range. And I'm wondering, what does it take, I guess, to settle in on 1 dose? Is it going to vary according to indication, ovarian versus endometrial? Or is it going to vary based on how heavily pretreated patients are? And kind of related to that, I know going forward, you want less heavily pretreated patients, but how do you pick that new range, if you will?

Arturo Molina

executive
#66

Well, I -- first of all, it's not uncommon for a sponsor to continue optimizing the dose during an expansion cohort. And Mersana is actually doing that, where they're testing to different doses in their expansion cohort. So I think it's -- this is the best time we have so that we can go to our registration studies with enough data to support the dose that we want. The other is we want to get more experience in the patient population we intend to conduct our registration studies in. And that would be patients who are less heavily pretreated. So if you look at the registration study, the accelerated registration single-arm study that ImmunoGen is conducting, their patients can only have 1 to 3 prior regimens and have platinum-resistant and prior bevacizumab. And similar with what Mersana's agreement with the FDA, it's 1 to 3 prior regimens in platinum-resistant or 4 prior regimens, irrespective of platinum sensitivity. So I think we'll let the data drive our discussions with the FDA in the future when we're ready to talk about a registration-directed strategy. But in the expansion cohort, we're hoping that the patients we enroll there will be more akin to the patients that we plan to treat during our registration. Does that answer your question?

Reni Benjamin

analyst
#67

Got it. And then just one final one for me. Yes, it did. Yes. And just one final one for me. I got all turned around when we were talking about the PRs that confirmed versus unconfirmed. And I thought these are RECIST PRs and assume that all 8 are confirmed, which I think is still the case. But can you just remind us, it's 8 PRs, are they all confirmed or only 6 out of the 8 confirmed? Just remind me what that is. Yes.

Arturo Molina

executive
#68

Yes. And I'll also ask Dr. Naumann to chime in on his assessment. What is striking about our patient population is that some of the -- 2 -- so just to answer your question, 2 of these are confirmed with subsequent scans, but some of these PRs have occurred later and can still go on to confirmation. But some -- for example, a patient who's been on study for 30 weeks and gets the PR at 30 weeks, that PR, even if it's unconfirmed, it's definitely associated with very significant clinical benefit. And I'm going to ask Dr. Naumann to comment on his view on the PR confirmed versus unconfirmed when patients stay on treatment for such a prolonged period of time. So maybe Dr. Naumann, you can comment on that.

Wendel Naumann

attendee
#69

Yes. I think that's exactly right from a clinical standpoint. Ovarian cancer is incredibly difficult to measure using RECIST criteria. It's been a bit of a problem for our clinical trials. I think from our standpoint, the GCIG criteria with CA-125 is a very good criteria. The FDA just doesn't like it because they want to see things on CT scan. But the fact that these PRs, even if they're not confirmed, have been long-lasting. And I think 5 of the 8 patients are still on trial, so they can actually have a confirmation of their PR later with another scan. But to see over 70% of patients with a more than 50% drop in the CA-125 is incredibly encouraging, especially in this type of patient population. And the other thing is when you deal with platinum-resistant ovarian cancer, the number of patients that normally drop off every single cycle is dramatic. And many of these patients, when they are so beat up with chemotherapy, they just sort of don't want to go on. And some people will come off trial, even if they're responding just because they're so beat up and tired and don't want to -- their characteristics, their performance status and so forth. It's difficult to keep these patients on trials. So when you see response rates that exceed 20% in this patient population, that's exceptional especially when you see CA-125 response rates that are in the 70% range.

Operator

operator
#70

There are no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the floor back over to management for any closing remarks you may have.

William Newell

executive
#71

Thank you all for participating in today's call with us. We are, as we've said, excited about the data that we're sharing. And as the trial continues, and we move to the dose expansion phase, we look to update you further on our thinking of the development as a further development of this very promising drug. I wish you all a good day, everybody stay safe and healthy. That's it. Thank you, operator.

Operator

operator
#72

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's web conference. You may now disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation, and have a great day.

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